Weird battery charging behaviour - HTC One X

Hi all,
My One X charges strangly I think. It charges really fast from about 80% give or take. It should charge slowly (given the nature of the battery). When it says the battery is charged, I unplug the device and within 15 minutes or so the battery is already at 90%. I have a feeling that the device somehow think the battery is fully charged while it is not really the case. Could this be resolved by doing a factory reset so that the battery stats will be removed? Or should I seek some other solution for it?
I'm currently on stock 1.28.xxx.x, the same problem occured at 1.26.xxx.x.
In the attachment I made a sketch of the behaviour of the charging
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Same here. Tried the factory reset after the 1.28 OTA, but am still getting the same pattern.
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Someone said battery was improved after about 3weeks use. So 7days! For me left!
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The green charging light goes on at ~95%. When the phone charges all the way to 100%, it disconnects itself from the charger until it goes back down to say, 95% again. When it hits 95% it will then charge itself back up to 100%, and this cycle will repeat. That's why sometimes when you pull the phone off the charger it is down to 90% or 95% or whatever sometimes within a few minutes.

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Battery calibration - never finish charging in recovery?

Hey there,
I tried to calibrate my battery the last few days...
There where so different descriptions on how to do it right.
But well at some point they all said to charge the phone turned of ( well it automaticaly jumps into recovery, right?).
And it was said charge it till the led goes green.
But I think it never happens in my case.
In one case I fully chagred my phone powered on and then turned it off, plugged it in again. The red/orange led staied there even after 3 hours...
The other day I fully discharged the phone and wanted to charge it in recovery mode. So I plugged it in, the red/orange led began to flash, recovery booted and I went to bed. About 10 hours late I woke and the led was still flashing as before.
I had no patience and turned it on. With the system running it tells me, that its at 100%.
Turning it off again unplug and replug it will show the red/orange led again but not flashing.
Its a european desire z (germany)
On Virtuous 0.9
With clockwork 2.something
Any ideas? Should I have been even more patient to see the green light in recovery? How long could it take?
Thanks,
- coni
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It seems the question of how to charge the battery pops up at least once a week now, with the same misconceptions. There is no such thing as calibrating the battery. All you are doing is calibrating the battery meter (just a volt meter) on the phone. Li ion batteries cannot (and should not) be calibrated or conditioned. The best way to calibrate the meter is to charge the phone to 100%, drain to about 20%, repeat a couple times. You should not discharge the battery below 20%. I cover it a little more in depth on the following post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11026655&postcount=7
I don't see any advantage to charging the phone while its off (except that it will charge faster, of course). I always charge mine while its on (with screen off).
I don't know why your green light is not coming on. Mine comes on after the phone has been charging for about 2 hours or less. But I am on the stock ROM, so its possibly something to do with the ROM, so you might have some better response by searching or asking in the Virtuous thread.
Yeah I know that you just calibrate the voltage meter but its just easier to say battery calibration.
Well maye the misconceptions occur because there are plenty of different answers spread and its easy to become confused. I just avereged over these methods and the consensus was to change fully while turned off.
The only way I could think of loading in recovery is better, is that the software prevents loading when it thinks battery is full (but in fact it is not), but I relly dont know.
And you say even after deleting battery stats there is no need for discharging till shutdown (to show the limits or anything)? To reset on full battery is enought?
Thanks,
- coni
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does anybody know how to delete battery statistics of the Desire Z ?
I want to calibrate battery and delete old stats.
Thanks & Greets
Well, your problem first if that you said you had recovery 2.x and that if you turned it off it automatically jumps to recovery.. you seem to have the first recovery that the power off feature wasnt quite working well.. upgrade to a 3.x then like the above user said but drain the battery until it reaches %15.. thats when the Connect To A Charger popup shows up.. and charge to 100% and do couple cycles of these..
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[Q] Phone Charging Question

