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Hello,
I've suspected for a while(and confirmed with friends) that relatively often, my sms don't get to them. It's shown as sent in my phone and in the sms threads, but they simply don't recieve them.
So I tested it out with another phone, sending 5 sms' to the other phone and it only recieved the first one. the other 4 never got there... Now could this be some sort of anti spam causing it? - I did send them in rapid succession. However when I send messages from the OTHER phone to me, regardless of how quick, I get them all. And we're on the same network/provider so that doesn't seem to be the problem.
During regular use, even SMS' sent with lots of time inbetween gets lost occassionally.
I've never had this problems with my old phone so does anyone else have a clue why this is happening? As you can imagine, it's frustrating thinking someone has gotten a message but it never reached there.
Thank you.
Sounds like this problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522535
RMU said:
Sounds like this problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522535
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Hey thanks for the reply, I saw that but doubt that's the same problem.. I usually list most of my numbers with +, and it shows the message is "sent". If it was the same problem as the link above, I guess it would b epossible to reproduce it everytime but mine is seemingly more random.
The specific number I tested it on was a number WITHOUT the +areacode, and even that produced 1/5 messages recieved by the other party.
Any other ideas?
I had that problem before with my touchPro. All I did was hard reset the phone, active sync my contacts and I sent out text messages. Everything worked fine after that.
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Hey thanks for the reply, I saw that but doubt that's the same problem.. I usually list most of my numbers with +, and it shows the message is "sent". If it was the same problem as the link above, I guess it would b epossible to reproduce it everytime but mine is seemingly more random.
The specific number I tested it on was a number WITHOUT the +areacode, and even that produced 1/5 messages recieved by the other party.
Any other ideas?
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Also checked http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4016381&postcount=31 ? see if the number is still correct in windows mobile?
Also try to sent from the windows interface a couple of times (in the textmessage touchflo tab touch the new sms icon in the above right corner.) see if it does better then.
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Also checked http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4016381&postcount=31 ? see if the number is still correct in windows mobile?
Also try to sent from the windows interface a couple of times (in the textmessage touchflo tab touch the new sms icon in the above right corner.) see if it does better then.
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God you know what, you're right. Thanks. I did look through the WM sent folder before but not far down enough..
It does seem to drop the + after the first SMS then not reapply the + until I get a reply.
Annoyingly my phone still tells me "Message Sent" instead of invalid number though, so there's no way to tell if it sent the message without going to check the sent folder I assume?
Doesn't seem like there's a fix or even a confirmed cause for this yet?
I'm having a strange reversed problem: all SMS I send are regularly delivered, but I "miss" many incoming ones. the strage thing is that it happens (AFAIK) only with my girlfriend's ones!! nobody else still complained about me not anwering, so that should mean I received and answered all other mesages.
Please note that we have the same mobile operator (Vodafone Italy)
today she tried her SIM with her bro's phone, and guess what, the problem is still here BUT the difference is in lost messages: 4 out of five lost with her Moto v9, 2 out of 6 lost with her bro's nokia. that sounds really weird to me.
where do you think the problem might be? mine/her SIM, or phone?
I'll call Vodafone Italy later, but their assistance and support is really awful, they do not even know what they are talking about, and reply with the same pre-confectioned anwers every time.
Guys, about 90% of the time when i send a text message, of any size, to anyone, i get a 'message can not be sent' notification and the phone vibrates, this happens about 2-7 times before the text message is sent, and for each time it tries to send the text again, this amount is send to the recipient, for example if it retries 7 times i will send the message 7 times - very annoying
when using the froyo rom from both paul and richardtrip i did not have this issue, although i am almost certain this was due to the stock messaging app, i even tried using handcent on the froyo which i used on the stock and on the froyo it worked perfectly too, but handcent will not work on the stock rom.
so it seems to me that it is an issue with either the stock (sense based) rom or the htc messaging app
im on tmobile UK on a branded phone, this happens on any radio, both rooted and unrooted
does anyone have any advice, or know of a way to replace the htc messaging app with the stock android messaging app?
if i could get this sorted id be very happy, so i appreciate any help
thanks in advance
I've had this issue happen a couple of times aswell, not sure how to replicate it, it seems totally random, but i haven't seen a 90% change of getting it!
try a new radio lol
This happens to me if I use any messaging system other than the default one (e.g. handcent or chomp) and the signal changes whilst sending the message (i.e. H to 3G or E to G etc. etc.)
