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Coming from legend to desire....

Ok so I got a legend, freakin cool phone. Had the opportunity to upgrade to desire for free so of course I took it. Now don't get me wrong, of course the desire is a 'better' phone, but I cannot help but notice that build is soooo much better on the legend. Now most of you will say of course, it is aluminum, but it's not just that.
1) Probably the most annoying, the screen on the legend destroys the desire. It shouldn't on paper, but believe me it does. The pentile matrix vs no pentile matrix is abundantly clear.
2) I am terrified of dust getting under the screen because i can see the gap between the screen and phone and am constantly making sure I clear dust from it. On the legend the screen is sealed to the side of the phone.
3) Well obviously the materials aren't as nice, but I knew that would be the case in making the change so that one does not really count.
That being said, the desire is a powerful beast and I am looking forward to Froyo.
These might be interesting points to someone tossing up between the two phones. The legend was also blazingly quick, and unless you want to play the latest 3d games, it is probably fast enough for you. Still not sure if I did the right thing upgrading!

yeah i know what you mean about the pentile thing, i'm not surprised the legend screen looks better tbh
and i find the gap between the screen and body annoying as well, but theres nothing you can do lol

yea unfortunately i did not know about the pentile thing prior to changing. i am sure i would not have really noticed it i i didn't have the legend first, but dayom! the screen on the legend was crisp!

Yes I agree, legends actually a very good phone except one and only one problem which is the CPU...... it pushes legend to an edge that everyone turn to desire.
But hero and legend has actually a much better size and style which I love them so much.
Although I am using desire, lol.
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HTC were so close to making literally the be all and end all of kick ass smart phones, desire components in legend body. Damn that would been sweet

Am I the only one mystified that each new HTC phone seems to be disconnected from the past models? In other words, why not the Legend II?

Not with android family at least.
You can see the touch series that htc made for windows mobile. Well, initially, only some touch models and now all their wm devices are under the name Touch.
Hopefully, there is something like that to happen to their android product line.
And I'm really looking for the gsm versions of evo 4g and incredible. N1/desire power, legend design quality without mis-register multitouch issue on popular gsm network. I don't live in the US btw.
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Yeah, if HTC made a phone with the Legend's build quality and the power the HTC Desire, I would be all over it =]

al89nut said:
Am I the only one mystified that each new HTC phone seems to be disconnected from the past models? In other words, why not the Legend II?
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I think you mean the Legend should have been the Hero II!
Regards,
Dave

argh! i need to figure out in the next 2 days whether i want to change back to legend. if i am not going to be playing crazy games or using google earth, do you think the desire is overkill? the main thing i would be worried about with the legend is that it will lack the support of the desire as it is not a flagship model

matt246 said:
argh! i need to figure out in the next 2 days whether i want to change back to legend. if i am not going to be playing crazy games or using google earth, do you think the desire is overkill? the main thing i would be worried about with the legend is that it will lack the support of the desire as it is not a flagship model
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I have the Desire and i loved it... Never got the chance to test Legend since i compared the two and have gone to the powerfull one, but...
I really dislike the physical buttons on the Desire. It bothers me that a touch device have so many physical buttons (they can be physical, but more integrated to the design like the Legend).
Also the speaker is very poor when making calls on speakerphone (but i think this is HTC regular) and the battery cover lacks some quality...
My eyes are really stuck on Legend - it is simply fabulous! Really really beautiful and made of aluminum, but i also heard that it makes wireless power go down a bit when compared to other non aluminum.
I've bought the Desire instead of the Legend mainly because of the power vs price and the wireless thing...
My advice is that you go for the one you like the most, since they are mainly the same, but the Legend is so dawn cool and beautiful and the Desire is a powerful beast! Which serves you best?

All right, have decided to keep the desire. Although this is probably more down to laziness than an actual well thought out decision. But if I decide I really want the legend then I can always sell the desire. Might do that if legend actually gets 2.2

matt246 said:
All right, have decided to keep the desire. Although this is probably more down to laziness than an actual well thought out decision. But if I decide I really want the legend then I can always sell the desire. Might do that if legend actually gets 2.2
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You won't regret it
One day you'll need that Snapdragon CPU, and rumors are FroYo may enable 720p video recording

Ok little bit of an update, just managed to get my desire side by side with my friends legend.
The colors on the legend look so washed out next to the desire! Doesn't even seem AOMED. In my memory legend screen was so much better but next to desire it did not compare.
Also legend felt pretty slow after using the desire for 2 weeks.
So in my opinion, the legend only wins out on form factor now. Glad I kept my desire, enjoying all the custom roms that are coming out!

HTC Desire or the Samsung Galaxy S i9000

Hi Guys,
Don't know if I should be posting this here but I'm at a loss, I have in my possession the HTC Desire and the Samsung i9000 both brand new, and I want to keep one and sell the other.
PROBLEM IS I have no clue which to keep and which to sell. Both have their pro's and con's yet I need to make a decisions and...FAST lol as I need the money!
What do you guys reckon? Any help would be needed!
Thanks!
Rolphez

I probably go for the desire as I dont like the iphone lookalike of the samsung galaxy.
And if you need the money you'll probably get more for the samsung as its just released in Australia.

