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I changed my HTC device with an Apple Iphone..the major thing I miss is the XDA developers forum ... In the future can we (about 5000k people..) at least hope to have one ? cheers....
probably not, this forum is for ms pda's (mainly htc), notice not much talk of palm devices either you'll probably have to find other forums that discuss the iphone cuz ive noticed not many people on this forum even like the word iphone unless its getting bashed. so good luck but i wouldnt look forward to it
I heard Apple is releasing the dev kit for the iPhone...so people can start writing their own apps for the phone. Also heard something about being able to run webapps offline.
I'm sure the iPhone forums will take off as soon as people start developing for the iPhone.
yeah it's true. tomorrow for the devkit !
If it's not made by HTC you won't get it through the door. There'll be sites-a-pleanty once a devkit is out but probably none as good as this. I wonder if Apple will set about having them shut down? You can't have people using their own property for anything they want you know.....
another issue is that apple use objectC rather then c++ or c# or even old c or poorly VB
and objectC is a world apart from the other languages
HTC
vicer said:
I changed my HTC device with an Apple Iphone..the major thing I miss is the XDA developers forum ... In the future can we (about 5000k people..) at least hope to have one ? cheers....
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This is really an HTC only forum.
Sorry to plug, but forums.macrumors.com has a pretty good iPhone/iPhone Hacking Community.
Hey!
A little Definion about "XDA":
"The [O2] Xda brand is a range of O2-branded Windows Mobile PDA phones, produced by multiple manufacturers (mainly HTC, Quanta and Erima). The first model was released in June 2002. The "X" represents convergence of voice and information/data within one product; the "da" stands for "digital assistant", as in PDA."
I think this forum should be specified in Windows Mobile. The iPhone isn't a productively device on the market! And the people who buy this expensive "Fun-Gadget" doesn't use it to develop something on it.
"The iPhone is a dust-bin: It can look beautiful, but the contents are rubbish."
Sorry for my bad English! Greetz
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"The iPhone is a dust-bin: It can look beautiful, but the contents are rubbish."
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I have to second this motion.... +2
XDA is a HTC community, you have other places.
Howard forums
hackint0sh
Google can help to find more. I am giving you some than give fast responses.
Rubbish??
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What part of the contents are rubbish? Just wondering becuase I just got a good deal on a 16gb and I cant find flaws. BTW, I purchased it to resell it becuase it was way too cheap. Not to mention, it would give me a chance to see what all the hype was about. Let me tell you...I know why so many devs on xda are trying to emulate some of the features and charecteristics of the iphone. Bcuase it is the best phone/handheld device that I have ever played with.
In my idea, not to go into all of the greatness of the iphone in my opinion, but if I can buy a 16gb for $400 (unlocked to use with any gsm carrier), $5.99 T-ZOne hack and many other cool things like SNES, NES with each having about 100 or so games etc. and the abilty to add 12 movies and over 700 songs and still have over 7gb to play with and still running like lightning.......my mind is made up.
DOnt let me forget about the accelorometer and the games that are available that utilize the accelorometer.
Please tell me where the rubbish is.
Oh and BTW, I am locked in my Verizon contract for another couple of months on my 6700 so I cant %100 test the calling capabilities yet as I have not hooked this one up.
I just saw that Meego has been ported to the HTC Desire, Nexus One, and Dell Streak and was wondering if it would be possible to also get it on the EVO. Here is the website that I found it on.
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/09/27/install-meego-dell-streak-nexus-one-htc-desire/
id also be very interested in this, ive heard very good things said about the os on multiple sites such as engadget and have just heard overall its a cool os, would like to see it on the evo
I would also love a port of this.....here's hoping.
still no info on this? any devs willing to put in the time? id love to if i knew how lol
found this for the nexus one, hopefully it helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764255&highlight=meego
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Rebump. And more info if it helps interest anyone: Meego Wiki
Bump +1 Would love to have it.
