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My Experiences with the Epic 4G Touch

It seems in life people rarely post anything good about a product that works for them, but if it's flawed enough to anger them you can bet there will be posts from every person that has experienced one. This is why I am making this post. Unlike some of my fellow E.T, owners I haven't experienced any negative issues with this phone that I could actually say were the phone's fault.
L.O.S - The only LOS issues I have had or continue to have is the same LOS issue My Evo 4g had, My wife's Evo Shift has. It is at the same location between my home and work. So I attribute this to a network issue not the phones.
Wifi signal - I will admit that the BARS on my ET do show lower than the Bars on my Evo 4g or my wife's Evo Shift, but it gets signal in places in my house that neither of those devices ever get signal and it does it while showing zero bars. It also gets faster speeds on the same network.
Battery life - I don't use my phone any differently than I did with my Evo 4g. With my Evo, by noon I was reaching for a charger or a spare battery with the ET I haven't been below 48% when leaving work. I have played around on it and got it down to the low 20's though but that is later in the evening. I am averaging 12 hours on battery with heavy use before plugging it in at night. It is my work phone so battery life was the biggest selling point for me and it paid off. I average 50+ voice calls a day that range in time from 3 minutes to close to an hour. I receive and respond to 15+ emails a day and send about 20 texts a day. I read the news for about 20 minutes on it in the morning and check FB about 3 times a day for 10 minutes each time. I don't watch movies on it but do occasionally watch a video someone posts on FB. I listen to Audible about 3 hours a day, which isn't streaming it's just playing the files on the phone. I rarely stream and when I do the phone is plugged in to the car and I am on a road trip.
4G - I have left the 4g radio on all day and only saw about 10% more battery consumption over leaving it off. I have 4g at work and most the way home, but not at my house. My Evo 4g would have been dead in about 1 hr if I left it on without being plugged in. I have noticed the 4g radio does sleep, not sure if it does on the Evo 4g. From my usage you can see 4g isn't that important to me.
Waking up - As far as the slight delay when waking the phone. It doesn't bother me because it doesn't interfere with the function of the phone. With the Evo 4g I had at least 3 sense crashes a day where I waited longer for sense to reload. So I figure if I add up all the 1 second pauses to wake this phone up it's still less than the total time waiting for crashed sense to reload 3 times a day.
This thing is blazing fast and has a beautiful screen. I am very happy with this upgrade.
I did however have one issue that I was able to trace back to an app or at least once that app was removed the issue went away. On my Evo 4g which never had great battery life, I had used the Xscope browser and loved it's usefulness and functionality, however at about day 3 of app installs, I only install 3 apps a day in case there is an issue I know which to look at 1st, I began to see a sever battery drain. I went from getting 12+ hours a day to getting less than 8 hrs a day. So I removed the 3 apps and behold the battery drain was gone. Xscope was my favorite of the 3 apps so it went back on 1st and bam battery drain was back. So I removed it and placed the other 2 apps, Flixster and Audible, and didn't see the drain return. Not wanting to place blame or start a flame war with fans of Xscope so I am just reporting that some of your issues may be caused by Apps you have installed. I know I have friends that dump 50+ apps on a phone the day they get it and don't configure anything. Then ***** that they are having issues like battery drain or slow internet when in fact it's a misbehaving app not the phone.
These are just my experiences and are not to be taken as Gospel.

Great post. I feel pretty much the same as you about this phone. Sure it has some annoying bugs, but overall it just rocks. You can't even make this bad boy stutter.