The GPS on the Desire is amazing... where as on the Galaxy S, all I've heard is reports of how bad and useless it is... that made my mind up when I almost bought one

Thanks for the input I'm leaning more towards the desire at the moment yet the screen and sound on the samsung are heaps better
What I mainly don't like about the samsung is the unneeded samsung crap they include in their rom.
The Htc sense is brilliant but I must admit the touch responsiveness is far better on the samsung.
Hard choice!
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rolphez said:
Thanks for the input I'm leaning more towards the desire at the moment yet the screen and sound on the samsung are heaps better
What I mainly don't like about the samsung is the unneeded samsung crap they include in their rom.
The Htc sense is brilliant but I must admit the touch responsiveness is far better on the samsung.
Hard choice!
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You can always root the samsung and remove the crap
Or just use a different launcher...

In videos I saw, Samsung Galaxy's CPU was performing noticeabley better, especially in 3D apps.

The Samsung should have aproximately 3x the 3D performance that the N1 and the Desire has.
Due to the 3D chip they're using.

hard choice indeed, i imagine the galaxy camera is also better, maybe if you remove all the bloatware from the galaxy it will be more responsive
it's also better outdoors?
i think galaxy, but it all depends on your needs, init!
btw i luvs me desire

well, galaxy s got super amoled and better gpu...everything else is same or better on desire. lame UI on samsung and i rly dont believe in samsung updates, after seeing what happened to i7500... imho desire

I have almost the same predicament.
I currently have a HD2 and I was so dissapointed that software wise, it was at the end of it's life. I thought that was a stupid faux-pas on the part of HTC and feel incredibly let down, as a lot of HD2 owners do. It looks like Android isn't ever going to be a viable option on it, and if it were, it would probably be a half-working shell.
So, thanks to O2 Ireland changing pricing in my contract, I was able to get out of my 18 month contract by 16 months on it so I bought a desire. The first thing I noticed, was that sense was nowhere near as polished as on the HD2, but I can live with that.
To cut a long stgory short, the network I was sold the phone on was utterly useless for data (Meteor) so i cancelled that contract, and tried to get the desire on voda. There were none in the shop, but the salesman in carephone warehouse in Ennis, kindly offered to sell me a samsung s i9000 on the proviso, that if if didn't like it, I could take it back and get a desire (as long as I made or received no calls/texts) so I stuck a disabled voda sim in and use it via wifi.
I instantly hated the Galaxy s because of 2 things. The blatent Iphone look, and the cheap plastic build quality of it. I can see that chrome outer edge looking worn in no time at all. Build wise, this is the worst phone i've come across. The battery cover is so thin and flimsy, and it's polished plastic so just inviting scratches and finger marks.
Anyway, 1st impressions aside, The User interface was just awful, But I have to say, that now i've installed launcherpro, and fancy widget I am really enjoying the phone.
I have a few days to choose which one to finally end up with (the Desire, or the Galaxy) and at this point I am torn.
I think what worries me most with the Galaxy, is updates. There will be an update to android 2.2 sometime in the far future, but I've heard others say thats the end of the official road. That in itself doesn't bother me, as long as newer versions of droid can be put on it. I think thats where most peoples concerns with this phone are. The desire has a company behind it with a better (but not always in the case of the HD2 and a few others) track record of updates, and there is a much larger community of cooks and enthusiasts for the desire.
The info out there at the moment on the Galaxy is sketchy. I've read people talking about how any cooked rom is only made from an official rom. Does that mean that when droid 3 comes out, that this phone is left behind? Does the same stand for the Desire?
Sorry for the long post.
Dave
PS. I just remembered my other MAJOR grievance with the Galaxy s. You have to use Samsungs proprietary software to access the phone via your computer. On the Desire, I just plugged it in, and could instantly see the sdcard. Not tried it with linux, but I suspect the galaxy won't be seen. Think I just made my mind up... Or maybe not.. Aargh

Thank you all for the replies, and I don't mind the long replies Dave, it's always best to hear such experiences as it helps me make a decision.
Here are my Pro's and Con's of both devices:
Starting with the Cosmetics:
1. The Build Quality of the Desire is by Far better than the I9000 - the i9000 feels like a toy rather than a phone.
2. The Desire looks much better than the Samsung i9000 - The whole reason I moved to Android is to forget the much hated (hatred is a personal opinion) iPhone look I don't want to be reminded by it again!
3. The Samsung i9000 is lighter than the Desire and although I actually didn't mind the lighter weight, my hand preferred to feel something solid rather than a piece of plastic. (I have to admit the HTC legend is my preferred phone as far as solid design is concerned!)
4. Samsung has a bigger screen than the Desire, and it's definitely brighter or cripier with it's Super AMOLED but pixel count is the same, and the 3.7" is more than enough in the Desire.
Moving on to other stuff...
5. I played some nice 3D games on the Samsung and I must admit for those who are into gaming, it's brilliant, I don't really care about such games i'm more into word games and stuff which the Desire manages to perform just fine in running them.
6. Using Swype input on the Samsung is much better than the desire, although I did manage to install Swype on the Desire and it works fine, but Samsung is more responsive it was just a pleasure to type on it.
7. Samsung's rubbish crap software on it is annoying and I seriously can't be bother rooting and installing custom Roms on it, I'd rather do it on the Desire - simpler and have a bigger variety of ROMS and updates...
8. I think I just convinced myself - Desire it is! LOL But i'll continue a little, GPS works much better on the Desire...
9. HTC is a much better mobile phone company for android systems (my opinion anyway)
10. Sound is better on Samsung than on Desire.
11. Samsung gives you 2GB space to install your apps on Desire gives you on 512MB but I believe this hurdle can be easily passed through A2SD.
12. Samsung comes with 16 GB Storage...which, though it's a good thing, yet you can buy a 16 GB micro SD for the Desire...Problem solved
Yea, the list can continue, but these are my thoughts...it is a hard decision to make...but i think weighing the pro's and con's...Desire beats the Samsung despite it being inferior with some of the hardware specs, I'm sure HTC will release something soon to match or surpass Samsung...

