So I've had my kindle fire for a few months now, and have had Hellfire mod on it for almost as long. Lately some of the app including dolphin browse, pulse, and facebook have started to become sluggish and sometimes it even asks me if I want to kill the app because it has become nonresponsive. Then also the home screen will occasionally be laggy and slow. Is this something that can be fixed with dumping the cashe or...what?
You probably have apps/ads running in the background stealing resources. Run a system monitor to see what's draining your resources.
soupmagnet said:
You probably have apps/ads running in the background stealing resources. Run a system monitor to see what's draining your resources.
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Would that be something I download? Because I always kill apps when I'm done using them. And what do you mean ads running?
There are some free apps out there that make their money with ads and data mining. Some will auto start and run in the background even after being killed. Just search the play store for things like "system monitor", "resource monitor", "CPU monitor", "background processes" etc. You might be surprised at what you find running on your device.
I found Hellfire Rom to always a little drag through the homescreen. Hashcodes kernel with hwa on any ics rom has yet to lag. Its silky smooth. There is nothing keeping you from ICS not that hwa is working... well at least for me.
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Hi all,
This is my first post here.
I have flashed the InsertCoin stable ROM 03/06 and I have to say it's great (despite the video playback bug). Recently I found another issue that bothers me a lot.
The problem I found is that the ROM seems to be killing non-active apps too aggressively. I learnt if I press "home" button in an active app, it should stay for a while until it is killed to free up memory. However, in my phone, the non-active apps are always killed within one minute even when the phone isn't running out of memory. Why it is an issue to me? Because:
1) It is killing the browser too fast. Usually I switched to other app, do some work, and back to the browser. Since the browser is killed it has to reload the whole page to restore the state. This wastes time and data.
2) Most importantly It is killing my music app!! I tried fire up HTC's music app, select a song, tap to play, leave the app and do other things like web surfing. The music app would surely be killed in a minute. This happens to other music playing app like Winamp.
This makes my phone a relatively single tasking one. I didn't install any 3rd party task killer because I never needed one. But I cannot find any settings regarding this "feature" on my phone.
I found people in this forum seeking help on how to kill some background apps. What I want is the opposite: How to prevent some background apps to be killed.
Anyone here has similar problem and has found a solution?
Thanks in advance!
on 1.0.8 i had no problems
on v45 (which is last 2D Rose version) you need to flash pre46test.zip in order to fix agressive app killing.
other than that i never heard of any complaints regarding apps being killed too quickly.
Thanks, dzumagos. Yes I am running 1.0.8 and unfortunately this happens on my phone
Maybe I'll try flashing the nightly version (v51) to see if things improve.
Whatever you do, don't use task managers and other memory scripts. Every developer makes his own memory parameters which suit his rom the best, so I think you are best off pointing baadnwz to this issue and see what he says.
erklat said:
Whatever you do, don't use task managers and other memory scripts. Every developer makes his own memory parameters which suit his rom the best, so I think you are best off pointing baadnwz to this issue and see what he says.
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The ROM has HTC's ROM manager built in, and I didn't have any installed by myself. AFAIK the only difference between the Stable and Nightly version is the Rosie 3D homescreen that is missing in the Stable version, so I flashed 1.0.9 and unfortunately the problem persists.
And looks like I'm not eligible to ask on the development thread
A problem I always had with the Xperia S is that the whole thing feels extremely choppy and clunky. I have extremely low tolerance for choppyness, and this phone has always felt really clunky for me, it's hard to pretend the choppyness isn't there. There is nothing that makes me feel good about a device than silky smoothness, and even though the phone is still very fast and reactive, the slow framerate and microstutters are extremely noticeable, especially if you ever used a smooth device before (such as my good old Xperia Ray on gingerbread which was smooth like an iPhone, and when I upgraded it to ICS I couldn't stand it anymore because it became horrendously stuttery).
I was wondering, since Project Butter promises fully accelerated UI and elimination of the persistent lag that all android phones have, do you think this will finally resolve the slugginess of this phone's stock rom?
Is PB an OS features that all phones running JB have, or do the developers (in this case Sony's) have to implement it on their own?
Also, regarding the current stock ICS, there is nothing that helped with the constant lag and choppyness in the UI, the only thing that DOES make a difference is enabling "force GPU rendering", it's found under "developer options" and disabled by default. Once you enable it, scrolling lists (such as the settings menu) will become silky smooth (you have to go back to home and then back to settings menu to notice the difference). With this disabled, scrolling every list menu is embarassingly choppy. It doesn't cause any battery drain so I recommend everyone to enable it if you haven't already.
I seriously hope JB will resolve the constant choppyness of this phone's UI.
