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High demand for second hand Rhodiums?

Hello all,
I have my Rhodium(vodaphone TP2, unlocked with stuff) up for sale in the marketplace as I am rocking a HD2 now:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670836
It is waiting for a good offer:
I have had people offering me silly cash for this nearly mint device (£100???)
Now I am thinking, is it really worth so little?
Most of the Rhodiums up 4 sale are in the US and around $300. I guess that we have too many phones in the UK available on a free contract.
I want £150 at least for it and need to get rid of it asap.....
Has anyone bought one recently in UK? What did you pay for it?
Is there any hope I might get some cash back on this now unloved device?
Kind regards all //

The HTC Desire has really killed sales of previous generation phones and the inexperienced/new user is now wowed by Android or Iphones.
Many people are also wary of buying second hand phones as one person's description of 'mint' may not be another person's idea (not saying anything at all about your advert here BTW, this is just a general point).
Many people are also frightened by scare stories of buying second hand phones
Branded phones can be a 'put-off' too even though they are only really cosmetic issues (although some people may worry about unlocking etc. and be concerned that it may not work with their sim when it arrives and then can't return it)
The rhodium is a super device, but there is only a very small market for them as only the smallest percentage of the phone buying public is even aware of the phone and then when added to the points above, I am not surprised that you are getting low offers, but I can also understand how disappointing this would be for a seller.
I went through something similar when selling my touch HD as I wanted it to go to someone who would love it as much as I did!
I think you have 2 options here;
Wait for someone who is looking for a rhodium and you can meet up in person (thus negating all the general points above)
Flog it to somewhere like CEX who might give you a decent (ish) price for it;
http://www.cex.co.uk/products/Phone... Touch Pro2, Vodafone Good Condition&mode=buy
Shame you are in London though, as I would have taken a look at this if you had been nearer to sunny Gloucestershire
Best of luck with your sale
Spud

i haven't looked into the prices for a used touch pro 2 but whenever I try to sell something online, i always get "low-ballers" THey email you some excuse that they're a student, just lost their job, just had a baby, etc and are tight on cash and want to only pay a quarter of the price i'm asking.
Its just the way things are, if you need to sell it asap, maybe lower the price a bit, but if i were you, i'd stay firm on your asking price until someone that has the money and knows the value of the device goes ahead an purchases it.

is this phone worth $200?

i bought one from ebay is it worth it?could i have gotten a better one?
condition is mint no scratches or anything

hey,
i bought the phone a few month ago for about $300...
and of course you could have gooten a better one...
But here's the BIG BUT:
-when you want to have a hardfware keyboard then theres only one other phone...the desire z (about $600)
-if you dont need the keyboard then u could get the HD2 if u want it to hgave windows mobile
-or you could get the desire wich in my eyes is a high end device without any limits for now...
--->but thats all a matter of what you want to spend for a new phone...
but i can only tell you that it is a great phone i use it every day and its just great to have the keyboard...
and for that price $200 you couldnt get a better phone then this one!
just flash a cusom rom and the phone is just awesome!
nick

Not a bad price; was it a 'bid' or 'buy it now' option?
I was lucky to snag one with a bunch of accessories (including 2 batteries, 3 cables, 2 AC chargers, a spare battery cover, extra stylises, & an Otterbox) in mint condition for about $150 shipped. It was a buy-it-now sale, so I assume that I got that deal because the seller really didn't know what it was worth. The seller was changing carriers and just wanted to get rid of the phone.
Since the phone has been discontinued and the new Windows 7 phones are out, the prices are coming down quickly. I'm not ready to jump into a W7 device, so I'm happy with my purchase.
Keep reading the forums and, if you're brave about customizing it, I'm sure you'll be happy with this device, too. Enjoy!
Debbie

