Hi all, my refurbished tab suddenly decided to stop charging, so I'm looking to see where I can get spare parts for it? Either the battery, the charger, and/or the AC-in port are bad. I already contacted the vendor, and it's still in the 90 day period... but I wanted to have a back up plan.
For argument's sake, The original charger seems dead, I connect it and nothing. I have a car charger, plugged into a DC-AC adapter that starts to charge it briefly, but then it starts acting crazy (it rapidly changes from charging to not charging). I think the AC port might be messed up since there's a faint smell of burned circuits when I sniff the little "port" (was going to use hole )
The tab does turn on, and if I leave it connected to the DC charger it should eventually charge (it charged about 3% with the tab off in about 4 hours).
Ideally I will get a positive response from the vendor (only reason I haven't opened the tab up), but as I said, I rather have a backup plan.
I'm sorry but did you say you kept charging it even after sniffing its (I'll do it) hole and smelling burning? I hope I Mis understood that part. However to offer some kind of help, do you smell anything using the stock charger, and have you wiggled it at all to see if it picks up? Also I would check that other adapter output, 12v and 1.5a iirc. Lower may account for the switching of charging and not, also slow charging. To high may be the smell and you toasting your tablet.
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Yes I did try to charge it after I smelled the burning. I only noticed that the tab wasn't charging when I heard it whine about low battery even though it was still connected. I then tried plugging it in, and out multiple times and wiggling the connector about to see if it would make proper contact. By the time I got around to sniffing stuff, if something were going to happen I'm sure it would have happened, but just in case I haven't pushed the issue with the stock charger, though it's pretty clear it's as dead as a sexually active teenager in a Friday the 13th movie.
I'm actually tempted to buy a replacement charger if I find one around locally; I'm not going to order it online and wait for "X" amount of days.
In any case, I got enough of a charge to restore it to stock ICS, no unlocked bootloader, no root.... *SIGH* these things are really NOT fun in their stock state.
OK...one last thing to check....the charger has 2 parts on the wall plug side. There's a tab you push down and the blades slide off, under that on the plug side will be 2 metal tabs, check those. I don't know if you had to put that on when you got it, but its something worth checking out. Maybe lightly pull the tabs up, don't get crazy just a little, slide the blades back on and give it a shot.
I would suggest checking the middle pin, however it takes a charge from the other charger you tried, so I doubt that's it, but maybe something worth checking anyways.
I know this isn't the point of the thread, but why replace if its a simple fix?
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Hi all, my refurbished tab suddenly decided to stop charging, so I'm looking to see where I can get spare parts for it? Either the battery, the charger, and/or the AC-in port are bad. I already contacted the vendor, and it's still in the 90 day period... but I wanted to have a back up plan.
For argument's sake, The original charger seems dead, I connect it and nothing. I have a car charger, plugged into a DC-AC adapter that starts to charge it briefly, but then it starts acting crazy (it rapidly changes from charging to not charging). I think the AC port might be messed up since there's a faint smell of burned circuits when I sniff the little "port" (was going to use hole )
The tab does turn on, and if I leave it connected to the DC charger it should eventually charge (it charged about 3% with the tab off in about 4 hours).
Ideally I will get a positive response from the vendor (only reason I haven't opened the tab up), but as I said, I rather have a backup plan.
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If you smelt a burnt smell coming from the tablet power port i would not recommend using it and replace it. The charger port is available on ebay as i was searching for other things for this tablet.
Well tried to inspect the charger... the thing looks brand new (well it is only a month old) pins are fine, and the contacts look fine as well. Believe me whenever possible I try to fix things more because I just like tinkering with stuff than anything else, but what I was thinking is that while I'm messing around with that I won't be able to use the tab. I will admit that messing around with power sources/adapters/etc isn't my strong suit... but that makes it even more exciting LOL!
dslayer83, I guess my searching skills have been found wanting. Before posting anything I did some searches but could not find anything through google, or ebay. Just about the only thing I found was the vache's thread where he uploaded the service manual, which has a slew of part #s, but sadly google searches for the parts that interest me don't turn up much.
In any case, I was contacted by the seller today asking if I wanted a refund or a replacement, so maybe I won't have to resort to plan"B". Still curious as to what the hell happened that made the tab go crazy, this is the first time I've had what appear to be hardware related issues with any of my electronics (coming from somebody who owned and abused a 3rd revision PS2, that's quite the statement), so it's all so new. Oh well, guess I'll ignore my curiosity this one time.
Thanks guys.
I would exchange it for sure. Or return, up to you. Aside from battery life and learning to use the screen around that 1 horrid angle, this tab has been amazing, coming.from a nook color to nook tab to kindle fire to a100. For 7" I'm not sure anything comes close for the money.
As for what happened, its hard to say. Could be something stuck in the port burned off, the charger wasn't regulating properly before it died, any number of things. The tab seems alright aside from hole sniffing and charging...anyways if you plan to exchange, make sure you get a new charger too.
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I would exchange it for sure. Or return, up to you. Aside from battery life and learning to use the screen around that 1 horrid angle, this tab has been amazing, coming.from a nook color to nook tab to kindle fire to a100. For 7" I'm not sure anything comes close for the money.
As for what happened, its hard to say. Could be something stuck in the port burned off, the charger wasn't regulating properly before it died, any number of things. The tab seems alright aside from hole sniffing and charging...anyways if you plan to exchange, make sure you get a new charger too.
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Ditto on the return or exchange. Why tempt to repair something that can be replaced. I love my a100 and its the first tablet ive owned and only paid $80 for it. I know i got my money worth out of it already.
pio_masaki, you like this tab more than the Nook Tablet? I don't particularly like the design, but I thought the NT would be the better tablet... then again that just might be because I'm not a die hard Nvidia fan. I know I definitely like it better than the Kindle Fire since I've dealt with those (no SDCARD?... who came up with that?) I do agree though, that for what I paid nothing comes remotely close... though I paid $100 more than dslayer83 (lucky bastard).
Anyways, yeah I'm going for the exchange. If the seller was going to start giving me too much grief I was ready to repair it myself, but they seem to be complying so maybe there will be no need.
It doesn't really have anything to do with me liking nvidia, actually I don't care for nvidia for a few reasons, however the performance and price can't be beat. The nook tablet is just a bootloader locked color with dual core, imo not worth its price. The a100 is a true tablet, cameras, GPS, etc for the same price new.vs new last I looked. Plus now that ics dropped the sources will propel the a100 way beyond the others for performance and rom/kernel deving.
When I had the NT they could only root the stock, no cwm or custom roms available, it may be different now,but for me and what I want from my devices the a100 couldn't be beat. The fire would be second for me, my mom uses it now and it runs fine on ics for the most part.
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Sorry didn't mean to imply you where an nvidia fan, just that I don't really like them and usually go out of my way to evade them, whenever possible. That said, I just think the Ti chips on the NT and the Fire is better than the Tegra2, plus I hear wonders about the NT screen which I will say is the one area that the A100 didn't really feel great (despite me saying that the Ti chips are better I'm in no way complaining about this tabs power, not by a long shot). It looks super indoors but outdoors it's closed to impossible to read; still that's not a biggie.
Tomorrow I'm sending it back to get replaced, so fingers crossed I get a replacement by the end of next week, or sooner
On a side note, last I checked the NT had CWM, CM9 and the whole thing, though CM9 didn't seem like it wasn't at the daily driver level. I think devs were concentrating on porting the 3.0 kernel to it. I was really interested in getting one, but due to it's shape it wasn't a good fit with what I needed.