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Nobody? It would be fun to play with
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Im interested in playing with this new Meego. Anybody else here seen this
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/21/nokia-n9-first-hands-on/
That article is probably the reason there have been three bumps for this thread since it was published.
I've decided that I may have to abandon Android for that phone, regardless of Nokia's support for it (or lack thereof). The best part is that you aren't confined to either GSM or CDMA networks. The radio supports every possible frequency, as far as I can tell.
And anyone who complains about the hardware not being up to spec hasn't seen the hands-on videos. It looks so smooth. Plus, the N900 is still holding its own after 2 years.
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That article is probably the reason there have been three bumps for this thread since it was published.
I've decided that I may have to abandon Android for that phone, regardless of Nokia's support for it (or lack thereof). The best part is that you aren't confined to either GSM or CDMA networks. The radio supports every possible frequency, as far as I can tell.
And anyone who complains about the hardware not being up to spec hasn't seen the hands-on videos. It looks so smooth. Plus, the N900 is still holding its own after 2 years.
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I'm on sprint and I saw the radios, but I somehow doubt it could be activated on any US CDMA carrier. If it can though I think I'd give Meego and the N9 a shot
As Windows Phone 7 was launched today we wanted to put up a poll based on general perception of the device. If you could buy one today, money not being an issue, would you? We want to see whether Windows phone 7 has been received well by the community.
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Wow first one to vote, maybe im just abit excited lol.
Omnia 7 is at the top of my list atm. GSMARENA has a good review of the device already (no idea how they got hold of it)
Im gonna hang on to my current device and by a WP7 phone when they start coming out with a second line of phones.
just bought my desire. WinMo 7 doesn't look too customizable, but only time will tell
Former long time windows mobile user, not impressed, Ill stick with my EVO for now.
Going to get a better Android phone I think... probably Samsung Epic 4G now or Evo (more than the WP7) ones now.
Once I see multiple calendar support, we'll talk. As for now: never.
Like a lot of people here, I have a HTC HD2 and am running WM6.5 and Android 2.2 on it. So, for me, I'll consider a WP7 device once my HD2 either dies (let's pray it never happens) or maybe in 6-12months when it's time for an upgrade.
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Like a lot of people here, I have a HTC HD2 and am running WM6.5 and Android 2.2 on it. So, for me, I'll consider a WP7 device once my HD2 either dies (let's pray it never happens) or maybe in 6-12months when it's time for an upgrade.
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Me too.... HD2 forever
Our beloved HD2s can run any OS so why switch to WP7 when the HD2 already runs it (Not public yet!)
The hardware in most (currently presented) WP7 devices is as good as our HD2's
So.. maybe I will buy one if the hardware is superior to the HD2's!!!
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Once I see multiple calendar support, we'll talk. As for now: never.
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Um, there is multiple calendar support.
Looks great to me, especially the Dell Venue Pro.
Sure, why not. Every HTC phone that I have had was Windows. Why would I give up now? I have played with the HTC EVO running Android, and I do not like it. I prefer Windows. That is my own personal opinion and choice from experience, and somewhat from what I have spoken with other people who have Android phones from different manufactures, which I have personaly tried and played with for a while with each and every one of them.
I just prefer Windows over anything else.
maybe and unsure is about the same.
im hoping it can be ported to the hd2. that'll save me some money
for sure i will buy the WP7 phone HD7 i think... as i am HTC fan as well as WM.
Not at this time. I love the interface. I just don't like the rest of the story. The system just locks you in. Perhaps if could be jailbroken, that would change things.
Well I got the HTC Desire on Android 2.2 and thus far I don't see anything I prefer in the Win 7 phones that would make me switch. If anything it has less functionality at present with no cut & paste, no tethering and no SD card. I do like some of the features though but will wait and see how they develop this, so for now it's a no.
