Im not dogging android im not trying to be a negitive nancy though i know somone will still smack me for it anyway....
(first and for most I DO NOT LIKE APPLE ITS TOO MUCH OF A TRENDY CULT) but they know how to-do some stuff the right way....
why does the android market suck so much I have had the hero now the evo and have LOVED both phones more then you want to know... but i just relized what me and my ipod touch compadrays lack... every week hes like OMG NEW APPZZZ and im like barcode scanner FTW??? or robo defence ftw............
im just estaticly happy we have such a great group of devs*xda-devs* because that makes the whole experience for me at this point because the exciting apps arnt exciting any more.......
if you read nothing else read this(what i want this post to be about) Why arent new apps popping up all the time... it seems like android phone are selling faster then they can keep them on the shelves but we cant seem to get developers to provide me with happs for me to spend my money on?
I am not sure how long you have had your EVO for, but outside of the top Free Apps, there are a few apps of interest, but it really is dependent on you. I will give you a list of what I use and why.
ADB Wireless - Needs no explanation.
Air Control Light - One of the best time wasters and is really addictive.
Album Art Grabber - gets all of your missing album art (Paid for)
Android Mate - a simple way for removal of apps you don't want w/o using ADB
Astro File Manager - have been using this one since G1. Its a good choice between that or ES File manager. (Paid for)
Better Cut - for individual shortcuts and main screen Icons.
Call Block - Needs no explanation.
Carr Matey - Great when your in a huge parking lot to help remember where you left your car.
Chrome to Phone- easy way to send Links/numbers/addresses from your desktop to your phone.
Dialer One- Great dialer replacement. I actually prefer the dialer in CM6 but it is not Sense compatible.
Documents To Go - Great to view Word/Excel and other M$ Docs as well as PDFs (Paid for)
Lets Golf - Great Game (Paid for)
Pandora - A must have. Is more valuable than a FM Radio App.
PhoneMyPC - Great for controlling my PC while I am not home. I can pull up documents on my PC and email them to myself, or turn stuff on, monitor my appt with my web cam and so on.
Solitare - Best game in the world
Robo Defense - Great Time waster
Truphone - VoiP Wifi to Wifi for speaking to my kids in Germany. Free!
Trillian- best IM program ever.
You really have to be in "need" of a program before someone actually designs one to fill that need. So basically your statement is why is there not cool programs. Name some of the programs you want/need, and then someone will tell you what might work for you. Also remember that Apple has 1-2 years on Android, and due to the fact that they only have to program for 1 phone basically, it is a lot simpler not needing to be compatible with 15 different phones.
I have to somewhat agree with you. I came from an iPhone and bought the EVO without even touching an android running phone before. While I do love android - most apps really, really, suck. You just have to find the apps that aren't complete **** - look at it as an adventure.
Thanks for the list above, too.
Oh, and in all my experances of freelance computer work...Overall, Java just sucks.
There's definitely some better apps on iPhone.. I miss my Mafia wars app, haha.. I'd much rather have android though.
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Its what your used to. Everyone talks up the iphone apps and they certainly have the most popular ones (biggest market) but I soo prefer android over apple.
My current phone game is alchemy (not available on iphone)
thanks guys
I dont really have any particual needs my "needs" are PEGGLE and apparently zombies vs plants is also an awesome game.... they need to make an idiot proof music loading platform that will also assist me in finding games..... i just get soo sad when i see apps in the iphone/pad/touch marketplace that kicks ass,
I REALLY apreciate the list of games.... i downloaded some stuff off that list and am about to get my game on when i stop writing it....... ok I thought of my one and only true need::::
Castle Crashers Android
Hrshycro said:
Oh, and in all my experances of freelance computer work...Overall, Java just sucks.
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This statement just pisses me off. Java is a powerful cross platform language. I will take it as "like just your opinion man" and move on.
jkinnison90 said:
There's definitely some better apps on iPhone.. I miss my Mafia wars app, haha.. I'd much rather have android though.
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..but there is a Mafia Wars app in the market.