I completely agree on the nvidia thing, I have quite a beef about their drivers, also a laptop that has burned out 3 $600 replacement video cards, the last took the motherboard with it. That aside, for my money the t2 offered the performance I wanted vs price and.development at the time. I'm glad they cracked.open the NT, its going to be a very tough unit to beat once 3.0 gets going on it.
Im pro TI by far, and my next phone will likely be one sporting their hardware, or rather anything not tegra like my g2x. The a100 certainly fails screen wise, and if I decide to move from my Acer the NT is definitely on the list again.
Back on topic I'm glad to hear the seller is stepping up and handling business in a professional manner, so many stories about sellers flaking on their products makes hearing of a good one kind of rare. If you don't mind, who did you go through? It may help others looking for a good deal and a seller they can trust will do the right thing.
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though I paid $100 more than dslayer83 (lucky bastard).
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Heh, well i work in a cellphone repair shop and we buy and sell as well. I see plenty of knock offs come through the door but this puppy was well worth the buy. Im enjoying exploring what all i can do with it. Already using my Infuse wireless hotspot for its internet when im not around wifi. Might just get a car mount and use it for long trips for gps instead of tying up my phone.
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...Back on topic I'm glad to hear the seller is stepping up and handling business in a professional manner, so many stories about sellers flaking on their products makes hearing of a good one kind of rare. If you don't mind, who did you go through? It may help others looking for a good deal and a seller they can trust will do the right thing.
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I'm also hoping to get a phone using TI hardware in the future, but since I'll probably be going to republic wireless in a few months my options will be limited... *SIGH* In the mean time I'm probably buying a pandaboard at some point, though I'm not even sure for exactly what yet. I'd use it for an htpc, but I'm going to use a Raspberry Pi I'm supposed to be getting in June to run XBMC, maybe I'll just shove the pandaboard, instead of the a100, in the car, so many plans, so little money to do them all LOL!
Anyways, the seller is 1saleaday down side it's not a constant stock thing, they'll have deals for well... 1 day. A lot of the times their electronics are refurbished, but despite that everything that I've ordered has come to me looking not "like" new, but brand spanking new. This tablet in particular was refurbished by Acer themselves according to a little label... and while it did crap out, I'm perfectly aware that "sh*t happens". On the topic of shiesty sellers, my attitude until I heard from them should indicate what I think about most stores and their services, but glad to be pleasantly surprised this time.
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Heh, well i work in a cellphone repair shop and we buy and sell as well. I see plenty of knock offs come through the door but this puppy was well worth the buy. Im enjoying exploring what all i can do with it. Already using my Infuse wireless hotspot for its internet when im not around wifi. Might just get a car mount and use it for long trips for gps instead of tying up my phone.
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Well I'm not hating dude more power to you if you can get cheap toys... still that only further reiterates my previous statement... lucky bastard (LOL)
I'm considering a rpi for the bedroom, but the living room has an atv1 with Ubuntu and a crystal decoder for HD playback and the other bedroom an atv2 both running xbmc, been running since my dash on my Xbox lol. Glad to meet another user. Now if only I could get xbmc for my tablets....
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I'm considering a rpi for the bedroom, but the living room has an atv1 with Ubuntu and a crystal decoder for HD playback and the other bedroom an atv2 both running xbmc, been running since my dash on my Xbox lol. Glad to meet another user. Now if only I could get xbmc for my tablets....
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That would be epic... but in the mean time it's cool using the tab as a control
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That would be epic... but in the mean time it's cool using the tab as a control
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Yeah the tab does make a very nice remote lol
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I plugged my S III on the charger last night before I had gone to bed. This morning the phone wasn't on and so I thought maybe the charger had gone bad. So I put in my spare Samsung battery. The phone still didn't boot. So I took the battery out and plugged the phone into the computer to see if it would come on. Nothing. I've been running a rooted stock ROM, specifically the one that didn't trip the flash counter. Any ideas?
Was there a storm the night you left it plugged in?
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It could be a short circuit.
What is why I do not plug in all my chargers directly to the wall...
Use a UPS with builtin circuit protector and ground before plugging in your expensive GS3 or iPad 3 or whatever other gadgets you might have.
No, there was no storm. Clear skies all around. The phone gets warm at the bottom like it is charging, but nothing comes on.
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No, there was no storm. Clear skies all around. The phone gets warm at the bottom like it is charging, but nothing comes on.
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If you are under 30 days, then I would say get it excganged.
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Nope. Got it June 25th.
Return to Samsung, the warranty period is one year. You can read more on Warranty Guide (that come with the phone) what is covered and what's not.
Good luck :good:
I knew there was a one year warranty. Was hoping a ota update broke it and I could fix it. Not been my day. Blown suspension on my car this morning.
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I knew there was a one year warranty. Was hoping a ota update broke it and I could fix it. Not been my day. Blown suspension on my car this morning.
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Damn! Sounds like a ****ty day! Hope things get better for you. Samsung should replace it one would think. But would rooting it void it?
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Well the phone isn't turning on at all so I'm not terribly sure how they'd figure out it was rooted. Also, where is the model code? Not the model name, SGH I747. Samsung's site was asking for it and the choices were something like SGHI747MBAATT.
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Well the phone isn't turning on at all so I'm not terribly sure how they'd figure out it was rooted. Also, where is the model code? Not the model name, SGH I747. Samsung's site was asking for it and the choices were something like SGHI747MBAATT.
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It's either on the box or behind your battery on your phone.
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Same exact thing happened to my phone, I took it to the store and luckily they exchanged it for me (even though it was well past 30 days). Good luck.
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I think you just got a lemon from day one Samsung phones are cheap to begin with. Mine has been fine so far but I do baby it.
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I babied mine too. Has screen protectors in before I got the phone.
Thanks guys. Gonna go by AT&T today after work on the off chance Rey replace it out of the 30 day period. Then I'll call Sammy if they don't.
I think there was some sort of power outage over night in your area and it came back before you woke up.. happened to me once
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What is why I do not plug in all my chargers directly to the wall...
Use a UPS with builtin circuit protector and ground before plugging in your expensive GS3 or iPad 3 or whatever other gadgets you might have.
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This is exactly why I installed a whole house surge protector, as well as each outlet in my house are individually surge protected. They cost more when I was building the house, but worth the additional $1K I spent upgrading all my outlets.
http://www.amazon.com/Leviton-5280-W-Suppressor-Receptacle-Industrial/dp/B0006I33Y6
Those are what each outlet has. My home theater has a seperate monster 7 outlet protector.
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This is exactly why I installed a whole house surge protector, as well as each outlet in my house are individually surge protected. They cost more when I was building the house, but worth the additional $1K I spent upgrading all my outlets.
http://www.amazon.com/Leviton-5280-W-Suppressor-Receptacle-Industrial/dp/B0006I33Y6
Those are what each outlet has. My home theater has a seperate monster 7 outlet protector.
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Sounds like a good idea when I decide to have my house built!
Oh that's just neat. And AT&T would not outright exchange it, but I talked to their warranty dept. and they are sending me a new one and I'll out the old one in the box to send back to them. Guy I spoke to said he waived the few for the two day shipping. While I was glad, I couldn't help but feel like not giving warranty issues two day shipping for free to begin with is a bit of a ripoff. My device broke and I may have to wait more than a week to get a new one? Wth?
ive been having a problem with this phone for a while. it has a problem with turning on and statying on. i will set it on charge while its powered off for atleast two hours, but as soon as i turn it on it will last for about 5 mins and turn off.
i first replaced the battery and it has the same problem. so i replaced the charging port and it was working fine for a few weeks and now its back to the same issue. i cant even get it to charge now
so just trying to figure out what kind of other components it could be
Disclaimer: You're at a more advanced level than I am. I've never done phone repair, and I don't know enough about phone hardware to say if there are other components that could be responsible. I'm a software guy.
