So if I buy a Nexus (off contract) and activate it on my VZW account, where will OTA updates come from? Direct from Google, yes?
It doesn't matter if you buy it off contract or contract. Verizon Galaxy Nexuses (CDMA/LTE) will come from Google directly but Verizon has to approve of the update before Google pushes it out.
Whereas, the GSM Galaxy Nexus (yakju models.. if its not yakju you can convert, search forum on how to do that) gets update from Google without approval from any other parties.
Yes. They don't come OTA from the carrier as most people believe. They come from Google. I know this because when I went to the Verizon store on launch day to get my Nexus, the reps let me play with my phone for 15 mins or so while they tended to another customer. They gave it to me new in the box with no SIM card and connected it to WiFi for me. After about 5-10 mins of me playing with it and setting it up over WiFi, the phone pulled the new 4.0.2 update and I installed it. It did this without being activated on the carrier, no SIM card installed and it was connected to a commercial ISP (not a Verizon MiFi AP) via WiFi.
Unless Verizon has some weird setup to push updated over the internet instead of the carrier, I'm pretty confident that the updates come from Google's servers and not Verizon. But yes, Verizon will have to approve the update before it gets pushed to their Nexus devices.
zephiK said:
It doesn't matter if you buy it off contract or contract. Verizon Galaxy Nexuses (CDMA/LTE) will come from Google directly but Verizon has to approve of the update before Google pushes it out.
Whereas, the GSM Galaxy Nexus (yakju models.. if its not yakju you can convert, search forum on how to do that) gets update from Google without approval from any other parties.
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But I couldn't use a "yakju" model on Verizon, right?
Thanks!
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But I couldn't use a "yakju" model on Verizon, right?
Thanks!
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No you can't. Yakju is the GSM build.
The Verizon CDMA build is Mysid.
They are NOT interchangeable.
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Yes. They don't come OTA from the carrier as most people believe. They come from Google. I know this because when I went to the Verizon store on launch day to get my Nexus, the reps let me play with my phone for 15 mins or so while they tended to another customer. They gave it to me new in the box with no SIM card and connected it to WiFi for me. After about 5-10 mins of me playing with it and setting it up over WiFi, the phone pulled the new 4.0.2 update and I installed it. It did this without being activated on the carrier, no SIM card installed and it was connected to a commercial ISP (not a Verizon MiFi AP) via WiFi.
Unless Verizon has some weird setup to push updated over the internet instead of the carrier, I'm pretty confident that the updates come from Google's servers and not Verizon. But yes, Verizon will have to approve the update before it gets pushed to their Nexus devices.
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I think this app would disagree with you.
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But I couldn't use a "yakju" model on Verizon, right?
Thanks!
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No. That refers to GSM models.
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I think this app would disagree with you.
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I don't think that app could have agreed with me more, lol. Read my post again .
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Will this be coming to the GSM nexus anytime?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1365360
root required
I don't want to root.
Will this be coming officially to the GSM nexus?
Call up Google and ask them. Then, report.
brian85 said:
I don't want to root.
Will this be coming officially to the GSM nexus?
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Unsure.. Nexus S GSM doesn't even have it. Only phone with official support is the Nexus S 4G on Sprint.
The reasoning behind this is because: AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon have a partnership with ISIS and Google Wallet is their competitor (or something like that).
This is why Nexus S 4G has Google Wallet officially.
No root, no wallet.
Well the GSM Nexus S has been out for a year now and still doesn't have it officially. Only the NS4G on Sprint does. It seems that Sprint and Google had made a deal to get Google Wallet out the door. Other carriers in the US are pushing the ISIS payment system, which is getting in the way also.
When we'll see it officially on other devices? Who knows.
Hi all,
Just got my Galaxy Nexus one week ago, the GSM unlocked version. I was looking for a specific app, so I accessed the Google Play store from my computer, and it seems Google knows I have a T-mobile phone! See attached pic. (Technically, it's true, I am using T-mobile service, but I'm pretty sure there is no such T-mobile branded Galaxy Nexus.) I just find that funny, especially since my phone was imported by Expansys (possibly from Russia, based on the included manual and charger that are printed in Cyrillic lettering. )
I wonder if other GSM owners see the same thing? (Obviously, I expect Sprint and Verizon to be shown.)