btw, just a lil question...how better is sound on galaxy s? i got desire, but i got no samsung to compare them
just curious, since im mainly using phone(other than phoning ^^) as mp3 player

For me, The perfect Android phone would be the HD2. I am appaled they wasted such a superb device on a dead OS. To double the insult, they will not offer a WM7 update path (I realise that's down to M$ but thats no damned excuse to someone who bought it thinking it would be future proof for a year or 2)
I love the size of the HD2's screen (but hate the touch input, it's very poor), thats why I was drawn to the Galaxy S. The screen is simply superb. Even using the stock droid keypad, the experience is much better than the HD2 and Desire combined. It is a pleasure to use the keypad, and swype performs really well. The desire by comparison is dull and boring. The colours don't jump out at you, and it's impossible to use in daylight.
I read all your pro's and con's and can only agree with you (apart from the sound, as I haven't compared them. I don't bother with mp3's etc.)
I think I am definately leaning more towards the Desire at this point. Technically it isn't as good. The screen is poor when compared against the Galaxy S. The buttons are clunky and unintuitive (The touch sensitive buttons on the Galaxy S are it's best feature IMHO), and the power button positioning is a pain in the the you know what! But it is likely to be much better supported by the community, and the company and thats important to me, as I fully intend to get back into developing again. The Galaxy S's onboard storage of 8 or 16GB is a major plus, but as you said a Micro SD card fixes that (although slower).
I'm going to investigate the rom cooking side of the Galaxy S now to to finally make my mind up. I saw a thread asking for £9.95 to access an online kitchen, but I thought that was against the principals of the community. Can't stand people trying to make money out of other peoples knowledge. If thats the kind of thing to expect from the average Galaxy S developer, then HTC it is

I decided on the Desire as it was voted and chosen by multiple sites best mobile phone of last year. Also got an HD2 just because it looked fantastic and will probably be the last wm6.5 phone - lots of apps I like still not on Android.
It's simply a fantastic phone with great community support. Owning it 2 weeks I've already rooted it, got apps2sd+, froyo (defrost), now froyo with sense (djdroid)...
I loved the HD2 when it worked, it went back to HTC for a no quibbles change of motherboard as it was constantly rebooting. My experience with Samsung customer service and support has not been great I must say (have an Omnia). Battery was never satisfactory, gps fix terrible, TomTom was not working first 6 months as Samsung's gps implementation was plain bad...
A friend got the Samsung, waiting him to break it so I can say 'told you so'...
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I decided on the Desire too. The GPS on the Galaxy was unuseable. It's a great device, but I think i'm going to get much more mileage out of the desire. So took it back today, and got a shiny new desire.

dave wroe said:
...The Galaxy S's onboard storage of 8 or 16GB is a major plus, but as you said a Micro SD card fixes that (although slower).
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Not to mention, 32GB MicroSD's soon to be coming down in price! And performance wise, I doubt you will be able to notice a difference on a decent class.
Think you chose the better deal with the Desire, just for the overall quality it gives you, even in its relatively small stature... I wanted the Evo, it's not in the UK, the Desire is a perfect stepping stone till we get 4G, although a stepping stone as is any phone.

I think Desire it is for now, until HTC release a new better device...until then I don't think the Samung i9000 is worth it (even with all it's pro's)...I have a brand new one with me for sale...anyone interested?!

Unless you really use the 3D chip from the Galaxy S I would go for the Desire. Samsung's phone quality is rubbish, the Galaxy is no exception.
As said the GPS is very poor, while the Desire's is very good. The processor itself isn't much better than the Desire's. And if you get even one update on the Galaxy you should be happy.
The SUPER AMOLED is a bit nicer but that's mainly because the Desire has a relatively cheap AMOLED screen. It won't help you much in direct sunlight although they claim it will.
The resolution is the same and personally I think 3,7" is a better phone size than 4".

I agree with you on that one...

One thing struck me from using the Galaxy S is the screen quality and touch responsiveness compared to the desire. The Galaxy S pisses over the desire in this department. Add the better Camera and camcorder and I was actually thinking of moving from the desire to the Galaxy. I use the phone for a lot for navigation duties so to hear that the GPS is lacking is a real shame. Is it a hardware problem or something that can be fixed by an update that it will probably not receive by the sounds of things?

To buy or not to buy

So it seems eveyoone hhas mixed reviews on the phone. Some people love it others dont. Can people but a few scentence review and there biggest problem. Most problems ive seen have been software.
Sent From My HTC sensation (desire with rcmix s )

For me, I'm really disappointed with the plastic body of the phone. It makes the phone looks like a toy when holding in hand despite being the flagship phone.
I don't care how strong the polycarbonate body is, even holding S2 feel better in the hand.

silversun92 said:
For me, I'm really disappointed with the plastic body of the phone. It makes the phone looks like a toy when holding in hand despite being the flagship phone.
I don't care how strong the polycarbonate body is, even holding S2 feel better in the hand.
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In my opinion, the One X looks much better built than the S2. The polycarbonate does not look cheap and plasticky.

If you can wait a month, the Galaxy S III will probably be announced, and the other competing phones like the Optimus 4x will start popping up. Really, this is the first quad-core phone and it is displaying all the telltale qualities of a 1.0 phone, despite HTC's supposed commitment to quality over quantity. This is also their first unibody polycarbonate phone, so two firsts is a really big gamble for a phone buyer. The first dual-core phone last year was the Optimus 2x. Tons of issues and even a class action lawsuit. Even if this is the one you plan to buy no matter what, I would still give it a month to iron out software kinks and hardware manufacturing issues, and then buy a later version of it.

