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I'm pretty much at my breaking point with this company. Between empty promises, botched hardware and being the last of the majors to even release the new technology, let's just state what goes without saying: AT&T should rename themselves to iPhoneT&T because they've apparently bet the farm on that overrated piece of crap and in turn have thrown their Windows Mobile business clients under the bus.
No amount of excuse makes sense or matters any more. The iPhone 3GS has been on the market for plenty of time. If someone was gonna buy it, they'd have bought it by now. If they were waiting for WinMo 6.5, they could have released it as an update rather than making their clients wait while every other major phone company released it. Not to mention the fact that the "consortium" of US carriers have kept HTC from releasing unlocked versions for U.S. consumers. God forbid they didn't get their over-charging grubby hands on a few extra shekels. For the love of everything sacred, HTC is already leaking the HTC Leo and I have yet to see a TP2 outside of a T-Mobile showroom!
AT&T has lost it's focus and I'm at the point where waiting for them to get off their sorry butts to release a phone (of which they're going to screw up the hardware, let's be frank) has become a near impossibility and I'm about ready to jump ship.
That leads me to two questions: Who's with me and where the heck should I go?
Hey I feel your pain I am still using the Hermes from 3 years ago. I really want this phone but I can't do Sprint (Not enough custom ROM's etc) and Verizon well they just totally suck!! T-mobile is an option but coverage isn't that great here and there is no 3G and I have heard the sound volume is sucky on that one for some reason.
So I am stuck for now. As far as the whole 6.5 thing it really doesn't matter to me because I would just be using a custom ROM from here anyway but I really have no choice but to wait
While the Leo looks bad as hell I think its the first time I have actually thought hmmm maybe that phone is just too damn big for me lol
They've got the iDud and all the money and glory that goes along with it, do you think they give a crap about the Touch Pro 2?
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Verizon well they just totally suck!! T
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Why do you say that?
californiarailroader said:
Why do you say that?
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Just my personal experience and I told myself long ago I would never give them my money again because of the things they do.
Most of their phones you can't send files like pics and ringtones via bluetooth because that profile is taken out. Alot of phone have GPS locked and WIFI taken out etc.
Again thats just my personal opinion.
MrDSL said:
Just my personal experience and I told myself long ago I would never give them my money again because of the things they do.
Most of their phones you can't send files like pics and ringtones via bluetooth because that profile is taken out. Alot of phone have GPS locked and WIFI taken out etc.
Again thats just my personal opinion.
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They used to do those things, that's true, but no more, all their smartphones (and regular phones) come with all features (like GPS, Bluetooth OBEX, etc.) intact and ready for use. They have also released ROM updates for many devices, like the original Touch Pro and Omnia that unlock the GPS on them. They said they'd do it, and they did, I am surprised but pretty happy they have
Thats probably true but at this point its the principle of the matter because I have way too many options in my area. Besides they are also the most expensive.
We've got 5 carriers, AT&T (formerly Edge Wireless here, an AT&T affiliate), Verizon, US Cellular, Metro PCS and as of this summer/fall, T-Mobile, who is just building out in our area. In terms of actual coverage, it goes like this-
1.US Cellular
2.Verizon
3.AT&T
4.Metro PCS
5.T-Mobile (they are just building out, hence the low rating).
Sprint and Nextel have licenses to serve our area as well, but have never built out a network here. Sprint roams on US Cellular, and Nextel phones are just dead paperweights.
californiarailroader said:
They've got the iDud and all the money and glory that goes along with it, do you think they give a crap about the Touch Pro 2?
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Oh it's obvious that they don't give a crap about it. My problem is that they want to have their cake and eat it too. "We don't give a crap about Windows Mobile users and we'll release the phones we're going to whenever we darn well please, but we want to be sure that HTC doesn't give people the opportunity to buy it before we make it available."
The fact that they keep the manufacturer from releasing an unlocked version that will work here is criminal. It's almost a cellular monopoly but in the sense that the carriers have gotten together as a team in an effort to remove choice from the consumer. They can claim all they want that you can still buy one from the manufacturer but that's like saying you can only buy a Porsche in the US from a Porsche dealer. If you order one from overseas, not only will you pay significantly more, we're also going to replace the engine with one from a 1987 Ford Escort.
Why can't we just buy the phone we want from whoever we choose and let that be that. I still have to pay for service any way you cut it. They can't be making THAT much money of the device itself anyway!
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Not me.
I'm cruising along just fine on my Kaiser till AT&T gets the Tilt 2 like they want it.
