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So, got mine today from mobile fun, link Below.
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/bizlink-mhl-to-hdmi-tv-out-adapter-black-p29839.htm
Mobile Fun's mini Video Review
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnU5F_0TyZI&feature=player_embedded
First of all it works, the most important thing, it works well in fact and my 1080p videos look fantastic, those I have downloaded and those I have recorded myself with this phone, they really do look great and a HD TV. So for the measly price of 15-20 sheets its worth it regardless of the issues below.
The only problem:
For those that didn't know, i.e, didn't do their homework, you cannot just plug this in and it will work, it needs power. Now I knew about this and didn't really see it is an issue as I hadn't really imagined how this would look, work and feel. Well I can say that for me (only my opinion) its a bit of a mess, its far from elegant. Basically you have to plug in a usb cable into the adapter first, this powers it, then plug the adapter into the Phone and then the hdmi into the adapter and TV. This is all easily done but like I say it is far from a more elegant one cable solution that doesn't need power and doesn't need an adapter. For me this was my first real disappointment with this phone, a floating turd in an otherwise lake of glittering gold.
Now it could be argued that I knew about this and that I shouldn't be disappointed but I am, the whole thing in your hand just feels ungainly, something you are not going to know until you put it all together. I really don't like the idea that you have to have a second cable to power it either, again I know this so I don't need this pointing out but people should be aware of this drawback, however minor.
Summary (for those who can be arsed to read)
1. It works really well, HD stuff looks fantastic.
2. Its not an elegant solution as you need a usb cable to power the adapter itself.
What about the official Samsung one? That one is probably much better.
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diehard2222 said:
What about the official Samsung one? That one is probably much better.
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marginally better in that the USB input is place in line with the cable and so when inserted it doesnt jut out at a right angle.
This Phone is never going to need MHL, its too early for the tech I think, its a fail for me, should have taken the same route as the LG2x, although even with this issue the sg2 is still the best phone on the market.
Hi. I have expansys version for £13. Also works great. But with yours whilst in use, does the phone keep charge or charge up whilst in use. With mine I find so far that even though the phone is charging whilst connected to the tv, it looses charge
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stoolzo said:
marginally better in that the USB input is place in line with the cable and so when inserted it doesnt jut out at a right angle.
This Phone is never going to need MHL, its too early for the tech I think, its a fail for me, should have taken the same route as the LG2x, although even with this issue the sg2 is still the best phone on the market.
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Maybe thats true for you, I'm using and loving MHL on mine.
ripnard said:
Hi. I have expansys version for £13. Also works great. But with yours whilst in use, does the phone keep charge or charge up whilst in use. With mine I find so far that even though the phone is charging whilst connected to the tv, it looses charge
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Dont worry - sorted it. Stoppped overclocking to 1.5ghz and using performance govenor (DOH!) and I can now stream 1080p from youutube over wifi (only works through full fat desktop internet browser mode btw, not via the youtbe app or youtube in mobile broweser page mode) with mobile data off and still charges the phone at the same time!
Wow 1080 video over internet wifi straight to tv. This phone rocks!
my only gripe with this adapter is that it requires power, if this port was just put in place to allow charging when playing this would have been fine, its just the fact you cannot use he adapter at all without an extra the power source.
I wonder what it actually is needing the power for.
The problem here is that there is no MHL compliant TV yet afaik.
Cause the MHL port in a TV would provide power to the phone without needing another cable.
You'd want it plugged in anyway. I can see the battery lasting an hour playing 1080P video outputting internally and externally at the same time.
Do you still have to have an external power source on the official samsung MHL adapter?
If so, I really doubt I'm buying one
In other words, I need to have a PC or power contact for it to work?
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Hey,
is the output really 1080p (if you have a movie which is 1080p), or is it Android´s/ the phone´s native resolution?
just wondering
bye
Its the phones resolution unless you're in the video player, in which case it outputs it in HD if the source file is HD (does 1080i for compressed video, I've heard it will do 1080p with un-compressed video, but not tried yet to confirm).
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I wonder what it actually is needing the power for.
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Probably for the MHL-to-HDMI bridge chip and any support electronics. Note that once MHL-capable TVs enter the market, it may be possible to use a straight-through passive cable, especially if the MHL-capable TV provides charging input to the phone as promised.
can someone tell me what is the cost for a good cable in us dollars?
Wouldnt it make sense for there to be an option to turn the phone screen off when outputting to the TV?
i orderd mine from clove, still waiting for my order..
I ordered this cable just now at mobilefun, but I made an error in my phone number. Wanted to press the escape button so the page wouldn't continue but it was too late. Lol .. anyway I'm sure it'll be fine. Although, I didn't receive a confirmation email yet
"Expected back in stock: 4-8 days" Grrrr
Official Samsung cable is on Amazon UK at the time I'm posting this for £17.99
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004ULZ0IW
Not sure I really need one but a heads-up for those who want it.