Nannuq said:
It seems in life people rarely post anything good about a product that works for them, but if it's flawed enough to anger them you can bet there will be posts from every person that has experienced one. This is why I am making this post. Unlike some of my fellow E.T, owners I haven't experienced any negative issues with this phone that I could actually say were the phone's fault. .......
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Thanks for taking the time to write this. I've been fence sitting since June (when I was upgrade eligible) to make an informed decision on an upgrade. With Sprint snatching the Sprint Premiere Gold at the end of the year, I am really on the prowl to upgrade to a device that has a solid root (without issues), a dependable phone for work (it's vital that it just work), and it be that exponential leap over my aging Evo 4G. I was pretty sure this phone would be my landing pad but was scared off by all the LOS complaints and people giving different information on whether it was kernel (root) or factory radio problems. Will continue to watch the developments here (I'm in this thread everyday) and see what is on the horizon for Sprint. My Evo actually fills the bill except for the horrid battery life that chains me to a charger or USB cable so I have a few months to decide. Throw in the impending Sprint LTE revelations and LTE enabled devices allegedly coming this summer and now another quandary pops up. My next will be my next for two years so I gotta think it through. Again thank you for your constructive input.

Hey Nannuq...well said! Welcome to the E.T. sub forum!

Very informative post. I really appreciate your insight.
Dave

I have had this phone since launch and I'm completely one hundred percent satisfied. I've had the hero evo 4g, evo shift, evo 3d, and now this phone, and I have never been as satisfied with a android device as I have with this one. Performance,Battery life, call sound quality, reception, ect has honestly been amazing. I used to change devices every six months but I don't see the need with this phone and I don't think I will ever buy another HTC device after using this phone.
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100% agree! This phone amazes me everyday. I was always a HTC fan, owing the original EVO, then the 3D, and even talked my daughter into getting the Shift over the Epic 4G. I honestly can say that I don't miss HTC at all, nor do I miss Sense 1 bit either. Samsung and Sprint did a great job on this phone. My signal blows the 3D away. In areas where I would be roaming with the 3D, the EpTouch handles without a hiccup. Wifi might show less bars, but then again, it still pulls faster speeds than my 3D did. I will definitely be very satisfied with this phone till the SIII comes out next year!

I love the phone but the wifi issue is incorrect. I have my router downstairs and frequently drop the connection whereas every other device (laptop, phone, ps3) has as great signal even outside. I think it may be the driver i'm looking into it
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No faults whatsoever!!!

Hello everyone I havent posted for quite a while.
I recently bought a HTC ONE X white serial number HT23SW.
simfree. network O2
When I first turned it on it immediately powered down since there was only 3 % battery charge. I plugged it into a power source then powered it back on.
Connected it to my wifi n router 5 GHz (I've renamed both my 802.11n SSID channels with the suffix 2.4 and 5.0 GHz respectively)
It then prompted me again that a 33MB software update was available.software 1.28.161.9
I charged from 3 percent to 60 percent then applied update.
Inital impressions ..... I had my phone plugged in for the majority of the day even though it had 85 percent charge I do beleive there is an eeprom which contains battery calibration data. Now my battery life is stellar.
No problems whatsoever after the 8th day. This phone is a beauty! ( I hope I am not speaking to soon)

If you have the time please post some screenshots of especially screentime. But also the total hours and other details would be cool. I would love to see a 4 to 5 hours screentime.
Cheers

Have you tested the GPS's ability to make an accurate track with an app like RunKeeper or My Tracks?
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ikeabuchi said:
Hello everyone I havent posted for quite a while.
I recently bought a HTC ONE X white serial number HT23SW.
simfree.
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Mine is grey one x also serial HT23SW which i got on uk launch day 5 april, apart from initial poor battery which seems to be steadily improving with use and ota updates, none of the major issues others are complaining about. Maybe this is a particularly good build batch?
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

I also have a flawless grey HT23SW HTC One X

I thought mine is flawless as well until I saw how ridiculous GPS behavior is. On Google maps my position is just floating all over the screen...

