I'm just curious, do you guys usually flash the stock or the de-odex'd. And why do you flash the version you do? I know most people flash de-odex'd because they can be themed. But at the rate we are getting the leaks, wouldn't it be better to go with stock since apparently it's faster?
I always flash Stock Odex but the rom im trying out at the moment is not.
viper786 said:
I'm just curious, do you guys usually flash the stock or the de-odex'd. And why do you flash the version you do? I know most people flash de-odex'd because they can be themed. But at the rate we are getting the leaks, wouldn't it be better to go with stock since apparently it's faster?
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Just saying, the idea that odexed can't be themed is essentially a myth. Most themeing you see is done to apks resources (layouts and images) which can be modified just the same whether or not your Rom is odexed or deodexed.
Edits to jar files in specific themeing cases might require a baksmali to odex and then a dexopt -wrapper but ultimately this just translates to a bit more time but is completely plausible.
So first and foremost , odexed roms can be themed. It just appear themers prefer themeing deodexed so the idea that ONLY deodexed can be themed has become a "general rule". Deodexed roms simply make it easier to edit smali cutting down the process time.
Anyway, if you dont plan on themeing then go odex. If you do, it seems like that is the flavor of themers so unless you want to dive in yourself then you'll have to honor the trend. The speed difference you'll notice won't be *huge* between the two. The most significant difference is first boot on odex will be faster.
I've run my share of odex and deodex roms and I can't say there is a noticeable or significant hit on performance during day to day use on a device such as this.
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From what i understand, deodexing is for theme-ing but odexed apps run faster.
Why doesn't someone release odexed versions of their roms for speed freaks?
I have never really seen a difference when running odexed, but it would be nice to have the option.
Aside from the very first boot up, speed will be exactly the same.
As far as I know the only thing faster in odexed roms are the bootup times.
Adrynalyn does a good job explaining this in one of his threads. I'll try to hunt it down and post it.
Are deodexed ROMs able to work with Link2SD ? Or Link2SD supports only odexed ROMs ?
Are deodexed ROMs faster than odexed ?
1) You can use LINK2SD with deodexed roms.I'm using it for 2 months.
2) I saw some people saying odexed roms are faster and smoother than deodexed.
I've ran a bunch of different ROM's on my Wildfire S. Some were CM7, some were CM9, some were odexed, some were de-odexed.
Odexed ROM's have the odex files in the APK's, making it technically faster, but harder to mod.
De-odexed ROM's have had the odex files removed from the APK's and stored seperately, making it technically slower but easier to make modifications, as you do not have to decompile APK's to change them.
Link2SD had no problems with any of the ROM's in my experience, and despite the technical jiggery-pokery, its been my experience that after initial boot after flashing, de-odexed ROM's are actually quicker. So much for theory, huh?
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Odexed ROM's have the odex files in the APK's, making it technically faster, but harder to mod.
De-odexed ROM's have had the odex files removed from the APK's and stored seperately, making it technically slower but easier to make modifications, as you do not have to decompile APK's to change them.
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I am not sure but I think you made a mistake. Deodexed ROM have the odex files in APK and Odexed ROM have odex files seperately, according to me.
miso00 said:
I am not sure but I think you made a mistake. Deodexed ROM have the odex files in APK and Odexed ROM have odex files seperately, according to me.
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It's one or the other. I don't like to get bogged down with all the low-level technical ****, someone else can do that, it doesn't interest me much.
miso00 said:
Are deodexed ROMs able to work with Link2SD ? Or Link2SD supports only odexed ROMs ?
Are deodexed ROMs faster than odexed ?
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Link2SD will definitely support both odex and de-odex ROMs.
You won't notice any speed difference between the two, but you will notice a HUGE space savings (internal memory) with odex ROMs. The only downfall, as someone mentioned, is that odex'ed ROMs are harder to theme (but not impossible).
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miso00 said:
I am not sure but I think you made a mistake. Deodexed ROM have the odex files in APK and Odexed ROM have odex files seperately, according to me.
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Thank you all for your answers. Especially to Tigger.
Reodexing is really easy and gives you space, especially if you don't plan on theming it. (CM themes chooser still works).
See this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1500475
According to what i have learnt about .odex files is that these are the files containing the information of the .apk file which separately is used in the loading of the app which makes the odex rom faster than the de-odexed which contains the odex part in the .apk file which takes time to load along with the app..
EQDKPv5.0_multi_odexed_mhr_2
Can someone just confirm for me pls what cm number if it is or if its right for my wildfire s A510e.
I have tried so many diff roms i've got to the point now that i cant remember whats what and i wish i didn't start messing with it
The zip is branded with this name EQDKPv5.0_multi_odexed_mhr_2 but when i enter to search details on it i dont get any.
Thanks in advance
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Hey!
I have tried to modify JB 4.2.1 systemUI.apk to put the clock to center on the status bar but decompiling and recompiling will fail.
I have tried apktool if C:\user\blablabla\framework-res.apk but it won't do it, it gives errors and on Linux Ubuntu I have same issue..
I ahve tried to modify ICS's systemUI.apk by replacing the status_bar.xml file but it will nor recompile the .apk so I can't edit status_bar.xml..
What to do?
On Windows 7 I use apkmanager v5.0.2 and on Linux Ubuntu Lucid Lynx I use FJ apktools v2.4
whats the point on staying on stock if you're going to modify it anyway? modifying it is going to alter your ability to get OTAs. just flash a custom ROM that supports this feature that u can change in the settings.
zephiK said:
whats the point on staying on stock if you're going to modify it anyway? modifying it is going to alter your ability to get OTAs. just flash a custom ROM that supports this feature that u can change in the settings.
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I don't like others ROMs that is themed like an old Android OS..
