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I just wanted to get a second opinion here. I recently after losing it a couple times re aquired a Evo 3d which is a great phone no doubt but since I am a phone nerd/feign I have been trying every way possible to get my hands on a epic touch so today I decided to call sprint to ask some questions about adding a new line. Long story short I was convinced lol and end up doing it. The line I added will be for my girlfriend although so she already has a sprint account which I will cancel using the money I make off of selling the evo 3d. Keep in mind I'm struggling hardcore paying a 750$ plus 2 bed room apartment by my self lol. Through these shenanigans and need for the latest greatest I just created a bill for next month that goes like this.....199 for the epic touch ......36 for new line fee...12 for shipping ....20 for something I don't remember .....30 for something I don't remember .....first months bill of the now 129.99 plan plus pro rated charge for it being this time of the month ......159 to cancel girlfriend's account plus anything remaining on her bill. Not to mention my old regular bill is due tomorrow and can't be payed till next week. LOL I got off the phone thinking what the hell did I just do. So I ask two questions here.....first......is this phone worth the massive bill ill see in a month? (Although future savings with the family plan)....and or is it possible to call back asap and back out now?????
Think the roof over your head is priority over a shiny phone. If you're struggling to pay rent why incur more monthly expense?
Agreed
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It's an amazing phone, no doubt about that.
But, and I apologize for how this will sound..but..wtf are you thinking? Get your **** together man. I live alone and pay $900 a month for my apt, $600 a month for my truck (payment and insurance), and the rest of the bills are pretty average for a guy living alone...looking at buying a house so the girlfriend can move in (can't have dogs here, broad's got a dog)....and to get this phone I jumped through a number of carefully crafted hoops over a 1 month time span to leave the E3D without shelling out $500 cash or, worse yet, getting suckered into adding a line....I walked out of best buy with an ET4G and $150 in store credit...I wouldn't have paid a cent more.
Seriously--dude? Get. A. Grip. It's just a phone. The E3D is a fantastic phone...if my radio didn't suck and lose calls constantly I would have stayed with it.
If you can't scheme your way into a free or marginal cost upgrade do not do it, ESPECIALLY if you (clearly) can't afford it.
I make damn good money luckily, but that doesn't make my bills any easier to deal with...I don't mean to be a fatherly with the "why do that when you don't even have a pot to piss in" talk, cuz I'm a phone geek to with a serious phone addiction, but, I'm not bleeding my finances dry to make it happen...there are ways man...and if there aren't? PRIORITIZE.
Sorry to be such a hard-ass, but, it's just a phone.
I love this phone but I also make no money, live with my parents and go to college so i am under their plan.
I think its worth it if you feel you can manage the financial burden you have done with adding the line, paying the bills and ending the other line.
However I think that living expenses should come first such as apartment, utilities and food and water.
Like I said go for it, if you feel you can handle it all. It is no one's decision but yours.
Best of luck! Hope you enjoy this phone as much as many of us here are!
Besides all the advice above which is spot on, check out the last post here - its my 10 min hands on with the epic from a 3D viewpoint ;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17757614
[Q] evo 3d users..is it worth the jump
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Agree with the other posters, I do think you have a 30 day window to cancel which I would do asap. Been there and done that with the bills not making alot of money. I have a much better job currently but right now I am the sole earner for myself/wife/little girl as the wife is still in a Master's program and we just bought a house (well I did lol) and I can't imagine doing something that would keep me from being able to put food on the table, pay all the bills etc... Just pray that nothing you miss or are late on is going to effect your credit rating. If you have ANYTHING negative on that report it takes 7+ years to go away and will continually screw you in the ass that entire time. I had an error on my report that dumped my score down to 620 from 730 and I would not have been able to buy my home if I had not caught it and fixed it. Can't imagine how I'd deal with a legit credit blemish over almost a decade...
Plus, you already had one of the best phones out there in the 3D, not sure why you needed the Epic Touch... And also, in 6 months when both phones are obsolete and triple/quad cores with high definition screens are on the horizon are you going to go through the same shaznat again? These phones are now like computers, the latest/greatest is already obsolete the moment it is released. Also we are in a stage now where dual core phones are like dual core computers were when they first came out, gimmicks. Unless you had a copy of X64 and a program written to take advantage of that shiny new Athlon 64 dual core you weren't seeing jack. I rode a single core AMD Barton 2500+ clocked to 3200+ all the way through the multi core transition from 2003 to 2009 (almost 7 years) and could still run all the games I wanted due to a simple graphics card upgrade. I'll keep riding my Epic 4G with the amazatron slider keyboard through the same dual core-high def screen phone transition and then decide what to do and I would recommend you do the same with the 3D you already have.
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Yeah....it was pretty stupid but before all the additional fees i was confident of paying it. I'm just not thrilled with the clarity of the screen outside/battery life/sound and miss all that from my epic. And not to sound snoody or dumb but I don't ever do anything involving credit usually so it's not really a concern of mine on that end. Was managing pretty welll till the girlfriend not only moved out on me but lost her job.
Not 30 days anymore, its 14 days
This is just my opinion so do with it what you want.
Girlfriend first. I would have helped her out if she was living with me and lost her job. However, if she moved out and lost her job? Well, I'm not saying I would dump her. I know I wouldn't be adding a line in her name and paying 169.99 to cancel her account and trying to sell my EVO 3d to make up the difference.