Problem:
I have been reading as many posts as possible but I haven't come across my exact situation. I apologize if this is posted elsewhere.
I am running a rooted Dinc using CyanogenMod 7.0.3. If I charge the phone while it's powered on, the amber led turns green as soon as the battery indicator hits 100%. However, recently I've noticed that if the battery is close to being full, say 90%, and i power it off to charge it, it actually takes longer for the amber led to turn green. It might take 20-30 minutes longer.
I've also noticed the amber light turn green when the indicator only showed 92%. In trying something different I also noticed that if I charge the phone while it's powered on, then turn the phone off, the led goes amber and takes another 20 minutes to turn green again (I might be accidentally bump charging in this example but I'm not sure).
Attempted Solution:
I've read that a battery recalibration might help. I tried one method that requires the battery to be pulled after a full charge, but my phone won't boot while plugged into the wall if there's no battery. Then I tried booting into recovery, where I found an option to reset the battery stats... which I just did about 5 minutes ago.
I'm going to see how things go tomorrow, but is this normal? Has anyone else experienced these things? Thanks.
Logan176 said:
Problem:
I have been reading as many posts as possible but I haven't come across my exact situation. I apologize if this is posted elsewhere.
I am running a rooted Dinc using CyanogenMod 7.0.3. If I charge the phone while it's powered on, the amber led turns green as soon as the battery indicator hits 100%. However, recently I've noticed that if the battery is close to being full, say 90%, and i power it off to charge it, it actually takes longer for the amber led to turn green. It might take 20-30 minutes longer.
I've also noticed the amber light turn green when the indicator only showed 92%. In trying something different I also noticed that if I charge the phone while it's powered on, then turn the phone off, the led goes amber and takes another 20 minutes to turn green again (I might be accidentally bump charging in this example but I'm not sure).
Attempted Solution:
I've read that a battery recalibration might help. I tried one method that requires the battery to be pulled after a full charge, but my phone won't boot while plugged into the wall if there's no battery. Then I tried booting into recovery, where I found an option to reset the battery stats... which I just did about 5 minutes ago.
I'm going to see how things go tomorrow, but is this normal? Has anyone else experienced these things? Thanks.
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The kernel and the hardware charge it in different ways. That's why there are differences. DInc is famous for ending charging before the battery reads full. There's already a thread on that. there's not much point in getting hung up on how that thing charges. Be glad yours isn't like mine; a battery that discharges faster than it charges. Seriously.
loonatik78 said:
The kernel and the hardware charge it in different ways. That's why there are differences. DInc is famous for ending charging before the battery reads full. There's already a thread on that. there's not much point in getting hung up on how that thing charges. Be glad yours isn't like mine; a battery that discharges faster than it charges. Seriously.
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Before I had a fast charge kernel (thanks Chad!) Using GPS with the stock VZW car charger, my battery would go down while it was on the charger!
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On AOSP roms, the LED will turn green at 90% and charge slower from 90%-100%. Perfectly normal, and I think on any rom it will charge slowly from 90%-100% to protect the battery.
The battery will charge further when you turn the phone off, what you described is what's known as bump charging. If you do this, you should notice a slower drop from 100%-90% than usual, because the battery is charged to a "true" 100%. When the phone is on and charging (above 90%), it simply keeps the battery above 90% even if it says it's fully charged, and this is why the inc is notorious for the quick 100%-90% drop.
If you do a bump charge and then clear the battery stats and use the battery calibration app will you need to bump charge again or will it know what the true 100% capacity is and keep the droid lasting longer. Not noticing much of a diffrence when i went from 1300 battery to a 1500. May get a bigger batter that'll fit the stock battery door cause I'm trying to get the best battery life i can get.
Thanks guys, I appreciate the help. I think something else that has thrown me off is that before I rooted the phone I wasn't able to see the actual battery percentage in numbers... all I could see was the battery icon. Things are now making more sense.
After recalibrating my battery I bump charged the other day and I was able to get almost 2 days out of my phone on light usage. Without bumping, I was able to end my day yesterday at 50% under my normal usage. Which is a noticeable improvement. Normally I end the day with about 10-20%. The big test will be once I go back to work next week. The cell reception is real spotty in my classroom, which I know makes the cell radio work harder.
Thanks again.
I found a lot of answers I was having about battery charging in this thread:
Your battery gauge is lying to you (and it's not such a bad thing)