Everything I've read leads me to believe it's a great device and worth the wait. If I get 2 years out of a Tilt 2 like I have my Tilt 1, it's all good.
I'm with you. Hopefully I'll be saying byebye to AT&T today...Once my TP2 arrives..
I don't mean to be a little rough but STOP WHINING AND TAKE ACTION!
I felt exactly as you did and changing carriers wasn’t really an answer. After all, by buying from any carrier you are supporting HTC and the local carriers who arrange/force HTC not to release phones with US 3G bands.
The ONLY way this is going to change is if the customers (YOU) change.
Personally, I have decided I will NOT sign any 2 year commitment and I will NOT be forced to buy a data plan, and I will NOT support HTC who is allowing ATT and others to bully them into not releasing world phones with US 3G bands.
The solution is simple, buy from a company who DOES NOT DO THIS. Personally, I went with the Samsung Omnia 2. If that is not your cup of tea, look at Nokia’s or even the Sony X2 which is due out soon. Support the companies that are releasing phones with US 3G bands.
The only way the local carriers are going to change (or HTC) is if enough of us speak with our money and take our business elsewhere. That is the only way things will change. Whining about it on a forum isn’t going to have any effect.
Good luck to you and I hope you do speak with your wallet by taking your business to other phone manufacturers.
While I'm certainly not enjoying the wait to upgrade my 8525, I don't really see the issue with them waiting for WinMo 6.5. Sucks for me, but then I know the carrier is going to fully support it. Are all the other carriers going to have 6.5 upgrades ready and waiting on Oct 6th?
Also I feel like I'm in the minority, but my experience with AT&T has been great. Their 3G coverage in my area is fantastic. I'm not a big fan of AT&T as a company, but I have a hard time arguing with the service I receive.
My first post.
I've been waiting on ATT for what seems like forever. Think I'm going over to Sprint in a week or two so I can try out both the TP2 and the Hero then decide which one I want. Not to mention the monthly cost will be significantly reduced compared to ATT.
Have a newb question. I know there is a different hardspl for the Sprint version, that isn't out yet as far as I can tell, but once hardspl is out will all the roms, software, etc. for the other versions work on the CDMA version? If not I might be stuck waiting on ATT and paying too much for service.
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I'm pretty much at my breaking point with this company. Between empty promises, botched hardware and being the last of the majors to even release the new technology, let's just state what goes without saying: AT&T should rename themselves to iPhoneT&T because they've apparently bet the farm on that overrated piece of crap and in turn have thrown their Windows Mobile business clients under the bus.
No amount of excuse makes sense or matters any more. The iPhone 3GS has been on the market for plenty of time. If someone was gonna buy it, they'd have bought it by now. If they were waiting for WinMo 6.5, they could have released it as an update rather than making their clients wait while every other major phone company released it. Not to mention the fact that the "consortium" of US carriers have kept HTC from releasing unlocked versions for U.S. consumers. God forbid they didn't get their over-charging grubby hands on a few extra shekels. For the love of everything sacred, HTC is already leaking the HTC Leo and I have yet to see a TP2 outside of a T-Mobile showroom!
AT&T has lost it's focus and I'm at the point where waiting for them to get off their sorry butts to release a phone (of which they're going to screw up the hardware, let's be frank) has become a near impossibility and I'm about ready to jump ship.
That leads me to two questions: Who's with me and where the heck should I go?
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I'm way ahead of you. I left AT&T 3 weeks ago for the TMo TP2.
argoldst said:
I don't mean to be a little rough but STOP WHINING AND TAKE ACTION!
I felt exactly as you did and changing carriers wasn’t really an answer. After all, by buying from any carrier you are supporting HTC and the local carriers who arrange/force HTC not to release phones with US 3G bands.
The ONLY way this is going to change is if the customers (YOU) change.
Personally, I have decided I will NOT sign any 2 year commitment and I will NOT be forced to buy a data plan, and I will NOT support HTC who is allowing ATT and others to bully them into not releasing world phones with US 3G bands.
The solution is simple, buy from a company who DOES NOT DO THIS. Personally, I went with the Samsung Omnia 2. If that is not your cup of tea, look at Nokia’s or even the Sony X2 which is due out soon. Support the companies that are releasing phones with US 3G bands.
The only way the local carriers are going to change (or HTC) is if enough of us speak with our money and take our business elsewhere. That is the only way things will change. Whining about it on a forum isn’t going to have any effect.
Good luck to you and I hope you do speak with your wallet by taking your business to other phone manufacturers.