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A problem I always had with the Xperia S is that the whole thing feels extremely choppy and clunky. I have extremely low tolerance for choppyness, and this phone has always felt really clunky for me, it's hard to pretend the choppyness isn't there. There is nothing that makes me feel good about a device than silky smoothness, and even though the phone is still very fast and reactive, the slow framerate and microstutters are extremely noticeable, especially if you ever used a smooth device before (such as my good old Xperia Ray on gingerbread which was smooth like an iPhone, and when I upgraded it to ICS I couldn't stand it anymore because it became horrendously stuttery).
I was wondering, since Project Butter promises fully accelerated UI and elimination of the persistent lag that all android phones have, do you think this will finally resolve the slugginess of this phone's stock rom?
Is PB an OS features that all phones running JB have, or do the developers (in this case Sony's) have to implement it on their own?
Also, regarding the current stock ICS, there is nothing that helped with the constant lag and choppyness in the UI, the only thing that DOES make a difference is enabling "force GPU rendering", it's found under "developer options" and disabled by default. Once you enable it, scrolling lists (such as the settings menu) will become silky smooth (you have to go back to home and then back to settings menu to notice the difference). With this disabled, scrolling every list menu is embarassingly choppy. It doesn't cause any battery drain so I recommend everyone to enable it if you haven't already.
I seriously hope JB will resolve the constant choppyness of this phone's UI.
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If you're really curious you could flash the test version DoomlorD posted. There's also this video on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNLODO3YOnA
Looks like it is more fluent, as was expected, but ofcourse that's a nearly empty firmware. Some 3rd party apps can make your phone a lot slower, even when they're supposedly not running. A clean installation of ICS is also quite fluent compared to the lags I've had caused by some apps before I removed or restricted them.
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If you're really curious you could flash the test version DoomlorD posted. There's also this video on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNLODO3YOnA
Looks like it is more fluent, as was expected, but ofcourse that's a nearly empty firmware. Some 3rd party apps can make your phone a lot slower, even when they're supposedly not running. A clean installation of ICS is also quite fluent compared to the lags I've had caused by some apps before I removed or restricted them.
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I can't flash it because I'm not unlocking my BL. Also, which apps do you think are the most resource hungry? I already disabled facebook and all social network related stuff, most services like sony select, etc. No difference at all.
My Xperia S and my Nexus 4 feel as smooth as each other using go launcher and obviously one has project butter and one doesn't
A simple solution would be to set a background process limit to 3 or less (developer options-resets on reboot so take care of that)
Also decrease the transition and animation from 1 to .5(dev options again)
If u are rooted(which am expecting u are)
Use romtoolbox or any utility capable of profiling ur cpu...set two profiles..screen off->governer-ondemand-low frequency(will save battery)
And one as screen on->governer-performance-max frequency(reduce ur lag)
If u have too many apps..use greenify or some app with same functionality
These basic settings have kept my ion lagfree all the while
Sent from my Xperia ion
Hit a thanks when someone helps
for what it's worth, i just came to the xperia S from the original galaxy S. i was running JB on that, which has nowhere near the specs of the xperia S, and JB was smooth as silk there, so it does seem to make a noticeable difference. moreso on 4.2 than 4.1, however.
unfortunately i've been hit with the bootloader unlock = no , so the wait for jb again begins..
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I can't flash it because I'm not unlocking my BL. Also, which apps do you think are the most resource hungry? I already disabled facebook and all social network related stuff, most services like sony select, etc. No difference at all.
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That's why I posted the link to the Youtube video so you could get a glimpse that way .
I'd also disable Google+ and Google Talk if you're not using those. And some apps that you installed yourself from the Play Store can make your phone sluggish as well. I used Greenify to force my games and some apps to hibernate (Angry Birds, Dropbox, Google Drive etc), saved over 100mb in available memory. That has made my phone a lot less laggy. I usually don't encourage using app killers but Greenify is doing a good job with no errors for the past 3 days.
absolutely yes
jb leaked is the smoothest thing i have ever seen
I have the original KF and it's rooted to use CM10 rom. However, a lot of the apps are crashing / FCing frequently and I'm not sure if it's my KF dying or just the rom is too bloated. For example, when I use Chrome browser and use Tunein or Live365, the latter would crash a lot. Even in Chrome, the keyboard would sometime not respond or won't even display when I want to type something into the address bar. I tried Maxthon and it would complain about low memory even if it's the only app running.
I tried the following roms:
HellFire JB
CM10.1 / SGT7
SmoothRom (keep saying my apps can't be installed)
All of them are exhibiting the same problems. When I use EX Task Manager and close programs, only 150MB of memory is available afterward. So should I just give up and downgrade back to ICS?
Downgrade to ICS?...well if you hate having a somewhat decent battery life I would say that would be good lol. Seriously though....the issue with Chrome and the keyboard has been experienced by many users. In your process of wiping ROMs, have you ever wiped the SD card partition to clear everything out?