Edit: "Usually dispatched within 1 to 4 months"! - oh well maybe I'll order it and see if I need it when it gets here...
i am using the official samsung hdtv adapter/hdmi adapter. just got it today.
the quality of the output video is fantastic...
only gripe is similar to what was mentioned. have to get it powered before it can be used..
sighs..
Hey guys,
I wonder if there is a way to connect our x8 with a tv, that would be nice, Seeing the extra connectors on the earphones jack, i can only assume that there is some special cable that plugs there.
Plus a bluetooth keyboard will make going online lot easier, connected to your TV?
Maybe a ebay link if someone knows?
No there is no way to connect x8 to TV, that connector is for earphones with controls
Apparently, I think there is a way See the screen on TV.
I'm sure there is an app for x8 that streams the screen to a PC. After this, you only have to connect the PC to the TV. Hope this helps.
Asycid said:
Apparently, I think there is a way See the screen on TV.
I'm sure there is an app for x8 that streams the screen to a PC. After this, you only have to connect the PC to the TV. Hope this helps.
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there is an app to stream the x8 screen to a pc? over what usb? and how do you watch it?
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you could mod the lcd flex cable to a vga/dvi plug though i dont think there is enough space for the cables and how the data is transmissions in the flax cable (what codec)...
VNC
BierLiebHaber said:
there is an app to stream the x8 screen to a pc? over what usb? and how do you watch it?
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It streams through LAN or Internet.
Check out this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reQqW3Oj0go
Asycid said:
It streams through LAN or Internet.
Check out this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reQqW3Oj0go
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nice but i think it would defy his use since if he could/wanted to connect a PC to a TV he wouldnt need the phone to surf.
BierLiebHaber said:
nice but i think it would defy his use since if he could/wanted to connect a PC to a TV he wouldnt need the phone to surf.
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But this way, he gets the keyboard too!
BTW I tried this software and I must say it's really impressive. Only backshot is that its FPS is about 4-5 what is not so much. BUT if you want to show pictures to the whole family, it can be a more easier way than to upload them to the PC.
If you have a wireless headset, you even can control your phone calls from the PC too! Not to mention that you can easily write SMS with keyboard instead of the touch screen.
BierLiebHaber said:
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you could mod the lcd flex cable to a vga/dvi plug though i dont think there is enough space for the cables and how the data is transmissions in the flax cable (what codec)...
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LOL!
Srsly, how can people even suggest things like these?
If you don't know about what you are talking about then ask first.
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Nikkopt said:
LOL!
Srsly, how can people even suggest things like these?
If you don't know about what you are talking about then ask first.
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why i suggested it since its pretty much the only way to get the x8 image on a TV screen without a PC and LAN.
plus:
I know for a fact that ppl hacked their GBCs and GBs to have a VGA connection so it should be possible... I didnt say I could do it but it would be possible.
BierLiebHaber said:
why i suggested it since its pretty much the only way to get the x8 image on a TV screen without a PC and LAN.
plus:
I know for a fact that ppl hacked their GBCs and GBs to have a VGA connection so it should be possible... I didnt say I could do it but it would be possible.
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"its pretty much the only way to get the x8 image on a TV screen without a PC and LAN" and still you insist this is possible...
And about the gameboy example, google how they did it and tell me if it's as easy and feasible as you think.
If it is possible, it's certainly not on the lcd flex..
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"its pretty much the only way to get the x8 image on a TV screen without a PC and LAN" and still you insist this is possible...
And about the gameboy example, google how they did it and tell me if it's as easy and feasible as you think.
If it is possible, it's certainly not on the lcd flex..
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yes i am insisting that it is possible but i didnt say it was feasible or easy (or should be done by me or the topc starter)
about the gameboy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fX7143X_gQ
once again not easy or feasible but that wasnt the point i was trying to make. i just said it is (read would be) possible.
BierLiebHaber said:
yes i am insisting that it is possible but i didnt say it was feasible or easy (or should be done by me or the topc starter)
about the gameboy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fX7143X_gQ
once again not easy or feasible but that wasnt the point i was trying to make. i just said it is (read would be) possible.
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This is what you said :
"you could mod the lcd flex cable to a vga/dvi plug though i dont think there is enough space for the cables and how the data is transmissions in the flax cable (what codec)..."
It just says here he could "mod" the flex so he could connect a vga/dvi plug on it, you are just unsure if the wires could fit or not, you also state that what passes tru the flex is a video stream but i'm not even touching that subject.
So ok, you just solder some wires to the flex or the flex header, attach the other end of the wires to the dvi/vga plug and you are done.