That being said, I'll chime in with what I do know, on the off chance that it's actually helpful.
When computers get too hot, they do an automatic thermal shutdown to try to prevent permanent damage. I assume smartphones do this as well. You're on XDA, so there's a good chance you like to tinker. Did you overclock the phone? Overclocking generates more heat, which could potentially lead to a thermal shutdown or permanent damage. Or you might be using or storing the phone in a hot environment.
Have you tried using a different charging cable? Maybe the cable or its connector went bad. You could also test the cable with a different device. Maybe the wall outlet, etc went bad. Did you check the connectors that the battery attaches to, to make sure they're clean?
When you opened the phone to replace the charging port, maybe you didn't put it together quite right, so over time something came loose or got pinched. Desktops and laptops use various types of adhesives such as thermal paste, and computer technicians have to remember to reapply new adhesive when putting a machine back together. Maybe phones use some adhesive too, and maybe you forgot to reapply it?
Hopefully someone more knowledgeable about phone hardware will chime in, but the Incredible 2 section of these forums has been a ghost town lately. That's why I'm giving my two cents. If it were me, I'd just buy a new phone.
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Disclaimer: You're at a more advanced level than I am. I've never done phone repair, and I don't know enough about phone hardware to say if there are other components that could be responsible. I'm a software guy.
That being said, I'll chime in with what I do know, on the off chance that it's actually helpful.
When computers get too hot, they do an automatic thermal shutdown to try to prevent permanent damage. I assume smartphones do this as well. You're on XDA, so there's a good chance you like to tinker. Did you overclock the phone? Overclocking generates more heat, which could potentially lead to a thermal shutdown or permanent damage. Or you might be using or storing the phone in a hot environment.
Have you tried using a different charging cable? Maybe the cable or its connector went bad. You could also test the cable with a different device. Maybe the wall outlet, etc went bad. Did you check the connectors that the battery attaches to, to make sure they're clean?
When you opened the phone to replace the charging port, maybe you didn't put it together quite right, so over time something came loose or got pinched. Desktops and laptops use various types of adhesives such as thermal paste, and computer technicians have to remember to reapply new adhesive when putting a machine back together. Maybe phones use some adhesive too, and maybe you forgot to reapply it?
Hopefully someone more knowledgeable about phone hardware will chime in, but the Incredible 2 section of these forums has been a ghost town lately. That's why I'm giving my two cents. If it were me, I'd just buy a new phone.
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well i greatly appreciate your lengthly response. to be honest, it is my mothers phone, which is why i want to try and fix it. i gave her an iphone so she really doesnt need this phone but i would like to figure out what is wrong because i do like to tinker with things. i have tried different chords, wall outlets, usb ports on the pc etc. i will reopen the phone to see if everything is back together, because thats the only thing i can think of from what you mentioned.
thanks again. if anyone has had a similar problem, let me know
sounds like you're either having a battery issue or need to replace your charge port on your phone. its a really simple process all you do is order the port from like amazon or ebay and the old one on your phone just unplugs from your phone circuit board there actually is a tutorial forum in the development page for the droid incredible 2 that gives you instructions on how to do this. hope this was of some help to you and if so please click thanks.
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sounds like you're either having a battery issue or need to replace your charge port on your phone. its a really simple process all you do is order the port from like amazon or ebay and the old one on your phone just unplugs from your phone circuit board there actually is a tutorial forum in the development page for the droid incredible 2 that gives you instructions on how to do this. hope this was of some help to you and if so please click thanks.
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The OP already tried both of those things.
Oh ok yeah i just noticed where he put that. Hardware problem maybe. Im more into software myself than i am hardware.
MINE TOO! Omg
This... it's too much. Okay, a month ago the damned power button got too hard to press in, which should have been a warning that the hardware was getting faulty I suppose. But I downloaded an app that let me use the volume button to turn screen on/off. (I won't say which because I half-blame it, unfairly, for killing my phone
(Sorry, I'm still —mourning! the death of my phone I guess.)
The app was an ugly solution, I guess, but it worked. (I couldn't turn the screen off easily, so I set the screen-off to 10 seconds.) And I hadn't used screenshots in a while so that was no big deal; and my ROM could get me to Recovery easily enough, so screw the power button, right?
But then last night, my phone STOPPED CHARGING! I did a batt pull, tried new cords; turned off every useful app. I even went back to stock ROM, which (even though plugged in) left me with 20% batt. Might as well have bricked it, I guess.
Nothing worked. I was able to turn bluetooth back on so I could use my Air Droid acct to get my on-phone pictures, at least (everything else is safe on the SD), and then I charged it overnight in the wall and hoped for the best.
I was pretty thrilled to wake up to 100% charged! —For a few minutes. As soon as I unplugged it, it started discharging fast, and then not even the wall charger stopped it from discharging.
After brooding, for a few hours, I called Verizon tech. The tech (VERY nice, admittedly) said my Dinc2 was just dead. (Damn they're good: he was more sympathetic than a doctor delivering bad news!!) —But I feel so lost. He offered me a DNA or a Dinc 4G (and some motos and crap), but said my Dinc2 wouldn't be worth fixing. He said the power button alone was a PITA, but the dongle thing you plug the charger into was likely the problem, AND it might be the battery. Maybe he said other problems, but ultimately he suggested some pre-owneds he had for sale (I'm trying to keep my unlimited data plan), or try PhoneKarma.com. (He said he didn't recommend eBay, where they have Dinc 2s, but I'm not sure why.)
So ...do Dinc2s just have power issues after (?) 3 years? I guess that's a pretty good lifetime, but boy is it depressing. (I know — hooked on a damned phone. #Sucks.) I mean, it would be stupid to fix this one, or buy another one, right?
@Trebuchette, no matter what machine you use, rechargeable batteries do not last forever. Order a new battery from Amazon or eBay and you should be fine. They're pretty cheap and easy to replace. http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Incredible-6350-BTR6350B-Packaging/dp/B0064SI3QA
A case might make your power button easier to press. The OtterBox Defender is an excellent case that you can get for $15 used (very good condition), if a new battery successfully fixes your problem.
Hey: might be worth a shot! I did try another batt, but it was older too. And I didn't think of an otterbox at all, tbh. Thanks! Might be worth a try!
Hey: does it matter much if my USB cable is LG or whatever? I tried several different USBs too, but I'd been using this LG one (no idea how!) for probably about a year.
No, the brand of micro USB cable should not matter. It's a technical standard.
Don't buy a case until you've verified that a new battery actually fixes your problem. If a battery doesn't fix it, it's only a few bucks lost. In that case, I would then get a new phone.
i just came back to this thread after i basically put the project on hold for a while and wanted to see any new suggestions. so after leaving the phone alone for two months, i pluuged the phone in and i saw that orange ligh indicating it was charging. so far so good, im not using it as a primary phone which is good, but that would be my suggestion is to give the phone a rest for a while
EDIT: yeah scratch that, its doing the same **** now
A while back i used to "try" to root stuff. I sucked at it BAD. Anyway, I have a Galaxy Note 8.0 (GT-N5110) that I had rooted to a certain point (very superficial) and I just kept it the way it was, that way I could use Multi-window for any app. This morning I unplug my tab from the charger only to be disappointed that it will not turn on. Ive tried different power outlets, different cables, different base chargers, even the whole "power+vol_up+home" thing... nothing. I never updated the tab when Kitkat came through the pipeline. Im freaking out that a new major update automatically happened overnight or something. Im sorry to trouble you all, but does anyone have suggestions? Since it's rooted I can't take it to Samsung or Best Buy. Honestly if I could just get it back to stock, that would be awesome, but im more concerned about getting it to simply turn on. Any Ideas?