If you want more memory you might want to go back to GB because compared to JB and ICS, it is far more lightweight.
Yep. I did wipe the SD card and Android Secure last 2 times when I install the ROMs. I'll double check GB roms and see what are still available. There is really no point in battery life if the apps keep crashing, it's as good as a flash light at this point.
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it's as good as a flash light at this point.
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Best flashlight I ever saw! Lol.......by the way, how many apps do you actually have installed? Maybe tweaking the OOM settings would help?
In TWA_priv's ROM if you go to developer options and go top the bottom and find the apps section. Try unchecking kill background processes, and keep background activities set to 6. This MIGHT help, seemed to help with the chrome issue. That plus a full wipe
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From my own experience, I had an extremely laggy KF running cm10. I did a full wipe and am running twa's cm10.1 and its a world of a difference.
Here's what I did to help speed:
Full wipe (cache/dalvik/system)
Delete unused folders on sdcard
Flash twa_priv's cm10.1 & newest GApps
SetCPU to max OC
Install only necessary apps (I have ~60 apps total)
Keep as few apps open at a time
Both of the cm10.1 ROMS (twa's and hashcodes) are running very smoothly. Granted the KF is extremely limited by its RAM, try clean installing one of those ROMS and it may breathe new life into your KF! :good:
My question is why is it that Android phones slow down and become laggy once you install a lot of apps? It's annoying because I'm one that Installs a lot of apps on my phone. It's currently happening on sgh m919. It also was happening to my old RAZR Maxx HD.
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My question is why is it that Android phones slow down and become laggy once you install a lot of apps? It's annoying because I'm one that Installs a lot of apps on my phone. It's currently happening on sgh m919. It also was happening to my old RAZR Maxx HD.
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So does Iphone...And any other smart phone....So do computers....Its because you download so much crap and have so much crap running you fill up all your ram.
It matters greatly WHAT apps you download.
Properly designed apps that aren't invasive don't take up any RAM or other system resources (other than storage space) when not being actively used.
It's apps that are designed to run constantly and use up system resources with high priority that bog down the speed and make the rom sluggish. Sometimes that is done because the app developer doesn't know what he's doing. Sometimes it's by design because the app developer doesn't care how the side effects are and he just wants his app running all the time for various reasons. Some apps needs that, like a text messaging app that has to be ready to go the second a message comes in. Some apps don't need that kind of priority but are given it anyway.
You can even have well designed apps that are able to produce notifications that don't run at full speed in the background hogging up system resources.
It's having too many of those kinds of apps installed that cause you problems. Not apps in general.
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My question is why is it that Android phones slow down and become laggy once you install a lot of apps? It's annoying because I'm one that Installs a lot of apps on my phone. It's currently happening on sgh m919. It also was happening to my old RAZR Maxx HD.
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The thread about better battery life: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2357417 shows how to make apps better behaved.
Using Greenify and the other methods discussed will also make your phone less laggy, as well as saving battery. Almost all messaging apps, as well as Facebook, etc will really slow things down.
Rob
Hi guys,
Has anyone managed to properly run pokemon GO, and if so, what ROM are you using?
Curently I'm using the ZMOD 5.1.1 (Maguro) but whenever I try to sign in with my Google account, the app just closes.
regards
Yer I'm getting the same crash point, using a cm13 ROM.
Kinda doubt it will ever run on this phone, game requirements are asking for 2GB RAM.
I can run it with the CM13 ROM but my phone gets really hot and crashes/reboots after 5-10mins of playing
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67775708&postcount=4181
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@Ziyan
Who would've thought the mighty Gnex can run Pokemon Go?
Works fairly well considering it's using 300mb RAM ;P
Catching Pokemons is sometimes pretty laggy with the virtual reality mode turned on (using the camera), but with it turned off its fairly close to fluid
Thanks for your work again
PS: Might try CM13, as some more RAM might help performance
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I can run it with the CM13 ROM but my phone gets really hot and crashes/reboots after 5-10mins of playing
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It hot rebooted for me on CM12.1 once, when I opened it for the first time. But at that point the phone was up for a couple of days. Works fine on 12.1 when freshly booted.
Played for over an hour yesterday. No complaints.
Can't post any proof right now, as the servers are down again
Shine ROM 340 mb RAM
Try SHINE ROM
-Laggy but works out.
-I did´t installed gapps but i think they are in the ROM.
-And stop google automatic update.
-Download the APK 29.2
-You are rdy for you lag experience.
-First try to open arena didnt worked sorry boys.
Update to 4.3 will come out?
I have it running on Resurrection Remix ROM (marshmallow) (toroplus) but often crashes.
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It hot rebooted for me on CM12.1 once, when I opened it for the first time. But at that point the phone was up for a couple of days. Works fine on 12.1 when freshly booted.
