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Hello all, I'm about to purchase a Mytouch Slide for use with AT&T, and wanted to make sure I wasn't going to have any issues with anything not working (GPS, SMS/MMS, etc.). I know I won't have AT&T 3G, only EDGE, but I can live with that. I searched but found very llittle on the subject, I'm assuming thats because both this handset, and this section of the forum, is fairly new.
Hopefully I'll be able to learn more about the handset in the next few weeks, and be abe to start helping others around here too. This appears to be a rather productive, professional forum. To that end, I'll say thanks in advance
What exactly are you asking.
So far the only people I know of, that can unlock this Phone is T-Mobile. Also, you must have an account in good standings & be a customer longer than 3 months..
eugene373 said:
So far the only people I know of, that can unlock this Phone is T-Mobile. Also, you must have an account in good standings & be a customer longer than 3 months..
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What, really? So, I can't just buy one from, anywhere, and go use it? I'm new to this whole unlocking thing (CDMA background, and I work for a CDMA carrier), so I'm not really sure how the unlocking process even works. I guess that means I'd be much better served purchasing one that is already unlocked?
Well you can ask them lol but yah Check local listings new mytouch slides are only 300 and get them unlocked idk XD sorry
TakoLuffer said:
Well you can ask them lol but yah Check local listings new mytouch slides are only 300 and get them unlocked idk XD sorry
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I'm sorry, I don't understand what your post says. The MyTouch Slide is significantly more than $300 new. It was posted above that they can't be unlocked. Are you stating that infact isn't true, and they can be?
kendogg41 said:
What, really? So, I can't just buy one from, anywhere, and go use it? I'm new to this whole unlocking thing (CDMA background, and I work for a CDMA carrier), so I'm not really sure how the unlocking process even works. I guess that means I'd be much better served purchasing one that is already unlocked?
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unlocking works the say way it does for CDMA as it does with GSM. The only difference is instead of having to take my GSM phone to my carrier (or call them) to have my ESN number changed to my new unlocked phone like i would have to do with a CDMA phone. I can just pop my SIM card into my new unlocked GSM phone.
Even if you work for a CDMA carrier you should know that. If you work for any cell phone carrier you should know that
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unlocking works the say way it does for CDMA as it does with GSM. The only difference is instead of having to take my GSM phone to my carrier (or call them) to have my ESN number changed to my new unlocked phone like i would have to do with a CDMA phone. I can just pop my SIM card into my new unlocked GSM phone.
Even if you work for a CDMA carrier you should know that. If you work for any cell phone carrier you should know that
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I understand the idea behind being able to take my sim card out of one GSM phone, and put it into another. The network looks for the info on your sim, not your ESN/MEID. And honestly, the only carriers that 'unlock' any CDMA phones currently are a couple of the pre-paids (MetroPCS & Cricket) as far as I know. You can't take a Verizon phone to Sprint, or visa versa. I work for a MetroPCS retailer, I know all about flashing CDMA phones to the MetroPCS network, and it's alot more than simply opening it up to be able to be used with anybody. Not to mention needing to use a 3rd-party flashing software that will flash Metro info to the device, as well as extract the MEID from the handset and add it to the MetroPCS database so the MetroPCS activation system will recognize it as a usable handset. So, it's really not a fair comparison.
Regardless, it still leaves my question unanswered. I've never dealt with GSM phones outside of simply buying a new one at the AT&T store. Being able to 'unlock' it to use with any carrier is a new idea to me. So, instead of everybody telling me I'm stupid and that I should know how it works, can ANYBODY point me in the direction of an explanation of what it takes to unlock a GSM phone, what changes need to be made, and why a MyTouch Slide is special WRT it not being able to be unlocked?
Im with att everything works perfectly on my slide
Virus1x said:
Im with att everything works perfectly on my slide
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Might I ask how you got yours unlocked?
I got mine unlocked from theremoteunlocker.com
Gsm phones are locked via its hardware just like how when you use your pc the bios is software interlayed into your mobo so they could lock it if they wanted to only accept the types of processors they accept e.g tmobile locked their phone (the mobo) to only accept the tmobile simcard (the processor) the unlock code is a delevoper or admin unlock code that removes the simcard lock so you can use any simcard on it
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Virus1x said:
I got mine unlocked from theremoteunlocker.com
Gsm phones are locked via its hardware just like how when you use your pc the bios is software interlayed into your mobo so they could lock it if they wanted to only accept the types of processors they accept e.g tmobile locked their phone (the mobo) to only accept the tmobile simcard (the processor) the unlock code is a delevoper or admin unlock code that removes the simcard lock so you can use any simcard on it
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Got it, I just figured that out from reading the website that you said you used. SIGNIFICANTLY easier task than 'unlocking' a CDMA handset. I've already sent them an email, if I can infact get one unlocked, I'll be buying one this week. Thanks!!