This is normal. The Play Store puts your telephone service provider in front of the model name. Because you are using a T-Mobile USA SIM, the Play Store determines this from your APN settings AFAIK.
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This is normal. The Play Store puts your telephone service provider in front of the model name. Because you are using a T-Mobile USA SIM, the Play Store determines this from your APN settings AFAIK.
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^This.
My Galaxy Nexus (from Expansys, I think it's a UK version) is labeled "T-Mobile" as well. Same thing with my Nexus One.
I get the same on my Nexus with me using Rogers in Canada.
Mine got labeled SingTel Samsung Galaxy Nexus, pretty sure my country do not have operators that sell branded phones.
It had to do with the sim card's operator numeric thing i think.
I was using Market Enabler the other day, pretty sure i did not have data enabled and Play Store labled my gnex as a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
It just reads your carrier, and reads your device. Then puts them together...
Its cause of your SIM reporting the info to Google when you linked your account to that phone/number.
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Interesting. It does seem a bit intrusive on Google's part to sniff my SIM like that, but I guess I'm OK with it. thanks all.
zAlbee said:
Interesting. It does seem a bit intrusive on Google's part to sniff my SIM like that, but I guess I'm OK with it. thanks all.
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If you also had another Nexus with AT&T you would be thanking Google for doing that so that you knew which device you were about to download an app to.
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Interesting. It does seem a bit intrusive on Google's part to sniff my SIM like that, but I guess I'm OK with it. thanks all.
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There are carrier-specific apps and things that they need to know your carrier info for. Such as when you are in the Play Store and click on "Music" you get a "Live Exclusive T-Mobile Free Songs" button.
And believe me, Google is doing a lot of stuff more intrusive than knowing what carrier you're on... I'm surprised you ever thought that Google wouldn't know your carrier.
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Interesting. It does seem a bit intrusive on Google's part to sniff my SIM like that, but I guess I'm OK with it. thanks all.
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As was stated, it is used by the Play Store to determine what apps/features are available to you and it is also used for enabling carrier billing.
Hello I just bought an unlocked samsung galaxy nexus GT-I9250 and I have a couple of questions #1 has anyone successfully registered their galaxy nexus with samsung. If so I need help. I found the serial number and typed it in along with the purchase date it tells there is an error. #2 does anyone know where to download the drivers for the unlocked galaxy nexus? please give me a link. And last #3 is there some apn I need to put in to get the phone to connect to AT&T's HSPA+ network. Please help. this is my first nexus phone.
1) I can't answer because I imported mine.
2) Here are the drivers. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20058157&postcount=1
3) I'm on T-Mobile so I don't know for sure but, I believe you have to call them to provision HSPA+
You can't register it with Samsung.
am i supposed to register it. if so then who?
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You can't register it with Samsung.
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Am I supposed to register it? If so who?
El Daddy said:
1) I can't answer because I imported mine.
2) Here are the drivers. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20058157&postcount=1
3) I'm on T-Mobile so I don't know for sure but, I believe you have to call them to provision HSPA+
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Thank you for your help!!! But why are the drivers beta?
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Thank you for your help!!! But why are the drivers beta?
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They're Beta because they're universal. There's official drivers that are specifially for the Galaxy Nexus, but they're tricky to install if you're not familiar with computers.
As for your first question, I tried, couldn't either. Doesn't really matter though, as I called them up for a warranty repair (got some water in the power button) and when asked for my IMEI number, they knew the day it was purchased and shipped.
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am i supposed to register it. if so then who?
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You don't have to register it with anyone.