Had no problems with mine everything working great battery life took a while to pick up but seems to be going quite well at the moment very happy with my device

I hAve a white one which so far has no issues.great gps,screen, sound and Bluetooth.battery life seems on the up as well.
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Yes I will post the battery statistics. If I remember correctly I had over 5 hour screen time and 33 percent battery left.
What was quite strange is that I left my phone at 89 perecent a couple of nights ago and woke up the next morning and stranglely It was still at 89 percent. This must be where the companian core comes into play with negligible quietscent current drain.
I have used the stock maps programs to check the gps hardware and it locked onto the satellites in under 20 seconds maybe earlier, The program mentioned that the accuracy is within 20 meters but what I could tell it was accurate within a meter (I checked the accuracy at each junction/intersection I came to)
so yes it working flawlessly. I played teeter (level 21) and checked the gyro no problem there. I am really impressed with the wifi n 5GHz browsing speed (unsure whether it is dual band) but it like its on steroid faster than my i7!! laptop in some instances. no over heating when playing soul craft THD.

monkeytennis said:
I hAve a white one which so far has no issues.great gps,screen, sound and Bluetooth.battery life seems on the up as well.
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ikeabuchi said:
I have used the stock maps programs to check the gps hardware and it locked onto the satellites in under 20 seconds maybe earlier, The program mentioned that the accuracy is within 20 meters but what I could tell it was accurate within a meter (I checked the accuracy at each junction/intersection I came to)
so yes it working flawlessly.
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I'm not sure your testing method is sufficient to declare the GPS as flawless. You just sort of spot checked.
Would you mind downloading the free app called Run Keeper and using it to record yourself walking around the block or something similar?
Check out the consistent results I get doing that. For any kind of tracking app, the GPS in my HOX is just about useless. A half mile walk records as three miles with a walking speed of 2 minutes per mile. Not even olympic athletes can walk that fast! LOL
For perspective, I walked a straight line down the sidewalk from where the pin to where the 2 mile flag is. Everything else is just BAD data.

in relationship to the testing of the gps I didn't do a spot check. I did a dynamic test at full zoom and the result that the arrow was moving smoothly at the correct speed. . I will down load this program today and post a screen shot

distortedloop said:
I'm not sure your testing method is sufficient to declare the GPS as flawless. You just sort of spot checked.
Would you mind downloading the free app called Run Keeper and using it to record yourself walking around the block or something similar?
Check out the consistent results I get doing that. For any kind of tracking app, the GPS in my HOX is just about useless. A half mile walk records as three miles with a walking speed of 2 minutes per mile. Not even olympic athletes can walk that fast! LOL
For perspective, I walked a straight line down the sidewalk from where the pin to where the 2 mile flag is. Everything else is just BAD data.
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I use Endomondo to track my runs and it is prettty much perfect. Have also used the sat nav for around an hour and found it to be spot on.

Had no problems after 1 week but then started noticing a screen flex and back light bleeding. Gl for now guys
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA

No screen flex.light leakage or flickering, Bluetooth A2DP works fine with my SONY DR-BT216.
tested the Near field communication and that works. oh I forgot the compass works perfectly it didnt on my htc desire.
Btw my phone is unrooted. My friend at work also has the same model with same serial prefix. he had it 6 weeks. and he also has no problems also. I just cant understand why people have so many problems.

I haven't found the plethora of "GPS Sucks" threads that we used to see on early Samsung phones like the SGS and Fascinate, but there are enough random comments in the forms about GPS flakiness to show it's not just me. Someone else mentioned issues in this very thread. Perhaps we're just a few unlucky folks with bad hardware.
ikeabuchi said:
in relationship to the testing of the gps I didn't do a spot check. I did a dynamic test at full zoom and the result that the arrow was moving smoothly at the correct speed. . I will down load this program today and post a screen shot
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Sorry, I misunderstood how you tested. Read it as you just checked your location when you reached intersections.
I'll appreciate your efforts to post a track!
monkeytennis said:
I use Endomondo to track my runs and it is prettty much perfect. Have also used the sat nav for around an hour and found it to be spot on.
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I also tested with Endomondo Pro. Actually, it was Endomondo that made me first notice the error; Runkeeper was the "second opinion."
Here's a track made with the HOX of the same walk going the other way.

c4llum said:
Mine is grey one x also serial HT23SW which i got on uk launch day 5 april, apart from initial poor battery which seems to be steadily improving with use and ota updates, none of the major issues others are complaining about. Maybe this is a particularly good build batch?
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Same for me. The phones f'ing brilliant