Yep best phone have trumps iphone
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well where did u get urs unlocked from
Look around on tmobiles website, the have the conditions for giving you a unlock code posted. If you meet the conditions they will email you the unlock code.
I did it with my slide, I called them Friday and they emailed me a unlock code by Monday. Free and easy.
Found the URL. http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm51885.xml
There you go...
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Im with att everything works perfectly on my slide
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I'm assuming by perfect you're not including 3G since the slide isn't set or rather, doesn't contain the correct radio module to use AT&T's 3G band. Or does it and we're being lied to by the carriers (no surprise there) hmm...
I currently have the t-mobile version of the GS3 and the 14 day return policy for my phone will end on monday if i dont return this phone back i will get tied into a contract again, what i have been thinking about doing is returning this phone to t-mobile, then go to my local at&t store and buy their version of the gs3, under a no commitment price of $550. i would like to use this phone on ST (straight-talk), will this work? i have been getting mixed answers some people say they couldnt buy a phone no contract because they were not current customers of at&t, my other main reason for switching out from t-mobile is my crappy service 3g does not exsist in my town for t-mobile but does with every other carrier.
You shouldn't have an issue in buying outright if you go to a Corporate store, NOT an authorized dealer or national retail such as Best Buy or Wal-Mart. I should know, I work at an AT&T corporate store.
Also, you will need to SIM unlock the device first, which is easy and cheap, since you can buy the codes on eBay for a few bucks. After that you will also need to add/change the APN settings to that of StraightTalk, but after that you'll be up and running.
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You shouldn't have an issue in buying outright if you go to a Corporate store, NOT an authorized dealer or national retail such as Best Buy or Wal-Mart. I should know, I work at an AT&T corporate store.
Also, you will need to SIM unlock the device first, which is easy and cheap, since you can buy the codes on eBay for a few bucks. After that you will also need to add/change the APN settings to that of StraightTalk, but after that you'll be up and running.
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ok thanks i needed this info, when you say sim unlock do you mean that the phone can only be used with at&t sim cards? so i would have to sim unlock it to run off the at&t based sim card?
He means you'll have to by an unlock code to be able to use it on OTHER carriers besides at&t and since you're buying it outright ..you should be able to get the unlock for free.
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He means you'll have to by an unlock code to be able to use it on OTHER carriers besides at&t and since you're buying it outright ..you should be able to get the unlock for free.
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AT&T will not give it to you the unlock code unless you have a good standing account, which he doesn't. Corporate stores do not have access to the system (well, not that part specifically) to be able to generate them.
Ebay would be much less of a headache.
You won't need to unlock if you use straight talk. You just order an att SIM from straight talk online(there is an option for t mobile also). You will have to update the apn info and maybe mms settings. I just recently did this for a locked att iPhone 4. I don't think lte will work.
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So I'm subscribed to the Verizon M( forum, there are no ROM posts popping up over there. Just so I'm clear, can roms from this forum be used on a Verizon M9 or no?
Thanx for answering my noob question.
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So I'm subscribed to the Verizon M( forum, there are no ROM posts popping up over there. Just so I'm clear, can roms from this forum be used on a Verizon M9 or no?
Thanx for answering my noob question.
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I have never flashed a custom ROM before but as long as you unlock your bootloader through HTC Dev, you should be good to go
Verizon does not allow bootloader unlock. No root for Verizon until exploit is found
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Verizon does not allow bootloader unlock. No root for Verizon until exploit is found
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Oh wow I wasn't aware of that. I bought the dev edition straight from HTC instead of going through AT&T so that I could avoid all of the carrier bloatware., but I didn't realize that they also lock down the bootloader. Verizon and AT&T are really POS carriers. They either lock you into a 2 year contract for a subsidized phone or make you pay full price for the phone over 12-18 months and then lock down the bootloader so you can't actually own your device. My advice, unless you have Verizon (HTC doesn't sell a CDMA unlocked phone), buy directly from HTC and you can do the bill me later option with Paypal and then just pay for it over a year. We need to stop giving carriers our money until they actually change their ridiculous practices.