Sell the EVO 3d, you can probably get about 300 or so for it. Buy the epic4touch from ebay for 500 if you like. Then I believe you will avoid the upgrade fee because it isn't a change in contract and you will avoid cancelling your gf's contract and all the other fees you were about to face. And this way you still get to use the phone you wanted.
I think what happened here is a Sprint sells person talked you into making a plan that didn't make the much sense so that they could get some commission off of you. It happens to the best of us when we get desperate for something.
You are about to pay 170 alone to cancel a contract plus a pro rated phone bill at over 200 along with the reduced cost of the epic from sprint and not a 3rd party, which is another 200? You've already probably went over 400 with that alone and we aren't even looking at tax or their new 36 dollar change of contract fee. The monthly bill would be pushing another 170 with the 10 dollar fees and all the taxes and stuff, 129.99 + 10x2 = 149.99 and a ton of tax and fees...
pay bills first then if you have some left go for the phone
I did
Sounds to me like it would make more sense to front the $500 for the phone at retail, then sell the EVO 3D for ~$350 and apply that money twords the cost of the E4GT. Would end up costing you $150 - $200 in the end. Seems like that would be the cheaper overall way to go.
Easy. Dump the girl, get the phone. Pick up bar floozie and forget about girl but still have awesome phone.
Life is easy
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did you seriously ask if you should spend money on a new phone that you don't need or pay bills?
Sounds to me like u should have just sold the 3D for $300 or $350 and just bought the phone outright at Sprint.com for $499.99
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No fail, this kid needs to not think about buying luxury items and spend his money on necessary items.There's no need for this thread to exist.
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This is just my opinion so do with it what you want.
Girlfriend first. I would have helped her out if she was living with me and lost her job. However, if she moved out and lost her job? Well, I'm not saying I would dump her. I know I wouldn't be adding a line in her name and paying 169.99 to cancel her account and trying to sell my EVO 3d to make up the difference.
Sell the EVO 3d, you can probably get about 300 or so for it. Buy the epic4touch from ebay for 500 if you like. Then I believe you will avoid the upgrade fee because it isn't a change in contract and you will avoid cancelling your gf's contract and all the other fees you were about to face. And this way you still get to use the phone you wanted.
I think what happened here is a Sprint sells person talked you into making a plan that didn't make the much sense so that they could get some commission off of you. It happens to the best of us when we get desperate for something.
You are about to pay 170 alone to cancel a contract plus a pro rated phone bill at over 200 along with the reduced cost of the epic from sprint and not a 3rd party, which is another 200? You've already probably went over 400 with that alone and we aren't even looking at tax or their new 36 dollar change of contract fee. The monthly bill would be pushing another 170 with the 10 dollar fees and all the taxes and stuff, 129.99 + 10x2 = 149.99 and a ton of tax and fees...
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Well thought of plan, and great thinking.....I take my hat off to this kind of thinking. Sell the phone, and pay for the phone out right is way cheaper. You can buy from sprint and maybe get them to add extra 199.00 cost into your monthly bill provided that the EVO 3D sold at 300.00 also.
To be honest, sell drugs. If you are smart, ruthless but fair you can retire to a job running a pro shop in a small town after like two years. Make up a BS story, let the money do the rest of talking. Don't live flashy and after getting to know people in town start to buy into low risk real estate, you have a financial jump on everyone that took them generations to make. Then franchise a low risk business like a Subway, if anyone trys to stop you, pour money on them.
Become pillar of the community, get a street named after you, buy Samsung Galaxy S VI.
Haha...yes, lol. *Mr. Burns fingers*
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The phone is a amazing phone. Not over your house though.
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Lolol maybe I gave too much details. Rent and bills willl still get payed. Thanks for the criticism and maybe I made it sound stupid but I'm grown like the rest of you. The **** will get paid so all that side I guess I'm just wondering if this phones worth the hassle of a new line. Can't ditch the girl either. She mothers my kid lol.
Forgive me if this is already a known quantity around here, but I only just found out this evening that orders placed through Sprint for new devices can no longer be billed to your account. Apparently we now have to pay by credit or debit card up front when we want a new device.
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Forgive me if this is already a known quantity around here, but I only just found out this evening that orders placed through Sprint for new devices can no longer be billed to your account. Apparently we now have to pay by credit or debit card up front when we want a new device.
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yup found out a couple of months ...........i believe there should b a couple of threads on it
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yup found out a couple of months ...........i believe there should b a couple of threads on it
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they're saying it changed it on October 5. yet another way we're taking it in the pants as a result of Sprint getting the iPhone and another reason to never bother ordering a phone from Sprint.
yep blame that on the iphone
apple started this a few years ago, so no cash at all, even in person at the apple stores for iphones, as people were buying them stateside, and selling them overseas for huge markups, since they were not available at the time
gotta love Apple lol
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yep blame that on the iphone
apple started this a few years ago, so no cash at all, even in person at the apple stores for iphones, as people were buying them stateside, and selling them overseas for huge markups, since they were not available at the time
gotta love Apple lol
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yep, you're 100% right.
man, I was on the fence before about upgrading my Epic...there's no way in hell I'll do it now. when you look at everything that's gone lately, Sprint's shown they're willing to screw over their entire customer base for the sake of luring in new customers with this gimmick Apple crap. now they've got their big sales figures and they can all pat each other on the backs for a job well done.
do the other carriers require up front payment for their devices?