Would be better to see what the competition comes out with and then making a decision. Also gives time for the price to drop.

To buy, or not to buy, that is the question.
I will probably wait till Galaxy S III gets released (22 may) and then decide.

The fact is that whatever phone you buy, a better one will be released soon enough afterwards that you'll wonder if you should have waited - but if you play that game, you end up waiting forever. Which is why I don't have a tablet yet.
With the One X, to some extent I think it depends on how much you like HTC Sense. The SGS3 might well have better specs, but I like Sense, so I wanted to stick with HTC.
I've only had it 2 days, so it's difficult to give a detailed opinion. But I like the feel of the phone, external build quality seems good, the screen is fantastic, and Sense 4.0 is a major improvement over previous versions. My only concern is the lack of a microSD card, but in all honesty I rarely filled up the 32GB card I had in my DHD, so I'm hoping that won't be an issue. The only issues I've seen so far are all software, and updates will come.
I haven't unlocked and rooted yet, as I have a 14 day cooling off period to see if I'll keep it or not. But early signs are that I will.

I do like sense a lot it complements android for me. Are mist issues softwaree or hardware
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Nitin985 said:
I do like sense a lot it complements android for me. Are mist issues softwaree or hardware
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Software for me.
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One x is great phone, the display is just amazing
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Should screen flickering and lag stop me from buying?
My 2 year-old Desire has almost had its time, since it started randomly corrupting my card over the last couple of months so I've been looking for a new phone. The moment I saw the One X, I knew this phone was for me - big screen, a a truckload of cores, ICS w/ hardware buttons, too-large internal storage, awesome camera. Under no circumstances am I buying a Samsung or LG phone, so waiting for the competition is off my to-do list and I love and have always loved (even much more since ICS came around) HTC Sense, so here goes the other major complaint I've seen. To be honest, I don't care if video recording doesn't look pristine - I'll probably never use it anyway.
My only concern is about a couple of problems I've read about on this forum - screen flickering and scrolling lag. I know there are also some apps missing from the X's play store, but I'm almost certain they'll be back with Tegra 3 - optimized versions very soon, along with many other interesting new one. So the question is as follows: Are these 2 problems big enough to hold me back until the next device I like (which may well be the next high-end HTC)? What would you do? Thanks!

J..N said:
Software for me.
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Intresting my friend
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My Love-Hate Reltionship with my HOX

I got my HOX just over two months ago but as much I love using this phone, there are a few things that just bug me. I had a Desire S before the One X and a Desire before that. Compared to the Desire S it is much faster and I am glad I upgraded, but I still have a few gripes. I have have been considering switching to the Galaxy SIII since my brother has it and it looks and feels better then I thought. Is it worth switching? Or are there some tips that can help me get past these problems. Here is a comparison of the things I love and hate about the HOX.
Love:
- The beautiful screen. Best screen I have ever used/seen on a phone hands down. When I leave my phone beside me after using it and the screen is still on, the viewing angles still surprise me. I have compared to the S3 screen and it pretty much trumps it in every way apart from the blacks. One of the best features of the phone.
- Sense. I've never rooted or installed my own custom roms onto a phone and even though I was thinking about it, I would prefer to keep my warranty intact and I enjoy sense. Obviously a matter of opinion but I love using sense as it feels very organized and I use some of the features like text reflow on the browser, smart dialer and car dock mode a lot, and I love the tons of widgets available. Touchwiz on the other hand is just bleugh. Too cartoony for my taste and just feels all over the place.
- Camera. Even though it isn't the best in low light condition, I love the widescreen pictures, and in decent light or even with the flash, the pictures are very, very clear. Also the camera interface is brilliant.
- Design. Love the unibody design, curved screen, drilled speaker holes and the led under the grill.
Hate:
- Battery Life. How do I describe the battery life on this phone. So damn inconsistent. Some days I can get 15h with 2.5h screen time. While some I get 8h with just over 1h screen time. I just don't get it. No matter what I do I won't get over 3h of screen time. Standby time on the phone is brilliant, but as soon I switch on the screen, the battery level just plunges. I never used to look at my battery level this much on a phone.
- Multitasking. I have tried some fixes, but as soon as I open more then 2 things at once, apps start to close. I am browsing the internet, switch to send a text message and come back after a minute or two, the page reloads. The same happens with games and other apps. I find myself hurrying to reply to a text in less then 20 seconds otherwise that app is restarting. This does not seem to happen on the S3.
- WiFi. Connection when using the WiFi on the HOX is fine. It is just when the phone is left on standby for too long, all data cuts off. As soon as I switch on the screen, connections fire up again, and all emails start flowing in. This doesn't happen all the time and is very random.
- Big nipple on the back of phone. Even though it looks cool, the way the camera sticks out is a strange design by htc. I am worried about scratching the glass every time I put down the phone. I'm not a big fan of using cases, but I am forced to as I would hate a scratched lens.
I have thought about switching to GS3 but I don't know, I just don't find it very appealing.
What do you think? Anyone share my views? Anyone feel there is a way past these problems. Even though the HOX has problems I still love it, but as much I enjoy using this phone, I need something that will work properly. My decision on switching phone is about 80% staying with the phone 20% switch to the GS3. I can't really imagine switching phones, but was just hoping for any suggestions to solve these problems.
What do you guys think? Any feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks