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I dont really have any particual needs my "needs" are PEGGLE and apparently zombies vs plants is also an awesome game.... they need to make an idiot proof music loading platform that will also assist me in finding games..... i just get soo sad when i see apps in the iphone/pad/touch marketplace that kicks ass,
I REALLY apreciate the list of games.... i downloaded some stuff off that list and am about to get my game on when i stop writing it....... ok I thought of my one and only true need::::
Castle Crashers Android
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Is pay 10 bucks easily for cc on android. I don't think I've ever put as many grind hours into a game like I did cc and never will again. Best beatemup ever
All spelling errors thanks to xt9 on my Evo!
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This statement just pisses me off. Java is a powerful cross platform language. I will take it as "like just your opinion man" and move on.
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Java is a powerful cross platform language, but I have to agree that I haven't seen a lot of really blow your mind apps built with it (in the UI department at least. I've seen some amazing programming feats done with it, but UI usually is lacking in Java and Android apps) I think it has a lot to do with Java not being a very nice language to use. I'm having a horrible time learning it compared to other languages I'm working on. Of course I'm a programming noob, but still, C++ is so much easier to learn than Java.
Anyways, it has a lot to do with experience. I don't think a lot of Android programmers are really experienced Java devs, so that could explain some of the lack of appeal in a lot of normal Android apps.
From my own experience, a lot of the big name devs are making some great apps now with great UI's like Nook, Gameloft Games, Tweetdeck, etc. So I think the platform is beginning to mature, but there will always be crappy apps. Personally, I don't mind UI's as long as they aren't a pain to navigate and perform the functions well. Android apps are by far much more useful than their iPhone counterparts because of all the extra access and interoperability they have. If you haven't noticed, there are a lot of apps that build on other apps to get jobs done. Plus the way Android handles background tasks (unlike the iPhone with only allows about 5 different basic services to run) is amazing. There are so many useful things Android apps can do that the iPhone can't even touch when jailbroken.
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This statement just pisses me off. Java is a powerful cross platform language. I will take it as "like just your opinion man" and move on.
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The platform benefit died long ago. Code for it now hardly more portable than C. It's simply rarely used that way as well as having so many branches for a particular platforms extensions. A language is only cross platform if you can actually run or build programs easilyfor multiple platforms. Dalvik really shoots that one down pretty damn fast.
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Java is a powerful cross platform language, but I have to agree that I haven't seen a lot of really blow your mind apps built with it (in the UI department at least. I've seen some amazing programming feats done with it, but UI usually is lacking in Java and Android apps) I think it has a lot to do with Java not being a very nice language to use. I'm having a horrible time learning it compared to other languages I'm working on. Of course I'm a programming noob, but still, C++ is so much easier to learn than Java.
Anyways, it has a lot to do with experience. I don't think a lot of Android programmers are really experienced Java devs, so that could explain some of the lack of appeal in a lot of normal Android apps.
From my own experience, a lot of the big name devs are making some great apps now with great UI's like Nook, Gameloft Games, Tweetdeck, etc. So I think the platform is beginning to mature, but there will always be crappy apps. Personally, I don't mind UI's as long as they aren't a pain to navigate and perform the functions well. Android apps are by far much more useful than their iPhone counterparts because of all the extra access and interoperability they have. If you haven't noticed, there are a lot of apps that build on other apps to get jobs done. Plus the way Android handles background tasks (unlike the iPhone with only allows about 5 different basic services to run) is amazing. There are so many useful things Android apps can do that the iPhone can't even touch when jailbroken.
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Exactly my point. Thank you for typing it out. Couldn't have typed it better myself. While Java is powerful, it's buggier than all get out. Everybody I know in the info systems world also hates it. I don't care for it it's really buggy and the UI is usually outdated, confusing and doesn't look good at all - usually.
When I've ran into client's problems, it requires a complete uninstall of it or the multiple installed updates, then reinstalling the newest update, or an older update because what they want to use doesn't work with the newest java update. :| It's especially annoying when they are trying to use two different java related programs and one only works with the newest update and the other one only works with an older update - just makes me day.
I'm not programmer, but why are the apps for android programmed with java? Android is based of linux, right? Are there not other prog langs that work with linux?