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You don't need to register the phone, all warranty claims can be made through Google, just tell them the Checkout Account you used to purchase the phone. AT&T will need to provision you a "4G" plan, which requires the IMEI of an AT&T "4G" phone. Go in store and they should be able to use a floor model or some unit that they have laying around back, don't bother calling Customer Service, they won't know what to do. No fancy APNs to deal with, just crap AT&T mobile registration (even for prepaid).
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You don't need to register the phone, all warranty claims can be made through Google, just tell them the Checkout Account you used to purchase the phone. AT&T will need to provision you a "4G" plan, which requires the IMEI of an AT&T "4G" phone. Go in store and they should be able to use a floor model or some unit that they have laying around back, don't bother calling Customer Service, they won't know what to do. No fancy APNs to deal with, just crap AT&T mobile registration (even for prepaid).
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I have a 2 gig plan that I got when I upgraded to the inspire and never saw HSPA+ not even in settings. I saw on YouTube a video and a guy had gotten an LTE plan. But I tried changing my plan online but seeing how att doesn't recognize the phone I couldn't. Do I need to try an lte plan? I have been places that supposedly have HSPA+ but was always on hsdpa and att said "HSDPA is more enhanced version of HSPA+" which I know isn't true.
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You do not have an LTE phone.
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You do not have an LTE phone.
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I know that I'm not stupid. I'm just wandering why I never get HSPA+. I didn't get it when I had an inspire 4g and i still don't get it with the galaxy nexus. I still have HSDPA. And I've gotten HSDPA where there is supposedly "4G" for example Atalanta.
So when we last tuned in...
Verizon was giving folks "difficulty" in getting their Nexus 7 (2013) LTE activated.
It would say it's not listed in the system or some such thing.
Clever folks installed sims from other phones and that worked okay.
But, has anyone gotten a straight up, add $10 to your family share plan, install yet?
Thanks in advance for any help.
dannyboy22 said:
So when we last tuned in...
Verizon was giving folks "difficulty" in getting their Nexus 7 (2013) LTE activated.
It would say it's not listed in the system or some such thing.
Clever folks installed sims from other phones and that worked okay.
But, has anyone gotten a straight up, add $10 to your family share plan, install yet?
Thanks in advance for any help.
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Nothing official yet. Verizon found some issues during their testing. Google and Asus are not going to fix the issues in 4.3 since 4.4 is gonna be rolled out soon. My guess is another month or two (at least).
I have the Nexus 7 LTE model and currently testing both Verizon and T-Mobile. It was EXTREMELY easy activating with Verizon. Just go to a Verizon store and purchase a MicroSim card for $15. Generate a fake IMEI number (there is a website that allows you to do this). The number generated for me tied to a Galaxy Tab. Go on Verizon site and activate (or add a new device to your plan) using the fake generated IMEI number and MicroSim number. Pop in the Micro Sim and enjoy LTE!
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Nothing official yet. Verizon found some issues during their testing. Google and Asus are not going to fix the issues in 4.3 since 4.4 is gonna be rolled out soon. My guess is another month or two (at least).
I have the Nexus 7 LTE model and currently testing both Verizon and T-Mobile. It was EXTREMELY easy activating with Verizon. Just go to a Verizon store and purchase a MicroSim card for $15. Generate a fake IMEI number (there is a website that allows you to do this). The number generated for me tied to a Galaxy Tab. Go on Verizon site and activate (or add a new device to your plan) using the fake generated IMEI number and MicroSim number. Pop in the Micro Sim and enjoy LTE!
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did you do this with the tmobile model or did you purchase the Verizon version when it was available online? thanks
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did you do this with the tmobile model or did you purchase the Verizon version when it was available online? thanks
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There is only one LTE version which can handle Verizon, T-Mobile, and ATT.
thank you!!
So if I paid cash for the Verizon version I should be able to call them and have them lift the carrier lock. If I do that will the radio work on T-Mobile? I have an opportunity for such a good deal on the Verizon version its going to cost almost nothing. Also if this all works would WiFi calling work on T-Mobile?