I find AGPS is pretty bad and floats (even after clearing agps etc in gps test) but GPS only is awesome.

animaleyes76 said:
I find AGPS is pretty bad and floats (even after clearing agps etc in gps test) but GPS only is awesome.
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Don't really understand what you mean. Do you mean turning off all location service setting except standalone GPS?
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Even my GPS seems to accurate
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I bought a HOX (grey, HT23RW, made in Taiwan) from Polish Orange a few days ago and I have no issues too. It looks like this is a perfect build batch.

worry about battery :(

Hi,the ho is one of my favourites phones,but the integrated battery is the worst choise that HTC could do
now i Have an HD2,and with my daily use it survive only 10/13 hours
I want that my net phone survive at least 18 hours with these use:
-brightness 30% or auto
-wifi on at least 6/7 hours
-skype (only chat)
-gmail
-facebook messanger
-80 sms
-10 minutes of call
-2 hours of internet (also with 3G)
-30 minutes of games
The hox can survive 18 hours with my use?

i am also worried about the battery life. i am planning to buy HOX. what issues i should be aware of? mainly i am talking abt hardware issues. before buying the phone i wanna make sure evrything is alright.
my biggest concern is the battery life. i need my one x to survive 13 hours with the below usage:
3hrs of music. ( with screen off )
1hr of games ( mainly simple games like fruit ninja or temple run)
20mins of wifi ( thats very rare. not everyday)
30mins of voice calls over 2g and 6-7 sms.
1hour of movie.( thats also a rare case)
if i unplug the charger at 8:00 a.m how much will i have at 10:00 p.m will the HOX be able to survive it?

mohaimed said:
i am also worried about the battery life. i am planning to buy HOX. what issues i should be aware of? mainly i am talking abt hardware issues. before buying the phone i wanna make sure evrything is alright.
my biggest concern is the battery life. i need my one x to survive 13 hours with the below usage:
3hrs of music. ( with screen off )
1hr of games ( mainly simple games like fruit ninja or temple run)
20mins of wifi ( thats very rare. not everyday)
30mins of voice calls over 2g and 6-7 sms.
1hour of movie.( thats also a rare case)
if i unplug the charger at 8:00 a.m how much will i have at 10:00 p.m will the HOX be able to survive it?
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With this above usage you need you probably will have 20-30% left (maybe more, depends do you use stock or custom ROM, s tock or custom kernel)

mohaimed said:
i am also worried about the battery life. i am planning to buy HOX. what issues i should be aware of? mainly i am talking abt hardware issues. before buying the phone i wanna make sure evrything is alright.
my biggest concern is the battery life. i need my one x to survive 13 hours with the below usage:
3hrs of music. ( with screen off )
1hr of games ( mainly simple games like fruit ninja or temple run)
20mins of wifi ( thats very rare. not everyday)
30mins of voice calls over 2g and 6-7 sms.
1hour of movie.( thats also a rare case)
if i unplug the charger at 8:00 a.m how much will i have at 10:00 p.m will the HOX be able to survive it?
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At this rate you will surely survive. Although custom roms will male sure you do with that usage. Dimmed autobrightness and great governing kernels surely made mine last a day and a half. Gpu intensive games will surely drain it within a few hours though.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

yes i am into custom roms and kernels. i love to do all stuffs. games mainly i will play stick cricket or temple run. maybe when i will play games like ashphalt or gta 3 i will cut down on other usage. maybe wont watch a movie.
but before buying it. how shud i check it on the store?

mohaimed said:
yes i am into custom roms and kernels. i love to do all stuffs. games mainly i will play stick cricket or temple run. maybe when i will play games like ashphalt or gta 3 i will cut down on other usage. maybe wont watch a movie.
but before buying it. how shud i check it on the store?
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Be a little more specific. Which are you trying to check out? Hardware?
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both hardware and software. i suppose all software problems are solve. i cant exchange it or replace it once i buy it. remember that.

with my use i don't survive for 18 with a custom rom?

