Currently, I am using a LTE GNex, and I am eager for the new ICS update...I'm on 4.0.2, and correct me if I'm wrong, GSM users already have 4.0.4 rolling out. What's the dealio?
Thanks to Verizon.
Verizon needs to approve of the update by Google. There's a rumor going around that 4.0.5 is around the corner so Verizon users will get that instead.
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So one person said ICS would be released in Q4 which is that Sept-Dec? Either way when can I realistically expect to see a phone with ICS on Verizon?
I am thinking of sticking with my Inc until then. I love my inc, and the current options aren't great IMO (Maybe Sammy Galaxy S II) and I know as soon as I pick one up shortly after the ICS phones will come out.
Now I understand the Thunderbolt, Inc2, Bionic, and MotoDroids will probably be able to get ICS when its released (assuming they can be rooted) however here is my issue with that.
1. If ICS is anything like Honeycomb the need for physical buttons will be no longer. Therefor on older phones you will have buttons that don't work (maybe)
2. An ICS phone will be optimized for running that software. Presumably
I truly hope ICS doesn't disappoint, because as great as Android is with features...it lacks in design. I am NOT getting an Iphone, but the little animations and feel of the phone is much cleaner IMO. Hopefully ICS can capture that in its own way.
GatorsUF said:
So one person said ICS would be released in Q4 which is that Sept-Dec? Either way when can I realistically expect to see a phone with ICS on Verizon?
I am thinking of sticking with my Inc until then. I love my inc, and the current options aren't great IMO (Maybe Sammy Galaxy S II) and I know as soon as I pick one up shortly after the ICS phones will come out.
Now I understand the Thunderbolt, Inc2, Bionic, and MotoDroids will probably be able to get ICS when its released (assuming they can be rooted) however here is my issue with that.
1. If ICS is anything like Honeycomb the need for physical buttons will be no longer. Therefor on older phones you will have buttons that don't work (maybe)
2. An ICS phone will be optimized for running that software. Presumably
I truly hope ICS doesn't disappoint, because as great as Android is with features...it lacks in design. I am NOT getting an Iphone, but the little animations and feel of the phone is much cleaner IMO. Hopefully ICS can capture that in its own way.
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Realistically you should expect ice cream sandwich on verizon sometime next year the reasons for this is because google releases their latest android os to their pure google nexus devices first but we could see it on verizon this year if the LG Nexus 3 goes to verizon sometime this christmas but it will most likely be on tmobile or sprint and yes the nexus 3 will be made by LG
Well according to the latest rumors the Nexus 3 or Nexus 4G as it's supposedly named, will have 4G LTE so that means Verizon but you never know. It would be frickin amazing though; ICS, 4G LTE, UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER, and more timely updates than other phones (using timely loosely).
Looks like the new Nexus is going to AT&T.
http://www.neowin.net/news/details-emerge-on-google-nexus-4g-android-40-on-board
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Well according to the latest rumors the Nexus 3 or Nexus 4G as it's supposedly named, will have 4G LTE so that means Verizon but you never know. It would be frickin amazing though; ICS, 4G LTE, UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER, and more timely updates than other phones (using timely loosely).
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Yup AT&T has 4g lte to but for now they are using hspa + until their 4g lte is ready to roll out so its logical that it will either come to ATT or verizon but most likely since every nexus phone has been gsm it will got ATT
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Yup AT&T has 4g lte to but for now they are using hspa + until their 4g lte is ready to roll out so its logical that it will either come to ATT or verizon but most likely since every nexus phone has been gsm it will got ATT
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It seems kind of illogical to me for it to be released on AT&T if it were to have LTE because by that time AT&T would probably have minimal LTE coverage in a couple of markets compared to the 100+ Verizon plans on having by the end of the year. If I recall correctly, Verizon is at 74 markets as of the 16th I believe. It wouldn't make sense to release a "4G" phone on a network with almost no coverage... But then again, I want it to go to Verizon. Lol
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It seems kind of illogical to me for it to be released on AT&T if it were to have LTE because by that time AT&T would probably have minimal LTE coverage in a couple of markets compared to the 100+ Verizon plans on having by the end of the year. If I recall correctly, Verizon is at 74 markets as of the 16th I believe. It wouldn't make sense to release a "4G" phone on a network with almost no coverage... But then again, I want it to go to Verizon. Lol
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Well ATT bought tmobile recently so that gives them more coverage and it could go to verizon just like the nexus s went to sprint and tmobile
I don't think T-Mobile has LTE so it wouldn't increase AT&T's LTE coverage. And the merger if it happens (it probably will) won't be until early next year possibly the end of this year; which would probably be after the Nexus 3 (or 4G or whatever the hell it's going to be called) will be released.
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Why the hell can't Verizon get a Nexus device, every carrier has had one except VZ.
and AT&T? 10char
I live in the COUNTRY ( Laurens, SC ). ! So country we have no 4g yet probably won't get til 2013. Now I had the gnex nit long after it came out and my reception was HORRIBLE. At home it was around 2 bars on 3g but would get a lot of drop calls and random reboots. At work I got no bars and my signal was -120db. It was hit or miss if I got a call text or anything. In 4g area it was still about the same. So needless to say I sold it. So ahere I am a few months later ( couldn't stay away) and I have gotten another one. My concern is anyone else living in a rural area with this phone that has seen any improvement in reception after upgrading to 4.0.4? Could it have been possible that I had a bad phone or bad sim as to why I had those problems ? Or was it just those radios that where on the gnex when they 1st came out ? I am currently using my rezound just trying to see if reception is better yet because if I switch back to gnex and problems are still present I'll have to go back to Verizon and get ANOTHER sim card for the rezound since they claim they deactivate the unused sim after 24 hours
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I understand that at work it would be difficult, but when you're home you should be able to tap into your WiFi
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oxfat said:
I understand that at work it would be difficult, but when you're home you should be able to tap into your WiFi
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Well yeah wifi worked
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I'm in the country too, the country part of the country even for northern Alabama. I am lucky enough to have LTE and am very very happy with it. I just came from AT&T who had **** data just about everywhere, here at my house AT&T had Edge network. Back on topic.. I didn't have problems with 4.0.2 and I don't have problems on 4.0.4. I did just buy the phone from Verizon so I imagine I have one of the newer sim cards.. I believe improved 3g/4g switching is listed in the changelog for 4.0.4, you can find the changelog here in the SGN forums. in addition there are 4.0.4 builds both for if you are planning on staying stock or if you would rather forgo ota's and have custom recovery.