What kind of deal do you have? Sounds like you might be getting on a contract thinking it gives you a cheap cast phone
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What kind of deal do you have? Sounds like you might be getting on a contract thinking it gives you a cheap cast phone
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My employer has offered to pay the purchase price but they insist I be on Verizon. I'm on a great plan with T-Mobile and I don't want to change. I might since this is the XL phone so I can't lose one way or the other.
Reddog58 said:
My employer has offered to pay the purchase price but they insist I be on Verizon. I'm on a great plan with T-Mobile and I don't want to change. I might since this is the XL phone so I can't lose one way or the other.
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Explain to them that you can buy it through the Google Store and still use it on Verizon. Otherwise I would contact VZW and see if they will be carrier locked or not if you purchase through VZW.
I read somewhere that the VZW version won't be carrier locked. I think popping in your T-Mobile SIM card before you ever start it up will allow you to use it on VZW
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I read somewhere that the VZW version won't be carrier locked. I think popping in your T-Mobile SIM card before you ever start it up will allow you to use it on VZW
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So the thinking is the one SKU will have the radio support for any US carrier? And a locked bootloader doesn't matter since I am not planning on rooting it, at least not in the short term. As a cash sale I should be able to walk out with the phone and pop in my T-Mobil SIM and be online. I understand none of this is certain until I have the phone in hand.
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So the thinking is the one SKU will have the radio support for any US carrier? And a locked bootloader doesn't matter since I am not planning on rooting it, at least not in the short term. As a cash sale I should be able to walk out with the phone and pop in my T-Mobil SIM and be online. I understand none of this is certain until I have the phone in hand.
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All VZW phones are carrier unlocked. They include all gsm radios and have no issue with popping T-Mobile sims in and running. VZW has never had carrier locked devices.
If you purchase the Pixel thru VZW, it will be carrier unlocked. The bootloader is locked, and cannot be unlocked. This has been confirmed by Google and VZW.
Better to purchase thru the Google Play Store, as it will (hopefully) at least have an unlockable bootloader (if you require that).
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If you purchase the Pixel thru VZW, it will be carrier locked. Already been confirmed by Google and VZW.
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Where did you see this? I have read confirmation that the bootloader will be locked. I haven't read anything saying it will be carrier locked.
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If you purchase the Pixel thru VZW, it will be carrier locked. Already been confirmed by Google and VZW.
Buy the same phone from Google Play store, it is not carrier locked, and it has been confirmed that Wi-Fi calling and HD Voice will work with the GPS version on VZW, both by Google and VZW.
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Not true. In fact, the opposite has been confirmed. It's 100% SIM unlocked like every other Verizon LTE device has been. No Verizon phone with LTE has been SIM locked per their agreement with the FCC when purchasing a large block of LTE spectrum. The issue with getting some other Verizon LTE devices fully working on a different carrier has been band support. That doesn't appear to be an issue here.
@hollowlog @bsweetness my apologies, you are both correct (I will edit my post). I swear I read somewhere (of course I cant find it now) that they were carrier locked as well as bootloader locked (and unlockable).
Apparently reading some more, they ARE carrier unlocked, with a locked (and unlockable) bootloader.
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Not true. In fact, the opposite has been confirmed. It's 100% SIM unlocked like every other Verizon LTE device has been. No Verizon phone with LTE has been SIM locked per their agreement with the FCC when purchasing a large block of LTE spectrum. The issue with getting some other Verizon LTE devices fully working on a different carrier has been band support. That doesn't appear to be an issue here.
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This seems to be one of the most confusing aspects of the relationship between Google and Verizon. What exactly is the point of buying from Verizon? As you read the posts you see more and more reasons which are mostly due to an employer subsidized price which is also my reason. I wouldn't even think of buying from Verizon if not for the discount I will get. But in my case the discount is almost 100% of the purchase price. But what they don't subsidize is the monthly plan. So I can't pass on the phone but I want it to work on my T-Mobile sim. Verizon is not even close to the pricing on the data plan I get from T-Mobile. But maybe that day isn't as far off as it has been in the past.
So apparently Verizon Pixel/XL will receive updates at the same time as the unlocked versions do.