First check the screen by putting pressure, usually it's on the left side. You'll notice there'll be some rainbow effects, youtube that.
Second, dead pixels. Find an app with movable with background.(how i got mine replaced).
Lastly and moat crutially, update ota once, should take you to 1.27 or 1.28 base, the defect here is that the lcd from unboxing will work fine. After the ota or even flashing. Part of your screen will literally be unresponsive. Usually that is at the bottom part where you press the "done" or "okay" or your app drawer/dock. Sometimes it's on the top.
Pray your country has an HTC service center man. I travelled a few days to get mine replaced
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OMG!!!! i dont even check this much before buying a second-hand phone. crap man. i cant do all these in the shop at most i can check the hardware stuffs. but what if it gives the issues after OTA update. i definitely have a service centre. but they will charge me offcourse. i heard the latest realeses are bug free. the SH 25 version (not sure abt the version number).
i am losing hope to buy the one x man.

A faulty one x is deserves a replacement. Tell your SC that it's defective and you shouldnt be charged if it is still on warranty
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is it fair that we talk about fixing the phone. y will it be defected in the first place? Y. my question to HTC. people buy phones with a lot of money. they spend month trying to figure out which one they like more. and after that they spend months in getting the fault free phone and replacing the faulty one. ( like the HOX). its really frustrating. oe or two is okay. but i have seen almost 80 percent replacing their HOX because they got a faulty one. this is not fair. i want a fault free one at my first pick? but the probability is 50-50? this is sick. i never had to check this much for a third-hand phone that i have to do to get a brand new HOX.

mohaimed said:
is it fair that we talk about fixing the phone. y will it be defected in the first place? Y. my question to HTC. people buy phones with a lot of money. they spend month trying to figure out which one they like more. and after that they spend months in getting the fault free phone and replacing the faulty one. ( like the HOX). its really frustrating. oe or two is okay. but i have seen almost 80 percent replacing their HOX because they got a faulty one. this is not fair. i want a fault free one at my first pick? but the probability is 50-50? this is sick. i never had to check this much for a third-hand phone that i have to do to get a brand new HOX.
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80% ? 50:50 ? Watch the results of this polls: THIS and THIS ... and if you know that there are much more voting with a faulty one (people with defects will search for the defect and vote) i dont know how you come to that numbers

May my screenshot will help you solving your battery worries.
I didn't turn off wlan. Calls about 45min.
Auto mail refresh (3 accounts). 30min of gaming. about 2h browsing the web..
I use Franco R10 Kernel and Domination mod.
Cheers
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[Q] Hows the Battery Life?

Hi everyone.. im currently using ATT s3 and get onscreen time of max 4hrs on wifi and 2hours-ish on 4g. Im thinking of switching to note 2. hows the battery life on the phone considering the 3100 mA battery
thanks

Lots of threads on it, but here is mine from yesterday:
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I can get about 2 days off a charge.
Min talk. I don't talk alot
Excessive txt
Excessive web
Min streaming
I use wifi where avaliable
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moinsheriff said:
Hi everyone.. im currently using ATT s3 and get onscreen time of max 4hrs on wifi and 2hours-ish on 4g. Im thinking of switching to note 2. hows the battery life on the phone considering the 3100 mA battery
thanks
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Excellent! with heavy use of ~ 200 emails a day 1h on internet and about 30min looking up news and 1-2h of calls i get 12-16h.

I tried the best I knew how and I couldnt kill the battery for 2 days. I ran everything at once (not truly everything) and it just wouldn't die.
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Battery is ridiculous. After diagnosing my wifi wakelock issue and installing jedi rom I get 4 hoursish per 1% when it goes into sleep, and that's in a basement mostly with horrible reception.

im getting worse battery life ever since the multiwindow update. not sure if anyone else has the same issue, but it seems like tmobile users are complaining about the same thing. it might be due to lack of battery calibration.