I am still using the default rom with the latest update as I am waiting for 2.2 before rooting
turn off GRPS/EDGE/ 3G Data
cgrec92 said:
Guys, about 90% of the time when i send a text message, of any size, to anyone, i get a 'message can not be sent' notification and the phone vibrates, this happens about 2-7 times before the text message is sent, and for each time it tries to send the text again, this amount is send to the recipient, for example if it retries 7 times i will send the message 7 times - very annoying
when using the froyo rom from both paul and richardtrip i did not have this issue, although i am almost certain this was due to the stock messaging app, i even tried using handcent on the froyo which i used on the stock and on the froyo it worked perfectly too, but handcent will not work on the stock rom.
so it seems to me that it is an issue with either the stock (sense based) rom or the htc messaging app
im on tmobile UK on a branded phone, this happens on any radio, both rooted and unrooted
does anyone have any advice, or know of a way to replace the htc messaging app with the stock android messaging app?
if i could get this sorted id be very happy, so i appreciate any help
thanks in advance
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Had exactly the same problem on stock/sense based verions of romms. NEver had an issue on stock android messaging app, only with the sense one. Think it must be a bug with that app. I'm T-mo in UK to but have an unbranded phone.
dont resend it, just wait until the message is sent, the phone resends automatically, because if you click the resend, it will send another message. what i do is when i get that error message i just wait.
I'm getting this problem on my o2-uk Desire; they are sending me a replacement handset
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dont resend it, just wait until the message is sent, the phone resends automatically, because if you click the resend, it will send another message. what i do is when i get that error message i just wait.
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Thanks everyone for your replies
So it is confirmed that it is an issue with the HTC messaging app but not with the stock android messaging app, and no messaging clients can fix this as they use the default messaging app.
Is there anyway to change the HTC messaging app with the stock android? I prefer it anyway it works much better, the official froyo release will also contain the stock messaging app which I guess will have the same problem.
I will try flashing a different radio
Setting the phone to WCDMA only does not fix the issue
I am having this problem, and also another which I feel might be related, it tries to resend the message, and it eventually goes. I have also noticed that quite a number of times when I try to make a call, it doesnt dial, it just goes silent and returns to the call register screen. Maybe both related to a siganl problem . Somebody suggested switching off Edge or whatever, but thats not really a fix, and why should you have to do this to send a text. ?
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I am having this problem, and also another which I feel might be related, it tries to resend the message, and it eventually goes. I have also noticed that quite a number of times when I try to make a call, it doesnt dial, it just goes silent and returns to the call register screen. Maybe both related to a siganl problem . Somebody suggested switching off Edge or whatever, but thats not really a fix, and why should you have to do this to send a text. ?
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I agree, and I also experience the same problem, sometimes during a phone call the most strange sounds happen and then the call cuts out, I'm guessing is interference. Problems with calls, text messages, and the connection repeatedly drops when using the mobile internet, exactly the same problems as the hd2, they will not get fixed by HTC, speaking from experience.. very basic requirements of a phone still not being met
I have the exact same issue with both texts and calls that seem to take ages to connect and then just dump me back to the dialer. I've put it down to O2 being so awful but of people have the same issues on other networks id love to know
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I get it off and on, but I let it be and the messages eventually get sent out.
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I get it off and on, but I let it be and the messages eventually get sent out.
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Same here. I did the resending thing for a while, but now I just ignore those error notifications. The text messages arrive anyway
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I get it off and on, but I let it be and the messages eventually get sent out.
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same. I get it 10% of the time. On a unlocked Desire with a UK T-Mobile contract. just leave it to send a couple times, put your desire on a window sill and it should be okay.
but i think the message is not automatically sent if you lock the phone. can anyone confirm this? my unsent message was still not sent when i locked my phone.
As mentioned earlier in this thread, i used to get this issue all of the time when using handcent or chomp. However, since doing the following i've not had it happen once in 2 weeks (where it would happen 10+ times a day before)
1) uninstall any messaging software you have downloaded from the market
2) download sms unread count and sms popup from the market
3) put the sms unread count widget on the homescreen
4) configure sms popup to your liking
5) send messages to your heart's content
This uses the default 'messages' app rather than anything else and works perfectly
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As mentioned earlier in this thread, i used to get this issue all of the time when using handcent or chomp. However, since doing the following i've not had it happen once in 2 weeks (where it would happen 10+ times a day before)
1) uninstall any messaging software you have downloaded from the market
2) download sms unread count and sms popup from the market
3) put the sms unread count widget on the homescreen
4) configure sms popup to your liking
5) send messages to your heart's content
This uses the default 'messages' app rather than anything else and works perfectly
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Thanks very much for your reply
I will try this right now
i also have the problem with the unsent messages and undialled calls, tmo uk contract phone.