[Q] Desire turns off at 10%

Everytime my phone reaches 10%, the phone will shut down itself and it won't turn on again.
i have tried bump charging and calibrating the battery but still without success... anyone got any soulutions other then buying a new battery?
thanks.
Try this: fully charge the phone then let the battery drain completely, until the phone shuts down. Plug the phone into the wall charger, let it charge for a minute or so then turn the phone on while still plugged into the charger and let it charge completely. After a full (100%) charge, the battery indicator should be precise.
I've noticed that if i restart the phone of plug it in after charging, the battery indicator will show an extra 10%, so that's the main reason for the shutdown at or a little below 10%.
This operation should be repeated once a month, just to keep the battery and the battery stats fresh.
Don't wipe battery stats and don't try any other calibration tweaks. They might damage the battery. There are some people here complaining about that.
If the phone still shuts down at 10% after the above-indicated trick, then your battery might be old and in need of replacing, but i wouldn't replace it just because of a 10% indicator error if it can still hold a proper charge.
I have the same problem. I also calibrated my batterie and everything but it still turns off at ~10%.
But since I know that, it's not really a problem
Its always turned off at ~15% for me. I accepted that this was normal. I've seen a lot of posts around but no one seems to of found a proper solution. I actually doubt that there is a proper solution to this.
Punched in..
snq's kernel? I take it is normal with it as none of the GB sense rom managed to come even near the 1-2%. A bug with the kernel probably.
Flashed Oxygen last week - bam, phone turns off at 1%. No calibration was needed even .
Every time this happens to me I charge it 100% then I reset battery stats. Then let it discharge threw normal use then give it a proper charge, plugged into wall charger, not PC.....! And once its 100% ignore green light check it says 100% on the top bar then I unplug. Its normally always sorted then. But I have had to repeat twice in the past.
I also agree about kernal, often after updates it goes bonkers, and I'm on miui, lots of updates
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Mine also used to turn off at ~14%. After using a battery calibrator, i could push it down to 7%. However, on the other "side" of the scale, it goes down qute quickly from 100% to ~92%. All this on GV2.8, and the unofficial ManU kernel 2.1.1.
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Just wipe battery stats in recovery after full discharge if you changed ROM, and then let it charge to 100%.
Used the battery calibrator app (for nexus one) with detailed instructions. Now batt lifeis awesome, turns off at 3%.
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This works great for my Desire, and it turns of at 1%
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1240494
Hope it helps!
I had the same issue on my stock Telstra branded rom. Since changing to cyanogenmod it hasn't happened since.
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darwin567 said:
This works great for my Desire, and it turns of at 1%
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1240494
Hope it helps!
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Did the thread move or die, or is the link just wrong?

Do I need a new battery?

I own a HTC wildfire. I have some issues with my battery and I can't pinpoint out the reason, these are the issues:
It rarely charges to 100% unless I let it charge for a while and then reboot the phone. But it'll drop really quick
If its charging while switched off and I take the charger off, the charging light will stay on indefinitely
The battery goes really quick, in 90 mins my battery charge is now 38%
When switched off and charging, it never gets the green fully charged light, but if I switch it on it'll say 100%
Do I need a new battery?
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battery weird fail/very fast discharge