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Let's see, you don't have a TP2, don't even have an HTC phone, and are advocating that all of us also refuse to buy HTC altogether so WTF are you doing here in a forum dedicated primarily to HTC phones? It seems to me that if you really were serious about your little boycott you would put your money where your mouth is and "take your business elsewhere."
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My first post.
Have a newb question. I know there is a different hardspl for the Sprint version, that isn't out yet as far as I can tell, but once hardspl is out will all the roms, software, etc. for the other versions work on the CDMA version? If not I might be stuck waiting on ATT and paying too much for service.
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I highly doubt it.
i think the main reason att hasnt released the touch pro 2 is that their network isnt ready to handle all the data the will be running on those devices, they have already alot of activity from the 3gs , also they are waiting to release it with windows 6.5 so that will be a plus because it will be definite that it will be fully supported, just my .02
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I'm pretty much at my breaking point with this company. Between empty promises, botched hardware and being the last of the majors to even release the new technology, let's just state what goes without saying: AT&T should rename themselves to iPhoneT&T because they've apparently bet the farm on that overrated piece of crap and in turn have thrown their Windows Mobile business clients under the bus.
No amount of excuse makes sense or matters any more. The iPhone 3GS has been on the market for plenty of time. If someone was gonna buy it, they'd have bought it by now. If they were waiting for WinMo 6.5, they could have released it as an update rather than making their clients wait while every other major phone company released it. Not to mention the fact that the "consortium" of US carriers have kept HTC from releasing unlocked versions for U.S. consumers. God forbid they didn't get their over-charging grubby hands on a few extra shekels. For the love of everything sacred, HTC is already leaking the HTC Leo and I have yet to see a TP2 outside of a T-Mobile showroom!
AT&T has lost it's focus and I'm at the point where waiting for them to get off their sorry butts to release a phone (of which they're going to screw up the hardware, let's be frank) has become a near impossibility and I'm about ready to jump ship.
That leads me to two questions: Who's with me and where the heck should I go?
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Ditto, Verizon (coverage and unlocked GSM sim card), sprint if they have good coverage in your area (4G),
I would have jumped ship if not for the fact that it would cost me a minimum of $30/month more on any other carrier compared to my grandfathered plan.
So in the meantime my Tilt is enough to keep me going, though my patience is very thin at this point. I just want to know a release date (price too would be nice). That would at least make the waiting more bearable knowing when it would end.
Leave AT&T cause they release a phone 2 months after others? Doubly a solid reason.
I like AT&T, I like their prices (I pay $20 for unlim internet, + $70 for 2 phones (700 mins)). Plus their rollover feature is cool, I got like 4.8K minutes accumulated (way too much I know).
Plus their customer service is awesome, they've repeatedly forgiven me $200-$300 on my account when I went way out of limit (about 4 years ago). My friend with Verizon was so jealous.
Just hang tight, AT&T's tilt 2 will be out in Nov '09.
So we already have a thread on T-Mo. Anyone have any in's on the true story of Sprint phones? will we have anything on release day?
My contract expired back in may and I've been biding my time waiting to see WP7...really want to make sure it will be worth my wait, and that Sprint doesn't delay and has quality phones.
Highly doubt you will see any CDMA phones this year.
Just check FCC
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Not to come accross as rude, but is this based on anything, or just guess work on your part?
We didn't know about some of the phones that are filling up the web today (based on FCC Info that was just released) a week ago, seems that the lack of information doesn't prove anything one way or another. If you your reply is more than a guess (and again, not trying to sound rude at all...i just want a Win Phone 7 toy as bad as everyone else), than I'd love to know the source of info, or even the fact that you can't give away the source.
There was the rumored "HTC Gold W" for Sprint...anything coming from that?
There's no reason to think that Sprint won't be carrying a WP7 device at launch, unlike Verizon.
From the things I've read GSM devices will get the 1st crack, and CDMA will come next year. It could just be the rumor-mill though.
I don't mind waiting though. I think I'll wait for Gen 2 or 3 devices. I'm hoping MS gets more chipset drivers coded, I'd like to see SnapDragon vs. Hummingbird vs. Tegra 2.
I wouldn't mind waiting if I wasn't in desperate need of a phone. In 4 months time, I'm on my second Vogue, and it now has a broken USB jack...seems to only charge when plugged into a pc usb port. This would be fine if i didn't have to rely on it for on-call pages overnight.
A lot of recent articles on the HTC Spark, and most claim it's supposed to have CDMA included, so we'll see.
Wanna bet?
No CDMA phones this year. To be honest I really don't know, but if T-MO gets a device first then Sprint won't get it until next year. Its been this way for some reason.
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From the things I've read GSM devices will get the 1st crack, and CDMA will come next year. It could just be the rumor-mill though.