Now look at the video you sent me, the guy is using an altera dev board (looks like a cyclone II starter, which costs more than 200 dollars) to poorly convert the simple lcd signals of the gameboy pocket into vga. Now imagine doing the same thing into something 5000x more complex and that uses a completely different signaling interface. Can it be done? Probably yes, with equipment that costs thousands and thousands of dollars and an intelligent guy with solid knowledge in electronics. Imagine how many phones with hdmi you could buy with that money.
Also, it would be easier to find a video out on the SOC pins than doing that (if it has one)
Nikkopt said:
This is what you said :
"you could mod the lcd flex cable to a vga/dvi plug though i dont think there is enough space for the cables and how the data is transmissions in the flax cable (what codec)..."
It just says here he could "mod" the flex so he could connect a vga/dvi plug on it, you are just unsure if the wires could fit or not, you also state that what passes tru the flex is a video stream but i'm not even touching that subject.
So ok, you just solder some wires to the flex or the flex header, attach the other end of the wires to the dvi/vga plug and you are done.
Now look at the video you sent me, the guy is using an altera dev board (looks like a cyclone II starter, which costs more than 200 dollars) to poorly convert the simple lcd signals of the gameboy pocket into vga. Now imagine doing the same thing into something 5000x more complex and that uses a completely different signaling interface. Can it be done? Probably yes, with equipment that costs thousands and thousands of dollars and an intelligent guy with solid knowledge in electronics. Imagine how many phones with hdmi you could buy with that money.
Also, it would be easier to find a video out on the SOC pins than doing that (if it has one)
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ok i have to admit i have made it sound too easy but i didnt mean just solder wires to the felx header and plug them into a vga or dvi plug. (and yes i do know that you dont transmision video streams to the lcd...)
anyways next time I'll be carefull not to write something that i didnt think about for less that 20 secs *sry*
Isn't this phone too weak to do that anyway? ;P
Ipod classic 4th generation can do that, it is freaking let down that a 2010 phone cannot!
ivanjkd said:
Ipod classic 4th generation can do that, it is freaking let down that a 2010 phone cannot!
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It's a basic phone, if you want more features you have to buy one more expensive
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I remember i've connected my laptop to our TV via HDMI a while ago, so with this it should be done easily with one of those screen streaming programs.
Connecting a 3.5mm to 3.55mm jack cable between the line-out and line-in of the pc would also give sound.
Though i don't think you meant getting a PC with it along
The special hole along the audio cable is for microphone, if you have a Nintendo DS, you'll find the same connector below, i think.
Lol
xperia x8 + root + ginger dx v013 (2.3.5)+multitouch
1. Install DroidExplorer on your computer
2. Enable USB Debug on your device
3. Plugin the usb cable on your phone and computer (you need to have the phone drivers installed on your computer, or SE PC Suite)
4. Open DroidExplorer and find the ScreenCast or whatelse and...
5. Connect your computer to your TV
6. Thank me in this post
as other mobiles are getting docks as well, i wonder why the ion dock is the only one with usb ports (excluding livedock), others have normal hdmi port and charger only, even xperia p smart dock became without the usb ports, weird??!
IMO it's just a gimmick. It's a way for them to justify it selling for $70. Sure, it would be kinda cool to hook up a keyboard and mouse and control it that way on my big screen, but that's why I have a laptop. It is unique, though, and I like the possibilities if the firmware can be hacked for the dock to be able to do other things. With that said, I would still like to get one
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IMO it's just a gimmick. It's a way for them to justify it selling for $70. Sure, it would be kinda cool to hook up a keyboard and mouse and control it that way on my big screen, but that's why I have a laptop. It is unique, though, and I like the possibilities if the firmware can be hacked for the dock to be able to do other things. With that said, I would still like to get one
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other things like what? it has the full capabilities of usb on the go, so i can attach it to externaly powered HDD for example, i guess they removed the usb ports fearing that users may connect high power demanding devices, i even wanna try charging another phone through it
You can game on it, for example. But Sony screwed it up by making it pricey. Including dual usb ports shouldn't make the dock cost more. It's not like usb 2.0 is new, had it been usb 3.0 then maybe the price would have seemed right.
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Looks like it is out of stock at the moment, but AT&T has the SmartDock for $10 shipped. I received mine this week.
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/accessories/docks/sku6120262.html
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Looks like it is out of stock at the moment, but AT&T has the SmartDock for $10 shipped. I received mine this week.
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/accessories/docks/sku6120262.html
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Jesus... Are u blind!? LOOK AT LAST POST AND ON DATE -.- You are doing it specially? Or you are miner? Reported!