Just so you guys know, sprint is actually the last of all the big 4 carriers to get rid of bill to account for new phones. Its a fight against fraud. Cutting costs is necessary to keep providing the unlimited data plans. Saving money by reducing fraudulent purchases is one of the best ways to do this. There is a reason behind every choice the company makes. It may not always sound like the best when you first hear it but the reasons why typically justify the changes. Sprint tries really hard to provide what other carriers no longer do but there at reasons that other carriers have cut things, and with sprints new high end world phone lineup we are running into the same things.
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Just so you guys know, sprint is actually the last of all the big 4 carriers to get rid of bill to account for new phones. Its a fight against fraud. Cutting costs is necessary to keep providing the unlimited data plans. Saving money by reducing fraudulent purchases is one of the best ways to do this. There is a reason behind every choice the company makes. It may not always sound like the best when you first hear it but the reasons why typically justify the changes. Sprint tries really hard to provide what other carriers no longer do but there at reasons that other carriers have cut things, and with sprints new high end world phone lineup we are running into the same things.
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frankly, the "we need to do this to keep unlimited data" excuse has lost its appeal. all I'm seeing is a fledgling company pulling back on service in order to accommodate the iPhone and keep itself in business. as it stands now, I live in an area where my data service is horrendous. calls to Sprint are essentially pointless since I'm given an endless string of excuses as to why I can't download faster than .2 Mbps on 3G and why I can't stay connected to 4G for more than a couple of minutes. I've been with Sprint for over 10 years and I've seen all aspects of quality within the company deteriorate considerably in that time. The simple fact is that they're network couldn't accommodate the demand of all the Android devices on it; I can't even imagine what the surge of new iPhones is going to do to service.
meanwhile, we're told that every courtesy we received is being taken away in order to assure a high level of service. that would be fine except there is no longer a high level of service to maintain. I've actually had Sprint tell me that their changes aren't so bad because they're simply doing what all the other carriers do; therein lies the crux of why having 3.5 carriers dominate a nation of roughly 400 million people isn't good for anyone. a struggling company in that setting has no incentive to do anything but keep its doors open. they've lost the will to differentiate because they no longer have to; their sole concern is to avoid being subsumed by one of their competitors. most investors (myself included) doubt Sprint's ability to sustain itself beyond the next couple of years because they're a poorly managed company who've become notorious for making extremely poor decisions - this recent backpedaling from WiMax is one of the worst.
so yeah, great we get unlimited data. we'll see how well that unlimited data that Sprint's stripped away all incentives for holds up when an already super-saturated capacity is unable to withstand the demand from this gadget they've bet the farm on.
I am usually on the side of the consumer but, this time, I think if you don't have the money to pay for it, why are you upgrading? Wait a month and get it when you have the money. I don't see why it was ever an option to begin with.
The only reason I am still on Sprint is becaue they have the number one best plan for my situation. If I didn't want unlimited data, or the best cutomer service, or the coolest new phones, I would go with MetroPCS. They have the best plan for someone like that. Shop around. Get what is best for you. I'm not preaching. I just want every customer out there to be as happy as can be.
It is probably better this way. When you charge to credit card, they don't add the weird few dollars here and there taxes in the taxes and surcharges sections (this is in addition to the tax they charged on the phone purchase itself) I probably got another $5-$6 in random taxes I had to complain about to get back.
I agree that data speeds on Sprints unlimited plan sucks. I will contest to that. Sprint's network simply is being overwhelmed from all the traffic they get from all the smartphones out there. So Sprint came up with a plan. The plan is going to cost $10b over time I think it was. To come up with the money Sprint has to cut cost and create more revenue. To cut cost Sprint got rid of certain luxuries we were receiving as consumers. To create more revenue Sprint fought to get the Iphone on board (Sprint announce this was their biggest sales day ever). Simple economics. Remember Sprint is a far 3rd behind the top two cash cows we know as AT&T and Verizon. Sprint is not financially stable right now but, making these necessary moves will help us as consumer in the long run. I know you pay now, and, you want it now, but, all we can really do is wait till Sprint finish's with their $10B project in your area.
Seriously? You all look at this as "exploiting the customer"? What they got rid of was effectively an interest free credit card that people were abusing. No, doesn't make any business sense at all, certainly not.
True exploitation would be them deciding to charge interest on your balance.
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I am usually on the side of the consumer but, this time, I think if you don't have the money to pay for it, why are you upgrading? Wait a month and get it when you have the money. I don't see why it was ever an option to begin with.
The only reason I am still on Sprint is becaue they have the number one best plan for my situation. If I didn't want unlimited data, or the best cutomer service, or the coolest new phones, I would go with MetroPCS. They have the best plan for someone like that. Shop around. Get what is best for you. I'm not preaching. I just want every customer out there to be as happy as can be.
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Ive been doing bta for years without problems from sprint. The problem was me, with the subject the post is about. Im pretty impulsive at times. More that once ive had financial department calling me wanting money because im past due. I couldnt pay the price of the phone (usually full price because i was in mid contract) and my bill up to date in a month or less. I kept telling myself, after i would get my account completely paid up to date, that i wouldnt do this again and would only get another phone if i had the money in hand to pay for the phone. Sometimes financial emergencies happen that are unforseen and they can really put a person behind for awhile and its a struggle to get caught up. Thats one of my character defects, i admit it (for the first time). Its not sprint's fault for this, its mine for being impulsive and irresponsible when it comes to finances.