the-nj said:
hey,
i bought the phone a few month ago for about $300...
and of course you could have gooten a better one...
But here's the BIG BUT:
-when you want to have a hardfware keyboard then theres only one other phone...the desire z (about $600)
-if you dont need the keyboard then u could get the HD2 if u want it to hgave windows mobile
-or you could get the desire wich in my eyes is a high end device without any limits for now...
--->but thats all a matter of what you want to spend for a new phone...
but i can only tell you that it is a great phone i use it every day and its just great to have the keyboard...
and for that price $200 you couldnt get a better phone then this one!
just flash a cusom rom and the phone is just awesome!
nick
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what phone could i have gotten for $200 better than this?i thought this was the max
DebbieNY13 said:
Not a bad price; was it a 'bid' or 'buy it now' option?
I was lucky to snag one with a bunch of accessories (including 2 batteries, 3 cables, 2 AC chargers, a spare battery cover, extra stylises, & an Otterbox) in mint condition for about $150 shipped. It was a buy-it-now sale, so I assume that I got that deal because the seller really didn't know what it was worth. The seller was changing carriers and just wanted to get rid of the phone.
Since the phone has been discontinued and the new Windows 7 phones are out, the prices are coming down quickly. I'm not ready to jump into a W7 device, so I'm happy with my purchase.
Keep reading the forums and, if you're brave about customizing it, I'm sure you'll be happy with this device, too. Enjoy!
Debbie
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it was at buy it now price
And thank you for replying

Well, after reading this thread, I decided to buy one off ebay too. Then to see how the xdandroid stuff is working...

bought my tp2 before they hit the U.S for $600,been pleased ever since.You got one for $200,you got lucky,great buy

Was it an unlocked device? It wasn't a BAD price, really but I don't know if I would consider it a great one either. The phone is a bit on the slow side these days, but not excessively so. They are still selling new Android phones with even slower CPUs. But it's no Snapdragon either. The hardware keyboard is nice. I thought about moving to a Focus with WP7 but I really don't like the soft keyboards and I am not impressed with the Quantum.
So, yeah, not a real helpful post, but the TP2 remains one of if not the overall best WM 6 device out there. AT&T is still selling it for $199 and you would be locked into a 2 year contract for it so if you got it for $199 I suppose you did okay. Especially if, as previously mentioned, you aren't adverse to a bit of out of warranty modding and custom ROMs.

Avatar28 said:
Was it an unlocked device? It wasn't a BAD price, really but I don't know if I would consider it a great one either. The phone is a bit on the slow side these days, but not excessively so. They are still selling new Android phones with even slower CPUs. But it's no Snapdragon either. The hardware keyboard is nice. I thought about moving to a Focus with WP7 but I really don't like the soft keyboards and I am not impressed with the Quantum.
So, yeah, not a real helpful post, but the TP2 remains one of if not the overall best WM 6 device out there. AT&T is still selling it for $199 and you would be locked into a 2 year contract for it so if you got it for $199 I suppose you did okay. Especially if, as previously mentioned, you aren't adverse to a bit of out of warranty modding and custom ROMs.
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it was unlocked

[Q] Do you think there will be a 3rd party laptop dock?

Do you think within a month or two, 3rd party laptop docks are going to start showing up at a much cheaper price?

neer2005 said:
Do you think within a month or two, 3rd party laptop docks are going to start showing up at a much cheaper price?
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Dang it, I hope so. Or I'll be buying a Motorola one used eventually.

I hope so too. but really don't think so....hope I can buy a used one cheap on ebay or something

Same I would really enjoy the dock when I'm on the go but 300 bucks for it is a lot.

I hope so too. Either that or they need to lower the price on the official dock. Motorola needs to understand that they shouldn't be able to charge as much (or more than) a netbook price for what realistically is nothing more than a shell of a laptop. It just doesn't justify the $500 dollar price if you don't purchase the bundle.

Hopefully they will understand that once they see no one buying the laptop dock.

True. Yeah, there's no way I'll be buying one at $500. Maybe at $199 I'll consider picking one up new.

If Atrxi can sell like iphone, then the 3rd party laptop dock is possible. Otherwise, I don't think any company will take the risk to sell such a thing.