Shame the Verizon versions have a locked bootloader.
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So apparently Verizon Pixel/XL will receive updates at the same time as the unlocked versions do.
Shame the Verizon versions have a locked bootloader.
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I don't expect that to remain. The bootloaders on the Nexus 6 which I owned and the 6p/5x all came locked and were right away unlocked. Odds are it will get unlocked. Better odds than any other phone actually.
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Greetings all.
Not to completely hijack this thread. But I was absolutely beside myself when I saw the mention of all verizon LTE devices being carrier unlocked. I guess I had never tried it and just assumed that phones on VZW's edge payment plan, Or under contract were carrier locked like many other carriers do.
So, I set out to test it. Me and a buddy both have Note7's on VZW. Both are not even a single payment in. And we have already pre-ordered pixel XL's due to the now 2nd recall of the note 7.
Anyways, I have a T-Mobile sim from a work issued phone. Popped it in my buddies Note7 and no kidding. It worked without issue. Had to program the Tmobile APN. But it sure is unlocked.
Screenshot of LTE discovery.
http://i.imgur.com/Ua0lapj.jpg
It would however appear that the VZW Note 7 variant does not support Band 12 (Or it's disabled) as popping the same SIM in my older Nexus 6p lands the phone directly on band 12. Band 4 if I take it outside where the RSQ improves. Covering the Note 7 with my hands to attenuate the signal causes the phone to fall off LTE (Not until a damn low -128. Which is crazy) and it'll land on GSM/HSPA+.
So, Seeing my note7 work with a T-Mobile simcard squarely lands me on believing the Pixel XL will be carrier unlocked. If Verizon isn't allowed to sell a carrier locked phone due to it's FCC dealings, The Pixel is no different. I figure the way it works out is fantastic for the end user. Verizon CANT lock the phone to them. And Google I assume doesn't want that done anyways. So there's no push from either side to lock the device.
Now that bootloader. Time will tell. And I'm anxious to see the outcome.
Verizon Employee here, NO 4G LTE devices are Carrier Locked. We do not yet know on dev or employee side if bootloader lock. Verizon will not be involved in updates of software so when Google releases they get it similar to Apple at least that's what the news released today on Android Central says.
My Nexus 6 from Verizon was completely unlocked. However my S6 Edge+ was locked including the other bands necessary for T-Mobile was locked. However after the S6 Edge+ update to 6.0 it was carrier unlocked for the radio bands.
Considering my Nexus 6 was unlocked I expect the Pixel to be unlocked. However they have stated the bootloader would be locked. I would not buy one from Verizon.
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So if I paid cash for the Verizon version I should be able to call them and have them lift the carrier lock. If I do that will the radio work on T-Mobile? I have an opportunity for such a good deal on the Verizon version its going to cost almost nothing. Also if this all works would WiFi calling work on T-Mobile?
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Verizon phones are unlocked. It'll be fine without needing to call them.
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My Nexus 6 from Verizon was completely unlocked. However my S6 Edge+ was locked including the other bands necessary for T-Mobile was locked. However after the S6 Edge+ update to 6.0 it was carrier unlocked for the radio bands.
Considering my Nexus 6 was unlocked I expect the Pixel to be unlocked. However they have stated the bootloader would be locked. I would not buy one from Verizon.
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The VZW Nexus 6 came locked. Once you had it you could go in and unlock it. It's been this way with every Nexus on VZW. So far that's the trend.
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Seems to be a bit of confusion about locked and unlocked. All Verizon LTE phones are 100% sim (carrier) unlocked per their deal with the FCC as stated above. They may not have all bands enabled in the radios to work perfectly with all carriers. All Nexus and Pixel phones are bootloader locked form Google or anywhere else you get them. All of them but the Pixel phones sold by Verizon can be bootloader unlocked after you buy them via ADB commands. The bootloader on the Verizon sold Pixel phones will be encrypted so initially they will not be unlockable. Only time will tell if a developer can find a way to unlock the Verizon bootloader.