I dont know why i felt the need to say this, but it had something to do with the subject and i shared my experience (and foolishness) with you guys.
Shame on me, i know!
I'm right there with you man! I sold a Dell Venue Pro so I could get my Epic Touch and I still have an Atrix on At&t and am looking at over $500 if I leave At&t. All that so I could get a 1/2 inch bigger screen and a slightly faster phone. Oh well at least I got a good one, no Los or any other issues thus far.
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I just paid my Sprint bill the other day. With activation, the phone, and my normal bill, it was $578.06. No more bta? Who cares. If you don't have the money, you probably shouldn't buy the phone anyway.
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Verizon still allows billing to your account. This last carrier nonsense isn't true
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Verizon still allows billing to your account. This last carrier nonsense isn't true
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that's what I thought. quite frankly, this argument that deadbeats have ruined the bta is a bunch of b.s. because that would be a punitive major and not something supposedly introduced to insure a high level of future service. the reason why bta is a solid option is that it means not having to rely on Sprint to refund your money in the event you decide to return a recently purchased phone. what this new move does is allow Sprint access to the customer's money immediately, which is actually a better move from an accounting standpoint since funds collected can be immediately invested. however, my biggest beef with this change of policy is that like all the other changes we've endured in recent weeks, they're all being done to accommodate the iPhone. like many others, I'm not remotely convinced of Sprint's able to even stay in business long enough to see all these supposed service improvements take place, so right now (and for the immediate future) all that's happening is Sprint is pulling back on customer services to pander to the iPhone.
Like another poster said this is to accommodate fraud. I work for another big name phone company and this is a way to keep people from calling in and ordering multiple phones on an account and having them shipped and once you see that these phones were ordered and you did not order them you call sprint and they have to foot that bill. If there is a credit card used it is tied to the person who used it and fraud is dealt with easier through the CC companies because they have more info. The FCC are coming up with all these rules to help us as consumers. It kinda makes it harder but safer. Anyone who knows your information can order on your account and that is scary. We see people on this forum who call in and tell lies all the time. Fruad is no joke. If it makes it safer why not?
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Thanks for sharing this. I think you hit the nail on the head and I wish more people were willing to look at their own situation objectively and take some personal responsibility.
Sprint is a business, making business decisions. If they need to make changes to stay viable, then they should make them. If I decide at some point I don't like them, I can go somewhere else. It's the beauty of free enterprise and consumer choice.
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Ive been doing bta for years without problems from sprint. The problem was me, with the subject the post is about. Im pretty impulsive at times. More that once ive had financial department calling me wanting money because im past due. I couldnt pay the price of the phone (usually full price because i was in mid contract) and my bill up to date in a month or less. I kept telling myself, after i would get my account completely paid up to date, that i wouldnt do this again and would only get another phone if i had the money in hand to pay for the phone. Sometimes financial emergencies happen that are unforseen and they can really put a person behind for awhile and its a struggle to get caught up. Thats one of my character defects, i admit it (for the first time). Its not sprint's fault for this, its mine for being impulsive and irresponsible when it comes to finances.
I dont know why i felt the need to say this, but it had something to do with the subject and i shared my experience (and foolishness) with you guys.
Shame on me, i know!
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Who orders from Sprint anyway? There's always some place cheaper to get the phone of you're eligible for an upgrade. Ordering from places like Amazon or Wirefly at the very least saves you tax.
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My local Best Buy is great about returns and will price match any other vendor that has a unit in stock. I've never ordered from Sprint.
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In an industry where customer churn can be likened to the fearsome troll under the bridge, Sprint has launched a program designed to keep its favored subscribers around for another two years. While not everyone is eligible -- those who've upgraded less than eight months ago, corporate outfits and those in collections need not inquire -- the program lets customers buy their way out of their current commitment and become eligible for a new, subsidized handset. The promotion begins February 12th and is set to run through the 14th of April, where the amount you pay correlates to the time since your last upgrade. So if you're currently pining for the Epic 4G Touch or the iPhone 4S, just give your local Sprint store a call this Sunday. They just may be able to hook you up.
Source:http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/09/sprint-launches-early-upgrade-promo/
Nice C/P skills -_-
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It's more like they want to get rid of Wimax phones and other inventory it seems like. It's a ripoff, hardly worth the price. Ebay is cheaper
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Cleaning house getting ready for LTE
My OG Epic (Now NS4G) line is due for an upgrade in 5 months...may be perfect timing for once
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IMO opinion this is more of a contract buyout to get new user pricing than it is an early upgrade promo like the Sprint Premier Gold program was.
It makes 0 sense to pay $55 to buy out for early upgrade if you're like 1-4 months out.
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It makes 0 sense to pay $55 to buy out for early upgrade if you're like 1-4 months out.
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Keep in mind though, that we live in a world where people will happily spend well in excess of $55 to "upgrade" from something like a IPhone 4 to a 4s. Sometimes, "sense" takes a back seat to a desire to be instantaneously satisfied... lol
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Keep in mind though, that we live in a world where people will happily spend well in excess of $55 to "upgrade" from something like a IPhone 4 to a 4s. Sometimes, "sense" takes a back seat to a desire to be instantaneously satisfied... lol
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I have to agree, people at my store will pay a lot to get their upgrade now to get the phone they want now. I think a lot of it comes from people who buy cheap phones and just can't take having them anymore and will do anything to get out of that phone.