If your device is rooted you won't get an OTA update so that could not be the problem. You can try to unplug battery (mus open the device)"and see what happened. Maybe your battery is faulty or someting else.
K... I appreciate it Ill take a look. But, lets say I actually open it (without making things worse), how do I determine if the battery is in fact faulty? If it is, can I get a replacement? preferably an official samsung one.
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Scratch that. Sry, Im just always scared of doin stuff, so I always feel like I have to ask the question, but I'll look it up. Im confident at least this should be easy enough for me to do Thank you again.
The problem with this device is you cannot pull out the battery easily. Maybe after that steps it boots up again.
Battery removal wasn't bad... now I'm just waiting for a new one (ordered on ebay, crossing fingers hoping it was legit). What did you mean "after that steps it boots up agin."? Will the tablet boot up without the battery if it's plugged in or something?
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Battery removal wasn't bad... now I'm just waiting for a new one (ordered on ebay, crossing fingers hoping it was legit). What did you mean "after that steps it boots up agin."? Will the tablet boot up without the battery if it's plugged in or something?
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Wow, that suck. sorry for you man. For now, try to plug the tablet to a computer and while device manager opened and see if there is change. If the change say "qhsusb" or something along that line and not your model number . . . changing battery wont do anything because it's already hard bricked. if not, finger cross.
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What did you mean "after that steps it boots up agin."? Will the tablet boot up without the battery if it's plugged in or something?
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No. But sometimes after this step and reconnecting the battery the device boots up. Also a battery calibration is done.
I tried plugging in the tablet to the computer with the old battery and then without any battery. Neither one prompted anything in the device manager. Today I got the new battery (assuming its legit and in good condition) in the mail. I plugged it in, and nothing. Plugged the tablet with the new battery to the wall charger, nothing. Plugged the tablet with the new battery to the computer while running device manager, nothing.
I'm going assume that the new battery is dead and let it stay connected to the wall charger for 8+ hrs, and see if there are any changes.
I just really don't understand what the deal is and why this would randomly happen. Ive never had problems with the firmware or anything. I have felt like there was an issue with the battery being that it doesn't seem to be keeping much of a charge... but for it to just Hard Brick like this seems so out of the blue. Can anyone provide me with additional suggestions please?
Maybe I'll ask it this way...
Is there any way to test if the batteries are food? That way I can at least determine if the tablet is in fact hard bricked or just bad batteries.
Might not be what you want to hear, but if different cables, chargers and batteries don't work, then maybe there was a power surge overnight while the device was plugged into the wall that took out the device (I once lost a computer that way and now I only use surge suppressors (note that not all power bars are proper surge protectors! See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surge_protector ) that are UL 1449 certified with a low clamping voltage and high energy absorption rating as a minimum; the fancier ones can even tell you if your wall outlet has a grounding problem). Or your tablet's USB port is broken, but that doesn't make sense based on what you've said thus far. Or you're just super-unlucky and all of your replacement parts are also faulty (it could happen). Either way, I've got my fingers crossed for you!
In the meantime, a multimeter would be able to tell if the batteries hold a charge, and whether or not power flows to the device when the battery is attached or the device is plugged into the wall or computer.
Just make sure you read up on how to use one first so you don't accidentally electrocute yourself:
https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/how-to-use-a-multimeter
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In the meantime, a multimeter would be able to tell if the batteries hold a charge, and whether or not power flows to the device when the battery is attached or the device is plugged into the wall or computer.
Just make sure you read up on how to use one first so you don't accidentally electrocute yourself:
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Ill definitely be looking into this option in depth tomorrow, and deeply appreciate it. At least it's something. T_T I don't want my tablet going to electro grave. This sucks so bad. This has been a month from hell
First my printer decides its time to start printing crooked over a couple of months, getting so bad that it jams up a few weeks ago, requiring me to get a new printer, which has been a fiasco in and of itself that still hasnt been resolved. Ive gone through 4 printers in one week, all of them different model printers, all from HP, and each and every one of them defective.
Then my laptops video card tweaks out because of installing Splashtop Stream, which starts a domino effect requiring me to do a factory reset on the laptop.
Then my Tablet just decides to kill over.
Then my Microsoft Arc mouse decides it doesn't the want to wheel to work requiring me to purchase a new one, and when I receive it, the cover for the battery compartment is missing and the wheel click is defective. It took 2 and a half weeks to resolve
Then I get bronchitis.
all in less than a month.
Alright, ya... it's dead. Oh well. Here's me trying to make the most of it: are there any places that buy bricked tabs? I figure the parts have to have some sort of salvage value.... maybe.
You can't go to a Samsung service shop? They might not fix it under warranty, but I assume they'll have a look at it and give you an estimation? I feel for you, we all have had these awful weeks... I soft bricked my pad, my computer started to play up, my other computer decided it wanted to die after years of hard work and not skipping a beat, my son got the flu, the missus was on her monthly(grumpy wife..take cover), and when I took a break from it all on the toilet I found that we had run out of paper! To make matters worse, my favorite football team lost from a second division team.. This all happened in one single day! So chin up, it might take a week, but when all it's fixed again you'll experience deep appreciation for the things you have taken for granted.... (xda fixed my tablet, time fixed my wife)
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Sry for delayed response.
Im very very doubtful that Samsung will help. I have two more... ideas, before I go to Samsung. Non-invasive of coarse, wouldn't want to make matters worse.
K, So first off I took the tablet with extra battery to a tech place in the area that said the batteries are fine, but when they put a multimeter to the motherboard nothing came back. Basically its dead according to them. There's one more shop in the area I want to get a second opinion from. Next, does anyone know anything about an app called "Splashtop Stream"? I'm a fond user of Splashtop to control/view my computer straight my tablet, but when I installed "Splashtop Stream" to use the tablet as an extended screen (not just a cloned second screen), my tablet and both computers I tried it with did NOT like it. I immediately uninstalled it, but it dawned on me that it was just a matter of days later that my Tablet died. I hate to grasp at straws, but if an app like that is too resource intensive, I'm okay with seeing a connection that it fried my tablet. I can't just ask Splashtop "Hey, does your app fry motherboards", so I need a way of researching legitimate known problems. I can't afford a $400 tablet right now.
The reason why I'm using Samsung as a last resort is because it's outside my warranty time, and the moment they know that I did even the simple fast-mod on it, they'll slap it down and won't help. There no custom boot or Roms on it.
With all this said, any suggestions anyone?
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You can't go to a Samsung service shop? They might not fix it under warranty, but I assume they'll have a look at it and give you an estimation? I feel for you, we all have had these awful weeks... I soft bricked my pad, my computer started to play up, my other computer decided it wanted to die after years of hard work and not skipping a beat, my son got the flu, the missus was on her monthly(grumpy wife..take cover), and when I took a break from it all on the toilet I found that we had run out of paper! To make matters worse, my favorite football team lost from a second division team.. This all happened in one single day! So chin up, it might take a week, but when all it's fixed again you'll experience deep appreciation for the things you have taken for granted.... (xda fixed my tablet, time fixed my wife)
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O_O That does suck!! Sry man.
