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I won a WP7 phone!!!

Sadly, I won't get it til general availablity and I don't know which phone. Microsoft peeps are still being cagey with it. The guy wouldn't even let me take a pic of a LG WP7 device even though it's been all over the internet already. The only real new info I've gleaned is that they will support basic exchange policies like pin unlock and remote wipe. Still going to try and fenagle some more info out of them.

WTH? Congratulations!!

cool can i have it?

Congrats!.........

Depending on what they say, I might just get a HD2. The WP7 device is supposed to be general availability and they might make devices available before then and I'm not willing to wait.

niceeee
thats lucky and awesome!

Remember to colaborate with XDA and help WP7 become more awesome .

Windows 7 phone is dead before the official release

cgigate said:
Windows 7 phone is dead before the official release
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After having seen it in person, the whole OS is rather impressive. While it may not on paper be the #1 phone OS, it is rather good and will put up a good fight. Oh and they've only shown off around 70% of the OS's features. More positive info will come to light as we near launch.

RustyGrom said:
After having seen it in person, the whole OS is rather impressive.
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Did your opinion change for the better? I may be wrong, but I recall you were pretty negative about it.
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Oh and they've only shown off around 70% of the OS's features.
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Do you know this from seeing the features or is it what you think will happen?

vangrieg said:
Did your opinion change for the better? I may be wrong, but I recall you were pretty negative about it.
Do you know this from seeing the features or is it what you think will happen?
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I think I've always been relatively positive about the new OS. While some of the new restrictions are annoyingly restrictive, I don't think it'll be a problem for us. In one of the sessions today they showed off how devs will be able to unlock phones and it was just a desktop app that talks to the store. I can easily see this app being modified to just not talk to the store but I'm betting there will need to be more done than this. So while I still wish MS would open up the dev platform more, I somewhat respect the decisions they've made and I don't think it will be hard for the rest of us to have phones we can do as we wish with.
It was stated earlier in the week by one of the members of the WP7 team that only 70-80% of the OS had been shown off up to this point. However, after going hands on with a device for a while today, I didn't find much that we haven't seen yet. The whole thing is fluid and is super intuitive. It really is a joy to use. So I'm not sure how much is left to unveil but it seems rather useable today. But none of the WP7 guys that I talked to are using it full time yet so that's kind of telling.

nice... congrats... HD2 is still better looking then any of the WP7 phones we've seen... the only one that beats it is the prototype images of HD3 made in photoshop lol... dell lightening comes close, but hw keyboard kills it as well... just get the HD2, then u'll have to option of running 6.5 or android (90% possible so far) and prolly even wp7 when it comes out since it conforms to all specs ...

Pics or it didn't happen!

Jeeze. Necro thread!
I ended up deciding to wait for a WP7 device. The HD2 they had was a european model and couldn't do 3G here. A smartphone without 3G is useless. So I wait til October like everyone else. But at least it will be free.
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nice... congrats... HD2 is still better looking then any of the WP7 phones we've seen... the only one that beats it is the prototype images of HD3 made in photoshop lol... dell lightening comes close, but hw keyboard kills it as well... just get the HD2, then u'll have to option of running 6.5 or android (90% possible so far) and prolly even wp7 when it comes out since it conforms to all specs ...
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Not all the specs, AFAIK the chipsets in the HD2 do not conform to all the hardware specs that Microsoft has made for Windows Phone 7 compatibility. Things like the hardware image scaler for example are not present in the HD2, nor is support for hardware acceleration of the VC-1 codec.

Tired of people who have no idea what they're talking about being publicized?

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I mean really, that product of incest Dvorak who has been proven wrong time and time again is out to get another OS. I mean as many times as he's been wrong you could call it a good omen that he thinks WP7 will fail. You know, just like the iphone did? Not to mention the fact that none of these people are WP7 users and yet they feel obligated to argue the facts. None of them seem to know much about the phone other than "Ooh, it's a smooth UI." or *shudder* "It's just an iphone ripoff." It's a shame that they can't put real WP7 users on these radio shows to really talk about the benefits of the OS and because of that all people hear is the negatives. WP7 is the Cinderella OS as queer as that may sound. It's two ugly competitors that have lost any real drive because they're already swimming in cash and anything else is just excess. Then there's the OS that has more to offer, looks better, and is just waiting for it's time to shine. As someone who was just a few months ago an android fanboy the best change I've made recently was to a new phone OS. WP7 is just amazing and sadly unrecognised.

Why hate Galaxy S?