There is no way it is going to sell very well if the 4g speed problem isn't dealt with quickly.

gsmith53 said:
There is no way it is going to sell very well if the 4g speed problem isn't dealt with quickly.
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That's on XDA. I doubt the public will know of that issue, they see 4G they are like oh fancy just like Apple's retina display marketing gimmick.

neer2005 said:
That's on XDA. I doubt the public will know of that issue, they see 4G they are like oh fancy just like Apple's retina display marketing gimmick.
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This is true; hell my friend that drove me to the store to get the phone the other day has an Epic 4G; I was messing with the phone to get Market enabled and she had 4G off; didn't even know what it did.
The main market of people picking this phone up are the people who need their phone to do practically everything.
If I worked at a desk in an office, at home, and other places, buying the phone, the laptock dock, and 2 regular dock bundles would make sense.
Rooted/ROM Captivate
Rooted Atrix

Amazon GSM version avail. - And a favor plz?

Hey Guys,
Amazon has them from sellers ranging from $735-750, may be worth checking out.
Here's my favor request, for those of you that HAVE the GSM version, could you please leave a review there?
There are some idiots reviewing this beautiful desired phone, that don't even have it! They are leaving 1-star ratings, because of the price - give me a break!
This phone may have it's flaws (name one that doesn't), but it deserves far more respect than it's getting.
So it would be cool if some of you that actually have the Galaxy Nexus, could please leave a "real" review about the phone itself - for future buyers.
Note: No I don't work for Amazon, Google or Samsung. I am just someone who is tired of idiot trolls leaving bad reviews on a product that they don't even own!
If I had this phone, I'd leave my review - but I don't as of yet. Thx!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...I2KXA7RD5ZD44S&me=&seller=&colid=2OWLN2UGLZZV

(to the reviewers on amazon, and most people in the world):
why is the cellphone subsidy so hard to understand?

Let me just tell you this, forget about Amazon ratings. Read reviews from Tech sites, watch videos, and (if worst comes) buy the phone. I can personally tell you that this phone is a significant upgrade to any device that came out this year, bar the iPhone 4S (they are not in the same category) and that this is definitely the best Android phone out at the moment. Any dual core android phone with a resolution of 960*540 or less will be a significant upgrade (I came from a Sensation). Only the Rezound is similar in specs, so that is probably on par with hardware. I would not buy it as an upgrade for the Rezound, unless I could get my money back for it.

Just ordered mine today from gsm imports will def leave a review once i get it.. currently on the galaxy s 2 tmobile version
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Americans have no idea how cell phone pricing works.
Unlocked iPhone 4S's sell for $1000.

i'd complain about the price also(especially considering this GSM one is only a mere 16GB) but then again, considering i used to buy Neo Geo games for $400 & even then, arcade game PCB's as high as $2,500... i shouldn't give the price crap.
of course i'd be getting the LTE 32GB model for the contract price so at least this time i won't be dumping a ton of money on something.

dnlsmy said:
Let me just tell you this, forget about Amazon ratings. Read reviews from Tech sites, watch videos, and (if worst comes) buy the phone. I can personally tell you that this phone is a significant upgrade to any device that came out this year, bar the iPhone 4S (they are not in the same category) and that this is definitely the best Android phone out at the moment. Any dual core android phone with a resolution of 960*540 or less will be a significant upgrade (I came from a Sensation). Only the Rezound is similar in specs, so that is probably on par with hardware. I would not buy it as an upgrade for the Rezound, unless I could get my money back for it.
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You know that, and I know this - but the average Joe maybe doesn't. I always when it comes to tech purchases, check the tech blogs - and when it comes to phones, I check here even from you guys. And for other products, I do use Amazon for reviews (but not solely).
Just bothered me that people are reviewing this phone based on price alone. If you don't want to pay $700-800 for a phone, then don't! But to leave a poor rating because of it's price, is just lame (imo). It tells me nothing about the phone and it's functions etc., only that it's not cheap - well DUH! I can see that for myself! lol
At any rate, no one has to leave a review on Amazon, I just thought some if some of you have the phone already, that maybe some could balance out the reviews a little bit, with some "real" insight to this beauty of a phone. Especially since millions rely on Amazon for reviews.