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Sry for delayed response.
Im very very doubtful that Samsung will help. I have two more... ideas, before I go to Samsung. Non-invasive of coarse, wouldn't want to make matters worse.
K, So first off I took the tablet with extra battery to a tech place in the area that said the batteries are fine, but when they put a multimeter to the motherboard nothing came back. Basically its dead according to them. There's one more shop in the area I want to get a second opinion from. Next, does anyone know anything about an app called "Splashtop Stream"? I'm a fond user of Splashtop to control/view my computer straight my tablet, but when I installed "Splashtop Stream" to use the tablet as an extended screen (not just a cloned second screen), my tablet and both computers I tried it with did NOT like it. I immediately uninstalled it, but it dawned on me that it was just a matter of days later that my Tablet died. I hate to grasp at straws, but if an app like that is too resource intensive, I'm okay with seeing a connection that it fried my tablet. I can't just ask Splashtop "Hey, does your app fry motherboards", so I need a way of researching legitimate known problems. I can't afford a $400 tablet right now.
The reason why I'm using Samsung as a last resort is because it's outside my warranty time, and the moment they know that I did even the simple fast-mod on it, they'll slap it down and won't help. There no custom boot or Roms on it.
With all this said, any suggestions anyone?
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I randomly bumped here and I'm no expert, but if your tablet's motherboard is indeed dead, I believe there is absolutely no way they can tell that the device got rooted at some point. You did not "hard brick" it, that's a whole other thing, or at least so I've learned in my not-very-long experience. "Hard brick" should be the result of flashing a kernel made some other device, which definitely is not your case. Moreover, that does not kill the motherboard, it just makes anything unbootable: it's a software problem, so it can actually be detected. You had a hardware failure that most likely completely wiped any proof that you have ever modified your device, so the only problem that you might have, I think, is them telling you that they take no responsibility for what your power outlet has done to the device, but they shouldn't be able to detect any modification that you have made. In my opinion technical support is worth trying.
Awesome!! Thank you so much!
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Awesome!! Thank you so much!
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You're welcome, good luck!
Just thought Id let everyone know that I managed to get Samsung to compromise on the matter since the Tablet is only 5 months past warranty (1yr 5mnths since purchase). So, not much longer and hopefully Ill have a tablet that works yet again.
http://www.shopandroid.com/seidio-type-c-desktop-charging-cradle/6A39A24394.htm
Was considering getting one of these, but before I order, I'd like to know what you all are using if any and if they work as intended or not.
Thanks for the input.
Steve
I got this one. Works well. My only compliant would be that the phone does not easily come off the dock. You have to hold down the dock in order to pull the phone free of it.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JP6UZ9A/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I got this one. Works well. My only compliant would be that the phone does not easily come off the dock. You have to hold down the dock in order to pull the phone free of it.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JP6UZ9A/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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That is what I was hoping not to hear, since I wake up and kinda blindly grab my phone. I suspect I would totally destroy the phone and/or case with that..
I miss wireless charging
nicholb said:
I got this one. Works well. My only compliant would be that the phone does not easily come off the dock. You have to hold down the dock in order to pull the phone free of it.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JP6UZ9A/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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all cradle does this, the USB clicks together with the phone.
I have one that I used for my G5, it will also work with the the V20, input is micro USB and output is type C, both charging and data transfer, cost me about USD 3.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/lg-v20/738516-lg-v20-wireless-charging-confirmed-sorta.html
Wireless may be coming???
Seppeku said:
http://www.shopandroid.com/seidio-type-c-desktop-charging-cradle/6A39A24394.htm
Was considering getting one of these, but before I order, I'd like to know what you all are using if any and if they work as intended or not.
Thanks for the input.
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Well, I've been searching for the past few days trying to find a charging dock from an at least somewhat reputable-looking company (read: no Chinese/wholesale docks from Amazon) but couldn't find anything until I happened upon this post! So I just ordered one of those from Amazon. Should be here early next week and I will try to give you my impressions of it, though I still don't have my V20 so I can't really test it out fully.
Did you get it cheaper than what androidcentral is selling them for? When is your V20 supposed to be coming in?
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Did you get it cheaper than what androidcentral is selling them for? When is your V20 supposed to be coming in?
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It came out to $30.90 on Android Central including shipping, which would take 7-11 days. On Amazon with Prime it's $31.95 so for the extra dollar I'd rather just get it in two days and not have to worry in case my phone decides to come, plus very easy returns in case it doesn't work or for some reason I just really don't like it.
I pre-ordered from B&H but still no word from them on when it will ship. Somebody on Reddit said he spoke to them on Live Chat a few days ago and they told him "soon after the 1st"... FWIW I spoke to somebody on Live Chat a few days ago too and they said they had no information to give me. However something I noticed is that the listing on the B&H site recently changed from "Expected Availability: November whatever whatever" to "Ship Date: Not Available". So I hope that means it's going to be shipping soon. I live right outside of NYC so usually anything I buy from them gets here next-day. Everybody who have their carrier-branded phones already are really making me impatient to get my hands on this thing.
Cool. I got my Verizon on Oct 21st and so far I'm loving it. Great phone!
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Cool. I got my Verizon on Oct 21st and so far I'm loving it. Great phone!
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Ok, just got my phone today. Same! This thing is pretty awesome. I'm really liking it so far. I shot off an email to Seidio at the beginning of the week asking them about the charging specs of the dock and if fast-charge would work through it... they never got back to me but when I put my phone in the dock today it said fast-charging was enabled! Kinda surprised to be honest but looks like it works. Only problem is the cable is bright white and the charger is like a dark matte black. Gonna have to look into buying a different cable.
https://www.amazon.com/V20-Desktop-...8&qid=1478826769&sr=8-6&keywords=encased+dock
I purchased this one. It works fine although I whish it was a little heavier so I wouldnt have to hold it down so hard when removing the phone from it. I do like the height adjustability of the connector so it works with different cases.
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https://www.amazon.com/V20-Desktop-...8&qid=1478826769&sr=8-6&keywords=encased+dock
I purchased this one. It works fine although I whish it was a little heavier so I wouldnt have to hold it down so hard when removing the phone from it. I do like the height adjustability of the connector so it works with different cases.
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That's the one I got. The thing I especially love is that even though you do have to hold the dock down as you pull the phone off, the dock has plenty of area to press down on and the resistance of the phone unplugging is relative small. I had a dock for my Note 4 and first of all, the phone required quite a bit of force to pull off the charger, and second of all, the stand didn't really have much area to hold down on while pulling off the phone.
So coming from past experience, trust me, this dock is pretty nice despite the flaws. Lol
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I am making this post so it is more broadly seen by people who have a specific hardware issue.
This solution is for issues specifically with the board being fried or more likely broken solder connection. I found this solution while browsing Chinese Custom Rom threads and apparently it works.
Absolutely it's better to pay a professional reball the broken solder connection.
There is a do it yourself/cheap method that definitely does not involve using an Oven.
I included photos at the bottom of the link and rather than create a redundant post, for something that I have already made : Go here for the Jerry Rig Suggestion
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79303956&postcount=72
Good Luck
Make sure you followed all of the unbricking steps here https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/how-to/unbrick-leeco-phones-leeco-variants-t3847220 before even considering this method..