Get Mom to make you a hot chocolate and tuck you into bed, you'll feel much better after a good nights sleep.

amtrakcn said:
Why hate Galaxy S?
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Samsung put a terribly slow interface over an already laggy OS causing extreme slowdowns. Not to mention the T-mobile variation feels unbelievably cheap. Sure with a number of fixes you can make it run remotely decent but even after all that it's not too great a device.

gerryjoson said:
Get Mom to make you a hot chocolate and tuck you into bed, you'll feel much better after a good nights sleep.
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It's so adorable when people who are terrible at trolling attempt it.

z33dev33l said:
Samsung put a terribly slow interface over an already laggy OS causing extreme slowdowns. Not to mention the T-mobile variation feels unbelievably cheap. Sure with a number of fixes you can make it run remotely decent but even after all that it's not too great a device.
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TouchWiz is generally not a bad idea, just too iOS... the notification toggles are good designs.
I agree that the launcher was bad, I always replace it.
Galaxy S is a great device on hardware, Hummingbird, quadband WCDMA, best NAND, BlueTooth3.0, decent GPS chip (however functioning terrible)... Also the international version i9000 do have timely updates.
On late version TW performs better.
So I would blame US carriers for destorying the performance of GS. I've been running i9000 ROMs on my Captivate for months and never went back to i897ROMs. Well, my SIM is in my Focus now

amtrakcn said:
TouchWiz is generally not a bad idea, just too iOS... the notification toggles are good designs.
I agree that the launcher was bad, I always replace it.
Galaxy S is a great device on hardware, Hummingbird, quadband WCDMA, best NAND, BlueTooth3.0, decent GPS chip (however functioning terrible)... Also the international version i9000 do have timely updates.
On late version TW performs better.
So I would blame US carriers for destorying the performance of GS. I've been running i9000 ROMs on my Captivate for months and never went back to i897ROMs. Well, my SIM is in my Focus now
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Once you've gone WP7 having to flash roms and stuff just to make your device functional is rather tedious and boring. The captivate while my wife had it did run smoother than the Vibrant but still nowhere near a WP7 device. I still found my G1 running 2.1 runs faster than anything using touchwiz. and thats almost depressing. I don't see why carriers are blamed.

z33dev33l said:
Once you've gone WP7 having to flash roms and stuff just to make your device functional is rather tedious and boring. The captivate while my wife had it did run smoother than the Vibrant but still nowhere near a WP7 device. I still found my G1 running 2.1 runs faster than anything using touchwiz. and thats almost depressing. I don't see why carriers are blamed.
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That's why my SIM is in Focus now. Also better Battery life.
For GS, just dont use the TW launcher, that's really laggy.
ROMs of US variants update much much slower than other parts of the world. The latest official AT&T Captivate ROM is still on 2.1, while the Canadian Captivate is on 2.2 and Chinese version has official 2.2.1 (Significant bug-fix to 2.2) running. If it's not AT&T, who should be responsible for the difference?
Sorry for messing up your post...

amtrakcn said:
That's why my SIM is in Focus now. Also better Battery life.
For GS, just dont use the TW launcher, that's really laggy.
ROMs of US variants update much much slower than other parts of the world. The latest official AT&T Captivate ROM is still on 2.1, while the Canadian Captivate is on 2.2 and Chinese version has official 2.2.1 (Significant bug-fix to 2.2) running. If it's not AT&T, who should be responsible for the difference?
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The consumers. The Vibrant was updated not because ours was the most sold (T-mobile is like the bottom of the big 4 and has a vibrant 2 coming out soon) but because we griped and complained and rode T-mobile/Samsung enough. I hate to say it but a number of people who got the captivate were previous iphoners which for the most part are not very bright (Not being mean just a fact) They don't care what version of what they have as long as they can play angry birds and text. I think it's heavily on the consumers.

looks at title...
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Ok, off topic here
Here is the video of him bashing WP7 although Veronica had the right idea and debated him all the way
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucbt_q4uq20&feature=player_embedded

mike21pr said:
looks at title...
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Ok, off topic here
Here is the video of him bashing WP7 although Veronica had the right idea and debated him all the way
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucbt_q4uq20&feature=player_embedded
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Well, just like the title and the replies are saying. Dvorak doesn't know **** about what he talks about. This guy is a pure disgrace to the tech world.

It was fun, but it's time to move on from the Nitro HD

Just got a Galaxy Nexus. Ah, official Jelly Bean goodness.
Hope they release a stable CM10 soon for the Nitro so that you guys won't have to endure the bugs in the nightlies any longer.

hm...did not have to create a new thread for the non-essential information

-ReaL- said:
hm...did not have to create a new thread for the non-essential information
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+1

It makes sense.. I mean. It's general discussion and it is about the Nitro HD. Plus, is responding really helping?

