Good battery Life: Do I Need a New Kernel? - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

Hi, I recently flashed liquidsmooth 1.25 on my CDMA GN. Today I got around 3 hours and 20 minutes of on screen time, and the screen is taking up about all the battery (69% is the screen). Then 5% cell standby, 5% phone idle, and a few lower things. The main question, since the screen is about the only reason for lack of battery life, will using a different kernel change anything? I'm really just wondering if using a new kernel would actually make a difference. Thanks so much!

No, changing a kernel will not affect the screen-on time that drains the battery. Putting your brightness on it's lowest setting will though.

Thank you! So trying franco's kernel or leankernel won't really have much benefit? And one more somewhat OT question: is there any advantage to underclocking and undervolting with a new kernel? I'm using the regular liquidsmooth settings to underclock to 920mhz and undervolt to 1150 mV.

AFAIK LiquidSmooth is already using leankernel as it's stock kernel... (Imoseyon = leankernel)

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[Q] What kernel do you use?

Hi I am wondering what kernels everyone is using for their Incredible. I was using Tiamat 3.3.5 NO-SBC and got decent battery life. Today I put on Savaged-Zen-INC-0.0.2-BFS-HAVS-GB-signed. What is working best for you also what one would you recommend for maximum battery life. Thank you.
I'm kinda one of those people that just experiments around with kernels. Right now I'm using the same as you which is Tiamat, but I really have enjoyed the most recent incredikernel.
I'm running Skyraider 3.5 with the 2.6.32.27 incredikernel. Happy with it so far. I'm at 46% battery after 28 hours of medium use for calls, texts, browsing, and listening to music. I have the screen brightness pretty low and the cpu governer set to "smartass". I just flashed to this from HeyitsLou #9. That one gave great battery too...the best was almost 72 hours! I flashed to this one for the overclocking.
I really like incredikernel, I get great battery life out of it. when I flash a new kernel I bump charge then erase battery stats and I get about 2 days of battery out of it, that's with turning off wifi when not needed and custom automatic brightness

Generic Hotplug and Franco's Kernel Question

Yesterday I flashed Franco's Kernel along with his app. I am running CodenameAndroid 1.6 ROM with Franco's Kernel r135 nightly.
I haven not been getting the exceptional battery life that everyone has been raving about. I understand every phone is different, and there are tons of contributing factors to battery life.
I have my screen brightness very low, location services are off, no LTE running (I'm running on 3G), however I've had wifi on all day today since I am at home. I've undervolted by using Franco's paid app and am running On Demand governor. However, I have generic hotplug turned on because I'm not always on my phone and messing with it. It's 1 o clock, and I took the phone off the charger at 8 this morning. I'm already down to 79% and my on-screen time is only 18 minutes while my idle time is 3 hours and 44 minutes. Other than that, I don't have any apps unning in the background accept for the regular things that should be running.
To the point, am I doing something wrong? It just seems weird to have that much battery drain and have my phone on idle for almost 4 hours and on-screen time to only be 18 minutes. Are my expectations too high for this kernel? I've heard awesome stats as far as battery life goes while using this kernel but I'm not seeing it. Is it because the kernel hasn't fully "baked" into the phone like some people say? I appreciate the feedback.
That doesn't sound right. Do you have BetterBatteryStats installed? That way you can find out what is keeping your phone awake whilst your screen is on.
Also, what are the rest of your kernel settings? Mine:
r135-512
384/1228
interactive (no hotplug works best for me)
I don't uv, but let SmartReflex do it's job for me.
This works best for me with BAMF (atm, but switch beween that rom and Liquid quite often). BAMF gives me best screen on time, but idles less good than Liquid, which gives me less screen on time. On a day of heavy usage, BAMF wins.
What I'm trying to say is, find your zen in rom/ kernel/ radio combo, because you might just use your phone differently then me (and others).
Oh, and I use the Samsung oem 2000mah battery. That helps too. I'm getting ~10h of use with ~4h screen on on a charge.
Hope this get's you on your way mate

[Q] High Battery consumption?