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This actually isn't a promotion. It's just a last resort offering by Retention as of right now. You pay on average $10/month remaining on your contract with an average maximum of 6 months to move your upgrade up. We've been doing it for months for customers in my stores, but it's never really been publicly advertised.
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Are you working for a corporate store or a preferred retailer? I'm a preferred retailer and would love to know how you go about doing it, and compare that to the way we do it at our store. Shoot me a PM, love to compare notes!
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Are you working for a corporate store or a preferred retailer? I'm a preferred retailer and would love to know how you go about doing it, and compare that to the way we do it at our store. Shoot me a PM, love to compare notes!
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can i be included in this? i only have a way for 2 weeks early... preferred retailer
My wife is only 2 months away from an upgrade; if she waits, she still pays 36 dollars "activation fee", or, if she does it tomorrow, its the same 36 dollars, so, if you are a month or 2 away, it doesn't cost you a dime more to do it now..
yes, i am sure its to clean out the existing inventory before the "new" network is in full swing..
WOOT, 3000 POSTS!!
I work at a preferred dealer as well, just tell your customers to call customer care and see if they can do an early upgrade. If that doesn't work have them be transferred to retentions and say someone they know was able to buy out their remaining contract and get an early upgrade. That easy. I have my upgrade still, saving it for the GSIII because I'm not stupid like some people.
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I work at a preferred dealer as well, just tell your customers to call customer care and see if they can do an early upgrade. If that doesn't work have them be transferred to retentions and say someone they know was able to buy out their remaining contract and get an early upgrade. That easy. I have my upgrade still, saving it for the GSIII because I'm not stupid like some people.
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i have an airave for that
Ok I called Sprint customer care today inquiring about the upgrade. My girl's line is due for upgrade in October and I am tired of her complaining about her Evo3d restarting all the time. So I called to see if I can get that upgrade for an Iphone for her. I was told that the new promo is only for people who's upgrade is in April or earlier and are also having phone issues. I think I'm going to call a corporate store tomorrow. Any advice or am I wasting my time? The Engadget article said if you upgraded within the last 8 months your or not eligible. I didn't upgrade this line within the last 8 months.
To upgrade or not to upgrade....
I saw this on Friday and wandered into a Sprint store on Sunday. The fella at the desk told me this was all legit and that I would need to call customer service because he could not do anything from the store (he said to ask for the "retentions" department).
I've been suffering with a Hero for the last 18 months. Loved the phone when I first got it, but it didn't take long to realize that it was not powerful enough to keep me happy. My wife is on her third Moment because everything about that phone just doesn't seem to work. I was hoping to hold out for an LTE phone but it appears those won't be dropping until late summer, and I'm not sure if we can hold out that long.
On the Sprint website, I get a message that I am eligible for $150 off a new phone on April 1 (remnants of the Premiere Program). From what I read, I'll have to pay $36 to upgrade in April or I can pay $55 now.
So my question(s) to all you Sprint people out there, am I reading all this correctly? Will I still qualify for the $150 off the new phone? Am I absolutely crazy for not waiting for LTE? Should I take the SGS2E4GT (Galaxy S 2) or hold out for the Nexus?
Thanks for the input.
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I saw this on Friday and wandered into a Sprint store on Sunday. The fella at the desk told me this was all legit and that I would need to call customer service because he could not do anything from the store (he said to ask for the "retentions" department).
I've been suffering with a Hero for the last 18 months. Loved the phone when I first got it, but it didn't take long to realize that it was not powerful enough to keep me happy. My wife is on her third Moment because everything about that phone just doesn't seem to work. I was hoping to hold out for an LTE phone but it appears those won't be dropping until late summer, and I'm not sure if we can hold out that long.
On the Sprint website, I get a message that I am eligible for $150 off a new phone on April 1 (remnants of the Premiere Program). From what I read, I'll have to pay $36 to upgrade in April or I can pay $55 now.
So my question(s) to all you Sprint people out there, am I reading all this correctly? Will I still qualify for the $150 off the new phone? Am I absolutely crazy for not waiting for LTE? Should I take the SGS2E4GT (Galaxy S 2) or hold out for the Nexus?
Thanks for the input.
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I would buy a used phone off Craig's list or something now and hold onto you upgrade for an LTE device. You can get an E4GT for around $300 and EVO 3D for much less or an Nexus 4G for even less then that.
That is what I would do because once the GN drops you know you will want it or whatever cool LTE phone comes out soon after that...
The way I read this is that they are just pro-rating your ETF (the way they all should do anyway).
In theory, it works like this:
A high end handset costs ~$600 but in exchange for signing a 2-year contract, the cell phone carrier will subsidize $400 of the cost and roll the cost of that "loan" into the cost of your monthly service. You get a new phone without as large an initial outlay of cash and they gain a steady source of income for at least the next 2 years.
In theory you should be able to bring your own phone and get service at a lower cost off-contract because you aren't paying off a subsidy but since the top 3 providers don't offer this, there is not really any benefit to not taking the subsidy. You are already paying the same monthly rate so other than not being locked into a service contract, you gain nothing financially from not taking the $400 subsidy.
Along with this, in theory, your ETF should drop by 1/24th every month as you are basically paying off the subsidy one month at a time over two years. Once again, it doesn't quite work that way. At least this is an attempt to let people pay off the remaining subsidy before signing a new contract and taking a new one.