Yeah, I decided to move on too...
Now, I'm waiting for Galaxy Note 2. I found that 4.5" screen is too small (but tablet is too big) for me.
Guys, I need your help. What is the actual price for used device in ideal condition (without scratches) I can ask - with two cases and new screen protector?
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You'd probably be lucky to get $300 because people are retards and think phones like the iPhone are awesome.

If any of you are offloading for cheap I may be interested. Its either snag a nitro for the wife or start tinkering with her infuse.
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not sure why you felt the need to make a ****ty remark about the cm10 guys on your way out but then again, you are here crowing about getting a year old phone so I shouldn't hold you to too high of a standard.

scott0 said:
not sure why you felt the need to make a ****ty remark about the cm10 guys on your way out but then again, you are here crowing about getting a year old phone so I shouldn't hold you to too high of a standard.
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Anyways I just wanted to say thanks to HO!NO! and Andasa (not sure where he went...woulda been a prodigy ) and of course the CM Team (aremcee). I'm moving on from this too. Loved this phone, and will drop in from time to time as my brother is taking this, but I just wanted to say thanks to the awesome XDA community here.
Edit: Just got a galaxy s3. Loving it, but I'm using my nitro for a while.

Whatever happened to HO! NO!?
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scott0 said:
not sure why you felt the need to make a ****ty remark about the cm10 guys on your way out but then again, you are here crowing about getting a year old phone so I shouldn't hold you to too high of a standard.
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Let's see, not only is the Nexus a newer phone than the Nitro (Oct 2011 for Nitro, Nov 2011 for Nexus), but it:
1) Actually has stable Jelly Bean from Google
2) Actually can make it through a day of heavy use and still have battery left over
3) Actually has more than 3 person developing for it
4) Runs twice as smoothly as the Nitro, and crashes...well, never.
But since you're on here bashing anyone who criticizes the faults of the Nitro, I guess I shouldn't hold you to too high of a standard either. Nor would I expect you to understand the logic behind why I went with the Nexus and not the One X or SGS3, or why one of my friends, an admin here on XDA, still keeps his Galaxy Nexus as a daily driver despite having an SGS3 and getting free phones to test all the time. But I'll give you a hint: specs alone don't determine the user experience.

scott0 said:
not sure why you felt the need to make a ****ty remark about the cm10 guys on your way out but then again, you are here crowing about getting a year old phone so I shouldn't hold you to too high of a standard.
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I don't understand where this is coming from. Looking at the 996gt2's original post, he didn't insult anyone at all. He just said he hoped the bugs with CM are worked out.

996gt2 said:
Let's see, not only is the Nexus a newer phone than the Nitro (Oct 2011 for Nitro, Nov 2011 for Nexus), but it:
1) Actually has stable Jelly Bean from Google
2) Actually can make it through a day of heavy use and still have battery left over
3) Actually has more than 3 person developing for it
4) Runs twice as smoothly as the Nitro, and crashes...well, never.
But since you're on here bashing anyone who criticizes the faults of the Nitro, I guess I shouldn't hold you to too high of a standard either. Nor would I expect you to understand the logic behind why I went with the Nexus and not the One X or SGS3, or why one of my friends, an admin here on XDA, still keeps his Galaxy Nexus as a daily driver despite having an SGS3 and getting free phones to test all the time. But I'll give you a hint: specs alone don't determine the user experience.
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well, i am sure you are well on your way to getting that rocket science project designed with your nexus, it will certainly get those daily tasks done that much better than the nitro, so much so that you felt the need to let us all know about your big decision.
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I don't understand where this is coming from. Looking at the 996gt2's original post, he didn't insult anyone at all. He just said he hoped the bugs with CM are worked out.
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i couldn't care less if you understand where this is coming from, if you wanted to understand, you'd do a search and find for yourself the op's incessant ****-talking about cm.
again though, i could not give 2 ****s if you get my post or not.

scott0 said:
well, i am sure you are well on your way to getting that rocket science project designed with your nexus, it will certainly get those daily tasks done that much better than the nitro, so much so that you felt the need to let us all know about your big decision.
i couldn't care less if you understand where this is coming from, if you wanted to understand, you'd do a search and find for yourself the op's incessant ****-talking about cm.
again though, i could not give 2 ****s if you get my post or not.
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Alright, I think the discussions have crossed the line with these last comments. There is no one perfect device for everyone... unless, of course, you are one of the Sheeple who believes everything Apple says. If we're so worried that someone else prefers another phone over what we have chosen ourselves, we may as well be playing for the other team.
Anyway, fun time's over, and as such:
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Convince me to buy the P2XL

Hey folks... first I am not trying to start anything negative....I really am wanting the P2XL but with the perceived issues I read about and the price tag I am having difficulty rationalizing the extra 400 dollars vs the Essential. I know many of the issues are blown a bit out of proportion. To me the best way of getting the facts is to go to the users who actually use the device...
I would be coming from the Nexus 6p.
Thanks for any information.