There are 3 unbricking methods mentioned
Qfil with Flash 2.0 or 1.9 ( Try both)
QPST ( Instructions in first comment of unbricking thread)
Flashbat.all method ( Instructions on Unbrick OP, and in first couple of comments)
Hi
What do you think, can I repair this problem? :
My phone is dead. It is not able to turn on, it just squezing sometimes, if I push the turn on button. The screen is full black since the shut down. No logo no any fastboot screen, nothing. The led light was pale green before the qfil.
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Hi
What do you think, can I repair this problem? :
My phone is dead. It is not able to turn on, it just squezing sometimes, if I push the turn on button. The screen is full black since the shut down. No logo no any fastboot screen, nothing. The led light was pale green before the qfil.
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I wouldn't bother trying this possible solution unless you are 100% sure that you have broken solder connections. Just because your phone doesnt turn on doesn't mean its the chips. It much more likely that your issue is just the battery.
Also just so you know when the board is fried the phone will still turn on, and will boot to fastboot but not recovery, qfil works but does nothing and if you boot to fastboot and leave it on the fastboot screen the screen will turn to static. At least this is what happens with the majority of chip death issues. However there was one case that I know of on a friends X722 which could not go to fastboot, and that issue ended up being a fried GPU, which this possible fix may resolve.
If you are only getting a black screen leave the phone plugged in overnight ( preferably with a different cable) , After knowing that the phone was charged for long enough what happened? Did the phone get warm at all? Does the phone vibrate?
If the phone does vibrate, try using the QPST method, it's the 2nd post on the Unbricking thread mentioned above in the OP.
Another possible cause of your issue is static, they only way to test and possibly resolved is to unplug the battery from the board and plug back in again. Should you attempt trying this, only use a heat gun to melt the glue holding the screen on...there is alot and a hair dryer will not work, without damaging your LCD.
If I had your issue, I would order a battery and LCD, and swap the battery, there is a good chance it will work. If not you can move on to more drastic solutions such as the one mentioned in the OP. Worse case scenario, you will be out the cost of the battery which is about $7 and LCD which is about $15
Good Luck and make sure you followed all of the steps here https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/how-to/unbrick-leeco-phones-leeco-variants-t3847220
There are 3 unbricking methods mentioned
Qfil with Flash 2.0 or 1.9 ( Try both)
QPST ( Instructions in first comment of unbricking thread)
Flashbat.all method ( Instructions on Unbrick OP, and in first couple of comments)
I believe I read this thread before, but didn't read it well
This thing here I believe is very important, so much to put it in special color
>>Also just so you know when the board is fried the phone will still turn on, and will boot to fastboot but not recovery, qfil works but does nothing and if you boot to fastboot and leave it on the fastboot screen the screen will turn to static.
I guess it's certain now that I have some harware issue, most probably if GPU is separated from the CPU.
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the board being fried or more likely broken solder connection. I found this solution while browsing Chinese Custom Rom threads and apparently it works.
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I don't know if it's just me who is unlucky but I have lost yet another USB board. This time the one you sent me burnt up as I connected it to my PC. I don't think it's a cable issue because I was using a high quality USB cable from BASEUS. How could it be that I'm not seeing more complaints like mine?
This time I think it could have been caused by dirt in the port because I'd just returned from my rural area and there I did a lot of work involving dirt. Also, there was a slight shower that got me on my way back and I keep the phone in the pocket with the USB port exposed and looking up. My patience with this phone has just about run out now. This is the worst investment I've ever made on a phone :crying:
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I don't know if it's just me who is unlucky but I have lost yet another USB board. This time the one you sent me burnt up as I connected it to my PC. I don't think it's a cable issue because I was using a high quality USB cable from BASEUS. How could it be that I'm not seeing more complaints like mine?
This time I think it could have been caused by dirt in the port because I'd just returned from my rural area and there I did a lot of work involving dirt. Also, there was a slight shower that got me on my way back and I keep the phone in the pocket with the USB port exposed and looking up. My patience with this phone has just about run out now. This is the worst investment I've ever made on a phone :crying:
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Wow, sorry to hear that. I think that those LeEco phones are hit or miss. But it really doesn't seem that they were made to last more that a couple of years. I have fried the usb card myself, when I bought very first leeco, its too easy to fry those cards, and in retrospect the Leeco charge is too powerful. The remaining Leeco that I have left charges much better ( stays cooler) when using my Xiaomi Charger.
I agree that you have had some really bad luck. I would not put any more money into it. you are better off buying a cheap Xiaomi...even a used one. You can find some good deals on Amazon and Swappa. Amazon also has refurbished Samsung phones, and they are highly reliable.
You can get a Galaxy 7 for $139 https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Gala...s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1573693012&sr=1-4&th=1 and they are really good phones.
Here is a renewed One Plus 6T for $267 https://www.amazon.com/OnePlus-A601...ked+cell+phones+renewed&qid=1573693220&sr=8-4
LG V30 for $177 https://www.amazon.com/LG-Camera-Si...ed+cell+phones+renewed&qid=1573693365&sr=8-21
I bought my daughter an A3 and honestly I can't recommend it enough. For a tight budget I personally feel that this is one of the best deals out there for ony $158 ( $50 less than what I paid 2 months ago) https://www.amazon.com/Xiaomi-A3-64...=sr_1_3?keywords=Xiaomi&qid=1573693435&sr=8-3
It has an Amoled Screen and comes with Android One with zero bloatware. You basically get a custom rom experience with a stock phone. To make matters better Android 10 will be released for the A3 in January. The camera, is light years better than the Le Pro 3 and the processor is honestly fast enough, for most of us. No doubt, its more expensive than just getting another card. But saving yourself from the hassles of these constant issues will make it worthwhile. The only drawback is the screen is 720 instead of 1080. But I swear, if you place in side by side with my Mi8, most people would never guess, that the resolution is a little less. Because it's still an amoled screen.
Best wishes, unfortunately I don't have any more working cards or I would send it to you.
I've learned that quick charge is dangerous. I'm using now an usb meter that doesn't let an output beyond 1.4amps to charge my phone now, it charges pretty quickly in fact and my phone doesn't get hot now (even that I live in a hot area)
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I've learned that quick charge is dangerous. I'm using now an usb meter that doesn't let an output beyond 1.4amps to charge my phone now, it charges pretty quickly in fact and my phone doesn't get hot now (even that I live in a hot area)
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Yeah. The current pushed by the stock leeco charger is either too high (doubtful) or the charging system of the pro 3 isn't designed to handle quick charge 3 very well (most likely). I have used my stock leeco charger to charge my brother's Nokia 8 (Q.C. 3) and it gets just a little warm even with a case on. Also, the leeco charger is Quick Charge 3 certified so they must have made it according to Qualcomm standards.
I think it's the quality of the parts on the phone itself that are substandard. Since this USB board was sent to me by @tsongming and he had used it quite a while, I believe it could have been perfectly fine. My suspicion is that something else could be wrong with my phone like the USB flex cable. The kind of burning I saw must have been caused by power from the battery because the USB 2.0 port I was connecting to on my PC can only provide 2.5 amps maximum. This is not enough in my opinion to completely melt the usb-c receptacle on the phone. (It's very badly burnt). I will just have to charge the battery externally until I figure out whether it's worth investing any more money into this phone.
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Yeah. The current pushed by the stock leeco charger is either too high (doubtful) or the charging system of the pro 3 isn't designed to handle quick charge 3 very well (most likely). I have used my stock leeco charger to charge my brother's Nokia 8 (Q.C. 3) and it gets just a little warm even with a case on. Also, the leeco charger is Quick Charge 3 certified so they must have made it according to Qualcomm standards.