I would prefer to just pay $600 for my phone and then pay $17 less per month (approx 1/24 of $400) with no contract but since the US market seems accustomed to cheaper subsidized handsets on contract I don't know it would ever take off much. The contracts, handset exclusives, and lack of porting options have made it so the carriers have little incentive to compete on price or plan options..but that's another topic for another day.
Well I got mine it was 40 bucks but.my Gf needs a new phone had so, iPhone 4s and she can have my day 2week old epic touch 4g
Update: I got my upgrade and the fee was added to my bill and my upgrade is now waiting. Pretty cool. I have another upgrade in August so I will se what they have then.
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I have a upgrade in October, but I'm debating to hold off for the s3 which could be a long way off or get the epic touch. I have a 3d right now but the white epic touch looks sexy.
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Hi,
I am really getting sick of my data never actually working on my Sprint SGII. I was thinking about switching to Verizon. I really love the SGII & when at home on wifi, its a great device. My concern is that when I want to use data, it never works.
My work buddy has an Iphone (not for me) on Verizon & anytime I want to check something quickly, I have to borrow his phone to look something up.
While the sprint price is great, the data never works (voice is actually OK).
I heard the Nexus is not as good as the SGII in terms of the Exonus (sorry about the spelling) processor. I dont mind if its a little slower as long as the data works.
I am very interested in CM9 & had that on my sprint Evo.
Any advice would be great now that the Nexus & any bugs are out there.
It will cost me another $50 per month but if it works, then I guess its worth it?
Thanks,
Rich
I read the newest update for the CDMA Galaxy Nexus (though not official), gives it really strong data signal. All is great on my Nexus on T-Mobile.
I was a E4GT user, got it a few days after launch. It was a HUGE improvement over my EVO 3D #FAIL. Anyway, to answer your question I left sprint for the same reason you are thinking about leaving, DATA. Sprint is always talking about how they are fixing this and upgrading that, to me its to little to late. They are behind, the rush to be first with 4G clearly did not last beyond the EVO 4G, even then complaints about DATA were everywhere! What broke the camels back for me was the iphone, since its release sprint has taken away the main reason I stayed, yearly upgrades. I was a loyal 10+ year customer and because apple told sprint I cant have a yearly iphone (I dont even want the damn thing, a little conceded apple?). We ALL lost the yearly upgrade, that was sprints ONLY perk, IMO. So moving my 2 lines over I am paying about $50 more per month for the two, it is well worth it. I have had only one dropped call in the last month, I have NEVER been without DATA when I tried to use it. That alone is worth the extra $50 per month for me! Its one of those "you get what you pay for" things with sprint. If unlimited/limited speed and connectivity DATA is OK with you then sprint has what you need. I was real nervous about leaving, a 10+ year customer and all. But when I called them and used their change of contract to null/void the contract I had with them, account services asked me if I wanted to leave over the $3 the change was costing me. I told him YES, and that was it, no offers of credit or nothing. I was shocked! I read where others were given upgrades, $100 credits per line, I didnt get ****, LOL. Not that I would have taken it, but its the thought that counts, after 10+ years they didnt give a ****! Make the move if you haven't already, you wont be sorry! Oh and the Double DATA deal is back now, even more the reason to hope aboard
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I was a E4GT user, got it a few days after launch. It was a HUGE improvement over my EVO 3D #FAIL. Anyway, to answer your question I left sprint for the same reason you are thinking about leaving, DATA. Sprint is always talking about how they are fixing this and upgrading that, to me its to little to late. They are behind, the rush to be first with 4G clearly did not last beyond the EVO 4G, even then complaints about DATA were everywhere! What broke the camels back for me was the iphone, since its release sprint has taken away the main reason I stayed, yearly upgrades. I was a loyal 10+ year customer and because apple told sprint I cant have a yearly iphone (I dont even want the damn thing, a little conceded apple?). We ALL lost the yearly upgrade, that was sprints ONLY perk, IMO. So moving my 2 lines over I am paying about $50 more per month for the two, it is well worth it. I have had only one dropped call in the last month, I have NEVER been without DATA when I tried to use it. That alone is worth the extra $50 per month for me! Its one of those "you get what you pay for" things with sprint. If unlimited/limited speed and connectivity DATA is OK with you then sprint has what you need. I was real nervous about leaving, a 10+ year customer and all. But when I called them and used their change of contract to null/void the contract I had with them, account services asked me if I wanted to leave over the $3 the change was costing me. I told him YES, and that was it, no offers of credit or nothing. I was shocked! I read where others were given upgrades, $100 credits per line, I didnt get ****, LOL. Not that I would have taken it, but its the thought that counts, after 10+ years they didnt give a ****! Make the move if you haven't already, you wont be sorry! Oh and the Double DATA deal is back now, even more the reason to hope aboard
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Damn, this sounds like my exact story! I just switched from Sprint and the E4GT to Verizon and the GN a day ago. I have been with Sprint for about 15 years and the yearly upgrade was continuing to keep me with them. I added a new line last year and was told and had my account noted I would receive 1 more yearly upgrade on that new line in 2012 after the line has been active for 3 months. Well it never showed up that I will be eligible in Sept 2012 so I called to discuss.
After 2 hours on a phone w/ a supervisor who actually saw the note on my account and read it back to me that it said they told I would get 1 more yearly upgrade on my line in 2012. His answer is they gave me the wrong information and he cannot honor it. His response was he would normally let someone out ETF free for this but I can get out free anyway this month so really there is nothing he can do.