Broken GPS made me root and rom in the end, it was the deal breaker. The dislikes were a big factor. I thought I used to like Sense (went from Samsung Omnia HD > HTC Desire > Iphone 4S > Galaxy Nexus > HTC One X), but after coming from a Galaxy Nexus (vanilla ICS) I realized the error of my ways.
Dislike:
1. Sense (choppy UI, reduced functionality and still doesn't necessarily look better...eg task switcher, browser tab switcher)
2. Sense UI would reload all the time
3. Sound was crackling in videos
4. HTC Updates few and far between and don't fix anything
Like:
1. Screen
2. Unibody design

mujj said:
- WiFi. Connection when using the WiFi on the HOX is fine. It is just when the phone is left on standby for too long, all data cuts off. As soon as I switch on the screen, connections fire up again, and all emails start flowing in. This doesn't happen all the time and is very random.
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In the mail app under settings, did you already check the sync schedule? By default it turns off syncing in the evening and in the weekend

I have both. My gs3 is in mothballs. Waiting to sell it when a new phone comes out.
I used the one x from launch until July when I got the s3. I used the s3 for three weeks before finally calling it quits.
Reasons why I chose hox over s3.
Hox with sense is just miles ahead because of
Productivity software built in, mail, google tasks sync, evernote sync.
The mail app in sense is so good that I use it primarily instead of my blackberry mail. My blackberry is now used only for bbm. The less said about the s3 email app, the better. It is just pathetic.
Contacts integration with social networks.
The sense ui is far far ahead of anything in my opinion in the android ecosystem.
The phone radio is again far superior to s3.
The sense dialer is the best of any phone out there.
How can I forget the gorgeous screen. Again its by far the best that I have ever seen.
The HTC sense keyboard is good that I use it over swiftkey and thumb keyboard. The trace feature is amazing as well.
Friendstream is another winner for me.
Using sense means that I don't need extra apps for mail, tasks, notes and social networks. It's all built in.
Am not much of a gamer, play angry birds and stick cricket on occassions and hox does well.
Only shortfall is inconsistent battery. But I carry around a small Belkin portable battery pack in case I run low. Have only had to use it a couple of times though.
Sd card is subjective, most of my pictures are on drop box and on picasa so my storage is used for music. Some may want more space so having an external sd card is nice.
Cameras I actually preferred the s3 but the difference is marginal.
In short if you like an integrated productive ui and don't measure speed in micro seconds then hox is better.
If you love aosp, cheezy features like smart stay and s voice and love flashing tons just to get rid of the horrible horrible touch wiz ui and require an external sd card for 30 odd gb more then go for s3.
Again this is my opinion based on owning and using both phones. I also own and use a blackberry and an iPad so an well aware of the pros and cons of each phone and ui.
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With WIFI data-connectivity, I think there is some 'smart' (although disputed) functionality that disables WIFI through the night. This has been discussed on the forum before and a way to disable that.
My advice would be to stick with the device for at least another two weeks so that you get the new OTA update to 4.0.4. There are many good things said about that update throughout here, esp. UI speed, enhanced multi-tasking, three dot fix, etc that brings out the real tegra 3 power from the device. I too am waiting for that OTA or will flash an RUU if that arrives earlier. Or you could not wait and root the device and flash the linked ROM. Your call!
I don't have an issue with the Samsung per se, but it does not look as polished a device as the One X is and it doesn't feel that someone spent time designing and crafting the device but instead moulding plastic panels that make the S3. Samsung has historically preferred plastic (and amoled screens) on their devices and I am not a big fan of them at least not now when competitors are using advanced materials.
BTW, your camera description is hillarious....

not going to go into an essay i will just say this. i had first an iphone and was always an iphone user..then i switched over the galaxy s2...i still say for me that is the best damn phone i ever had. now the HOX i will say this. i love it in everyway and specially love how the music sounds on this and the camera is amazing...but if you are one of them who love rooting and flashing and customizing your phone with ease then your best bet is the S3.
if i had the choice i would stick with the One X as for user experience it is far more better than the S3 due to T3 for games and beats as well for music....it is down to you really what you want to go for both phones are great it is just down to you at the end of the day...i say stick with your One X for now and wait for the Nexus to come out...

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With WIFI data-connectivity, I think there is some 'smart' (although disputed) functionality that disables WIFI through the night. This has been discussed on the forum before and a way to disable that.
My advice would be to stick with the device for at least another two weeks so that you get the new OTA update to 4.0.4. There are many good things said about that update throughout here, esp. UI speed, enhanced multi-tasking, three dot fix, etc that brings out the real tegra 3 power from the device. I too am waiting for that OTA or will flash an RUU if that arrives earlier. Or you could not wait and root the device and flash the linked ROM. Your call!
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I like the idea of the three dot fix and if multitasking is improved and the WiFi problem fixed that would be brilliant. But I doubt the battery will get any better. Hope this update hits the UK soon. Thanks
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TBH battery life too is quoted as improved with the screen time easily over 5+ hours from 3+ (I think this was from the CNET article)...Anyways I don't worry about battery life nowadays as we all are surrounded by easily accessible power sources, be it the car or office and can always top up if need be.
I suggest you read up some articles on what is fixed in the 2.15* fix or in the 4.0.4 update on the AT&T One X. If you think the fixes are what you'd like on your phone, then stick with it.