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I think it's mostly just people talking out of their rear end. The Verizon rumors seem to have teeth but that shouldn't affect Sprint. It's not like a GSM phone will work on all the carriers worldwide anyways. They're pretty much always customized/modified and it really shouldn't be all that different for the OEMs to toss the CDMA radio chip in instead of the GSM chip.
vetvito said:
Wanna bet?
No CDMA phones this year. To be honest I really don't know, but if T-MO gets a device first then Sprint won't get it until next year. Its been this way for some reason.
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What's been this way? Sprint got the Evo 4G. Verizon got the Incredible. The Touch Pro was available on Sprint first in the states.
TMO got WM, year later Sprint got WM.
TMO got Android, year later Sprint got Android.
TMO gets WP7, year later Sprint gets....
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vetvito said:
TMO got WM, year later Sprint got WM.
TMO got Android, year later Sprint got Android.
TMO gets WP7, year later Sprint gets....
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What do events from many, many years ago and different OSes have to do with this? T-Mo got Android before anyone else, worldwide. At this point, there's just as much likelihood for Sprint to get a WP7 device on launch day as T-Mo. Leading the pack seems to be AT&T but there's no reason the others won't as well.
You're just looking at past events and assuming there's a connection to current events. Look at the reasons behind those events and you'll see that they simply don't apply here.
All I know is that a WP7 phone on the Sprint network would be perfect since the advanced hardware can really take advantage of the 4G network
I really believe Sprint would not be stupid enough to not get a WP7 device the minute launch day comes for the US. I do believe GSM gets the first crack since Europe is getting WP7 a month before the US, but after that we already have leaks of HTC based _W phones (World Phones like the Touch Pro 2 for those that do not know) and I would really think Sprint wants to pad their 4G with a 4G WP7 device as soon as they can. A device that can really use the whole offering 4G has to offer. (With streaming Netflix, Intigrated Zune, and XBLive, as long as they do not gimp the phones like ATT does with the iPhone).
Why AT&T continues to get countless new phones is beyond me. They can't handle the iPhone data useage alone let alone all the Android + iPhone + future WP7 Traffic they are going to get.
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Our source says that the fallout from this troubled partnership is that Microsoft has backed away from Verizon as a Windows Phone 7 launch partner, claiming that the first handsets you see won't be offered on the CDMA carrier -- rather that we should expect GSM partners to get first crack.
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Here's something from engadget that speaks of some "source"...It's all hearsay, but I can see that happening.
I refuse to believe that comment about Europe getting WP7 first statement. It wasn't really made in an official statement but sorta off the cuff by a senior exec who likely isn't intimately familiar with the launch. It would go against Microsoft's entire history, both recent and further back, of USA first. At most, Europe will get it at the same time which would be a big deal for Microsoft since they normally forget about the rest of the world.
At least I hope I'm right lol. The only reason I can think of is some sort of regulatory or carrier issues that would cause them to delay it here.
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I refuse to believe that comment about Europe getting WP7 first statement. It wasn't really made in an official statement but sorta off the cuff by a senior exec who likely isn't intimately familiar with the launch. It would go against Microsoft's entire history, both recent and further back, of USA first. At most, Europe will get it at the same time which would be a big deal for Microsoft since they normally forget about the rest of the world.
At least I hope I'm right lol. The only reason I can think of is some sort of regulatory or carrier issues that would cause them to delay it here.
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US is usually slower on Cell Technologies though, so it's perfectly plausible given the environment.
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US is usually slower on Cell Technologies though, so it's perfectly plausible given the environment.
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Not sure what you're really referring to exactly but how would that apply to a new OS made by an American company?
MS has teams all around the world.
We are behind in cell technologies, hell some people here think the iphone 4 is the first phone with video chat.
Where have all the leaks been coming from? Sure wasn't the US.
I hate it, but we are behind.
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MS has teams all around the world.
We are behind in cell technologies, hell some people here think the iphone 4 is the first phone with video chat.
Where have all the leaks been coming from? Sure wasn't the US.
I hate it, but we are behind.
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Yea, our networks are behind (and that's not really 100%, we have broader 4G deployment). But we're not behind on software. iPhone was launched here first as was Android. There's no reason that WP7 isn't launched here if not ahead of the rest, at least at the same time. MSFT doesn't even have the Zune store available abroad yet.
Iphone team is here in the US, so are all the iphone leaks.
The Android team is here in the US, Android was a company here in the US before being purchased by Google .
MS teams are all around the world. That's why if you ask a WP7 spoke person about specific parts of the OS, they don't have a clue. Or specific release dates, they don't have a clue.