I think Microsoft has missed a trick with the launch of WP7, by basing the OS entirely for phone devices. As with Android it can be used not only on phones but tablets as well and judging by how the community response to the Sammy Tab is high with enthusiasm i think MS should have looked further forward than just Windows 'Phone' 7 and evolved further ahead with appying its new OS to tablets as well, even if not making it available now but atleast showing a mock up to show its potential of being more than just a phone OS.
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Well I got the HTC Desire on Android 2.2 and thus far I don't see anything I prefer in the Win 7 phones that would make me switch. If anything it has less functionality at present with no cut & paste, no tethering and no SD card. I do like some of the features though but will wait and see how they develop this, so for now it's a no.
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What?!? no cut & paste and no sd cards? where can I read up on WP7 features?
Also long time and big time WinMo fan, but I got the EVO and after rooting it, nothing can come close. Win7 simply went the way of iPhone, by locking everything down, so even if it weren't for the rooted EVO being so damned awesome and far above every other phone out there, I wouldn't get a Win7 phone out of iPhone-hatin' spite.
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Okay, so, when windows phone 7 was new I was the biggest android fanboy out there. I would not give anything else a second glance. I went in the t-mobile store to get my wife a vibrant 4g and she was interested in the HD7, I pushed her away from what I, at the time, thought was rubbish software on even lesser hardware. I looked at it for a few seconds, made a mockery of the fact that there was no ability to change background images, and she got the vibrant4g. Now, I own way to many phones for one person as Craigslist fishing for phones is somewhat a hobby of mine and one day I found a guy who wanted to trade any pair of the same model smartphone for his HD7. I had a pair of NIB behold 2s that someone had given me for 150 dollars so i offered and he accepted. Prior to this I was using daily a vibrant 4g and a mytouch 4g for work and personal lines. I decided to try out wp7, just give it one day and if not, hey, i could sell it for a profit. I went into the arrangement biased and completely pro-android. I was begging for something to hate. I used it for a few hours, purchased one game (need for speed), and set up my Netflix and such. As much as I wanted to hate it, I couldn't. The out of the box experience was better than anything I could ever set up on android. The social integration, even in It's early stages, was remarkable. The UI was fluid which, while it never bothered me when I was a fandroid, has made it impossible for me to have a pleasant experience with android since. Within 2 days I'd placed an order for a dell venue pro, windows phone just wowed me. About 2 weeks later i found another epic deal on Craigslist and got a dell streak for 140 dollars and android, regardless of root, version, under locking, rom, etc was just too slow for me now.
Today, I still have the latest android hardware for development purposes, I have a galaxy S2 in a junk drawer, but windows phone has shown me what a user experience should be.
You have told this story before and I can only see this post a flame bait.
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It is flame bait in my opinion. But hey only an "imbecile" would try to argue an opinion and acknowledge himself to be in possession of the "right opinion".
I have to say though that WP7 did excite me at first both at announcement and during testing, and it still appeals to me now. But I eventually thought about what I usually used my phone for and came to the realization that android would better suit my needs than WP7.
I loaded wp7 on my hd2, and the only reason I took it off was because of the HD2 power button killing the touchscreen and seeing as how that is the only way to wake the HD2 from sleep WP7 had to go. But I agree that wp7 is a great user experience, and as soon as the hardware is there that supports. video calling I'll probably be getting a native wp7 handset. That and a good navigation app or bing navigation like I had on my HD2 with wm6.5. I still like the fact that I can swap sd cards on my android, but I can probably live with that limitation with wp7, after all, millions of iphone users have.
I run andorid but I do love the minimalist style of wp7. It seems fluid and the system font that they use, segoe UI is gorgeous.
I'm still an android fanboy, and I've been getting my fix of windows phone 7 by using Ubermusic or Zplayer
Another website that tries to bring wp7 to android is wp7android.com
It seems to be well developed, but I still have yet to buy some of the apps from the website.
If any of you guys have already purchased something from there, let me know how the apps are running!
What's a good WP7 phone that's out right now that is considered higher end? I'm actually looking to get one for they wifey, she likes the way it looks apparently.
At the moment she is using a HTC Sensation.