I think it's the quality of the parts on the phone itself that are substandard. Since this USB board was sent to me by @tsongming and he had used it quite a while, I believe it could have been perfectly fine. My suspicion is that something else could be wrong with my phone like the USB flex cable. The kind of burning I saw must have been caused by power from the battery because the USB 2.0 port I was connecting to on my PC can only provide 2.5 amps maximum. This is not enough in my opinion to completely melt the usb-c receptacle on the phone. (It's very badly burnt). I will just have to charge the battery externally until I figure out whether it's worth investing any more money into this phone.
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My X722 died because I just plugged in the cable to charge. Although I have to admit that the phone socket was not in optimal conditions because I used a crappy cable, so the last one I was using was charging fine but it had to enter in an specific position in order to quick charge to function. It's probably the charger IC that is damaged, but I haven't had the money to send it to repair.
As far as I know, the motherboards just provide 0.5amp unless you are using an special port that can provide more power.
In my opinion 2.5amp at 5v is not that good either, because it's pushing the limit of most phones at 5v.
I am guessing that buying the original $30 USB board from AliExpress won't buy me much time because they have all been used before. Almost every spare part of this phone is not brand new (except for batteries and screens, I guess).
I think it's time to cut my losses. My pro 3 not only needs a new USB board but also a battery and another high quality USB cable. I might buy all of that for $60 only to have the USB port burn again. It doesn't make any sense to keep pouring money into this phone.
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What ? $30 usd ? I've seen it in $2.5 for 2 boards, well, not original of course.
You just need to check that it has the extra IC, because there are ones that doesn't has it... although I don't remember what was for that IC, but you can easy see it that some boards just are missing a chip.
As for the cable, I'm using some EFFE cables (EFFE is the brand) and they are working wonderfully, I bought 3 for $7 usd, they plug in fine and stay in too, they were recommended to me by a friend and I'm very happy with them. They even stop giving charge to my dead phone because they detect somehow that there is a short, well, at least that is what my usb meter tells me, although I don't know how do they manage to do that, I don't really think they have an IC in them.
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I am guessing that buying the original $30 USB board from AliExpress won't buy me much time because they have all been used before. Almost every spare part of this phone is not brand new (except for batteries and screens, I guess).
I think it's time to cut my losses. My pro 3 not only needs a new USB board but also a battery and another high quality USB cable. I might buy all of that for $60 only to have the USB port burn again. It doesn't make any sense to keep pouring money into this phone.
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For the record the board that I sent you came from a brand new, LePro 3 not opened bought in the spring 2018. However, I assume that it was made after Leecos public fall. I would guess that it was assembled with C grade parts, because my remaining, working LePro 3 is one of our first Leecos bought in 2016. It's also interesting to note that our 2 remaining X522s are both functioning just fine.
As you said could be the flex cables or just a shoddy soldering job that eventually shortened out the board.
Have you tested the board to be sure that it's not the port itself that is bad?
Another interesting thing to note is that Qualcomm removed Leeco from it's list of approved quick charge device list.
One last reason on why I feel that the charger itself may be part of the problem is that I have a 12 watt portable charger and the Leecos do not get hot at all when using it.
I threw my Leeco charging bricks in the trash after my daughter plugged in my Mi8 for me while I was cooking dinner. Not knowing that I had a preference, she used the Leeco charger.
Later when I checked the phone to see if it was finished charging, I found it was extremely hot, and this phone is rated for QC 4.0. So rather than taking any chances into the trash it went.
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For the record the board that I sent you came from a brand new, LePro 3 not opened bought in the spring 2018. However, I assume that it was made after Leecos public fall. I would guess that it was assembled with C grade parts, because my remaining, working LePro 3 is one of our first Leecos bought in 2016. It's also interesting to note that our 2 remaining X522s are both functioning just fine.
As you said could be the flex cables or just a shoddy soldering job that eventually shortened out the board.
Have you tested the board to be sure that it's not the port itself that is bad?
Another interesting thing to note is that Qualcomm removed Leeco from it's list of approved quick charge device list.
One last reason on why I feel that the charger itself may be part of the problem is that I have a 12 watt portable charger and the Leecos do not get hot at all when using it.
I threw my Leeco charging bricks in the trash after my daughter plugged in my Mi8 for me while I was cooking dinner. Not knowing that I had a preference, she used the Leeco charger.
Later when I checked the phone to see if it was finished charging, I found it was extremely hot, and this phone is rated for QC 4.0. So rather than taking any chances into the trash it went.
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Wow!! Leeco really must have used grade c parts. I haven't mistreated that board even once since you sent it. That means it only lasted three months! It is just unbelievably negligent for leeco to use these parts. They must have been from the reject pile.
I don't need to test the board because the USB-C receptacle on the phone is completely melted. Connecting a charging cable seems to cause it to heat up fast and start smoking. It might have been a short on the connector that caused it to burn up. I think the quality of the protruding part with the pin connectors is just poor and repeated use loosens the pins which eventually touch.
I'm done with leeco for good now. I was thinking about fixing the phone to sell but that now seems like a lost cause. I'll keep it until it's dead and then take a hammer to it. Even selling it for spare parts might be a loss for me so I'm stuck with it.
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twistyplain said:
Wow!! Leeco really must have used grade c parts. I haven't mistreated that board even once since you sent it. That means it only lasted three months! It is just unbelievably negligent for leeco to use these parts. They must have been from the reject pile.
I don't need to test the board because the USB-C receptacle on the phone is completely melted. Connecting a charging cable seems to cause it to heat up fast and start smoking. It might have been a short on the connector that caused it to burn up. I think the quality of the protruding part with the pin connectors is just poor and repeated use loosens the pins which eventually touch.
I'm done with leeco for good now. I was thinking about fixing the phone to sell but that now seems like a lost cause. I'll keep it until it's dead and then take a hammer to it. Even selling it for spare parts might be a loss for me so I'm stuck with it.
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I am sure that they used low quality parts on those last batches of phone, I heard via a friend who lives in Shenzhen that they hired a 3rd party to assemble the final phones... The ones that came with 32gb drives, no nfc or quick charge etc. It sucks because they had so much potential.
Whatever you end up getting. Please do stay in touch, I have enjoyed our conversations and I wish you the best.
tsongming said:
I am sure that they used low quality parts on those last batches of phone, I heard via a friend who lives in Shenzhen that they hired a 3rd party to assemble the final phones... The ones that came with 32gb drives, no nfc or quick charge etc. It sucks because they had so much potential.
Whatever you end up getting. Please do stay in touch, I have enjoyed our conversations and I wish you the best.
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This puppy is not out yet. I figure it's got one last hurrah before I throw in the towel. I've been shopping around for a phone with similar performance for around the same price but from the current generation of phones and I've not come across anything else. At least not in the same price range. Performance is very important to me and I just can't take a downgrade. I guess I'm stuck with it for a while.
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twistyplain said:
This puppy is not out yet. I figure it's got one last hurrah before I throw in the towel. I've been shopping around for a phone with similar performance for around the same price but from the current generation of phones and I've not come across anything else. At least not in the same price range. Performance is very important to me and I just can't take a downgrade. I guess I'm stuck with it for a while.
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Its good that it's still working for now. Unfortunately you probably only have 4 to 6 weeks before it stops working completely. I was thinking about you situation and made the list below of additional options/good deals.