If it bugs you that much, why not flag up the rubbish silly reviews with Amazon mods to remove them?
It's stupid though that people have nothing better to do than rate on price alone.
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matt2053 said:
Americans have no idea how cell phone pricing works.
Unlocked iPhone 4S's sell for $1000.
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$649 unlocked 16gb
$749 32gb
$849 64gb
Direct from Apple.com
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone/iphone4s
$1,000?

ericshmerick said:
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$649 unlocked 16gb
$749 32gb
$849 64gb
Direct from Apple.com
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone/iphone4s
$1,000?
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He means in country's apple doesn't sell its products..

8steve8 said:
(to the reviewers on amazon, and most people in the world):
why is the cellphone subsidy so hard to understand?
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Because some people are just stupid I guess. Makes you wonder how they can manage anything in life if they can't even manage simple math.
In the case of the Nexus they should also consider that it's the price after importing them from a country where most devices are more expensive than in the US. I guess the same people can't use such basic logic either though.
Btw: It's number one in the phone category on Prisjakt (similar to Pricerunner) in Sweden, and it's not even officially available here yet because of all the delays.

xSunny said:
He means in country's apple doesn't sell its products..
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No, I mean go to Ebay, search for "unlocked iphone 4s" and look at the prices.

[Q] $349 Galaxy Nexus or wait for new Nexus Phone?

Let's start with what would be my dream phone:
- minimum 4.65 inch screen, preferably not Pentile display, but not a dealbreaker
- 64 GB internal memory (iphone does it, why not android phones?)
- Micro SD slot capable of additional 64 GB (or 128! even better!)
- Tegra 3+ or Exynos 5450 (no, NOT the dual-core 5250, i want the beast quad-core 5450 on the new ARMv15 architecture)
OK story time:
My AT&T upgrade's coming up next month, which means I can FINALLY get rid of the iPhone 4 32GB. Say what you will, but it was a good upgrade coming from a very old Blackberry Curve, and she served me well these past two years, but I've outgrown Apple and its walled garden a year ago.
Here's the thing, I've been disappointed with the recent releases on AT&T, here's why:
1) Samsung Galaxy SIII - no 32 GB version, Touchwiz, snapdragon processor, slow to update
2) HTC One X - no Micro SD card, Sense (although I hear it's great), Beats overrated, same snapdragon processor
3) Samsung Galaxy Note - Y U NO HAVE ICS YET?!... also, i don't need a phablet since i have a Tab 10.1 and the upcoming Nexus 7, so a smaller display would be ideal.
*-- Yes, I'm aware I can root/flash custom ROMS which would deal with the update & custom skin issue, and I do have CM9 on my 10.1, but I'm looking to move to a phone similar to a Nexus, that offers the pure Google experience. --*
On that note, yes, I just sprung for the Nexus 7, and that's made me seriously consider the Galaxy Nexus with its reduced price, pure Google experience, and it updates software way faster than carriers do. The thing is, I'm not a huge fan of some things about the GNex:
Galaxy Nexus Unlocked Negatives (in my opinion):
1) The dated hardware (Texas OMAP processor, which disappointed me even at the press release),
2) smaller HDD (only 16 gb, not fun to downgrade, even if I am coming from Apple),
3) lack of Micro SD (I use Google Music and have about 30 GB of music on it, but I like using the offline feature so I don't constantly have to stream and abuse my data plan, and that requires more space than the GNex is offering).
That $349 price point is just SO intriguing though, and I am an avid user of Google content and purchase regularly through the play store, so I will absolutely be getting an android phone, the question is when.
So thoughts? If you were in a similar situation, would you just spring for the GNex now with that $349 unlocked goodness, or wait for a potential new Nexus phone to be introduced around the holidays? Something's gotta compete with the iPhone 5, right?