Well, here's a visual. Just achieved this impressive feat. 81 HOURS on pure battery! Almost 3.5 hours of screen-on time. I choose to not utilize my phone much over the holiday weekend, so that explains the low screen-on time. Regardless, I think these results are more than impressive. Nothing was restricted on my device. Live wallpaper going the whole time, auto screen brightness (usually a high setting), WiFi going, auto-syncing from emails to Facebook to Twitter, watched a bit of "The Dark Knight Rises" in full-1080p HD, made a bunch of miscellaneous phone calls. I am more than amazed at this phone and its battery. Haven't seen anything close to this in more than five years or so. These results are after updating to 4.1.2 with multi-window, and these are the best results I've ever gotten on this device.
On a side note, if anyone is getting results like the first poster with 8+ hours of screen-on time, it would really help if you described what you typically do with your phone and what you may have done to your phone. Just posting a screenshot tells nothing. You could be web browsing all day with your screen set to 20% brightness, and nothing more. What are you doing? Watching movies? Listening to music? Emailing? Texting? And if you're rooted that makes a ton of difference, so the results wouldn't be exactly truthful or accurate I should say.

Dr. Evo said:
Well, here's a visual. Just achieved this impressive feat. 81 HOURS on pure battery! Almost 3.5 hours of screen-on time. I choose to not utilize my phone much over the holiday weekend, so that explains the low screen-on time. Regardless, I think these results are more than impressive. Nothing was restricted on my device. Live wallpaper going the whole time, auto screen brightness (usually a high setting), WiFi going, auto-syncing from emails to Facebook to Twitter, watched a bit of "The Dark Knight Rises" in full-1080p HD, made a bunch of miscellaneous phone calls. I am more than amazed at this phone and its battery. Haven't seen anything close to this in more than five years or so. These results are after updating to 4.1.2 with multi-window, and these are the best results I've ever gotten on this device.
On a side note, if anyone is getting results like the first poster with 8+ hours of screen-on time, it would really help if you described what you typically do with your phone and what you may have done to your phone. Just posting a screenshot tells nothing. You could be web browsing all day with your screen set to 20% brightness, and nothing more. What are you doing? Watching movies? Listening to music? Emailing? Texting? And if you're rooted that makes a ton of difference, so the results wouldn't be exactly truthful or accurate I should say.
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Sorry for the lack of detail, I should have included that. I was browsing the net on wifi, playing Words, emailing/texting, various phone calls, watching youtube videos, and spending time on the XDA app. (of course)
I'm rooted and using clean rom 3.5. Auto brightness is on and I'm about 50% on the slider.
Here is where I sit today: (not much youtube though)
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^^^ Thanks. So, that does change things, since you're rooted. The reason why I'm making a big deal about it, is because your results (and anyone else rooted) aren't typical results of someone stock. So a person not knowing any better would assuming they'd get your battery results from stock.

How is that possible? I use my note for about 5hrs of screen time and it's at like 3%. I am on an international rom and I undervolted along with perseus 1.8ghz kernel. Even when I did not have perse us, I never got above 6hrs? What settings do you use? I'm on wifi all day with the brightness All the way down. Please let me know! I really want to get that 8hrs of screen on time!
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How is that possible? I use my note for about 5hrs of screen time and it's at like 3%. I am on an international rom and I undervolted along with perseus 1.8ghz kernel. Even when I did not have perse us, I never got above 6hrs? What settings do you use? I'm on wifi all day with the brightness All the way down. Please let me know! I really want to get that 8hrs of screen on time!
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Clean Rom 3.5, I also make sure and close out of anything I'm not using. I also use the ES Task Manager widget to clear my ram before I power down for any period of time.
That's about it, besides not having a ton of widgets running.
I didn't get much over six hours of screen time with my Jedi Rom, but in fairness to it, it was my first rom and I don't think I did it quite right, installing other things with it that probably weren't compatible.
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^^^ Thanks. So, that does change things, since you're rooted. The reason why I'm making a big deal about it, is because your results (and anyone else rooted) aren't typical results of someone stock. So a person not knowing any better would assuming they'd get your battery results from stock.
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Like Dr. Evo points out, one of the great things about custom roms is they get rid of all the bloatware from ATT and other carriers. Stock I was lucky to have 1gb of free ram at any time, now I'm always around 1.1-1.2gb free without much effort on my part.
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Suggestions in buying this phone