On the stock touch wiz messaging app I get these type of alerts/indicators/notifiers?? but am unaware of what they mean. The messages go through fine, but I get this small "X" right above the date on only some messages.
Does anyone else experience this? Has this already been discussed somewhere else?
I've attached a picture with arrows pointing at what I'm talking about.
Any help is appreciated, thanks.
From what I know that means you have messages in those threads that failed to send.
Or rather, your phone THINKS the message did not send. I'm having this issue a lot lately with Sprint and this phone. In my area in fact a lot of people on the sprint network, including those using boost mobile, are having issues. The phone says the messages failed to send, but they actually do.
I have alot of text messages that fail as well. My wife's phone doesn't have this problem.
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From what I know that means you have messages in those threads that failed to send.
Or rather, your phone THINKS the message did not send. I'm having this issue a lot lately with Sprint and this phone. In my area in fact a lot of people on the sprint network, including those using boost mobile, are having issues. The phone says the messages failed to send, but they actually do.
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happens in low coverage areas. happens to me all the time at home. phone will say sending failed, but still sends, and people still reply. i used to keep hitting the exclamation point and it would keep trying to resend, even though it really went thru lol
littlemegaman said:
On the stock touch wiz messaging app I get these type of alerts/indicators/notifiers?? but am unaware of what they mean. The messages go through fine, but I get this small "X" right above the date on only some messages.
Does anyone else experience this? Has this already been discussed somewhere else?
I've attached a picture with arrows pointing at what I'm talking about.
Any help is appreciated, thanks.
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That's their Google Talk status (you probably have their gmail addy in their contact info). The grey dot with an X means they are offline. If they're online, it would be a green dot; if they were connected and away, it would be a yellow dot with clock hands in it.
Thanks everyone. What's funny is that I dont have gmail addresses assigned to those contacts. Will look into it though, thanks again.
I talked to sprint and they are aware of this issue they are working to find a permanent fix, now this is what I was told. They also say turning the phone off and back on forces update into the phone because it reset with the network when you turn it off.
Just a bug probably.
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I talked to sprint and they are aware of this issue they are working to find a permanent fix, now this is what I was told. They also say turning the phone off and back on forces update into the phone because it reset with the network when you turn it off.
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That might actually be true. The next day after making the original post they were suddenly gone. I have not seen them since. It must be a bug they have to work out.
Thank you.
I had about 6 of those notifiers come up today and I immediately turned off my phone and re-started and they were all magically gone. Been texting since and haven't seen anymore.
Re-starting does indeed work as a temporary fix I suppose. Sprint should hurry up with an update already though.
Stop texts from breaking up, How?
Every time I get a long text message it's broken up into multiple messages, it's annoying because sometimes they dont all come in at the same time, or they do and i think i have a **** ton of msgs lol. It's the same on the stock messaging app and google's messaging app. Is there a setting somewhere that I've missed? It's happened with incoming msgs from iphones and android phones on different carriers.
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Stop texts from breaking up, How?
Every time I get a long text message it's broken up into multiple messages, it's annoying because sometimes they dont all come in at the same time, or they do and i think i have a **** ton of msgs lol. It's the same on the stock messaging app and google's messaging app. Is there a setting somewhere that I've missed? It's happened with incoming msgs from iphones and android phones on different carriers.
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There is little you can do, it is the carrier of the sender that is doing it. Many carriers limit the number of characters you can have per text. So if they go over it gets broken into multiple text messages. It is not an issue on your end.
I also hate this.. When I had att I didn't have this problem..
Wasn't there an option to send messages bigger then a # of characters through MMS instead of using normal split SMS?
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Wasn't there an option to send messages bigger then a # of characters through MMS instead of using normal split SMS?
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Yes I think there is. This is for sending messages though. When receiving a message it depends on how the senders app sends it.
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Cbass15 said:
I also hate this.. When I had att I didn't have this problem..
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I think att and t-mobile are able to send messages without breaking it up after 150 characters.
Easy fix, just make hangouts your default SMS app...