Hello,
i hope you can help me.
I'm using MildWild 4.3 based on Oxygen 2.3.2 with Thalamus kernel.
When my desire is on stand-by modus, it consumes 1 % per 45-55 minutes. Because of that i'm very glad.
But when i use my desire, p.e when iuse play store without anything downloading it consumes 1 % per 2-4 minutes.
My question is: is that normal? Or must i change any settings or an another kernel etc???
Can nobody help me?
I don't know why you don't reply? This is my second thread, and the first thread I've not recieved any answers either.
Well, it is 18 hours past after unplugging my phone and I have 71 %. But I'm used my phone 15 minutes after unplugging.
Is there all right?
it seems maybe a little high. screen should be the biggest consumer of battery once you start using your phone.
however i don't know your screen brightness and age of battery.
in standby seems ok, you can use something like 'betterbatterystats' to double check no app is keeping it in partial wakelock.
inbuilt kernel, or stock thalamus kernel (in my sig) should be fine. personally i use inbuilt cpu settings ondemand 245 - 998MHz, no other apps needed, and i think battery use is fine.
for what it's worth, here's another response to another battery use query...
Yes ,Its normal
eddiehk6 said:
it seems maybe a little high. screen should be the biggest consumer of battery once you start using your phone.
however i don't know your screen brightness and age of battery.
in standby seems ok, you can use something like 'betterbatterystats' to double check no app is keeping it in partial wakelock.
inbuilt kernel, or stock thalamus kernel (in my sig) should be fine. personally i use inbuilt cpu settings ondemand 245 - 998MHz, no other apps needed, and i think battery use is fine.
for what it's worth, here's another response to another battery use query...
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hi
in the android phone its normal battery usage , but for better test u can change CPU governor to smartassv2.
don't forget battery Consumption mostly depend on kind of Battery and thats Amper
thanks for the answers,
I'm using thalamus kernel, 2.6.35.14_r-stable.
Screen brightness is automatic and i've bought my battery 1-1,5 years ago, original desire battery.
I also have Better Bacttery Stats, by partial wakelocks i have since unplugged:
Activity Manager-Launch with 2m 6s and 318 counts.
Alarm Manager with 1m 7s and 1244 counts.
wifi with 10s and 501 counts
sleep broadcoast with 8s and 460 counts
and other programs.
Since unplugged: 10 h
deep spleep: 8h 7m
Awake: 1h 54m
Screen on: 1h 43m
KWL: 8m 20s
PWL: 6m 9s
İs there all right, and I don't know which programs are these.
and under cpu governor I don't have smartassv2, i have powersave, ondemand, performance. Min CPU frequency 245 MHz, max CPU frequency 998 MHz, and what is smartassv2?
And can you please explain in a bit simple English?
My English isn't good.
Can you post a screenshot of your battery usage graph?
I'm my case, almost all the power consuption comes from the screen (Never under 50%).. I have to use very low brightness if I want the battery life to last.
Best regards.
http://s14.directupload.net/file/d/2944/dn53ux3u_png.htm
How i said, it drains by using my desire. On standby, its all right.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app
Lonely_Boz said:
thanks for the answers,
I'm using thalamus kernel, 2.6.35.14_r-stable.
Screen brightness is automatic and i've bought my battery 1-1,5 years ago, original desire battery.
I also have Better Bacttery Stats, by partial wakelocks i have since unplugged:
Activity Manager-Launch with 2m 6s and 318 counts.
Alarm Manager with 1m 7s and 1244 counts.
wifi with 10s and 501 counts
sleep broadcoast with 8s and 460 counts
and other programs.
Since unplugged: 10 h
deep spleep: 8h 7m
Awake: 1h 54m
Screen on: 1h 43m
KWL: 8m 20s
PWL: 6m 9s
İs there all right, and I don't know which programs are these.
and under cpu governor I don't have smartassv2, i have powersave, ondemand, performance. Min CPU frequency 245 MHz, max CPU frequency 998 MHz, and what is smartassv2?
And can you please explain in a bit simple English?
My English isn't good.
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looks fine, you can see that there is no app keeping the phone awake for very long...max 2m 6s.
smartassV2 is another CPU governor. whether it is better than ondemand will require you to measure the drain for similar activities, though personally i don't think it's worth it.
screen is still meant to consume the most battery as long as you are using the phone, regardless of govenor. no change of rom/kernel/touch screen phone will change this fact.
i can suggest turning off auto brightness and using a lower manual one. have a widget to toggle between low and high when you need to (many in google play).
Thanks for the answer. It is possible, the Battery is defect or it doesn't function well because of his age? Is there an app which measure the battery if it is all right with the battery?
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app
theres lots of battery apps in the market but they only really tell ya basic things, health, voltage, battery percent etc.
Sent from my HTC Desire
Well... I've seen things with the same rom, same kernel and different results... mainly due apps keeping the phone awake, but in your scenario is not that bad. I loose 3% overnight with CM 5 MW's version which is awesome, but once i start using my phone.. let me see. I've lost 10% with about 20 minutes of browsing and 20 minutes of gaming... I'm using ManU kernel which is pretty good with battery life, but not compatible with oxygen version of MildWild.
Do a Nandroid backup and try CM version, just to check the differences if you're up to it.
Also, flash ManU kernel afterwards
Let us know if you need help, you have a drain but not awfully bad. However 1% every couple of minutes seems a bit too much .
Well, i don't think that there is a ROM problem. Many people using this ROM have good results than me.
Nevertheless, i will try MW CM 5. After testing i will write here.
I think, there is a battery problem .
Even if it is, you're not spending money without ruling out software issues right?
MidnightDevil said:
Even if it is, you're not spending money without ruling out software issues right?
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I'm sorry, but unfortunately i didn' understand you what you mean
Well, i tested a lot of ROM's (MW, ICS Nikez Sandvold Oxy) and i've notice that there isn't a kernel or ROM problem, it's just battery problem.
My battery is still working, but it doesn't work well. I've bought the battery 1,5 years ago, and this is my second battery (genuine HTC battery).
I've also problems with my first battery.
I don't know, should i buy a new battery? If yes, which battery do yu suggest, genuine or another?
And i don't have any good experiences with HTC batteries. Perhaps i didn't use the batteries well.