So in order to get an upgrade on my line, I simply canceled the line then added a new line with my E4GT I was already using and then had a discount I could use on the line whenever I wanted. So sure, Sprint did me wrong but in the end I still got a discount available on a line...I really wanted to go to Verizon but the capped data plan was killing me, that was until they ran the double data promo! I said peace out Sprint and ported my number within 14 days to Verizon...
First impression of the phone was the screen felt small compared to the E4GT. The bottom buttons didn't make sense because they took up screen real estate. I ran my E4GT in a 160 screen density so the resolution wasn't a big change for me. Anyway I need to run...Bottom line first day didn't like the phone as much but really started liking it as the day went on. When I have more time later I will add some more comparisons for you.
As far as speed, take away what the papers say the GN is fast and I do not experience any lag what so ever. From my quick experience I would not know it was less powered then the E4GT.
Eman - I am debating going for the 10gb for $50. I know its more than sprint but whats the point of unlimited data if it doesnt work?
I left sprint for the same reason. I came from the nexus s. But I was able to get out of contract with sprint with no ETF. And I couldn't be more happier now. Verizon has super fast data. You wonr be disappointed.
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Howdy,
Noob here, looking to get a Note 2, but need a little advice to make sure I'm not overlooking something.
Background:
I currently have a Galaxy S II that is way too sluggish and frustrating (was my first smart phone, purchased a year ago).
I’m with T-mobile on their “value plan” and have about a year left on my contract. I’ve been with them for over 10 years.
Options:
Is my only option to pretty much pay for a Note 2 at full price ($650)? I cannot find any deals online for a SGH-T889. The guy at the T-mobile store said it wouldn't even make a difference if my contract was up or not -- price for the phone would be the same. Wow.
Any ideas?
I suppose I could try to call their customer retention line but I feel like they are not going to do much for me, since I’m pretty powerless – being locked into a contract with a year left. I really don’t want to leave T-mobile anyway.
The only other thing I can think of...: It sounds like there is probably going to be a rebate sale on Valentines day, but there are no details out yet – just grand speculation that there's going to be a big sale. Does anyone know if to qualify for one of their rebates, you typically have to be out of contract? I'm guessing "yes".
I also looked on craigslist and eBay for used Note 2s, but apparently people think they are made out of gold – barely discounted. For the price they are asking I’d just rather purchase new.
Thanks for the help.
-Nate
first of all, you ask in the wrong section because this is General section...your question should be in T-Mobile Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting Section
"The guy at the T-mobile store said it wouldn't even make a difference if my contract was up or not -- price for the phone would be the same." i think this isnt right because as a value plan customer you have the right to upgrade your phone anytime and when your 22 months is up you will receive discount to upgrade your phone with lowest price.
i get my note 2 for only $180 with renew 2 years contract at a retail store. you should try to check the price around those retail stores.
Thanks man.
You get a deep discount at the end of your contract and you are on a "value" plan? Or are you on a "classic" plan?
Regardless, if I don't want to wait that long, I'm pretty much stuck paying full price, right?
PS -- Sorry if this was the incorrect area; feel free to move post
Value plan you pay full price with money up front then $20 payments a month after.
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I ran into the same thing. On the value plan, you pay retail, but in payments. So you would probably have 200-300 down and 20/mo if you have the available credit on your account. You can upgrade anytime, price is always the same. I am on prepaid ($30/mo 5GB is hard to beat if you don't want lots of minutes). I did the math and figured that I would break even paying out of pocket full price in less than a year. That's worth it to me to save up for a while. At the end of the day, it's up to you. I'm loving the Note2, excellent device. Even better if TMO really does drop LTE as fast as they plan to.
They are just trying to boost there sales rate for personal promotions thats why I hate tmobile sales man they always try to push you into something ur not sure about well just look into it buddy
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Even with the payment plan, you essentially just pay full price for the phone. There's another option though. You could try going through craigslist or ebay if you trust them. You would save a little plus tax but the down side is that they could report the phone as missing. But in my experience of buying phones off craigslist, or never happened to me. You just have to find a reliable seller. I bought my t mobile note 2 off CL around 2 weeks ago for $400 brand new in box. The seal was still on the box and I tried my sim to make sure it worked and it did. If you go through ebay, you would have buyer protection though ebay, so if anything goes wrong you could dispute with ebay. Buying from ebay would also allow you to buy insurance for your phone through a third party. Square trade is a good company to get the insurance from.
natesi,
The Tmobile rep was right, you are going to more or less pay full regardless of the timing of your purchase. You are on the "Value" plan, pure and simple, its a service only plan and its bare bone. Other plans allows you to get a discount (subsidized priced) phone, but the trade off is higher plan prices.
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i think this isnt right because as a value plan customer you have the right to upgrade your phone anytime and when your 22 months is up you will receive discount to upgrade your phone with lowest price.
i get my note 2 for only $180 with renew 2 years contract at a retail store. you should try to check the price around those retail stores.
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That's not correct. Phones are not subsidized on Value Plans. On a Classic Plan, yes. Value Plans require you pay full price for the phone - half down, and $20 a month.