The Snapdragon 665 has similar performance to the Snapdragon 821 and the Note 8, (the version with the SD665) can be had for under $200 : https://www.amazon.com/Xiaomi-Displ...keywords=Snapdragon+665&qid=1573874157&sr=8-2
If you can spend a just a little more the Mi8's price has dropped to $250, https://www.amazon.com/Xiaomi-6-64G...ef=sr_1_1?keywords=Mi+8&qid=1573874317&sr=8-1 and I can't recommend it enough. It's definitely my most favorite phone that I have owned and I know that you care about the camera a lot. I can promise that the Mi 8 has one hell of a great camera, and stock camera, is absolutely fantastic, especially with video. In fact, I prefer it for video over the latest Pixel 7.XXX Camera and yes it does Astrophotography.
As I mentioned before the A3, is much better than you would ever expect and you can find them for $150.
If budget is a primary concern: It is definitely worth looking at among the best new phones for the money. Plus the bootloader is easily unlocked with no waiting period. if you want a new phone for around $150. I honestly can't think of a better phone, and as I mentioned my daughter has this phone, so I have actually used it, and I am telling you, it's damn good.
Another option is buying a used 128GB Pixel refurbished $120
I have seen them for as low as $75, or you could buy a One Plus 3T
Edit: I just now found this phone and although it has a mediatek processor, its brand new , has Android 9.0 , 4gb ram, 64 gb hd space and it's just a little over $100 UMIDIGI Power This may be the one, if you can deal with processor but there's a lot of people who say that this phone is great, I dont know if you can use roms, but I have heard that it doesn't have bloatware, so it be a smart buy. Edit : The $118 price is a lightning deal, and the price will go backup to $139 by the time you read this. In that case, I would personally avoid it, but I am am a little biased against mediatek for reasons. Mostly heat and poor battery life.
tsongming said:
Its good that it's still working for now. Unfortunately you probably only have 4 to 6 weeks before it stops working completely. I was thinking about you situation and made the list below of additional options/good deals.
The Snapdragon 665 has similar performance to the Snapdragon 821 and the Note 8, (the version with the SD665) can be had for under $200 : https://www.amazon.com/Xiaomi-Displ...keywords=Snapdragon+665&qid=1573874157&sr=8-2
If you can spend a just a little more the Mi8's price has dropped to $250, https://www.amazon.com/Xiaomi-6-64G...ef=sr_1_1?keywords=Mi+8&qid=1573874317&sr=8-1 and I can't recommend it enough. It's definitely my most favorite phone that I have owned and I know that you care about the camera a lot. I can promise that the Mi 8 has one hell of a great camera, and stock camera, is absolutely fantastic, especially with video. In fact, I prefer it for video over the latest Pixel 7.XXX Camera and yes it does Astrophotography.
As I mentioned before the A3, is much better than you would ever expect and you can find them for $150.
If budget is a primary concern: It is definitely worth looking at among the best new phones for the money. Plus the bootloader is easily unlocked with no waiting period. if you want a new phone for around $150. I honestly can't think of a better phone, and as I mentioned my daughter has this phone, so I have actually used it, and I am telling you, it's damn good.
Another option is buying a used 128GB Pixel refurbished $120
I have seen them for as low as $75, or you could buy a One Plus 3T
Edit: I just now found this phone and although it has a mediatek processor, its brand new , has Android 9.0 , 4gb ram, 64 gb hd space and it's just a little over $100 UMIDIGI Power This may be the one, if you can deal with processor but there's a lot of people who say that this phone is great, I dont know if you can use roms, but I have heard that it doesn't have bloatware, so it be a smart buy. Edit : The $118 price is a lightning deal, and the price will go backup to $139 by the time you read this. In that case, I would personally avoid it, but I am am a little biased against mediatek for reasons. Mostly heat and poor battery life.
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Tony, you're among very few people I know who are invaluable to communities like these. I'm always impressed by how easily you go out of your way to help community members at XDA. Thank you so much for always being helpful even when you don't have to be. If I had the means I would buy you several cases of beer (or whatever non-alcoholic beverage you like) just to say how much I appreciate you. But for now I can just say THANK YOU!! From the bottom of my heart.
Out of all the options you gave me just now and a few days ago, the brand new Mi A3 is the best option by far. Refurbished is a no-go and yes, I hate Mediatek too. Been there, done that, but once you've got a taste of Qualcomm, there's simply no going back. I'm inclined to go for the A3 because of its AMOLED screen, UFS 2.1, decent camera, and, most importantly, it's price-performance ratio. It doesn't beat the A2 in performance but it more than makes up for it in the additional features.
I am going to keep the pro 3 as long as I can to see if prices drop even more (I'm all about the value). It's only my charging port that's gone so I'm taking out the battery and charging it externally for as long as I can. Everything else works normally. I'm also on my last ROM for this phone -- I can't flash another one because I changed to TWRP 3.2.1 which doesn't see my internal storage anymore (encryption).
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tylerciggy said:
What ? $30 usd ? I've seen it in $2.5 for 2 boards, well, not original of course.
You just need to check that it has the extra IC, because there are ones that doesn't has it... although I don't remember what was for that IC, but you can easy see it that some boards just are missing a chip.
As for the cable, I'm using some EFFE cables (EFFE is the brand) and they are working wonderfully, I bought 3 for $7 usd, they plug in fine and stay in too, they were recommended to me by a friend and I'm very happy with them. They even stop giving charge to my dead phone because they detect somehow that there is a short, well, at least that is what my usb meter tells me, although I don't know how do they manage to do that, I don't really think they have an IC in them.
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Sorry I hadn't seen this post. The cheaper boards tagged as "copy" boards don't have working quick charge or ability to connect to pc for mtp file transfer. They're only good for slow charging and sometimes even that is hit or miss. The boards that cost between $25 and $30 are original leeco boards. Probably not brand new but original. They have all features of the original like quick charge, mtp, otg, cdla and everything else the new phone could do. I wouldn't even consider going close to the cheaper "copy" boards.
I had a single 50 cm baseus USB cable that i bought for around $4 and it was of very good quality. It even supported usb PD and it was built like a tank. Just holding it gives you confidence that it's gonna last a while. Even the board getting fried didn't damage the cable but I'm not using it again. The power pin on the usb cable changed from gold to just plain silver so it must have taken some damage. I would buy a new one to be safe.
I'm done repairing this phone for good. It's not worth the expense and there's too much uncertainty involved even after it's fixed. I could fix it and have it die barely a month later. That would be $50 down the drain. I'm not going through that again.
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It seems this phone is on its last leg now. Since yesterday the proximity sensor doesn't work. I think it must be all this opening and closing up of the metal shield to remove the battery. Also, the earpiece speaker only works in loudspeaker mode now. It doesn't work in calls. I think I might have an audio related software issue because sound isn't playing even if I play a music or video file. I have flashed another ROM but this behavior remains. Could this require me to flash persist?
Edit: The earpiece and proximity sensor are acting up because of the damaged USB board. Both work well when I use an app that tests hardware features. They are failing to work for phone calls and video playback because the phone is detecting that I have earphones plugged in. I figured this out when I reflashed a new PIE ROM and saw the headphone icon is always displayed on the status bar even without anything connected to the port. I guess the board getting fried messed up with jack detection.
@tsongming Please tell me if this motherboard is le pro3 x722 or le pro3 x720.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DD0JQRZe4t4KOmedt0eEThaGEOKBH3AZ/view?usp=sharing