Played for over an hour yesterday. No complaints.
Can't post any proof right now, as the servers are down again
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I swapped over to CM12.1 and it works way better. It still gets warm, but no where near as much as before. I can charge and play the game. I had the game running for about 3h ( about 1h of that being charging ) before it went to hot and force rebooted. I think that is more then okay as you rarely will have the app open with out breaks for that long. With closing the app every now and then ( just locking the screen) the game runs without an issue what so ever. I still get weird artifacting on the map for some reason and it has hick ups every now and then, but tbh it just seems to be the game in a lot of the cases. So I think 12.1 CM is certainly the way to go with this one.
I'm using Ziyan CyanogenMod 13.0 (07/06) and it is so laggy it is unplayable, even when scrolling in the pokemon list or in menus,
sometimes it gets more fluid in map mode, but that doesn't last for long, also quite often it hangs totally or reboots the whole phone.
Why is that? Ingress works so well...
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I'm using Ziyan CyanogenMod 13.0 (07/06) and it is so laggy it is unplayable, even when scrolling in the pokemon list or in menus,
sometimes it gets more fluid in map mode, but that doesn't last for long, also quite often it hangs totally or reboots the whole phone.
Why is that? Ingress works so well...
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Pokémon go is a lot heavier than Ingress.
Scrolling in menus is also rather slow for me, but it works.
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Pokémon go is a lot heavier than Ingress.
Scrolling in menus is also rather slow for me, but it works.
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I think I've found out why: my phone without opening any app, just right after boot has about 755-770MB of RAM used out of 970,
apparently Pokèmon go manages to use up to 500+MB of RAM, so that is the main problem, there's not enough free memory so the phone first starts swapping and then freezes when it can't keep up.
There should be some major flaw in the Pokémon Go up to be such a memory hog.
Out of curiosity how much free RAM do you guys have on a freshly booted GNEX with CM12 and CM 13?
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I think I've found out why: my phone without opening any app, just right after boot has about 755-770MB of RAM used out of 970,
apparently Pokèmon go manages to use up to 500+MB of RAM, so that is the main problem, there's not enough free memory so the phone first starts swapping and then freezes when it can't keep up.
There should be some major flaw in the Pokémon Go up to be such a memory hog.
Out of curiosity how much free RAM do you guys have on a freshly booted GNEX with CM12 and CM 13?
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The Gnex is handed down in the family, so I cannot check right now, but you could prevent a lot of your apps from starting at boot in settings.
Are you using the official Facebook apps? They are horrible memory wise.
No I'm not using any facebook app since I know how much they suck. I only use Swipe and I've disabled all the apps that don't need to start at boot time.
Fact is that just looking at the memory stats for the last 3h it says that 304MB are used by Android OS, 91MB by Google Play Services, 88MB by Android System, 66MB by System UI, 37 by messaging system, 26 by Trebuchet, 14 by Android Keyboard, 9.2MB by Google Play Music and so on. Those are already whoopping 635.2MB used by very basic and needed system apps.
Now the system seems to have stabilized after a while using about 722MB out of 970, but it is still too much IMHO considering I have really few apps open and beside the not mentioned Line app (since it's not fundamental) that uses 31MB all the rest are small things...
Just realised the app was crashing for me because I set a limit on background apps. #derp
As many of you said, the game is Starting and running quite well on CM12.1.
But there are other things to consider. In my case, my main problem is that, with these overloaded servers, if you don't have a reliable and fast network the game won't log in. So if the game stops (very usual) and you have to restart it without wifi, sometimes it's impossible. For example, connected to wifi the game starts almost 90% of the time, but when you get out in the wild you can find it hard to reconnect.
The navigation throught menus and items it's also difficult, and battling in a gym is complicated...
I guess the main problem will always be available ram memory...
Just signed up to say that CM 12.1 works better than CM 11.
With CM 12.1 there is some lag and draw flickering. With CM 11 the game would crash a lot and the player would stand in place and only rotate.
This will suffice until my 6P arrives on Wednesday.
This patch can help us? http://opengapps.org/blog/post/2016/07/11/update-and-pokemon-go-apk/
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This patch can help us? http://opengapps.org/blog/post/2016/07/11/update-and-pokemon-go-apk/
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That's not a patch, is the apk file for those who can't download the game on the Play Store if the game is not available in their own region.
I have pokego running on gnex using latest zinjin cyanogenmod (5.1) and it works rather well. Anyways, it's the only app running - i made the phone dedicated pokemon machine
I'm using the OMAP4 AOSP Project and it runs. Performance is ok on the main map screen, but as soon as you enter a catch event or a gym battle, there is stutter all over the place. It's also very hard to navigate menus as the frame rate is really low.