I got a quick question im on tmobile sold my tmobile s3 I haf first got on contract with tmobile and now I got a note 2 just a few weeks ago used but like new I had callef tmobile about my payments and they seen my sim was registered as a note 2 the rep on the phone said by the way u have a great phone the note 2 is awesome well the bottom line is the phone is absolutely clean esn and imei since im using I with tmobile 4g $70 wanted to know if tmobile would let me get the unlock code for my note or do I have to wait a few months ive been with them since august of 2012
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Look on wirefly. Com and amazon, they always have deals popping up for the GNote2. Use the islickdeals app to help ur search.
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Im on a classic plan and was 18 months into my contract and they ended up giving me the note 2 for 200 w/ 1 free month back in October. They call it an early upgrade program
Ops sorry guys that was my mistake I was confusing between value plan and classic plan and as i checked my status im on classic plan so thats why I got the phone for cheap price xP
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if you can wait a few months to see what the gs4 and gn3 are about may be a good idea?
Thanks everyone, I appreciate all the feed back -- it helped a lot!!! Seriously.
I went into the T-mobile store (again) and asked about the upcoming Valentines Day sale. The sales associate said that to get the rebates you don’t normally have to be out of contract – you just have to *extend* (renew) your contract.
I’m not sure if he is correct or not, but I HOPE so.
Last year, they were giving a couple hundred off phones (with rebates), so although it will be really painful to wait longer, I think I will hold off until I find out what kind of deals they are going to have on the Valentines Day sale.
Unless, that is, I can find a good deal on one sooner. I’ll keep my eyes peeled.
PS -- the "Captcha" on this site is hard!!!
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if you can wait a few months to see what the gs4 and gn3 are about may be a good idea?
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Hmmm... I was thinking about that...
The GS4 is expected in the US around the end of April/May, right?
And the GN3? I was thinking around Sept - Dec release, although I just saw these articles, stating possibly at the end of February (???). That seems insanely soon though, for a phone that just got released not too long ago. Or maybe not?
I'd show you the links I'm referring to, but I'm being blocked from doing so because I don't have 10 posts yet (lame).
The other thing is, the Note 3 will supposedly have a 6.3 inch screen?! Doesn't that seem a tad on the too-large side?
How credible do you think a February-ish release date is for the Note 3, and how soon before it goes on sale in the US, you think?
natesi said:
Thanks everyone, I appreciate all the feed back -- it helped a lot!!! Seriously.
I went into the T-mobile store (again) and asked about the upcoming Valentines Day sale. The sales associate said that to get the rebates you don’t normally have to be out of contract – you just have to *extend* (renew) your contract.
I’m not sure if he is correct or not, but I HOPE so.
Last year, they were giving a couple hundred off phones (with rebates), so although it will be really painful to wait longer, I think I will hold off until I find out what kind of deals they are going to have on the Valentines Day sale.
Unless, that is, I can find a good deal on one sooner. I’ll keep my eyes peeled.
PS -- the "Captcha" on this site is hard!!!
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He was correct. Any of the T-Mobile sales are for existing and new customers. If you're on value, you can just buy it on EIP (payments) and still qualify for the rebate regardless of contract tenure. I'd put my money on $0 down after rebate being the sale for V-Day.
hmmm.... I just saw a Samsung Galaxy "next big thing" Super Bowl ad/video on youtube.
What could they possibly be announcing besides the Note 3, if that is suppose to ship before the S4?
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hmmm.... I just saw a Samsung Galaxy "next big thing" Super Bowl ad/video on youtube.
What could they possibly be announcing besides the Note 3, if that is suppose to ship before the S4?
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Why would the GN3 ship before the GN4? the GN2 is not even 6 months out yet. The GN3 is approaching a year. My guess is this rumor is actually caused by the note 8.0 which will likely be made official at MWC.
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He was correct. Any of the T-Mobile sales are for existing and new customers. If you're on value, you can just buy it on EIP (payments) and still qualify for the rebate regardless of contract tenure. I'd put my money on $0 down after rebate being the sale for V-Day.
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Boy do I hope that's true. I passed on the Christmas Sale because it was only $100 down and not $0 down. I'm holding out hope that the V-Day sale goes down to $0. If not though, they will surely at least match the Christmas sale with $100 down. I think I'll pull the trigger at that point. There will likely be another sale for the Value Plan only transition, but I don't know if I can wait that long.
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Poke_N_PDA said:
Why would the GN3 ship before the GN4? the GN2 is not even 6 months out yet. The GN3 is approaching a year. My guess is this rumor is actually caused by the note 8.0 which will likely be made official at MWC.
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Yeah, I know it is weird that the Note 3 would come out so soon -- I'm just going by what I read in a few articles yesterday.
LIke I said, I cannot post links yet -- not my fault -- I don't have a high enough post count.
Here's how you can find some articles that talks about the possible unvailing later this month:
Google "Note 3 release date"
Click on the first news article from PC Tablet "Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Release Date Could be at Mobile World Congress 2013!"
Then maybe the fourth result down by Trusted Reviews, "Samsung Galaxy Note 3 rumours point to 6.3-inch octa-core handset"
And others...
Google customizes search results so your ordering may be different than mine, but you should be able to find those articles with the info I have specified.
It's all speculation of course.
But what would Samsung Mobile be running an expensive Super Bowl ad for, with major celebrities??? What could be that big -- seriously? The SIII is too old to be pushing so hard. What else could it be?
I guess we'll find out on Sunday.
But man, it is taking every ounce of strength I have to not go buy a Note 2 right now.