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I'm in the country too, the country part of the country even for northern Alabama. I am lucky enough to have LTE and am very very happy with it. I just came from AT&T who had **** data just about everywhere, here at my house AT&T had Edge network. Back on topic.. I didn't have problems with 4.0.2 and I don't have problems on 4.0.4. I did just buy the phone from Verizon so I imagine I have one of the newer sim cards.. I believe improved 3g/4g switching is listed in the changelog for 4.0.4, you can find the changelog here in the SGN forums. in addition there are 4.0.4 builds both for if you are planning on staying stock or if you would rather forgo ota's and have custom recovery.
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Yeah I got a new one Wednesday phone and new sim, rooted and and flashed IMM30B 4.0.4 ROM . just hadn't threw sim in yet. Don't really know what I'm waiting on.
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I know that GSM has already received OTA for 4.0.4 but is Verizon to get 4.0.4 as well or possibly 4.0.5? Anybody heard any rumors on time frame for the OTA update?
Sprint has had 2 updates, I think. Now att is rolling one out, any word on a T-Mobile update coming out? Is the att and sprint updates the same basic update?
So I am with Sprint and have the GNex but I am seeing more support for the GSM version ... so even though I have a Nexus.. is it really a Nexus? Does CDMA/LTE play a part in updates? Why doesn't h
My phone received the full Jellybean update? Is it antennas?
The GSM version by default is just going to have more support. Putting the fact that you can buy it cheaper aside, the GSM model works everywhere in the world. Compare that to the Sprint and Verizon models which are different devices for just those carriers (ROMs aren't compatible). Also consider that of the 3 models, the Sprint one probably has the smallest user base just considering the size of the carrier and how relatively recently the phone has gone on sale. The GSM model has been on sale since November 2011, the Verizon has been on sale since December 2011.
CDMA/LTE does play a part in the slowness of updates, basically because the carriers get involved. They have to test the updates on their networks (quite strenuously) before they give the OK to put the update out. We'll see how long Sprint takes (we've yet to get an update for the Sprint model), but we know that Verizon does take a while to push their updates. Your phone will get the Jelly Bean update, it'll just take a while.
The reason why the Sprint Galaxy Nexus isn't an "AOSP device" is simply because Google and Sprint haven't come to terms on their ability to license and distribute the proprietary radio parts with the rest of the Android code. They're currently able to license these for the Verizon model (this is new), and don't need to get specific carrier permission to use the GSM parts.
Your phone is a real Nexus. It'll get updates and will hopefully soon be an AOSP device too. You just have to realize that when the carriers (CDMA specifically) get involved, things get a little weird and not all phones get treated equally.
All of that being said, if you're interested in ROMs and development, I'm sure there will be plenty of great options for you on your Sprint model. If you're not interested in hacking (and that's okay!), then just patiently wait for the OTA and enjoy your device for what it is today.
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The GSM version by default is just going to have more support. Putting the fact that you can buy it cheaper aside, the GSM model works everywhere in the world. Compare that to the Sprint and Verizon models which are different devices for just those carriers (ROMs aren't compatible).
CDMA/LTE does play a part in the slowness of updates, basically because the carriers get involved. They have to test the updates on their networks (quite strenuously) before they give the OK to put the update out. We'll see how long Sprint takes (we've yet to get an update for the Sprint model), but we know that Verizon does take a while to push their updates. Your phone will get the Jelly Bean update, it'll just take a while.
The reason why the Sprint Galaxy Nexus isn't an "AOSP device" is simply because Google and Sprint haven't come to terms on their ability to license and distribute the proprietary radio parts with the rest of the Android code. They're currently able to license these for the Verizon model (this is new), and don't need to get specific carrier permission to use the GSM parts.
Your phone is a real Nexus.
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Thanks for your feedback but in general isn't Sprint closer to Google than any other carrier? Hasn't Sprint shown the most support to the Android team? I.E Google wallet and Nexus S 4G?
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Jess813 said:
Thanks for your feedback but in general isn't Sprint closer to Google than any other carrier? Hasn't Sprint shown the most support to the Android team? I.E Google wallet Nexus S 4G?
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Just because Google and Sprint decided to try and do things like Google Voice Integration and Google Wallet doesn't mean that they'll be able to come to terms on a licensing agreement for proprietary CDMA and LTE code.
Not to mention that there has been some friction between the two over the time since the NS4G has launched. Remember, Google launched the Galaxy Nexus on Sprint over 6 months after it became available worldwide (GSM) and on Verizon (CDMA/LTE). That doesn't seem to be something that would happen if they were really that good of buddies. Sure Verizon likely had a good agreement ($$$) with Google to have exclusivity, but if Google really wanted to launch a Sprint model they could've.
So explain to me why CDMA takes longer than gsm? What do the radios have to do with it ?
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Jess813 said:
So explain to me why CDMA takes longer than gsm? What do the radios have to do with it ?
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CDMA is not open source like GSM, so they have to add in all the proprietary code for the CDMA versions.