We're at a point now to where we would have seen a CDMA leak, especially for Sprint.
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Iphone team is here in the US, so are all the iphone leaks.
The Android team is here in the US, Android was a company here in the US before being purchased by Google .
MS teams are all around the world. That's why if you ask a WP7 spoke person about specific parts of the OS, they don't have a clue. Or specific release dates, they don't have a clue.
We're at a point now to where we would have seen a CDMA leak, especially for Sprint.
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Ummmm MS is 99% in the US. Next largest is a team in India but they mostly did the emulator if I'm not mistaken. If you don't get an answer from a spokesperson it's because they're not allowed to talk about it or they're not a developer or even a technical person so they really don't have any clue about it in general. They very well might not know the release dates because Microsoft doesn't want anything leaked. It's a "need to know" situation. The people that do know sure as hell aren't just going to run around telling people because they don't want to lose their job. Nothing you've said has anything to do with a CDMA device coming/not coming to Sprint at launch. It doesn't even qualify as circumstantial evidence.
I want a WP7 so badly on Verizon. To have all my services (Xbox Live, Zune Pass, Netflix) on one phone is what I have been waiting for years now. Since I don't want to miss out on hacking I probably will get a Android tablet this year. But yeah hurry up VZW!
wait for it...
you'll want to wait for some upgrades so you can use data and voice at the same time...
imagine the buyers remorse of all those iphone users in a month or so...
I may be the minority but I barely talk on my phone and I use it all the time
Hang in there for a little while longer. I'm a live/zunepass user as well and having everything in one device has been great. If I want to send a message on xblive I just use the phone rather than the controller. You already know how great zunepass is, now I have one less device to carry.
Soon it will be yours!
CDMA support is in this coming update and the phones will be released shortly after. I think you will be seeing it sooner rather than later.
I want a WINDOW PHONE 7 NOW NOT 6 MONTHS FROM NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, I was yelling !!!!
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I want a WINDOW PHONE 7 NOW NOT 6 MONTHS FROM NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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How about six days? They are clearly not going to release a WP7 phone for Verizon in six months. It will be WAY earlier.
don't be in such a rush. i was at tmobile and verizon last night in the mall and both are just pushing android devices. verizon is also advertising the heck out of the iphone now.
tmobile only had one hd7 out and they told me it is not selling well at all. they didn't even have the dell venue at all.
i got to play with the hd7 and while the design is great the os lacks very much. too simple for a high end user and tweaker such as myself.
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CDMA support is in this coming update and the phones will be released shortly after. I think you will be seeing it sooner rather than later.
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verizon will push droid & the iphone, trust me.
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How about six days? They are clearly not going to release a WP7 phone for Verizon in six months. It will be WAY earlier.
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Trust me, I have been keeping up with the news...
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/2032404-post11.html
My post.
Everything so far points to before the end of Feb (before/after the Cut&paste update comes) but, other reports say by then end of Jan. Others say any day now. So, no one has a phuck'n clue so far. No one is saying anything nor even hinting. I even have people in 5 Verizon stores who will text me when they know something and they don't know anything as of yet.
I'm sure by at least mid Feb we'll have one or at least know when we will get one.
I'll take one in 6 days if you can prove it.
Verizon WP7 by summer. IPhone will rule.
My bet is that Sprint will release a WP7 phone before Verizon.
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tmobile only had one hd7 out and they told me it is not selling well at all. they didn't even have the dell venue at all.
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The Venue Pro is only sold at the Microsoft store (there are only a few nationwide) or by ordering from Dell's website. It has T-Mobile 3G bands and that is about it.
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verizon will push droid & the iphone, trust me.
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Yeah, and AT&T sort of pushed the iPhone. They still sold the BlackBerry Torch upon launch. I think they are pushing WP7 now since they seem to be the only carrier with commercials.
I think Sprint will release their WP7 phone(s) before VZW.
So far, the only phone I've heard that is coming to VZW is the HTC Trophy (?), a super-generic (about) 3.6" touch screen phone.
The only WP7 phone out now that I want is the HTC 7 Pro. That will be coming to Sprint, and my fingers are crossed that VZW picks it up also since there will be a CDMA version already.
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So far, the only phone I've heard that is coming to VZW is the HTC Trophy (?), a super-generic (about) 3.6" touch screen phone.
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I really don't think that Verizon will get the short end of the straw for WP7. Something tells me that they might offer the some sort of Omnia device (maybe the Omnia with the keyboard). But I am just guessing because they offered Samsung Omnia phones in the past.