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Oh wow I wasn't aware of that. I bought the dev edition straight from HTC instead of going through AT&T so that I could avoid all of the carrier bloatware., but I didn't realize that they also lock down the bootloader. Verizon and AT&T are really POS carriers. They either lock you into a 2 year contract for a subsidized phone or make you pay full price for the phone over 12-18 months and then lock down the bootloader so you can't actually own your device. My advice, unless you have Verizon (HTC doesn't sell a CDMA unlocked phone), buy directly from HTC and you can do the bill me later option with Paypal and then just pay for it over a year. We need to stop giving carriers our money until they actually change their ridiculous practices.
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AT&T phones are easy to unlock the bootloader (choose Other @ htcdev.com) / Only Verizon blocks unlocking
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Oh wow I wasn't aware of that. I bought the dev edition straight from HTC instead of going through AT&T so that I could avoid all of the carrier bloatware., but I didn't realize that they also lock down the bootloader. Verizon and AT&T are really POS carriers. They either lock you into a 2 year contract for a subsidized phone or make you pay full price for the phone over 12-18 months and then lock down the bootloader so you can't actually own your device. My advice, unless you have Verizon (HTC doesn't sell a CDMA unlocked phone), buy directly from HTC and you can do the bill me later option with Paypal and then just pay for it over a year. We need to stop giving carriers our money until they actually change their ridiculous practices.
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what's the difference in paying the carrier for the device over a period of time or giving it all to htc at once? You don't actually think the carriers are going to give you a discount do you?
I will give you that the locked bootloader is annoying I don't believe we're providing enough $$ to verizon to make a difference.
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what's the difference in paying the carrier for the device over a period of time or giving it all to htc at once? You don't actually think the carriers are going to give you a discount do you?
I will give you that the locked bootloader is annoying I don't believe we're providing enough $$ to verizon to make a difference.
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That's the whole point, if you do the ATT Next plan or the equivalent plan for Verizon, you will pay the full price of the phone over 12-18 months (depending on which plan you choose), but they give you a phone with a locked bootloader and a SIM lock. If you go through HTC though, you will pay full price (obviously), but you can opt to do bill me later with PayPal and pay it off over a year with no interest. By going through HTC though, you can get a SIM unlocked phone and if you go with the dev edition, the bootloader comes unlocked (no need to go through HTC Dev). Unfortunately for Verizon users, if you want a CDMA phone that has an unlocked bootloader, then you'd need to buy an unlocked (SIM) HTC One M9 from Sprint and then unlock the bootloader via HTC Dev since HTC doesn't sell CDMA phones themselves. To be honest, I'm never going to buy a carrier branded phone again. They come with too much bloatware, they're sim locked, and you have to wait for the carrier to push software updates. In summary, it's ridiculous that carriers allow you to buy a phone, but not really own it.
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Oh wow I wasn't aware of that. I bought the dev edition straight from HTC instead of going through AT&T so that I could avoid all of the carrier bloatware., but I didn't realize that they also lock down the bootloader. Verizon and AT&T are really POS carriers. They either lock you into a 2 year contract for a subsidized phone or make you pay full price for the phone over 12-18 months and then lock down the bootloader so you can't actually own your device. My advice, unless you have Verizon (HTC doesn't sell a CDMA unlocked phone), buy directly from HTC and you can do the bill me later option with Paypal and then just pay for it over a year. We need to stop giving carriers our money until they actually change their ridiculous practices.
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I bought mine off the HTC website for Verizon and the bl can't be unlocked as far as I know. Lol unless I totally read your post wrong. I do apologize if I did
seshaz said:
I bought mine off the HTC website for Verizon and the bl can't be unlocked as far as I know. Lol unless I totally read your post wrong. I do apologize if I did
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You actually mean you can't? Did you try htcdev?
Balian67 said:
You actually mean you can't? Did you try htcdev?
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Yeah I tried, it's the Verizon model I don't think it's anything different than what you get in store.
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Verizon does not allow bootloader unlock. No root for Verizon until exploit is found
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This looks like an old thread but just to clarify there are exploits we can use a Java Card to unlock just find someone nearest you in the Verizon HTC One M9 Java Card thread. We have s-off and root. (just in case someone new see's this thread)
I'm currently on a Verizon HTC One M7 and due for am upgrade. Rather than doing the two year subsidized contract, however, I am considering buying an unlocked version of the phone on Swappa for $400 or so and then just bringing that phone to Verizon.