skywalker1970 said:
I have both. My gs3 is in mothballs. Waiting to sell it when a new phone comes out.
I used the one x from launch until July when I got the s3. I used the s3 for three weeks before finally calling it quits.
Reasons why I chose hox over s3.
Hox with sense is just miles ahead because of
Productivity software built in, mail, google tasks sync, evernote sync.
The mail app in sense is so good that I use it primarily instead of my blackberry mail. My blackberry is now used only for bbm. The less said about the s3 email app, the better. It is just pathetic.
Contacts integration with social networks.
The sense ui is far far ahead of anything in my opinion in the android ecosystem.
The phone radio is again far superior to s3.
The sense dialer is the best of any phone out there.
How can I forget the gorgeous screen. Again its by far the best that I have ever seen.
The HTC sense keyboard is good that I use it over swiftkey and thumb keyboard. The trace feature is amazing as well.
Friendstream is another winner for me.
Using sense means that I don't need extra apps for mail, tasks, notes and social networks. It's all built in.
Am not much of a gamer, play angry birds and stick cricket on occassions and hox does well.
Only shortfall is inconsistent battery. But I carry around a small Belkin portable battery pack in case I run low. Have only had to use it a couple of times though.
Sd card is subjective, most of my pictures are on drop box and on picasa so my storage is used for music. Some may want more space so having an external sd card is nice.
Cameras I actually preferred the s3 but the difference is marginal.
In short if you like an integrated productive ui and don't measure speed in micro seconds then hox is better.
If you love aosp, cheezy features like smart stay and s voice and love flashing tons just to get rid of the horrible horrible touch wiz ui and require an external sd card for 30 odd gb more then go for s3.
Again this is my opinion based on owning and using both phones. I also own and use a blackberry and an iPad so an well aware of the pros and cons of each phone and ui.
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Touchwiz is less intrusive than sense.. Using a different launcher pretty much disguises most of it whereas sense is everywhere on the HOX.
I originally subscribed to the school of thought that the siii was a hideous blob "supported" a by a ridiculous marketing campaign, but having actually used an s3 I am impressed and Touchwiz is much improved.
I am going to swap to an s3, mainly because the HOX is the first Android phone where I've felt forced to root just to make the phone usable. The screen and design do not make up for the crap Multiasking, sense constantly reloading, hogging ram and rubbish battery life. I wouldn't mind if I actually had the option to change these things (e.g. Removable battery, memory expansion etc) but I dont.
I'm sick and tired of the bugs, and hardware faults. I've had screen flicker, Wifi problems and what seems eerily similar to death grip. I flashed an asop rom (CM10) and the only thing I slightly missed was the camera interface. With my galaxy s2 there were actually a number of good reasons to stick with stock (hardware video decoding being one)
I'm tired of constantly eyeing my battery, I despise the fact my warranty is now void because I had to root, and the plethora of bugs and defects mine and others have suffered is the reason I'm selling this phone.
Tbh I feel like a lot of this is to do with nvidas overhyped processor, and the rest is htc's inexplicable hostility towards the hacking community and their poor quality control.
Goodbye forever HTC
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narcoustic said:
Touchwiz is less intrusive than sense.. Using a different launcher pretty much disguises most of it whereas sense is everywhere on the HOX.
I originally subscribed to the school of thought that the siii was a hideous blob "supported" a by a ridiculous marketing campaign, but having actually used an s3 I am impressed and Touchwiz is much improved.
I am going to swap to an s3, mainly because the HOX is the first Android phone where I've felt forced to root just to make the phone usable. The screen and design do not make up for the crap Multiasking, sense constantly reloading, hogging ram and rubbish battery life. I wouldn't mind if I actually had the option to change these things (e.g. Removable battery, memory expansion etc) but I dont.
I'm sick and tired of the bugs, and hardware faults. I've had screen flicker, Wifi problems and what seems eerily similar to death grip. I flashed an asop rom (CM10) and the only thing I slightly missed was the camera interface. With my galaxy s2 there were actually a number of good reasons to stick with stock (hardware video decoding being one)
I'm tired of constantly eyeing my battery, I despise the fact my warranty is now void because I had to root, and the plethora of bugs and defects mine and others have suffered is the reason I'm selling this phone.
Tbh I feel like a lot of this is to do with nvidas overhyped processor, and the rest is htc's inexplicable hostility towards the hacking community and their poor quality control.
Goodbye forever HTC
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The LG optimus 4x HD uses the same processor, but it competes neck to neck w the SGS3 in terms of responsiveness. So it's clearly HTC's part that makes the phone lag.

The camera positioning is a real pain. I don't use a case and already there is some micro scratching on the lens.
The battery issue was almost a deal breaker for me until I rooted and installed a ROM that gives fantastic battery time (Maximus One).
Can't think of any major dislikes apart from those.

Well, everyone will always have an opinion about battery life. Nothing wrong in that. We have all been spoilt by those Nokia phones that lasted the whole week on full charge, haven't we? For me, the One X more than sufficiently lasts the whole day and where it doesn't it can be either attributable to some hardware issue or consumer usage. It shouldn't go flat overnight and I have seen far fewer posts that suggest such behaviour. Everyday that I have put the device on charge, it was already at 50+% and therefore could easily survive another day.
My only gripe is that if HTC had decided that they were going for a unibody design with no SD card expansion, then they should have at least maxed out the battery on it like how the Motorola RAZR MAXX did. This is possible and clearly some other manufacturer will get there. Form factor issues aside, if they were putting in a big screen, etc, then max it out as much as you can. Leaving it to be at 1800mah is like leaving a sore sticking point that will always fail to win consumers, esp. when the S3 has a removable cover, better battery and a SD card expansion slot. Clearly most people can do simple maths and can work out that the Samsung looks preferable with a high capacity battery and would go that way unless they know the things that make the HTC stand out well like screen, UI, etc where the HOX trumps. No one would have complained about anything other than hardware issues then and this phone would have tromped well over any competitors offerings.