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you'll want to wait for some upgrades so you can use data and voice at the same time...
imagine the buyers remorse of all those iphone users in a month or so...
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and how often does that come up??? And most times I try, even on 3g, if I wasn't already using the data, it tells me that I can't because I'm not on 3g (even though I am). There's a reason verizon is number 1, consistent data and voice services that don't cut out on you.
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don't be in such a rush. i was at tmobile and verizon last night in the mall and both are just pushing android devices. verizon is also advertising the heck out of the iphone now.
tmobile only had one hd7 out and they told me it is not selling well at all. they didn't even have the dell venue at all.
i got to play with the hd7 and while the design is great the os lacks very much. too simple for a high end user and tweaker such as myself.
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ummm, no DVP's in t-mobile locations, only at MS stores (what are there, like 2 of those in the whole country) and online through dell and MS.
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I think Sprint will release their WP7 phone(s) before VZW.
So far, the only phone I've heard that is coming to VZW is the HTC Trophy (?), a super-generic (about) 3.6" touch screen phone.
The only WP7 phone out now that I want is the HTC 7 Pro. That will be coming to Sprint, and my fingers are crossed that VZW picks it up also since there will be a CDMA version already.
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http://mobilitydigest.com/windows-phone-7-updates-from-ces-2011/
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· Look for the HTC Mozart and the Samsung Omnia to be the two launch CDMA devices. It’s unclear as to whether both will be available on Sprint and Verizon, but the devices are confirmed for the respective launches.
Nothing about the Trophy or Pro 7 on launch, but, take this with a grain of salt... Who knows for sure.
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Nothing about the Trophy or Pro 7 on launch, but, take this with a grain of salt... Who knows for sure.
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The Pro 7 has a Sprint logo on the top next to the speaker.
Last week I noticed that they discontinued their providing of the LG Quantum, and just now I was on there and see that they have also discontinued the HD7. No wp7/wp7.5 choices at all at the moment.
I can never for the life of me find out future phones coming to Canadian providers, so I'm not sure if they're making way for the Titan et al, or if they've just given up.
Must be temporary
Chad Saliba, Portfolia Collaboration Manager for Nokia Canada told MobileSyrup that in 2012 multiple Windows Phone devices will be released in Canada, across multiple price points and on several carriers, including Rogers, Telus and Bell, who are all sourcing Windows Phone 7 handsets.
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Thanks for posting that, good to see that.
I just hope it's true and the don't back out or something.
It's kind of weird, I don't think any Canadian carrier has announced any second gen devices yet, have they?
Not that I've heard. However I do know that we're always behind other countries. What's new to the US or UK, generally shows up... I'd say... 3-6 months afterwards?
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Not that I've heard. However I do know that we're always behind other countries. What's new to the US or UK, generally shows up... I'd say... 3-6 months afterwards?
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Used to be the case - now we routinely get devices before the US. For example, Galaxy S II.
In the UK, only one carrier (Orange) is offering a WP7.5 phone (the HTC Radar), O2 still have the Mozart and HD7, nothing on Vodafone, nothing on 3. Naturally, they are all going big on the Iphone 4s which will no doubt result in queues in every mall in the country, If you want WP7.5 in the UK now, you pretyy much have to go with a 1st gen handset on contratc or buy your own SIM free (which is what I did). Microsoft really need to sort this out, most people here go to the carriers for their phones and get them on contract - they are never going to see Windows phone at this rate let alone buy into the platform.
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It's kind of weird, I don't think any Canadian carrier has announced any second gen devices yet, have they?
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How many 2nd gen devices are there? 2? I seriously doubt a lot of carriers will stock the Titan. It's way too much money to spend on a Windows Phone when a year old model can do the exact same things. Only a serious fanboy would buy it and WP currently has very few of them.
The other is Radar, which would have slipped past their radar in the midst of all the spanking new Android devices. You can't blame carriers for not carrying any WP7 phones when there aren't any to stock. Mozart, HD7, Trophy are old and outdated.
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In the UK, only one carrier (Orange) is offering a WP7.5 phone (the HTC Radar), O2 still have the Mozart and HD7, nothing on Vodafone, nothing on 3. Naturally, they are all going big on the Iphone 4s which will no doubt result in queues in every mall in the country, If you want WP7.5 in the UK now, you pretyy much have to go with a 1st gen handset on contratc or buy your own SIM free (which is what I did). Microsoft really need to sort this out, most people here go to the carriers for their phones and get them on contract - they are never going to see Windows phone at this rate let alone buy into the platform.