Hey all,
I have the wildfire running with a stable CM nightly (forgot exact version, but already a good year old I think and never any problem with the battery). I have not recently done anything special with my phone (no new radio, ROM, updates, new apps, ...) but since a week or two I have the following problem:
Charging the phone takes first of all ages to reach 100%. And when it's charged, it will crash about 4 hours later. The battery indicator will be at about 35% or higher just before it crashes (thus not at 0). When I reboot (while charging after the crash) however, it says 0 or 1% left. When I then go to the settings -> about phone -> battery , the battery life just INSTANTLY drops from about 60% to zero (see picture)
This problem appeared pretty out of nowhere. Is this a battery calibration problem, or do you guys think the battery is just at the end of its life? I'm aware that this could just be it since the phone is almost 3 years old (bought on day of release here), but it's just acting so strange.
Any help is appreciated,
Thanks,
Maarten
Try the two obvious things
1- wipe dalvik cache and cache partition
2-wipe battery stats
Can you post a screenshot os the battery usage screen
The level indicator is in the first post, the usage (apps etc) I cannot do right now as after wiping it does not reboot anymore (stuck at HTC screen), but it was about 50% for signal and 50% for standby (or what are the 2 largest users in %, I forgot)
Wipe battery stats or manually delete batterystats.bin. Calibrate it. If nothing works reflash your rom. Not a battery prob.
Odp: battery weird fail/very fast discharge
I had similar situation. Change battery. It is broken probably.
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There seems to be many battery problems for wildfire, I had to abandon mine because of a similar problem, except it would charge to 100% but then drop to 4% within a few hours and wiping battery cache never helped, tried my battery in another wildfire no problems so in the end I gave up with it
But I remember someone saying it was something damaged inside the phone
Anyway good look with your issue hope it gets solved.
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I fixed my booting problem by reflashing the ROM. I also wiped cache/dalvik and battery stats.
The problem remains however. Stays around 100 pretty long, then goes to 80% in less than an hour. And then it crashed around something like 60%. After rebooting it said 34% left.
Guess the only thing else I can try is to completely empty the battery, then recharge it whilst the phone is off.
I'm going to buy a new smartphone soon, so it better just work another month !
wolfway said:
I fixed my booting problem by reflashing the ROM. I also wiped cache/dalvik and battery stats.
The problem remains however. Stays around 100 pretty long, then goes to 80% in less than an hour. And then it crashed around something like 60%. After rebooting it said 34% left.
Guess the only thing else I can try is to completely empty the battery, then recharge it whilst the phone is off.
I'm going to buy a new smartphone soon, so it better just work another month !
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Yea, wipe battery stats again, sue ur phone till its 0% and charge up to 100%, keep on charging for about 20 mins.. try then if battery shoes properly..
Doesn't seem to solve it... Completely emptied the battery (or at least I'd think it is empty, see further), then charged for like 8 hours whilst phone is off, then wiped battery stats in recovery. Then after rebooting first thing it did was crashing again.
The crashes often seem to be related with internet/apps. I now have internet and poweramp app off and it works fine (no crashes), but when I turn these on, sometimes after a minute it crashes, pretty weird
Also after some crashes, about 15 minutes later I can suddenly reboot, then it showed 15%, then it crashed again. After reboot (without any charging) it showed 65%... The indicator is completely ****ed up it seems...
Guess there is nothing to do but getting a new phone as this is too annoying. Thanks for the help though !
Batt voltage meter defect
I have a exacly same problem.
It is the voltage meter problem. Mine wildy shows 4.07V at fully charged battery which if you measure conected battery on its terminals mulitimiter shows 4.273 so its off by 0.2V. Now the phone will never light green led, it think battery is not charged fully. I checek this with 4 years old and new original htc batts. Same thing, voltage meter defect! If you charge it to full, multimeter shows 4.237V on batt terminals,reboot it and get a spike to 92% it suddenly drops to 78% even though mains charger is still connected and charging! Internal Volt meter also reads dorp from 4.07 to 4.02! :crying:
There i also thread on Desire Z forums of same thing happening here.
Is this HTC using crappy mobo components?
vicryl said:
I have a exacly same problem.
It is the voltage meter problem. Mine wildy shows 4.07V at fully charged battery which if you measure conected battery on its terminals mulitimiter shows 4.273 so its off by 0.2V. Now the phone will never light green led, it think battery is not charged fully. I checek this with 4 years old and new original htc batts. Same thing, voltage meter defect! If you charge it to full, multimeter shows 4.237V on batt terminals,reboot it and get a spike to 92% it suddenly drops to 78% even though mains charger is still connected and charging! Internal Volt meter also reads dorp from 4.07 to 4.02! :crying:
There i also thread on Desire Z forums of same thing happening here.
Is this HTC using crappy mobo components?
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Htc wildfire is no more released now. It stopped in 2010. This has the answer. That is one of the bug with wildfire.
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