Mate, if you want a new Device and consider the Pixel 2 XL I just want to tell you: Get it and test it. If it fits your expectations stick with it, if not, change. Easy.
I also ordered mine but will get it in round about 5-10 days and despite all the negative press I am very excited. If it doesnt fit my expectations I will get my refund and done.
Btw: the hardest competitor to the Pixel 2 XL is the upcoming OnePlus 5t in my opinion and absolutely not the essential

Agreed, buy it and try it for yourself. The return process is pretty simple with Google if you change your mind. All you have to loose is a bit of time.

Buy it or don't buy, who cares, I got mine...

if you need to have to ask someone else for justification, you probably shouldn't buy it.

I think you should buy an iPhone. Those people have been convinced that their product is superior and they should buy it. So I think you should as well! Jk jk jk?

KevTN said:
Hey folks... first I am not trying to start anything negative....I really am wanting the P2XL but with the perceived issues I read about and the price tag I am having difficulty rationalizing the extra 400 dollars vs the Essential. I know many of the issues are blown a bit out of proportion. To me the best way of getting the facts is to go to the users who actually use the device...
I would be coming from the Nexus 6p.
Thanks for any information.
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What issues have you read about? Have you experienced these yourself? Every device has issues when released, this didn't stop me from buying. The price tag is there because Google DOESN'T want to sell hardware. They give you the price tag to deter you away, and it works for most.
I'm a Google/AOSP enthusiast - I was on every nexus device and Pixel. I will always be. Issues or not. Google has not once ever let me down like OnePlus has. I will stand behind Google and what ever it sells.
The company backing a product is also a huge selling point for me. Not to mention the phone rocks. Just an FYI. What phone has an orange power button!?

The essential phone would be the obvious buy if it wasn't for the camera. The extra $400 (closer to $500) is the premium I'm willing to pay to have the best camera ever on a phone. I have 2 young kids, so the ability to be able to pull out my phone and get an awesome picture every time is something I'm willing to pay for.
If you don't take a lot of pictures, there's plenty of better options out there for you. I'd consider the essential, the op 5t, the razer phone, heck even my old v20 is still rock solid and retains a removable battery and ir blaster.

KevTN said:
Hey folks... first I am not trying to start anything negative....I really am wanting the P2XL but with the perceived issues I read about and the price tag I am having difficulty rationalizing the extra 400 dollars vs the Essential. I know many of the issues are blown a bit out of proportion. To me the best way of getting the facts is to go to the users who actually use the device...
I would be coming from the Nexus 6p.
Thanks for any information.
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I have the P 2 XL and love the phone. Does everything right. The barely showing time of day and message notification is GREAT.
Also, the what music is playing now feature is helpful. If you don't want to buy and maybe return it, go to a Verizon store and handle
one for a few. You'll be able to tell alot from handling it and seeing if you like the screen. Def worth a look! Get the US Unlocked version
from Google or Swappa, not the Verizon due to locked down bootloader. p.s. Tried and returned the Essential. Doesn't compare.....

Your choice and hands-on is best test! My badboy Pixel XL 2 is rocking...

When the phone came out all reviews were overwhelmingly positive based on the reviewer's perception of the particular phone they were sent. My perception is the same. I love it! Very fast, very efficient, great camera and now the screen is great too! Based on most initial reviews and my own experience I'm guessing the phones with significant problems are very few compared to those that don't. Also the overall rating on this forum is 4.8.
I think most of the issues with the phone affect each of us (or don't affect us at all) differently based on how we use it. You have nothing to lose by trying it.

My XL is going back today. Apparently I have one of the 'bad' pOLED displays.
I could not care less about the saturation or whatever. And it's not just the blue shift on mine. The red and yellows that appear unless you are looking dead center ruin the experience.
This is not acceptable for $850+ device. The IPS LCD on my 2 yr old LG V10 is vastly superior to the Pixel 2 XL.
The quality control issue is real, and the denials by Google are sad. Here are two side by side from the other thread:
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I'm more than happy with mine. Although I'm still waiting for the 5t to come out but i think I'ma stick with XL. This thing is so smooth. Battery life and camera are the best two parts of the phone. The blue shift is not bothering me at all and although I'm not used to the natural colors but i think it could be fixed with custom kernels. Microphone is terrible tho.
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Thank folks for all the input....I do believe I will prob go with the 2XL

Question No more OP 9 Pro updates?