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Vodafone are still showing the Optimus for sale. Interesting to see that Orange are no longer showing the Omnia 7 either...
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Vodafone are still showing the Optimus for sale. Interesting to see that Orange are no longer showing the Omnia 7 either...
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Oops, missed that one,
Given the price I got my LG Quantum for, I don't think they sold a lot when it came out. At $80 though, it's a steal.
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Used to be the case - now we routinely get devices before the US. For example, Galaxy S II.
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That depends on how much changes are made to the reference design by the carriers. If all they have to do is change the radio bands, then of course it will come much faster there than here. Carriers here like to have a bit more freedom with the cell phone design than in Canada.
Sad that we still have no mention of any WP7 new phones coming out of Bell (or any of the providers in Canada).
Next to no marketing of them I guess doens't help.
Everyone I show my phone to loves it...need another one for work and would rather not get an iphone...
I really don't want to wait for 2012.
has anyone contacted Bell to see if the LG quantum will be getting the tethering firmware update?
the stores in my area have no wp7 phones at all..
LG quantum is selling at WalMart for 120 as a pay as you go phone.
It sucks that they are pushing customers away from wp7.
They're probably waiting on new phones.
It's funny...the latest Futureshop cellphone advertisement "booklet" in the local paper has pages upon pages of android phones and blackberries but no wp7 phones...however, Microsoft have a big advertisement at the end about WP7...
What a waste of f'ing money...why advertise something you don't even sell in Canada.
Microsoft is doing a terrible job with this phone in Canada...horrible...you cannot buy a wp7 phone even if you want to...
What a f'ing joke.
Has there been any rumors/whispers/overheard a conversation in the bathroom news of any future WP7 phones that may be coming to sprint?
Sprint will launch a new Windows Phone about a month after Apollo RTM. You are looking at September period.
The device will feature Snapdragon MSM8960 and LTE.
Source: The Verge
Sprint's network currently sucks too bad to support any kind of phone.
Maybe it will change in the future.
This is a bummer. I'm on Sprint now with only the HTC Arrive and I do want to stay on it. Unfortunately I've been sold on the Nokia Lumia 900 so I'm gonna jump over to AT&T once that's out.
Kinda annoyed that both Sprint and Verizon both have exactly 1 Windows Phone. Seriously lame.
While Sprint may be releasing an LTE "Windows Phone 8" device in September, I'll believe it when I see it. Either way, they are so far behind in LTE that it would take a few years for it to be readily available around the country.
I've been with Sprint for about 4 years, and ditched them today for the Lumia 900 and AT&T (pre-ordered). Sprint has shown ZERO support for Windows Phone since it's launch. I remember being laughed at for trying to get the $50 pre-order gift card for my HTC Arrive when it launched last March.
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I've been with Sprint for about 4 years, and ditched them today for the Lumia 900 and AT&T (pre-ordered). Sprint has shown ZERO support for Windows Phone since it's launch. I remember being laughed at for trying to get the $50 pre-order gift card for my HTC Arrive when it launched last March.
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I hate to admit it, but I've been thinking of leaving Sprint for the Lumia 900 too after their lack of support for the Arrive. I'm trying my hardest to hold out though, I don't want to feel buyer's remorse when I see the snazzy new Apollo-based handsets come out a few months later. I know I'll want one of those instead simply because it's new.
I also went to my local Sprint store and asked about that $50 pre-order and nobody had a clue what I was talking about. They eventually called the manager who told me there was no need to pre-order and to just show up on the Sunday release date because there wouldn't be any lines or sell-outs for a Windows Phone. I'm glad I followed his advice because I saved $100 by ordering from Wirefly and still got it within days after it was released.
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I hate to admit it, but I've been thinking of leaving Sprint for the Lumia 900 too after their lack of support for the Arrive. I'm trying my hardest to hold out though, I don't want to feel buyer's remorse when I see the snazzy new Apollo-based handsets come out a few months later. I know I'll want one of those instead simply because it's new.
I also went to my local Sprint store and asked about that $50 pre-order and nobody had a clue what I was talking about. They eventually called the manager who told me there was no need to pre-order and to just show up on the Sunday release date because there wouldn't be any lines or sell-outs for a Windows Phone. I'm glad I followed his advice because I saved $100 by ordering from Wirefly and still got it within days after it was released.
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you'll probably feel wallet remorse before you feel buyers remorse.
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This is a bummer. I'm on Sprint now with only the HTC Arrive and I do want to stay on it. Unfortunately I've been sold on the Nokia Lumia 900 so I'm gonna jump over to AT&T once that's out.