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The HTC titan is the best out I think, with a 2nd gen snapdragon clocking at 1.5ghz. But it is 4.7" so your lady might be overwhelmed. The HTC radar would be a better bet with its 3.8" screen with the same 2nd gen snapdragon but clocking at 1ghz instead.
Your situation sounds exactly like mine going into trying WP7. Except after using my HD7 I missed everything about Android. WP7 was completely usable and very smooth but just so bloody boring. ZunePass was the only streaming music available and Rhapsody for Android blows the doors off that for cheaper. I use wifi tether, I like voice navigation, I like live wallpapers, I like widgets and customizable icons, I like the app selection of the Market, I like decent battery life, I like one click access to certain areas of my settings, I like the ability to change launchers or ROMs when I need to change something up. I like the window animations and the CRT effect, I like google docs and the ability to choose a browser that looks and functions the way I want it. I could go on... Look guy, WP7 is nice and perfect for people upgrading from a basic phone into the smart phone world. I would sell so many WP7 devices if my store carried them because of all the old people trying to keep up with the times on smart phones that are easy to use and learn on. But, it's just not Android caliber. The only redeeming quality is the kick ass hardware some WP7 phones have.
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Understandable statement until the trolling began. The features listed, minus the battery life one which made no sense as wp7 lasts twice as long as android on the same hardware due to the optimization. Calling it not "android caliber" though just seems trollish as while it doesn't have all the customization, it doesn't have all of the shortcomings that entails either.
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Understandable statement until the trolling began. The features listed, minus the battery life one which made no sense as wp7 lasts twice as long as android on the same hardware due to the optimization. Calling it not "android caliber" though just seems trollish as while it doesn't have all the customization, it doesn't have all of the shortcomings that entails either.
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Trolling is starting the same thread every couple days in an Android dominated forum... I have only used one WP7 device and the battery was worse than any Android I've ever owned. That's just my experience.
Not being Android caliber is not an opinion. Look at the market share. WP7 has all the advantages that Android has in regard to carrier and hardware choice, yet it hadn't scratched the surface or shown the growth potential. You are just calling the kettle black, Mr. Pot.
And to say WP7 is better because it doesn't have the shortcomings Android has since Android has miles more features is like saying prison is better since it doesn't have all the shortcomings freedom has. Enjoy prison, kid.
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Actually, it's more like stating that the life of a wealthy shut-in is as enjoyable as that of a poor free man as it's largely a matter of quality.
Windows phone ha# been out one year right about this time. Android was pretty much non-existent after their first year. Give it time, windows came a lot further in their first year than any other OS.
Your "android-caliber" argument has nothing to do with quality. Considering that anything can run android it'd be comical if they weren't number one, especially considering most carriers charge at least 9.99 for a basic flip phone while giving out android phones free with a contract.
I'll gladly give it time. More old people will buy them and they will grow to like 15% of the market. The problem is, while WP7 looks different, there is already a dumb smartphone OS on the market, iOS. WP7 can only hope to compete with them as they are the only other ones pandering to the lowest common denominator. Dumb people return Android devices to me all the time saying it's too complicated and they want an iPhone. In a year I'll see a few of those people returning Androids to get a WP7 device instead because (hopefully) Microsoft will spend a few bucks in marketing.
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I'll gladly give it time. More old people will buy them and they will grow to like 15% of the market. The problem is, while WP7 looks different, there is already a dumb smartphone OS on the market, iOS. WP7 can only hope to compete with them as they are the only other ones pandering to the lowest common denominator. Dumb people return Android devices to me all the time saying it's too complicated and they want an iPhone. In a year I'll see a few of those people returning Androids to get a WP7 device instead because (hopefully) Microsoft will spend a few bucks in marketing.
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This is exactly why WM7 will never succeed. People who need that type of phone will always go for the secure and safe bet, one they already know about, the iPhone.
I was hoping MS would recognize what they needed to do to help WM7, but they seem to refuse to.