Is this possible? Back in the day I recall that wouldn't work because Sprint and Verizon used CDMA bands while the rest used GSM with Sim cards and the like, but I thought I remember reading that it's no longer a problem on Verizon.
So can I buy an unlocked M9 and bring it over or does it have to be a Verizon specific model to work?
Thanks in advance.
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Aganar said:
I'm currently on a Verizon HTC One M7 and due for am upgrade. Rather than doing the two year subsidized contract, however, I am considering buying an unlocked version of the phone on Swappa for $400 or so and then just bringing that phone to Verizon.
Is this possible? Back in the day I recall that wouldn't work because Sprint and Verizon used CDMA bands while the rest used GSM with Sim cards and the like, but I thought I remember reading that it's no longer a problem on Verizon.
So can I buy an unlocked M9 and bring it over or does it have to be a Verizon specific model to work?
Thanks in advance.
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Both the M8 and M9 will work well in the Verizon network. Honestly, the M8 is every bit as good
as the M9. Both will be updated to next Android operating system - Marshmallow. I personally like the M8
power switch placed on top right for useability, but that's personal to each user. Both have great screens and custom
roms built for them. Swappa is a great place to start your hunt after you decide which one you want.
p.s. Only get a Verizon CDMA phone, don't mess with AT&T GSM. - it IS specific due to which bands are active in the phone. It can be unlocked after S-0ff with card or clip.
So then you still need a Verizon specific phone to use their network. Gotcha.
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Aganar said:
So then you still need a Verizon specific phone to use their network. Gotcha.
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Not necessarily, but it's a massive headache to get it to work in most cases. I haven't personally done it with the m8 or m9 but I have with other phones. It's not like the nexus or motto x where you can just pop the card in and go (now that Verizon finally whitelisted the non Verizon sold versions of both). If it isn't whitelisted and you get it to work they tend to complain that you're using an unauthorized device and won't help you with network issues, etc. So TLDR get a Verizon version or a phone meant to be truly compatible with all carriers like the motto x, nexus 6, or the two new nexi released today.
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So I went ahead and bought an M9 through swappa. Do I need to take it to Verizon to activate, or can I just pop in the SIM card from my M7?
Aganar said:
So I went ahead and bought an M9 through swappa. Do I need to take it to Verizon to activate, or can I just pop in the SIM card from my M7?
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You may need to go get a new sim card from a store or have vzw send you one for VoLTE to work, but I may be wrong, you may be able to pop it in and just activate the VoLTE on your MyVerizon.
Enjoy M9
Aganar said:
So I went ahead and bought an M9 through swappa. Do I need to take it to Verizon to activate, or can I just pop in the SIM card from my M7?
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You'll need a sim card cutter or a new sim, going from m7 > m9.
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You may need to go get a new sim card from a store or have vzw send you one for VoLTE to work, but I may be wrong, you may be able to pop it in and just activate the VoLTE on your MyVerizon.
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Aganar said:
So I went ahead and bought an M9 through swappa. Do I need to take it to Verizon to activate, or can I just pop in the SIM card from my M7?
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If you go to a corporate store (one that doesn't say premium retailer) and take the phone and your old phone with you they will give you a new sim for it and activate it for free.
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If you go to a corporate store (one that doesn't say premium retailer) and take the phone and your old phone with you they will give you a new sim for it and activate it for free.
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Funny, I didn't read this reply but ended up having to do that anyway because I had forgotten my billing PIN and the retailer said I'd need to go to a corporate store to reset it. Glad I did, the retailer store wanted $25 for a new SIM card.
So in case anyone else tries this, the answer is : no. The M7 card doesn't fit in the M9. But the corporate store gave me a new one and activated it for free.
That's odd...I bought an unlocked HTC One M9 and it wouldn't work on Verizon I ended up having to buy the Verizon version.
I just call the vzw 1-800 number and ask for them to send me a SIM card, they will send 1 free one without issue.
I've had 3-4 sent over the past years since nano and never been turned down. I like to have a backup laying around.
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woodfinx said:
That's odd...I bought an unlocked HTC One M9 and it wouldn't work on Verizon I ended up having to buy the Verizon version.
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No, that's not odd. He got a Verizon phone. Unlocked does not mean it works on Verizon. Unlocked only means that a phone is not locked into a specific carrier. It does NOT mean that the phone is compatible with every carrier's network. Verizon uses a CDMA network for its phones. Other than Sprint, everybody else uses a GSM network.