Here's my plan. I already use a GNex as a daily driver and I plan on picking up another to do modding/hacking on. Then, when the new Nexus device(s) arrives I am going to sell my daily driver GNex and buy a new one to use. I will keep my "testing" GNex as it will be more than capable a year from now.
But to put it into perspective to your situation, I would just wait if you don't have the luxury of having two phones. Technically, I really can't afford two phones but I have given up drinking, smoking, and sugary drinks to compensate for my "Tech" addiction. Or you could just spring for the GNex now for the lower price point and wait until the new Nexus has a price reduction before moving on. I guess it's all about patience and prioritizing your wants/needs.

I have a GNEX a very early adapter and I paid almost $700.00 so at $349.00 it's a steal. With that said you can always get an International version of the SG SIII and if you don't like touchwiz just root it and install a custom rom. It's very easy to do.

See, there's so many variables.
I love the idea of the GNex, and 4.1 will probably be amazing on it, but if a newer, better phone is expected to come out for the holidays and I can use my upgrade subsidy to get it for about $299, then that would be perfect (no plans on leaving AT&T at the moment, I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan, and I'll be damned if they take that away from me).
Sure, I could buy it, then sell it later, but do I essentially want to rent the phone for a few months and lose at least $100 in the process?
I could always keep it as a backup phone, perhaps as a testing phone as you mentioned. But is the GNex worth it? If you have a large amount of media as I do, won't your data plan suffer because you'll always have to stream it?
I can see how the GNex would be useful if I ever decided to buy a Nexus Q (God knows why I'd do that now, needs GTV baked into it). Have it as a backup remote perhaps. Hmmm.....

joe767 said:
I have a GNEX a very early adapter and I paid almost $700.00 so at $349.00 it's a steal. With that said you can always get an International version of the SG SIII and if you don't like touchwiz just root it and install a custom rom. It's very easy to do.
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SGSIII International I don't believe works well with AT&T, right? Even if it does, it's extremely expensive ($500 range last I checked). I'm trying to stick to about $350 tops (aka GNex is the most I'd pay for a phone).
Already spoke about rooting & custom ROMs. I'm really feeling the idea of the pure google experience right now, so it's Nexus or bust, I think (pending better arguments from more experienced board members)

Just ordered one for my buddy since the price is awesome.

Here's a Pro/Con list I'm coming up with. Remember, this is me coming off an Apple phone, so a lot of stuff y'all are used to, I'm not.
Pros:
- Would get cheap, using eBay Instant Sale promotion, I'd get $300 for the iPhone (it's pristine, been in an otterbox since unboxing. Even the otterbox is in good condition!)
- Access to all Google content I've purchased, and continue to purchase
- Jelly Bean
- Pure Google Experience I'm currently looking for (a la Nexus 7, which I purchased)
- Much faster updates than if I bought through a carrier
- Turn-by-Turn Nav
- Price for no-contract phone would be roughly the same if I was upgrading to a new phone with AT&T (If I recall correctly, I got my 32 GB iPhone for $299)
- Buying the phone means I still keep my upgrade eligibility for AT&T
- Can always have as a back-up phone, or as a back-up remote for Nexus Q if I ever purchase something like that
- Much larger display than what I'm used to, and the display is still one of the top 3 in the market currently, hands down.
- I can live without a new phone for a while, which means I can wait for some crazy beast phone.
Cons:
- Need to buy a new FM Radio adapter (2005 accord = no aux port)
- Smaller Storage (32GB iphone vs 16GB GNex)
- No Micro SD slot
- Not quad-core (yes, I'm aware of the "dual-core just as good" argument, and I don't care. Blame it on my testicular insecurity, whatever you want lol)
- Could become outdated soon by potentially newer Nexus model or new Samsung/HTC/ASUS phones coming out in the holidays (just 6 months away)
- The no-contract thing doesn't give me any benefit, as I have a grandfathered AT&T unlimited data plan with no desire to lose it
I'll add more stuff as I think of it, or as people mention in subsequent posts.