How many tech-minded people do you think there are? People dont buy more iPhones because they're not available everywhere and to everyone, not because they can't root them. A small number of people dont buy them because the larger screen appeals more to them which is something wp7 can offer. People don't by android for it's quality. They buy it for it's availability. That was made abundantly clear when I went from working for att to working for t-mobile.
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How many tech-minded people do you think there are? People dont buy more iPhones because they're not available everywhere and to everyone, not because they can't root them. A small number of people dont buy them because the larger screen appeals more to them which is something wp7 can offer. People don't by android for it's quality. They buy it for it's availability. That was made abundantly clear when I went from working for att to working for t-mobile.
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And the slight resemblance to an iOS UI with icons and such which gives them a sort of familiarity.
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How many tech-minded people do you think there are? People dont buy more iPhones because they're not available everywhere and to everyone, not because they can't root them. A small number of people dont buy them because the larger screen appeals more to them which is something wp7 can offer. People don't by android for it's quality. They buy it for it's availability. That was made abundantly clear when I went from working for att to working for t-mobile.
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iPhone is available on Verizon and AT&T, the combined number of subscribers which completely dwarf all the other carriers. Millions of users are even using them on T-Mobile. The iPhone is available to whoever honestly wants it. A lot people buy Android because everyone carries and because the platform is easy, works well and is popular.
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Its not AS easy, doesn't work AS well, and isn't AS popular as iOS (despite market share a poll that I dont feel like digging up from my phone showed that a pretty hefty number of people thought that when they bought an HTC phone they were getting HTC OS, same with Samsung and other carriers.) I'd like to see a poll showing how many people who have android actually even know that they're using android. They would know, however if they were using iOS so there's popularity out the window. At&t and Verizon are two of the toughest carriers to get on. When I was 17 and had no credit established ATT and Verizon both expected several-hundred dollar deposits on top of the price of the phone where Alltel, t-mobile, and sprint were more than happy to get me going. I picked T-mobile for the sim slot of course. Buying an iPhone outright to work on any of these carriers is a hefty price to pay, one the general consensus can't afford for a phone so there's that. As far as easy goes, it's the toughest platform to use out of the box hands down.
Well my argument might be invalid in some aspects, but judging from the fact that in my country the OS population here is BBOS and a minority with iOS, and when i show my phone to someone they can tell that it is an android phone, I think that speaks to the popularity, especially considering the fact that I live in a third world/"developing country".
I dont think that invalidates your point at all, though I feel as though, while younger and more adept people know these things, your average user, at least stateside, is at a loss if they're using android. Like I said, when i worked for both att and t-mobile a pretty hefty portion of the clientel would tell me that they didn't know what their OS was or that it was HTC, Samsung, etc. With ios and such the uniformity keeps it clear.
You're makeing one major mistake though Zee, not everyone has trouble getting to grips with Android like you have, if they did it wouldn't have such a large global market share. Try as you might, you can't argue against that with any validity.
Hey guys! I was reading an article that shows a M8 running windows mobile 8. I saw it pop up on multiple sites so it must be really comming. I was just wondering what if the device had the same specs as ours. Doesn't that nean that in the future we may be able to run it on ours. Not that I would ditch android but just the thought of having the best of both worlds gets me excited. How about you? Any thoughts?
Windows phone 8.1 not mobile
I'm not interested in using Windows phone as my daily driver but would be cool if we can dual boot wp and android.
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Windows phone 8.1 not mobile
I'm not interested in using Windows phone as my daily driver but would be cool if we can dual boot wp and android.
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Sorry lol I don't keep up that much with windows but hey it would be cool to dual boot just because why not. Using another os without having to commit to it sounds great.
I'd love a dual boot, but if I recall it's sort of a legal grey area. Windows phone isn't free like android, so it's possible that the m8's that ship with windows phone will get unofficial android support, those of us that have them that shipped with android haven't "paid" for a windows license for the phones, so we may not get unofficial WP support.