Kinda annoyed that both Sprint and Verizon both have exactly 1 Windows Phone. Seriously lame.
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I may be reaching a bit but I think Microsoft may be party to blame here, if you remember Windows Phone didnt have ANY CDMA support when it was initially released in November 2010, it wasnt until 6 months later when the Arrive came out that there was a CDMA windows phone anywhere maybe if there was CDMA and GSM support in the beginning Sprint and Verizon would have put in more effort
Meh. Sprint and Verizon chose to use, and keep using, a cellular technology that very little of the rest of the world uses (some in China, and I few other countries, but the majority is overwhelmingly GSM). NoDo wasn't *that* long in coming, and it's been more than a year since it shipped. At the rate that phones come out these days, that's plenty of time.
I have no problem with sprint releasing another EVDO WP.. So long as I continue paying $40/mnth
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Meh. Sprint and Verizon chose to use, and keep using, a cellular technology that very little of the rest of the world uses (some in China, and I few other countries, but the majority is overwhelmingly GSM). NoDo wasn't *that* long in coming, and it's been more than a year since it shipped. At the rate that phones come out these days, that's plenty of time.
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I totally agree. Pre-orderer the Nokia Lumia 900 and am saying bye to Sprint. Thanks for the low cost plans Sprint but you guys suck when it comes to having actual good phones.
I really love the Lumia 900 but I went to price plans with AT&T and it costs almost 40% more than what I have with sprint, not to mention the fact that data is capped. I'm definitely frustrated with Sprint's lack of focus with 4G and WP7 but 40% is 40%.
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I may be reaching a bit but I think Microsoft may be party to blame here, if you remember Windows Phone didnt have ANY CDMA support when it was initially released in November 2010, it wasnt until 6 months later when the Arrive came out that there was a CDMA windows phone anywhere maybe if there was CDMA and GSM support in the beginning Sprint and Verizon would have put in more effort
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I will agree that Microsoft was partly to blame for the INITIAL sludge in to the CDMA market with Sprint and Verizon... however, it has been nearly 13 months now since the Trophy and Arrive were released on the two carriers. There is further opportunity for new devices, but both Verizon and Sprint have put their marketing focus behind iPhone (and some Android).
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I really love the Lumia 900 but I went to price plans with AT&T and it costs almost 40% more than what I have with sprint, not to mention the fact that data is capped. I'm definitely frustrated with Sprint's lack of focus with 4G and WP7 but 40% is 40%.
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My problem with Sprint isn't the price, it is the speed and availability. I travel weekly, and have resorted to carrying a back-up phone (Samsung Focus unlocked on T-Mobile) due to limited service and speed on Sprint's network. Sprint is perfectly fine in major metropolitan areas, but smaller cities (like Fort Wayne, IN where I was last week) leaves a lot to be desired.
If and when Sprint decides to make the jump to LTE, they are going to be at least 12-18 months behind the competition in network expansion. I'm more than happy to pay a premium price for a premium service.
Sprint has always been good to me. It sucks they only have one wp7 phone but for some reason cherish the iPhone.
I have been with sprint for almost 10 years now. In the last 2 years I have seen them add a $10 fee per smart phone(on a family plan that is an extra $50 a month), they increased the cost of my additional lines, they have taken away the premiere program, while in a 4G city I can't get 4g, and their their 3g speeds gotten have extremely slow. I would like to stay with sprint because it is a big hardware investment to switch carriers but sprint hasn't made it very easy for me. Now they are lacking in the windows phone offereings. I have a couple of Zune HD users in my house and they really want a WP7 phone but are not pleased with the idea of the arrive. I think sprint was banking too much on the iphone giving them a jump start because of their unlimited data but it has panned out as well as they had hoped. I think this is why why they have ignored the WP7 platform.
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Sprint has always been good to me. It sucks they only have one wp7 phone but for some reason cherish the iPhone.
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Not surprising. I'm sure they want to play the "wait and see" game after the Palm Pre didn't do as well as they hoped and they want to go with something that has already proven successful on other carriers.
I would've stayed with sprint but their 3G speeds were getting far too unbearable here in Chicago and the suburbs, plus so many broken promises on when they would fix the towers,it just wasn't worth the $97 I was paying,now with T-mobile I get 10GB of full speed, 500 talk,unlimited text for $100 and my speeds are better than they ever were on sprint, even my throttled speeds are faster than sprint.
Sprint has a LG phone on the way. Its been articles on the net today.
AT&T is way over priced.
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Sprint has a LG phone on the way. Its been articles on the net today.
AT&T is way over priced.
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Is the LG phone gonna be better than the Nokia Lumia 900?