I'm certainly not an expert or even a techie, but I read somewhere that all 4GLTE phones operate on the same radio, which sounds like you should be able to use a 4G phone on any network, but that apparently is not the case ... maybe because 4G isn't available everywhere and phones have to be able to fall back on their 3G network? ... I'm not sure.
Bottom line, if you have Verizon, get a Verizon phone.
One final note ... that doesn't mean you have to buy your phone from Verizon. Swappa and eBay both have Verizon phones available. You just have to watch the fine print and don't trust text that says "works with any carrier." Make sure it says it works with Verizon.
So if I paid cash for the Verizon version I should be able to call them and have them lift the carrier lock. If I do that will the radio work on T-Mobile? I have an opportunity for such a good deal on the Verizon version its going to cost almost nothing. Also if this all works would WiFi calling work on T-Mobile?
What kind of deal do you have? Sounds like you might be getting on a contract thinking it gives you a cheap cast phone
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What kind of deal do you have? Sounds like you might be getting on a contract thinking it gives you a cheap cast phone
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My employer has offered to pay the purchase price but they insist I be on Verizon. I'm on a great plan with T-Mobile and I don't want to change. I might since this is the XL phone so I can't lose one way or the other.
Reddog58 said:
My employer has offered to pay the purchase price but they insist I be on Verizon. I'm on a great plan with T-Mobile and I don't want to change. I might since this is the XL phone so I can't lose one way or the other.
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Explain to them that you can buy it through the Google Store and still use it on Verizon. Otherwise I would contact VZW and see if they will be carrier locked or not if you purchase through VZW.
I read somewhere that the VZW version won't be carrier locked. I think popping in your T-Mobile SIM card before you ever start it up will allow you to use it on VZW
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I read somewhere that the VZW version won't be carrier locked. I think popping in your T-Mobile SIM card before you ever start it up will allow you to use it on VZW
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So the thinking is the one SKU will have the radio support for any US carrier? And a locked bootloader doesn't matter since I am not planning on rooting it, at least not in the short term. As a cash sale I should be able to walk out with the phone and pop in my T-Mobil SIM and be online. I understand none of this is certain until I have the phone in hand.
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So the thinking is the one SKU will have the radio support for any US carrier? And a locked bootloader doesn't matter since I am not planning on rooting it, at least not in the short term. As a cash sale I should be able to walk out with the phone and pop in my T-Mobil SIM and be online. I understand none of this is certain until I have the phone in hand.
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All VZW phones are carrier unlocked. They include all gsm radios and have no issue with popping T-Mobile sims in and running. VZW has never had carrier locked devices.
If you purchase the Pixel thru VZW, it will be carrier unlocked. The bootloader is locked, and cannot be unlocked. This has been confirmed by Google and VZW.
Better to purchase thru the Google Play Store, as it will (hopefully) at least have an unlockable bootloader (if you require that).
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If you purchase the Pixel thru VZW, it will be carrier locked. Already been confirmed by Google and VZW.
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Where did you see this? I have read confirmation that the bootloader will be locked. I haven't read anything saying it will be carrier locked.
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If you purchase the Pixel thru VZW, it will be carrier locked. Already been confirmed by Google and VZW.
Buy the same phone from Google Play store, it is not carrier locked, and it has been confirmed that Wi-Fi calling and HD Voice will work with the GPS version on VZW, both by Google and VZW.
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Not true. In fact, the opposite has been confirmed. It's 100% SIM unlocked like every other Verizon LTE device has been. No Verizon phone with LTE has been SIM locked per their agreement with the FCC when purchasing a large block of LTE spectrum. The issue with getting some other Verizon LTE devices fully working on a different carrier has been band support. That doesn't appear to be an issue here.
@hollowlog @bsweetness my apologies, you are both correct (I will edit my post). I swear I read somewhere (of course I cant find it now) that they were carrier locked as well as bootloader locked (and unlockable).
Apparently reading some more, they ARE carrier unlocked, with a locked (and unlockable) bootloader.
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Not true. In fact, the opposite has been confirmed. It's 100% SIM unlocked like every other Verizon LTE device has been. No Verizon phone with LTE has been SIM locked per their agreement with the FCC when purchasing a large block of LTE spectrum. The issue with getting some other Verizon LTE devices fully working on a different carrier has been band support. That doesn't appear to be an issue here.