Dolfan058 said:
See, there's so many variables.
I love the idea of the GNex, and 4.1 will probably be amazing on it, but if a newer, better phone is expected to come out for the holidays and I can use my upgrade subsidy to get it for about $299, then that would be perfect (no plans on leaving AT&T at the moment, I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan, and I'll be damned if they take that away from me).
Sure, I could buy it, then sell it later, but do I essentially want to rent the phone for a few months and lose at least $100 in the process?
I could always keep it as a backup phone, perhaps as a testing phone as you mentioned. But is the GNex worth it? If you have a large amount of media as I do, won't your data plan suffer because you'll always have to stream it?
I can see how the GNex would be useful if I ever decided to buy a Nexus Q (God knows why I'd do that now, needs GTV baked into it). Have it as a backup remote perhaps. Hmmm.....
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Variables, exactly. I don't even buy phones on contract anymore so I don't even think about that aspect.
As for media content, using a phone without expandable storage just takes extra preparation, which I don't mind. I switch out playlists and things like that weekly when I'm around WiFi.

live4nyy said:
Variables, exactly. I don't even buy phones on contract anymore so I don't even think about that aspect.
As for media content, using a phone without expandable storage just takes extra preparation, which I don't mind. I switch out playlists and things like that weekly when I'm around WiFi.
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I'm about 90% set on getting the GNex, just want to do some last minute fact checking and really make sure I'm ready to do this.
What changed my mind??
I recently found out about Ebay's Instant Sell promotion. To celebrate the GS3 release, Ebay's buying the iPhone 4 32GB for $300. Mine's in pristine condition due to being in an otterbox for the entirety of its life, I even have the original iPhone 4 box it came in.
I'd still have the upgrade feature for phones that come out next year, and it holds me over till my true superphone comes out. I'm so close to buying it lol, just want to make sure I'm making the right decision haha

Dolfan058 said:
I'm about 90% set on getting the GNex, just want to do some last minute fact checking and really make sure I'm ready to do this.
What changed my mind??
I recently found out about Ebay's Instant Sell promotion. To celebrate the GS3 release, Ebay's buying the iPhone 4 32GB for $300. Mine's in pristine condition due to being in an otterbox for the entirety of its life, I even have the original iPhone 4 box it came in.
I'd still have the upgrade feature for phones that come out next year, and it holds me over till my true superphone comes out. I'm so close to buying it lol, just want to make sure I'm making the right decision haha
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Well, I'm not going to tell you what to do, that's a decision you'll have to make. But I will say this, I was using the HTC One X before the GNex and I'm getting ready to sell the One X so I can have the second GNex, if that tells you anything. Of course, that's me and everyone is different. Good luck in making your decision.

At $399 when I bought it last month, it was a screaming deal. I have absolutely no regrets, I was originally waiting for the GS3 and considered the One S.

Won't I need a SIM card adapter?
Optional questions that don't belong here:
1) any ideas on FM Radio transmitters? (I have an 05 Accord, no AUX input unfortunately).
2) Should I get a case? Dropping phones freaks me out, especially since I have tile in the house
3) Any other accessory recommendations? Micro-USB preferred, as they will then work with the Nexus 7

yup, just get a microsim to sim adapter. i have one for my ATT iPad sim i now use in my thinkpad tablet and my ps vita (sold all of my ipads). here's a link:
http://microsim-shop.com/

Don't mean to hijack the thread, but I'm also looking into getting a Nexus, and I have a few questions:
How common is the banding/burn-in problem? (I don't leave static images on the screen for long, but I'm worried about this because a lot of people seem to be complaining about it and saying it happens in only 3 days)
How is the multitouch , as in, does it track your fingers well, and how many fingers max? (I'm asking cause the android phone I'm on now has major issues with multitouch)
Do most 3D games run smooth? (max payne, gta, nova, spiderman, etc...)
What are your personal gripes with the phone?
I really appreciate you answers, sorry if I'm asking too much, I just want to be sure about buying, $350 seems "too good to be true" for a phone this good lol.

I think these questions can best be answered in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1642801
Thanks
FNM