Otherwise you're at the mercy of the carrier.
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Easy fix, just make hangouts your default SMS app...
Otherwise you're at the mercy of the carrier.
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I noticed hangouts fixes a lot of messaging problems.. Why is this? If you don't care to elaborate. ?
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I noticed hangouts fixes a lot of messaging problems.. Why is this? If you don't care to elaborate. ?
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Just a guess, but I'd say it's likely due to being Google's app and having tighter integration with the framework than carrier based bloat.
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Easy fix, just make hangouts your default SMS app...
Otherwise you're at the mercy of the carrier.
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Yeah hangouts works great. Only problem I have is you can't send or receive mms while on wifi calling.
Now i have always had that issue but my GF gets all my messages as one no matter how long i make it without turning it into an MMS and hers to me get chopped up. We both have sprint. And she has an S5.
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Now i have always had that issue but my GF gets all my messages as one no matter how long i make it without turning it into an MMS and hers to me get chopped up. We both have sprint. And she has an S5.
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Just tried this sending myself a very long text via Wi-Fi on Sprint messaging app; it does work to combine the messages without converting to MMS.
Like others have said variables may limit results. My wife is also on my Sprint account using an iPhone 5 and her messages to me split from what I can see; don't know if hers from me split or not. Cross platform texting hasn't been reliable.
Have you tried the setting?
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Have you tried the setting?
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Initially failed to Motorola Photon Q. Had found the setting and enabled it and rebooted the phone; split the long message into 4 out-of-order texts. Did the System settings/System update/Update Profile on both phones and it works both ways. Sent the same text to to the iPhone 5 and it split. I've asked my wife to update her profile but she's busy; will try again later.
On my phone, had to defrost Samsung DM Service and reinstall Sprint Zone and let it update and opt out of EUL anonymous data sharing, agree to terms before I could update the profile.
BTW, combining the long text and sending a short text after that may have the shorter message arriving first. I actually sent an inquiry after getting notification that the long text test message had been forwarded back to me. The notice and inquiry went through before I got the combined message sent first.
I don't know if it happened to me or not.. never pay attention to it....gotta test later to see if if it's the same problem
How long is long. . I tested by sending to myself. But don't know if it is long enough.
My test text message consists of 80 words which was splitting into 4 text messages. Seems to be working between two different Android phones but still unknown if profile update will get it working cross-platform to/from iPhone. The Sprint iPhone 5 on the account seems to frequently have inability to sync texts with Android over Wi-Fi. Sometimes, it's just texting in general that the iPhone 5 loses.
For testing, just kept using the same message forwarded until it was received by both phones without the split.
May be wrong but sending it to yourself may only be an indication your phone can combine. It takes the profile update to tell Sprint you wish to use the combining method which appears to be an exception to every phone. Being on Gingerbread and CM for a long time, this is the first time I've seen the combining feature. About time! Hope it continues to work without frequent profile updates then broke again/update again.
This doesn't make sense. .i sent to my wife iPhone.. she received one full message but when she sent to me using the same text message it broke up to 4...wth
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This doesn't make sense. .i sent to my wife iPhone.. she received one full message but when she sent to me using the same text message it broke up to 4...wth
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Did you perform the profile update on both phones? Does the Sprint iPhone have the combine text option for texts?
I haven't tried the profile update and retest with the iPhone 5 yet. Haven't seen the the settings menu on the iPhone 5, either. I think that phone is still on iOS7; afraid the update would result in early upgrade.
Not on the iPhone just the note 4
Open the stock messaging app and go to text message settings and make sure auto combination is checked.
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My wife and I have been having issues with group texting since we got these phones. What usually happens is she'll receive a MMS and it won't download. I'm coming from a Nexus 6 and she from an HTC One M8, but for some reason it's much worse on her phone than it is on mine. We activated the SIM card that came with the phone. We've tried all the obvious things: resetting APNs, clearing data on the messaging app, using a different app, trying with VoLTE on and off (which I heard worked with the Z3). There's been an open ticket with T-Mobile for two weeks which hasn't really gone anywhere. It seems to happen no matter who the group text originates from. We have both iPhones and Androids in the chat.
More details here: http://forums.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?t=538029
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Same issue. Looks like the most common factors here are G4 and iPhones.
No problems here with MMS:
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No problems here with MMS:
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The issue is only with group texting.