Hello guys, I am really interested in buying this phone and I don't want to make a mistake, as this maybe will be my phone for the next 2-3 years, maybe more.I want to know your opinions, does this phone worth to buy? Does it have that annoying bloatware that slows the phone alot(I have a s3 now and I know what I am talking ) and in everyday usage does it work smooth, how is the multitasking and the battery in normal usage (fb, calls etc)?
Also I am between this and the LG G3, I can see a lot of negative thoughts about M8 camera quality,is this true?
Thanks in advance and hope we'll meet in this forum shortly

1) What bloatware the phone has, depends on what variant you buy. But I think the Euro version are pretty clean (at least compared to some of the bloat-ridden US versions). In any case, the phone is very smooth and fast. Some folks complain about lag on Lollipop (known issue on LP in general) but I don't see it. In any case, the phone is not plagued by OS lag like the Samsung GS5 and tablets.
2) Most folks that complain about the camera don't know anything about taking pictures, and are just looking at the MP number, not the actual image quality. M8 camera loses some detail in daylight. But probably only important if blowing up or cropping the photos. The camera excels most other smartphones (at least for its "generation") in low light. Which is particularly important if you take a lot of pics indoors.
There are some other opinion on the following thread, that includes one guy that is considering ditching the LG G3 for the M8: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/wrong-t3069102

redpoint73 said:
1) What bloatware the phone has, depends on what variant you buy. But I think the Euro version are pretty clean (at least compared to some of the bloat-ridden US versions). In any case, the phone is very smooth and fast. Some folks complain about lag on Lollipop (known issue on LP in general) but I don't see it. In any case, the phone is not plagued by OS lag like the Samsung GS5 and tablets.
2) Most folks that complain about the camera don't know anything about taking pictures, and are just looking at the MP number, not the actual image quality. M8 camera loses some detail in daylight. But probably only important if blowing up or cropping the photos. The camera excels most other smartphones (at least for its "generation") in low light. Which is particularly important if you take a lot of pics indoors.
There are some other opinion on the following thread, that includes one guy that is considering ditching the LG G3 for the M8: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/wrong-t3069102
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Thanks for the answer my friend, but how is the battery, how much SOT did you get after a day of moderate work?

gabyif said:
Thanks for the answer my friend, but how is the battery, how much SOT did you get after a day of moderate work?
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I get around 6-7 hours of screen on time with 4g/3g and 1 hour of gaming. I can't finish the battery in a day on normal use. I don't have the time. Refer to this post and thread for screen shots. I don't run with gps or location on when not needed or auto sync.
Most bloatware from carrier I could uninstall (I'm on vodafone, not sure about orange or telekom) and bloat from HTC (useful stuff but if don't need it is bloatware) like kid mode, dot view mode and such can't be uninstalled. Stock Sense is fast, the fastest I ever seen on android and the speakers will blow you away first time you hear them
Rooting and flashing roms is easy and you don't need S-OFF for that but make sure you do a nandroid on your stock so you can revert and take the otas when needed.

gabyif said:
Thanks for the answer my friend, but how is the battery, how much SOT did you get after a day of moderate work?
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The above response from TempesZ is better than I can give on this; as I'll have to admit I'm personally not a heavy user on the phone most days (on work computer all day, than mostly use my tablet at home in the evenings). But with light usage, I can get up to 48 hours on a single charge. If my kid uses the phone to watch movies or play games for a couple hours, I can still easily make it through the day with some charge left by the time I put it on the charger before bed.