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This seems to be one of the most confusing aspects of the relationship between Google and Verizon. What exactly is the point of buying from Verizon? As you read the posts you see more and more reasons which are mostly due to an employer subsidized price which is also my reason. I wouldn't even think of buying from Verizon if not for the discount I will get. But in my case the discount is almost 100% of the purchase price. But what they don't subsidize is the monthly plan. So I can't pass on the phone but I want it to work on my T-Mobile sim. Verizon is not even close to the pricing on the data plan I get from T-Mobile. But maybe that day isn't as far off as it has been in the past.
So apparently Verizon Pixel/XL will receive updates at the same time as the unlocked versions do.
Shame the Verizon versions have a locked bootloader.
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So apparently Verizon Pixel/XL will receive updates at the same time as the unlocked versions do.
Shame the Verizon versions have a locked bootloader.
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I don't expect that to remain. The bootloaders on the Nexus 6 which I owned and the 6p/5x all came locked and were right away unlocked. Odds are it will get unlocked. Better odds than any other phone actually.
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Greetings all.
Not to completely hijack this thread. But I was absolutely beside myself when I saw the mention of all verizon LTE devices being carrier unlocked. I guess I had never tried it and just assumed that phones on VZW's edge payment plan, Or under contract were carrier locked like many other carriers do.
So, I set out to test it. Me and a buddy both have Note7's on VZW. Both are not even a single payment in. And we have already pre-ordered pixel XL's due to the now 2nd recall of the note 7.
Anyways, I have a T-Mobile sim from a work issued phone. Popped it in my buddies Note7 and no kidding. It worked without issue. Had to program the Tmobile APN. But it sure is unlocked.
Screenshot of LTE discovery.
http://i.imgur.com/Ua0lapj.jpg
It would however appear that the VZW Note 7 variant does not support Band 12 (Or it's disabled) as popping the same SIM in my older Nexus 6p lands the phone directly on band 12. Band 4 if I take it outside where the RSQ improves. Covering the Note 7 with my hands to attenuate the signal causes the phone to fall off LTE (Not until a damn low -128. Which is crazy) and it'll land on GSM/HSPA+.
So, Seeing my note7 work with a T-Mobile simcard squarely lands me on believing the Pixel XL will be carrier unlocked. If Verizon isn't allowed to sell a carrier locked phone due to it's FCC dealings, The Pixel is no different. I figure the way it works out is fantastic for the end user. Verizon CANT lock the phone to them. And Google I assume doesn't want that done anyways. So there's no push from either side to lock the device.
Now that bootloader. Time will tell. And I'm anxious to see the outcome.
Verizon Employee here, NO 4G LTE devices are Carrier Locked. We do not yet know on dev or employee side if bootloader lock. Verizon will not be involved in updates of software so when Google releases they get it similar to Apple at least that's what the news released today on Android Central says.
My Nexus 6 from Verizon was completely unlocked. However my S6 Edge+ was locked including the other bands necessary for T-Mobile was locked. However after the S6 Edge+ update to 6.0 it was carrier unlocked for the radio bands.
Considering my Nexus 6 was unlocked I expect the Pixel to be unlocked. However they have stated the bootloader would be locked. I would not buy one from Verizon.
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So if I paid cash for the Verizon version I should be able to call them and have them lift the carrier lock. If I do that will the radio work on T-Mobile? I have an opportunity for such a good deal on the Verizon version its going to cost almost nothing. Also if this all works would WiFi calling work on T-Mobile?
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Verizon phones are unlocked. It'll be fine without needing to call them.
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johnciaccio said:
My Nexus 6 from Verizon was completely unlocked. However my S6 Edge+ was locked including the other bands necessary for T-Mobile was locked. However after the S6 Edge+ update to 6.0 it was carrier unlocked for the radio bands.
Considering my Nexus 6 was unlocked I expect the Pixel to be unlocked. However they have stated the bootloader would be locked. I would not buy one from Verizon.
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The VZW Nexus 6 came locked. Once you had it you could go in and unlock it. It's been this way with every Nexus on VZW. So far that's the trend.
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Seems to be a bit of confusion about locked and unlocked. All Verizon LTE phones are 100% sim (carrier) unlocked per their deal with the FCC as stated above. They may not have all bands enabled in the radios to work perfectly with all carriers. All Nexus and Pixel phones are bootloader locked form Google or anywhere else you get them. All of them but the Pixel phones sold by Verizon can be bootloader unlocked after you buy them via ADB commands. The bootloader on the Verizon sold Pixel phones will be encrypted so initially they will not be unlockable. Only time will tell if a developer can find a way to unlock the Verizon bootloader.