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I want to be able to plug my GS3's USB port into a wire, or maybe do this wirelessly, and then see Android screen on a large monitor and use a mouse and keyboard to intract with the display on the large screen.
I am baffled at the idea that this is not possible... so I must be missing something?
I have a little netbook that I use in this way, and the GS3 is a much more powerful device (it can play videos that the netbook cannot manage).
Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. HDMI MHL adapter.
But why? They make a pc for that.
Gs3 is not very powerful and you won't have good resolution. Productivity will be minimal.
If you want a mobile PC grab a windows 8 tablet like the surface pro.
Do you want a desktop or a mobile device?
You could buy a transformer type tablet or build a desktop for pretty cheap.
If you want this to be mobile, that's a lot of crap to carry around... How would you even power the screen? Seems like those people who bring desktops to coffee shops.
If you want a desktop, you can come build or buy one that's much more powerful for not all that much more than the cost of hooking your phone up - and then you don't have to worry about battery life draining and overheating.
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synpax said:
I want to be able to plug my GS3's USB port into a wire, or maybe do this wirelessly, and then see Android screen on a large monitor and use a mouse and keyboard to intract with the display on the large screen.
I am baffled at the idea that this is not possible... so I must be missing something?
I have a little netbook that I use in this way, and the GS3 is a much more powerful device (it can play videos that the netbook cannot manage).
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You guys don't quiet get it. I have a powerful desktop replacement and a netbook.
But I like the idea of having all this in my pocket and just plugging into a workstation at home.
And a Microsoft Surface? EEWWwwwww.
It is possible, I'm using WD Live, no keyboard use tho, but I can stream YouTube or play files from my phone onto tv using wd and some other UpnP apps.
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Surface PRO. Not a toy like an iPad or surface rt. The Pro is a productive machine.
I dont understand.. So you want to carry a keyboard, mouse, HDMI adapter, and power cable in your pocket along with your phone?
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Surface PRO. Not a toy like an iPad or surface rt. The Pro is a productive machine.
I dont understand.. So you want to carry a keyboard, mouse, HDMI adapter, and power cable in your pocket along with your phone?
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Lmao, idk why I thought this comment was hilarious
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I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for --> https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsIm9yZy52aWRlb21hcC5kcm9pZG1vdGVjbGllbnQiXQ..
synpax said:
I want to be able to plug my GS3's USB port into a wire, or maybe do this wirelessly, and then see Android screen on a large monitor and use a mouse and keyboard to intract with the display on the large screen.
I am baffled at the idea that this is not possible... so I must be missing something?
I have a little netbook that I use in this way, and the GS3 is a much more powerful device (it can play videos that the netbook cannot manage).
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If you want to be able to just plug it into yet another set of hardware at home... just go buy the stuff and plug it in.
Bluetooth is still a better deal than wired keyboard/mouse - but you still have the battery drain issue, which is why this is not a practical idea - especially since we're talking about an S3. It should be able to accept hardware input through the micro usb, but it's not really designed for that - and you'd have to get adapters and hub and why have all that crap taking up space if you already have a home system ? I wonder what would happen if you had three pieces of hardware trying to use the same micro-usb input, too (obviously, hubs work, but they have to share - and the monitor is going to want a lot of the available transfer capacity for itself) - makes more sense to just use it for HDMI to the monitor and use bluetooth for the peripherals.
If you had a phone that could run off AC only, it might fare better - since there'd be no battery constantly charging and draining and heating everything up, but the S3 won't do that.
Cool idea in theory ? Yeah. It would be great. But in practice, not so much. It would be better if the S3 could run from AC only - heck, it'd be almost a good idea. But since it can't and it lacks great cooling (since it's a compact, air-cooled phone), you're just going to be exposing the phone to high operating temperatures for extended periods of time which isn't exactly great for it.
So i've been meddling with various solutions for adding some sort of real brains to my dumb tvs, tinkering with XBMC for years, recently using plex and dlna through a server, etc etc...and i had a thought. I have an older broken down GNex collecting dust and thought what if I modded it...literally tearing the mofo apart, (its got a busted micro USB port (surprise) and damage to the glass in front...otherwise perfectly working.
here's my thoughts...
fix Micro USB, take all the guts out and perhaps mount in a new 'case'...use xbmc or plex app (got the server running already after all) might use display, might not, figured i may be able to have a permanent connection to the tv with MHL cable, use bluetooth (mouse/keyboard) or other phone/tab as remote for the nexus. mount to back of TV and bask in the media center joy...
So long and sort of it...i want to try to turn my old GNex into a GoogleTV...or some sort of thing...
Any thoughts?
I'd definitely like to see something like this done, that'll give me something to do with this baby when I retire it.
Exactly what I was thinking...just collecting dust for me know and want to breath life back into it....
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