Come to think of it: There's not very many products that google has made that are very aesthetically pleasing to look at or use, but they work.
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Exactly my point. Thank you for typing it out. Couldn't have typed it better myself. While Java is powerful, it's buggier than all get out. Everybody I know in the info systems world also hates it. I don't care for it it's really buggy and the UI is usually outdated, confusing and doesn't look good at all - usually.
When I've ran into client's problems, it requires a complete uninstall of it or the multiple installed updates, then reinstalling the newest update, or an older update because what they want to use doesn't work with the newest java update. :| It's especially annoying when they are trying to use two different java related programs and one only works with the newest update and the other one only works with an older update - just makes me day.
I'm not programmer, but why are the apps for android programmed with java? Android is based of linux, right? Are there not other prog langs that work with linux?
Come to think of it: There's not very many products that google has made that are very aesthetically pleasing to look at or use, but they work.
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You can code with C or C++ if you use the NDK (Native Dev Kit). Im not sure if you can do the whole app that way or just parts but it just seems more difficult. But I learned java in a highschool class, and despite its failures, its easiest for me to use.
I definitely recommend looking for new apps using App Brain. As long as you're not strictly looking for games, I've found a lot of jewels in there I never would have found in the regular Market app.
The thing that gets me most is not the lack of apps, but the inconsistency among apps.
1. Most apps carry their own theme and UI and does not blend well with the rest of Android.
2. Software updates tend to roll out slower than the iphone counterparts.
3. Resolution of the icons in some apps are blurry looking. Again this is because of differences between the resolution available for Android phones.
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I definitely recommend looking for new apps using App Brain. As long as you're not strictly looking for games, I've found a lot of jewels in there I never would have found in the regular Market app.
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I would agree. There are a lot of bad apps out there but there are some really good ones I found with App Brain.
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I hadn't clicked on this thread yet because I totally expected some rant about something silly but I have to admit I do completely agree with the OP in that the market is not a good way to find apps. It's the place to GET apps but the "top" lists, paid and free, haven't changed much since I got my Hero last December..
I have never had an iProduct of any sort, and likely never will so I don't have any experience for comparison but I think the android apps are alright, no complaints other than FINDING them..
1. Google's Market needs upgrades, nothing major. Just add more and better ways to find applications. Sad a search giant has had difficulty getting this done.
2. Get AppBrain's application.
3. Android uses a Java flavored language, but not Java or even Java ME. This is why Oracle is foolishly suing Google.
RE #3 - I'm beginning to wonder myself whether they should have used Python or Ruby over Java.
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RE #3 - I'm beginning to wonder myself whether they should have used Python or Ruby over Java.
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They aren't using java, thats what he was saying with point 3. Android uses a different language which is similar to java, but not java.
Also java > *. Java is used in phones, cars, sterio systems, tvs, gaming systems, etc..
Try to find a electronic unit where java hasn't been used in
I for one would like to see one of this on the WP7 platform. What are your thoughts?
I hate to say it, but I don't think we will ever see any emulation programs on WP7 until we are allowed to side load data. I doubt Zune would allow loading of roms therefore the program would be useless. This is also assuming Microsoft lets these programs on the market. The emulation/rom market is mostly piracy and Microsoft likely wants no part of that.
I'd love to have a good snes emulator but i just can't see it happening.
if it does itll only be for unlocked devices....
It's definitely possible. Silverlight is powerful enought to emulate code (see here for example). However, the version of silverlight / XNA currently built into WP7 may not be up to the task just yet. But full silverlight support is due to be integrated in upcoming updates.
EDIT: SNES Silverlight Emulator too
Legally speaking though there's little or no chance that an emulator would be allowed on the marketplace. Although MS are open enough with their Marketplace (eg allowing a Kamasutra app and many uTorrent remote clients), emulators need roms and roms are usually copyrighted.
What we will see eventually are emulators that can be sideloaded using Chevron or similar tools, or possibly via a future alternative Marketplace like Cydia. The roms themselves, due to isolated storage in WP7, will need to be loaded from your PC using a Zune Desktop-style tool, or alternatively downloaded from the emulator app itself (eg from a private webserver over Wifi).