mujj said:
- WiFi. Connection when using the WiFi on the HOX is fine. It is just when the phone is left on standby for too long, all data cuts off. As soon as I switch on the screen, connections fire up again, and all emails start flowing in. This doesn't happen all the time and is very random.
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This is due to SmartSync. You can disable it if yr rooted.
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how do u guys feel about the battery life after the 2.2 update? lasts a few hrs longer for me

Still haven't got it waiting patiently in the UK
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Did you force the update?
Settings/info/Software info/'Check now'?
mujj said:
Still haven't got it waiting patiently in the UK
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Laurentius26 said:
Did you force the update?
Settings/info/Software info/'Check now'?
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Many...many times
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Are you happy with your One X?

Thinking about replacing my Infuse. I've read some good things about the One X. Anything else you prefer in the same price range?
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More than happy!
I am thinking to buy another phone, (will keep my One X for sure) but after a lot of reading, there is nothing worth buying until new Tegra 4 comes out or when we see how new Galaxy 4 is performing after it comes out. At least for me.
Especially now I am happy for having One X because new kernel source is out before two days ago and there is lot of good developers working on optimize it and push the best out of our HOX. Also many quality custom roms, Sense and AOSP and excellent developers support and help.
I am having really good time playing with my One X.

Are you ahppy with your One X
Yes.
For me it is perfect. Works great, no bugs, looks good.
I like HTC Sense (this is my second HTC phone).
Only 2 drawbacks, depending on your usage habits:
If you are a heavy "power user" a phone with a replacable battery might be advantageous so you can switch out halfway through the day (this is not an issue for me)
If you are big into flashing Roms themeing etc a phone without the S-off issues of the One X

dandroid c said:
Yes.
For me it is perfect. Works great, no bugs, looks good.
I like HTC Sense (this is my second HTC phone).
Only 2 drawbacks, depending on your usage habits:
If you are a heavy "power user" a phone with a replacable battery might be advantageous so you can switch out halfway through the day (this is not an issue for me)
If you are big into flashing Roms themeing etc a phone without the S-off issues of the One X
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What issues does not having s-off cause for flashing roms and theming apart from flashing boot.img from a pc?
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Power is a bit of a problem but for me its not that important as I am used to charge my device every night.
If only the losing carrier signal once or twice every couple of months bug didnt exist the HOX would be perfect.
Be as it may I pretty happy with the beast.
If I were you though I d go for the HOX+ or wait a couple of months for the M7

It's a disappointing performance from HTC one x considering the quad-core ,it should fly it doesn't

No its the last HTC for me after the Desire which was easy to flash roms,this requires too much time and effort.Appalling build quality mine went back 3 times in first 6 months.

i am happy with my one x without sense

I must be very happy because I haven't swapped it for something else. Normally I don't keep a phone more than 2 months let alone 10 months on the one x.

Although I've initially suffered because I couldn't get used to getting only 3-4 h of screen on-time with this beautiful device, I've now come to love it despite that. After all, the stand-by time can be pretty great and most other devices out there have similar average screen-on time (except Razr MAXX and Note 2).
I actually think Sense is the best looking OEM skin and the 4+ version is oh so fluid. Love the camera and the display of my One X too.

oddyZR said:
More than happy!
I am thinking to buy another phone, (will keep my One X for sure) but after a lot of reading, there is nothing worth buying until new Tegra 4 comes out or when we see how new Galaxy 4 is performing after it comes out. At least for me.
Especially now I am happy for having One X because new kernel source is out before two days ago and there is lot of good developers working on optimize it and push the best out of our HOX. Also many quality custom roms, Sense and AOSP and excellent developers support and help.
I am having really good time playing with my One X.
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lol i feel exactly the same way about my hox and swapping =)
atrako1973 said:
It's a disappointing performance from HTC one x considering the quad-core ,it should fly it doesn't
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Not really , did you compare it to other phones , usually ppl compare it with s3 since it's rival to hox and both phones are great , it all comes to personal preference in there. If you're talking about gaming on HoX well that could be an issue for some games since devs are more confortable optimizing it for other devices then tegra. As for speed in system hox is pretty fast considering it has ONE OF THE HEAVIEST systems among them all, If you put CM rom on it you wont see any difference btw nexus 4 , s3 or any other phone, it's the sense that is lagging it sometimes. Anyway with new kernel source this should be fixed in no time.
The only real issue for me with hox would be battery life screen on time. I hit avarage 4:30- 5hrs , but hey s3 hits the similar screen on time, besides with 2100 mah battery in hox we can hit over 6hrs screen on time, it's just hard to get one of those.
Besides with ViperX rom theres none phone equal with customization , infact i have 2 friends who sold their s3 just so they use Viper Rom lol. Besides i think roms for hox are better then on s3 , i've seen s3 roms and theres nothing much changed compared to Stock rom. If you like flashing and custom roms then hox is great imo.
S-off isn't really an issue except when updating comes to the matter if you're branded , but for flashing i don't mind using pc to do it.
Anyway overall i'm happy with my hox. And i'll most likely keep it even when i get the new flagship this year simply cuz it's beautiful to look at it , talking about screen and design lol.
On a side note Sense 5 is rumored to be MUCH lighter OS then sense 4+ , and if you ask me 4+ is very snappy after jelly bean . maybe with android 5 our battery and snappiness improves. At least it should. And HoX should recieve sense 5 for sure , since OEMS are obligated to give to the users at least 2 major updates . we got 1 , JB , now is time for android 5 Key lime pie Anyway i hope i helped you with this post.
Edit - Since you're considering btw Hox and probably s3 since theres nothing else to chose from with this price range i'll put it simple for you.
If you want better battery go for S3
If you want design , beauty and BUILD quality go for hox.
But the best of all you should do this, go in the store and use both of these and then make up your mind. Before that you might wanna read few reviews about hox and S3 , just remember most of the reviews are based on ICS hox , after jelly bean hox is claimed to be faster then S3 in 90% of the comparable tests heres the link proving it. http://www.gsmarena.com/jelly_bean_update_for_htc_one_x_boosts_performance-news-5010.php
Once again the best thing to do is go in the store and review them both by yourself.