Pathetic Battery 2100 mAh

Using slimkat stable and Franco's latest kernel, battery life sucks 10 mins = 10% it's really weird. I use interactive governor and underclocked the cup to 700 something mhz. I also undervalued with -25 in ROM toolbox. Battery still sucks. Is that normal? I don't think so. How can I fix this (kernels, undervolting, etc)
Sent from my 2013 Kindle Fire HD
Mineturtle33 said:
Using slimkat stable and Franco's latest kernel, battery life sucks 10 mins = 10% it's really weird. I use interactive governor and underclocked the cup to 700 something mhz. I also undervalued with -25 in ROM toolbox. Battery still sucks. Is that normal? I don't think so. How can I fix this (kernels, undervolting, etc)
Sent from my 2013 Kindle Fire HD
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I'm getting good battery life with Fancy Kernel. It's stable, fast and the battery lasts a whole day. But maybe the problem is the battery it self. There was a code you could dial to see some system stats among which the battery health. Dial this number *#*#4636#*#* and click battery info.
For more codes, here is a list which I haven't tested apart from the one above
http://www.teamandroid.com/2012/09/02/android-secret-dial-codes/

[Q] Custom kernel for better battery life ?

Hey guys ,
I am not getting that good battery as everyone. I am only getting about 4-5h on screen time not like the others 7-10 hours.
What can I do to get this awesome battery life ?
Are there any tweaks,mods that I have to apply ? Is there a custom kernel that is preferable ?
EL Sa7eR said:
Hey guys ,
I am not getting that good battery as everyone. I am only getting about 4-5h on screen time not like the others 7-10 hours.
What can I do to get this awesome battery life ?
Are there any tweaks,mods that I have to apply ? Is there a custom kernel that is preferable ?
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Are you using a custom rom? If yes, which is it?
Have you tried disabling location settings in settings?
Have you untick location settings and remote wipe device in google play services?
Doi you have a high wakelock that's cauing the issue?
EL Sa7eR said:
Hey guys ,
I am not getting that good battery as everyone. I am only getting about 4-5h on screen time not like the others 7-10 hours.
What can I do to get this awesome battery life ?
Are there any tweaks,mods that I have to apply ? Is there a custom kernel that is preferable ?
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I usually get 7-10+ hours, but I also keep mine on a wireless charger if I'm sitting at my desk or if I'm away and don't need it. Here's my setup that may help your battery life:
Location Settings: Battery Saving, this especially helps on stock ROM
Kernel: ElementalX 2.6: Overclocked to 1.8 GHz and undervolted on lower frequencies with elementalx governor. Cool thermal throttling, max screen off frequency is 1.026 GHz. GPU overclock to 450 MHz, ondemand.
If your screen brightness is up over 50% it's wasting a lot of power. I keep mine around 20-25% or on Auto.
When the screen is turned off it doesn't drain too much either. Overnight, 6-7 hrs, drains maybe only 5%. I'm going on 14 hrs battery with only a little bit of charging from the wireless qi charger.
Attatched is a screenshot of battery stats.
Bobbi lim said:
Are you using a custom rom? If yes, which is it?
Have you tried disabling location settings in settings?
Have you untick location settings and remote wipe device in google play services?
Doi you have a high wakelock that's cauing the issue?
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I am on the stock rom ,
for the location services it's set to battery mode.
I don't have that high lock but after a 18-24 hour I got one or two hour of CPU total at Android System - Android OS
datallboy said:
I usually get 7-10+ hours, but I also keep mine on a wireless charger if I'm sitting at my desk or if I'm away and don't need it. Here's my setup that may help your battery life:
Location Settings: Battery Saving, this especially helps on stock ROM
Kernel: ElementalX 2.6: Overclocked to 1.8 GHz and undervolted on lower frequencies with elementalx governor. Cool thermal throttling, max screen off frequency is 1.026 GHz. GPU overclock to 450 MHz, ondemand.
If your screen brightness is up over 50% it's wasting a lot of power. I keep mine around 20-25% or on Auto.
When the screen is turned off it doesn't drain too much either. Overnight, 6-7 hrs, drains maybe only 5%. I'm going on 14 hrs battery with only a little bit of charging from the wireless qi charger.
Attatched is a screenshot of battery stats.
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Thank you.
I have already put the Location Settings on Battery saving mode & I have changed the kernel as you mentioned but without overclocking the CPU the screen is always on Auto.

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