TWN H815 here. Group texting is not supported on the stock messaging app, so I'm using Google Messenger. It has happened to me a couple of times, after upgrading to v10b. The only way I got the messages to download was to turn off WiFi.
I'm glad you decided to REACH out and ask. At least you don't feel like an OUTSIDER. Maybe its an ANOMALY. I'm not sure but when you figure it out i hope you just tell those who don't want you to fix it, "I'm a just do it!"
If you don't understand what I'm talking about let me know. I'll have my boy Andy Mineo give you a call. He's the kind of guy that always says "you can't stop me!"
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I'm glad you decided to REACH out and ask. At least you don't feel like an OUTSIDER. Maybe its an ANOMALY. I'm not sure but when you figure it out i hope you just tell those who don't want you to fix it, "I'm a just do it!"
If you don't understand what I'm talking about let me know. I'll have my boy Andy Mineo give you a call. He's the kind of guy that always says "you can't stop me!"
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LOL! That was so perfect! I'm reading and I'm like, wait a minute.... Lol
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Did you get anywhere with this? I've tried stock messenger, hangouts, and now textra. At least in hangouts/stock I'd get the message to download; in textra the message just doesn't come through. It seems to originate from:
1) Group MMS
2) First message in a new group
3) Message was sent from an iPhone
4) Pictures especially, but text seems to do it as well
If these conditions occur, I never get the message. Frustrated that it happens but not sure what to do. H811 on TMobile.
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Did you get anywhere with this? I've tried stock messenger, hangouts, and now textra. At least in hangouts/stock I'd get the message to download; in textra the message just doesn't come through. It seems to originate from:
1) Group MMS
2) First message in a new group
3) Message was sent from an iPhone
4) Pictures especially, but text seems to do it as well
If these conditions occur, I never get the message. Frustrated that it happens but not sure what to do. H811 on TMobile.
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Nope, never got anywhere. Tmobile replaced my phone and my wife's phone and they do the same thing. Super annoying.... May end up switching phones cuz the quirks are adding up.
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Did you get anywhere with this? I've tried stock messenger, hangouts, and now textra. At least in hangouts/stock I'd get the message to download; in textra the message just doesn't come through. It seems to originate from:
1) Group MMS
2) First message in a new group
3) Message was sent from an iPhone
4) Pictures especially, but text seems to do it as well
If these conditions occur, I never get the message. Frustrated that it happens but not sure what to do. H811 on TMobile.
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And we never get the message to download. If it prompts us to download the message it never comes in.
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Does it only fail while the phone is on WiFi? If so change the option in the texting app to switch on data for mms. Textra and Handcent have this I believe.
I have the same issue, some mms, both picture and group text will either not download or just never show up.
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Does it only fail while the phone is on WiFi? If so change the option in the texting app to switch on data for mms. Textra and Handcent have this I believe.
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Doesn't matter if you're on wifi or not, the problem is still there.
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Related I guess, but group messaging doesn't appear to work properly on the stock messaging app
Nope group messaging on my tm g4 is so bad. I've tried almost everything and it still won't download pics
I have this issue occasionally with Hangouts. I will get an mms that did not download from a contact (that should be part of an on-going group message) but it will not download. WiFi or LTE does not seem to matter. When on WiFi, the LTE symbol pops up in the notification bar for a second or so. For me, this only occurs to one out of 30-40 group messages. A minor annoyance, but annoying all the same.
I have not had this problem on any other device when using Hangouts. I had an immediate distaste for the stock message app, so i cannot corroborate that the issue occurs there.
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I have this issue occasionally with Hangouts. I will get an mms that did not download from a contact (that should be part of an on-going group message) but it will not download. WiFi or LTE does not seem to matter. When on WiFi, the LTE symbol pops up in the notification bar for a second or so. For me, this only occurs to one out of 30-40 group messages. A minor annoyance, but annoying all the same.
I have not had this problem on any other device when using Hangouts. I had an immediate distaste for the stock message app, so i cannot corroborate that the issue occurs there.
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It's happening regardless of SMS client. I've tried stock, Hangouts, Textra, etc and the issue persists across all of them. Mine happens much more frequently too unfortunately, same for my girlfriend.
This is getting insane
I gave up and switched phones unfortunately. Was part of a long thread and me and my wife got every last message. Amazing seeing it work correctly!
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I gave up and switched phones unfortunately. Was part of a long thread and me and my wife got every last message. Amazing seeing it work correctly!
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Did Tmo take the phones back, or did you sell them privately?