actually if you have thousands of cores, Android phone will still have a bit of lag/stutter. even iOS have it when memory almost full.
This is all dalvik related, and unless Google slowly migrating to other language, the lag/stutter will never be gone. it is all because of unstable frame rate. one time you play a game is smooth, next time it stutters.
So yeah, I am very much happy with my One X. The only reason for me to change phone is because of the design and dev support. Well probably not change, just add my collection. The day Google fix the stutter is the day even dual core is lag free that it doesnt matter what phone you have. because, you see, we have a quad core, but S2 still performs the quite the same. So whats the difference there? I have to admit Samsung made great processor that overshadow the lag, even though i still notice slight lag over time.
anyway, One X design still one of the best. and also, i still have my HTC Desire around to remind how grateful i am to actually have a fast and beautiful one x, because when i go back to Desire, man how slow it is back then but i found it fast before dual core is available.

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I am happy only the problem whith the overheating i have
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I must say that I was a little disappointed when I first got my HOX. Stock ROM doesn't make justice to this device hardware. Right now I'm on AOKP IceColdJelly and can say, for sure, that I coudn't be more satisfied. Custom ROMs unleash the true performance of this phone.

Having had a forced switch to a Nexus 4 as a result of bricking my One X (it was all I could afford), I thought I'd give a few points of comparison. Firstly, I much prefer the 'feel' of the One X. They're both clearly very well made devices, but the material choices in the HOX allow it to both feel classy and be comfortable to hold with the lovely soft-touch back. The Nexus 4 is definitely not as comfortable to hold, and I have complete paranoia about having 2 big glass surfaces to break...
The camera on the One X blows the Nexus 4 out of the water. In fact, the camera on the One X is good enough that you probably wouldn't benefit from carrying a compact digicam around too, so long as you don't need zoom. Especially in low light (thanks to the lovely f/2.0 lens), I would say the camera on the One X is better than the latest Samsung handsets (which use the same sensor lol)... Although it does seem to have a slight tendency to overexpose and blow out highlights in bright daylight (easily corrected with around -1EV exposure compensation) and the default sharpening is a little aggressive - you might see some aliasing on diagonal contrast detail if you don't turn it down a wee bit.
Benchmark performance is obviously better on the N4, but given the margin, I'm surprised (and glad, since I have a Nexus 7 which would feel laggy otherwise) it's not really noticeable in day-to-day use - if anything, the fact that quite a few games are 'Tegra enhanced' makes the One X one of the best phones out there for a gamer, since stuff looks prettier...
Screen quality is very similar between the phones after using a different calibration on the Nexus 4. However, unlike the N4, the out of the box calibration on the One X is surprisingly good and I do miss the screen area 'stolen' by the soft keys on the N4. Both screens are a world apart from any phone I've tried in the past. They both have quite remarkable contrast (which blows my calibrated Dell IPS LCDs out of the water) although they obviously can't match the contrast of an AMOLED. On the other hand, they don't have wacky cartoonishly oversaturated colours like AMOLEDs.
I've been very positive about the HOX here, but I'm afraid to say I don't think I would take a HOX over several other phones if they were offered at similar prices, purely because the battery life wasn't good enough for me (although it may be for you.) Standby life is very good, but you'll be very lucky to get 4 hours screen-on time even with light usage,and even less if you don't like Sense and want to run AOSP/CM. Just browsing the web and watching YouTube, I got over 7 hours out of my N4 yesterday (It's my new baby, I've just been made redundant, have a lot of time to play with it ) That's a pretty significant difference!

h0bnail said:
Thinking about replacing my Infuse. I've read some good things about the One X. Anything else you prefer in the same price range?
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u can say that im adoring my HOX in general, but the battery life worries me all the time (u get around 4 hrs on screen)
i was on ICS and now on JB (THE awesomeness) ..
Gr8 custom ROMs if u r interested (used 2 use Insertcoin but now im on ViperX 3.3.4 ... heck yea) alot of devs r working on this phone
we hope that the new kernel would fix some issues ..
Concerning its design, i think the HOX is truly a Masterpiece ..
It is indeed a Flagship phone ( battery )
I'd say, go 4 it

I am really happy with my One X. Hopefully it will keep me happy for quite some time.

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I'm very happy with my One X . I've unlocked my bootloader on Thursday and now I love my phone even more. Thanks HTC for this great phone:thumbup:
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This phone is great except for the abysmal battery life. I barely get 2 hours of screen time with it, let alone 3 or 4 hours. I use Spotify streaming regularly but this phone can barely last 4 to 5 hrs with that. One other minor problem is the poor sound quality and low volume compared to my previous iPhone 4S. I hope HTC fixes all these quibbles with the M7, or I might head for the iPhone 5s or SGS4.

I'm happy with my one x right now ...it's pretty usable for my daily use...
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