Really?
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The latest OTA is version 11.2.8.8.LE15AA, I think that one in the screenshot is the full version download preceding the latest OTA updates, but IDK for sure lol
Edit - my default kernel was built on Jul 8 2021, and android security date/level is 7/1/21 ... HTH

I read about OnePlus getting new people to make a team to work on Open Beta for 9/9Pro.
I like that!

New team is not something to like. It might be good but also be a disaster. Questions should be asked like WHY????? are they getting a new team? What happened to all the revenue they made and how are they using it? Who is controlling the company, One Plus or the Chinese government? Why the delay to begin with. I realized DP1 was developers preview and not beta but why not allow Google updates for DP 2 and three. Who cares that Oxygen was not on it yet. Now that stability been reached with Beta, let's us Early Adopters adopt. I refuse to buy a Google Pixel love my one plus but was so excited that it allowed BL to be unlocked but I feel let down by OP. Perhaps my expectations were unrealistic to begin with

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This update is from June. (end of the month)
There's an update (11.2.8.8) from July. (end of month)
So, following this logic, this week OnePlus might release a new one.

bencozzy said:
I'd be more worried if the US government was running it like apple with the new back door.
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Lol US government and Chinese as well because even though apple says they are all American blah blah but they are manufactured in China as well. Just all marketing etc

People get married, have kids, no more time to spend on Android. Priorities change.

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People get married, have kids, no more time to spend on Android. Priorities change. I also think not only priorities of people's lives but also Android itself and the huge slowdown of phone evolution. Actual since smartphone sales slowed companies like apple and Google created smart watches to help increase revenues. They first used the old nostalgic movies like knight rider or James bond to sell them even though Smart watches cannot do anything close to what the movies portrayed. You can make flippable phones but you won't see hologram s coming out of your phone. I know we love to always think of our technology being limitless but that dam law of physics keeps getting in the way. So now they will start with AR glasses with WebView capabilities. And when that fails, which it will because who wants a HUD I'm their line of sight. In 30 years we will events have implants and chips that will help the brain and technology link. Isn't it Neurolink that exists now. That technology is decades away. Because again we do not know how the body/brain will react and now I'm having flashback from the movie Black Mirror.
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Ain't no updates that can save this POS.

the support update page is only updated from time to time, it does not repesent the actual stage of the software.
At this point 11.2.8.8 is up 2 date. OnePlus updates bi-monthly.

sultan.of.swing said:
Ain't no updates that can save this POS.
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Get a life.. go buy an iphone or something and quit trolling

There's closed beta testing so maybe devs are focusing to it. Sad to see no fix for Gmail notification bug...

AndroPlus said:
There's closed beta testing so maybe devs are focusing to it. Sad to see no fix for Gmail notification bug...
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I think the gmail app just sux. I've experienced the late notifications across quite a few devices personally.

Oxygen sucks because of google. The more google on it the more bad Oxygen will be.
Also the King of Bloatware, samsung already gets Androis 12.
And OnePlus release 9R or something...

They are starting the ultimate consolidation of Oxygen OS into Color OS. How is OnePlus going to manage all these phones? Do they even have enough staff to manage all these phones?

Unfortunately they only update bi-monthly.
I saw a user suggest on their official forums basically say "hey guys, how about monthly updates like your competition?" in a friendly way, and a mod basically said **** off and closed the thread. I wasn't impressed.
This was my first OnePlus device, maybe my last.
That 12 Beta debacle was ridiculous.

After having the 7, 8, & 9 Pro, I will be leaving the building as well!

Is this a joke? About month last update and now ppl are think this is over. How do u even can survive this life?

I like how people actually think theres a decent alternative to oneplus these days. At least not in the US. Maybe google if the pixel 6 is actually premium/flagship this time. Otherwise theres no other brand with an unlockable bootloader, which is how they get away with so much bloat. Personally im fine of oneplus becomes a little more like the others as long as the hardware is premium and the bootloader is unlockable.

9 Pro is my first and last phone from OP if they can't get they BS sorted out. The phone has horrible battery life, scrolling issues, and it doesn't get better with next updates. Also, wtf is that BS with the bi-monthly update scheudle? A device like this should be fixed ASAP, the users are experiencing problems and neet to wait, the hell is that policy? Would they wait 2 months to release an update if someone would find a security bug too? So stupid. Get your **** together OnePlus.