TempestZ said:
I get around 6-7 hours of screen on time with 4g/3g and 1 hour of gaming. I can't finish the battery in a day on normal use. I don't have the time. Refer to this post and thread for screen shots. I don't run with gps or location on when not needed or auto sync.
Most bloatware from carrier I could uninstall (I'm on vodafone, not sure about orange or telekom) and bloat from HTC (useful stuff but if don't need it is bloatware) like kid mode, dot view mode and such can't be uninstalled. Stock Sense is fast, the fastest I ever seen on android and the speakers will blow you away first time you hear them
Rooting and flashing roms is easy and you don't need S-OFF for that but make sure you do a nandroid on your stock so you can revert and take the otas when needed.
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Thank you for your answers guys, I think I just changed my mind .BTW...does it heat more than normal?
redpoint73 said:
The above response from TempesZ is better than I can give on this; as I'll have to admit I'm personally not a heavy user on the phone most days (on work computer all day, than mostly use my tablet at home in the evenings). But with light usage, I can get up to 48 hours on a single charge. If my kid uses the phone to watch movies or play games for a couple hours, I can still easily make it through the day with some charge left by the time I put it on the charger before bed.
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gabyif said:
Thank you for your answers guys, I think I just changed my mind .BTW...does it heat more than normal?
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Nope.

gabyif said:
Thank you for your answers guys, I think I just changed my mind .BTW...does it heat more than normal?
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if you want a phone to put in your pocket to keep things warm in those cold winter days, then buy an M9 http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-m9-overheating-594799/

Here's a whole thread of photo samples, if you want to see what the M8 is capable of: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2694621
Seanie280672 said:
if you want a phone to put in your pocket to keep things warm in those cold winter days, then buy an M9 http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-m9-overheating-594799/
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It looks to me like HTC tried to cheat on benchmarks (by turning off the thermal throttling) and it backfired! And most of the smartphone manufacturers do cheat on these.

Seanie280672 said:
if you want a phone to put in your pocket to keep things warm in those cold winter days, then buy an M9 http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-m9-overheating-594799/
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Nice one mate )

TempestZ said:
I get around 6-7 hours of screen on time with 4g/3g and 1 hour of gaming. I can't finish the battery in a day on normal use. I don't have the time. Refer to this post and thread for screen shots. I don't run with gps or location on when not needed or auto sync.
Most bloatware from carrier I could uninstall (I'm on vodafone, not sure about orange or telekom) and bloat from HTC (useful stuff but if don't need it is bloatware) like kid mode, dot view mode and such can't be uninstalled. Stock Sense is fast, the fastest I ever seen on android and the speakers will blow you away first time you hear them
Rooting and flashing roms is easy and you don't need S-OFF for that but make sure you do a nandroid on your stock so you can revert and take the otas when needed.
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How do you manage to get such good battery life? I get 5.5 hours of screen time at best. That may be due to me having horrible service in my area. Still running stock Lollipop.

dima470 said:
How do you manage to get such good battery life? I get 5.5 hours of screen time at best. That may be due to me having horrible service in my area. Still running stock Lollipop.
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Depends what you are doing with your phone. 7 hours I hit in wifi and without using chrome too much (read hours) and instead relying on things like tapatalk and apps and no games. I am using Maximus HD with stock kernel. I have good signal (always 100%) and brightness usually is low enough and at night is at 0. I can tell you brightness makes a massive difference. I don't use auto brightness but manual and never use gps and location unless I need it. For example if I browse XDA through the xda developers app I get around 11-12% per hour drain on wifi and around 15% on 4g. (check picture, 20 min screen, 4% drain)
Keeping wakelocks to a minimum helps a lot to conserve that extra juice for your screen time. I use my android tools to disable wakelocks and greenify on stuff like facebook. No auto sync either since that would be only my mail and I don't need sync for that.
If I game and have WiFi on I usually hit 6 hours with 1 hour of games or so and that's my average sot.
I don't use Google apps except Google newsstand that syncs only when I want to read it and Google play services which is mandatory. No Google+, no maps (I use waze), no gmail ( ok maybe I use inbox with no auto sync). In Google settings I disabled location history and of course I don't use Google now (another useless drain) though you might use it.
I don't use blinkfeed, I use nova launcher.
Oh and power saver kicks in at 15% and it helps for the last hour or more. It reduces your CPU from 2.3 to 1.2 ghz but I think it's worth the performance impact at that point. 5% is extreme saver time but I never let it go that low on purpose
Check Darth's thread for tips.