It's all definitely possible, there are just a few steps to go first
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I for one would like to see one of this on the WP7 platform. What are your thoughts?
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i would love to have sega alongside my nes on wp7 !!!
Oh MAN I hope so.
Shadowrun on on my phone would be beyond incredible.
not going to happen as long as MS tries to pretend to be "moral" about copyright infringement...
I don't mean to necro this thread, but I figured it'd be better than creating a new one.
I've seen NES and Gameboy emulators around, but I've still got my fingers crossed for Master System, Game Gear and (dare I dream?) Genesis/Mega Drive.
I just hope that someone out there is thinking about making these. I, for one, would be eternally grateful.
What is android compared to google. I heard there was a android phone out that runs off Bing. there is also a android windows phone
now i thought android was supported by Google and only google.
can someone just break this down for me how this all works and how google fits into the whole situation
Thanks and would appreciate everyones input
Well I sure haven't heard of an android windows phone. Google acquired the android company..so yes Android is owned by Google. Now some phones like the HD2 have been ported to run android and windows phone and windows mobile if that's what you mean.
Those phones don't run off Bing, their default search engine (when you press the search button) is Bing and some are Yahoo!, I believe that's because of certain deals and agreements made
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Android is the operating system project that Google is running for the mobile platform. It is to mobile devices what Windows is to PCs, or what OSX is to a Mac. Other options other than Android are Windows Phone, WebOS (Palm), etc.
As Android is defined to be an open source project, it is also open to using other search providers (Bing is a search engine run by Microsoft). Android isn't a search engine - that's Google. It's just that Google is expanding into other areas as well. For example, they're also pushing the Chrome operating system for netbooks, which is like a replacement for Windows as well. It's the same idea as Android, but for more full-use notebooks. Although I do expect Chrome will be absorbed into Android somewhere down the line and they'll merge into a single project as netbooks, tablets, and mobile devices/phones become the same market.
Google owns the android os, as its the the google mobile os. A few windows phones have had the android os ported over to them, and some of them [like the HD2 I believe] can dual boot.
I'm sorry but how can you have 657 posts and not know what Android and Google are, and how they are related.
So.. I've fallen inlove with the WP7 looks, but I cant stand Windows-phones in general due to many reasons, and I also still want Android due to the customizationpossibilites and the market.
Have anyone seen a ROM with the WP7-themes and\or something similar?
I have bought and downloaded the WP7 apps that are in development, but I still feel it needs more since its just apps added to the standard package.
Any hints\tips\links or anything on how I could possibly do this myself if there is nothing out there?
I'm thinking of swapping the standard systemapps ofcourse.
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Dag M.
There's a blog somewhere, think it's the launcher7 one, where they've got Windows apps on android, i.e. look and feel of wm7.
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hi,
Is it possible to make an app which plays cut the rope from the website like a facebook website shortcut with new interface?
sorry for my bad english it is not my favourite language
I'm shocked that this game is not available for wp7 yet..... So they use IE9 but, no WP7 ?
Still a fun game to play in IE9...
Yes, i heard of that game a while ago and since 2 weeks i got to know it better on Windows 8 and now i want to play it on my windows phone without IE
There are some people who take the facebook mobile page an make a new interface for that with other buttons...
So someone could take the cuttherope.ie website and give it an app-like interface so we could "cut" the rope an not click ^^
Yea, I played through the IE 9 version (got to the end, I want more). So even making the IE9 version into a WP7 program does not give you access to the full game.
I suggest that everyone who has WP7 email the dev and ask for them to make the game for WP7, their support email is support @ zeptolab DOT com (I want them to make a game for us, not give them tons of spam) . I emailed them already...
The only way to get this is to get to the dev. Have everyone you know email them requesting it for WP7 and you might be able to buy it....
EMAIL THEM !!!!!
It looks like they have, or are working on, a Windows 8 version. Depending how Windows 8ish Windows Phone 8 is, they might be waiting on that.
would be nice to have as a native app ... 1+ to this thread's questions...
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