It's going to be a re-release of the m8 as the w8 running wp8.1. It's not a dual boot phone just a "new" device apparently.
But if there were certain developers that got curious and dedicated to porting wp to the Android m8 it would just be a matter time. Identical hardware only rebranded as a Windows phone with working drivers. Techically a working hboot/boot loader similar to magldr for HD2 would do it.
But that's all what ifs on a device that's not the m8.
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It's going to be a re-release of the m8 as the w8 running wp8.1. It's not a dual boot phone just a "new" device apparently.
But if there were certain developers that got curious and dedicated to porting wp to the Android m8 it would just be a matter time. Identical hardware only rebranded as a Windows phone with working drivers. Techically a working hboot/boot loader similar to magldr for HD2 would do it.
But that's all what ifs on a device that's not the m8.
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But see, the HD2 came with windows phone first, so it technically had the license for it. The M8 android edition doesn't have the windows licensing so I'm not sure if a developer would want to undertake that task and risk the wrath of microsoft.
I think if this wp8 phone had identical hardware and a stock RUU were to appear one could flash this ROM with S-OFF.
Technically speaking sense is not open source and that doesn't stop people from attempting to port it other devices. Almost always OEM ports are proof of concept.
Unless Windows/HTC were to issue a cease and desist letter to the dev community (which I don't see happening considering at this point they would be thrilled people would have an interest period) I don't see this being an issue if hardware specifications are the same or equal enough
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I think if this wp8 phone had identical hardware and a stock RUU were to appear one could flash this ROM with S-OFF.
Technically speaking sense is not open source and that doesn't stop people from attempting to port it other devices. Almost always OEM ports are proof of concept.
Unless Windows/HTC were to issue a cease and desist letter to the dev community (which I don't see happening considering at this point they would be thrilled people would have an interest period) I don't see this being an issue if hardware specifications are the same or equal enough
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Partition layout are different between the two different OS. An RUU would not flash and if it did you would screw up your phone emmc so brick.
I am by no means an expert but I know the partition are different from GPE and Sense and with soff you can still flash. In theory wouldn't that be the same? I maybe way off.
If this had the support of Nexus community I bet you a working wp8 could work. For instance if their was a nexus 5 that happened to run WP8.
In any case I would love to at least try a try WP8. I am sure I will be running back to android a weeks tops though
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I'd love a dual boot, but if I recall it's sort of a legal grey area. Windows phone isn't free like android, so it's possible that the m8's that ship with windows phone will get unofficial android support, those of us that have them that shipped with android haven't "paid" for a windows license for the phones, so we may not get unofficial WP support.
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Windows announced a couple months back that all devices under 8 or 9 inches are free now. No need to pay for a license. I'll have to look up the article I read, but I'm sure a quick Google search would yield done results.
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Windows announced a couple months back that all devices under 8 or 9 inches are free now. No need to pay for a license. I'll have to look up the article I read, but I'm sure a quick Google search would yield done results.
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Looks like you are spot on! Which answers the question and makes it more plausible.
Free Windows phone for devices < 9" Save your jokes!
This almost makes me feel like Microsoft should make it easier to convert an Android version for people that are curious to use their OS. Furthermore, it would be brilliant to help adoption rate if they give free licenses and encourage existing devices to convert to Windows in a simple easy way. Starting to see some light here.
A ROM like the gpe one coming? But w8
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I think if this wp8 phone had identical hardware and a stock RUU were to appear one could flash this ROM with S-OFF.
Technically speaking sense is not open source and that doesn't stop people from attempting to port it other devices. Almost always OEM ports are proof of concept.
Unless Windows/HTC were to issue a cease and desist letter to the dev community (which I don't see happening considering at this point they would be thrilled people would have an interest period) I don't see this being an issue if hardware specifications are the same or equal enough
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MS already went after XDA, hence all the windows phone software on the site was removed.
Is this true?
Oops posted in wrong forum...
I would love the idea of dual boot, but honestly I would do Android/UbuntuPhone