I want everything to be stock and what I can modify when I want..
That's the point.
Everyone does not like custom ROMs like crap aokp or CM10.#
manumanfred said:
I don't like others ROMs that is themed like an old Android OS..
I want everything to be stock and what I can modify when I want..
That's the point.
Everyone does not like custom ROMs like crap aokp or CM10.#
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I don't even know what you mean by "themed like an old Android OS" because that makes absolutely no sense because all of these roms look exactly the same because they are compiled from aosp which is using the holo theme as stock.
There are very minimal roms out there that are left completely stock and dedodexed.
Just because you somehow don't like cm or aokp doesn't mean you have the right to bash them by calling them crap either.
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These 1337 stock fanbois make chuckle sometimes.
good day.
zephiK said:
I don't even know what you mean by "themed like an old Android OS" because that makes absolutely no sense because all of these roms look exactly the same because they are compiled from aosp which is using the holo theme as stock.
There are very minimal roms out there that are left completely stock and dedodexed.
Just because you somehow don't like cm or aokp doesn't mean you have the right to bash them by calling them crap either.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
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you asked and I answered, if you don't like the way how I answered then it's your own problem..
I asked help to modify the clock on status bar and not to ask others to ask me why I don't use custom ROMs.
manumanfred said:
you asked and I answered, if you don't like the way how I answered then it's your own problem..
I asked help to modify the clock on status bar and not to ask others to ask me why I don't use custom ROMs.
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It's obvious that you can't do what you want to do. That's why there are developers, they do it for YOU and push it out to the masses so you don't have to manually modify line of code by yourself. I'm not a developer so I can't help you by that, but what I can do is suggest a workaround. And that would be to flash a ROM with this feature so you can just go into the settings and just change it from the clock displaying on the Right to the center.
No reason to get an attitude by saying CM/AOKP is "crap." Who are you to exactly call another group/individual's ROM to be crap when you can't even produce your own? Especially when these people are doing it for FREE and as an hobby.
When you get the next OTA for Android you won't be able to update anyways because you would of modified a core element of the stock ROM that would cause a failure on a OTA update.
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It's obvious that you can't do what you want to do. That's why there are developers, they do it for YOU and push it out to the masses so you don't have to manually modify line of code by yourself. I'm not a developer so I can't help you by that, but what I can do is suggest a workaround. And that would be to flash a ROM with this feature so you can just go into the settings and just change it from the clock displaying on the Right to the center.
No reason to get an attitude by saying CM/AOKP is "crap." Who are you to exactly call another group/individual's ROM to be crap when you can't even produce your own? Especially when these people are doing it for FREE and as an hobby.
When you get the next OTA for Android you won't be able to update anyways because you would of modified a core element of the stock ROM that would cause a failure on a OTA update.
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I know!
But I like Stock ROM and I update my Nexus different way than as normally..
I wan't to modify ROM myself because then I can get that to the ROM what I need and not more extra that is in custom ROMs like tweaks for speed or custom kernel, etc.
I have always liked stock ROMs and I don't want to change to AOSP ROM, CM ROMs are usually buggy and updates to nightlies comes everyday with fixes and that's enough when I use CM9 and CM10 on my ARMv6 devices.
There's nothing wrong with someone wanting to overcome an obstacle and learn. That's how all those "developers" you speak of came to be. There's nothing wrong with him asking for help. He doesn't have to use a custom ROM if he prefers not to just because it's the answer for you, or because you have no legitimate answer for his question because you don't know. If you don't have the info he needs, then stfu and just move on.
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Well said Zeinzu,BTW me also having the same problem as the OP..Trying to decompile the framework/mms/contacts/systemUI that comes with 4.2 rom are now useless.Any idea that anyone can give?Going to edit the status bar to semi transparent but decompile failed,Plus i can and able to extract it but all i need it to edit those xml files that contains some coding as i've beed doing to my previous rom (4.1.2)
I've had CM10 on my GS3 for while now, ever since December I believe. Even before then, I didn't do much in the way of ROM stuff or even coming here to XDA. I've recently flashed back to Blazer ROM in order to PRL/Profile update and I'm seeing all of this stuff about update MB1.
Could anyone recommend me a ROM similar to Blazer that is based on MB1?
Just go through the development section and find one that catches your eye
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Thanks for the reply. I did look through the list of ROMs.
I was digging more for personal opinions, though.
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Thanks for the reply. I did look through the list of ROMs.
I was digging more for personal opinions, though.
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I haven't flashed a TW-based Rom in quite a while. If you really like Blazer Rom and don't really care for the update from LJ7 to MB1, you can just edit the build.prop to disable the OTA notifications. It's easy to do, and CNexus has a good tutorial on his OTA Guide Sticky Thread.
Other than that, after looking through the Developer's Thread, most of the Roms there offer similar experiences to Blazer Rom. A lot of the custom Mods incorporated in Blazer are pretty standard on TW-based Roms nowadays. Blazer might have had a really stable, battery-saving reputation, but with most MB1 Roms you can get really good battery life (even without flashing a custom kernel, although they can help a great deal with battery life).
After all that, I haven't done what you asked, which is point you in the direction of one (or two) Roms you'd like. I honestly am not able to. If you really want some TW MB1 Rom suggestions, I'd start with the following (in no particular order):
The People's Rom
Clean Bean
Goodness Reborn
MOAR Rom
Team Venom Odex Blue Holy Grail
And there are a lot of other great Roms out there. You can see my sig for my curent setup. It's AOSP-based and has been running really solid recently.
topherk said:
I haven't flashed a TW-based Rom in quite a while. If you really like Blazer Rom and don't really care for the update from LJ7 to MB1, you can just edit the build.prop to disable the OTA notifications. It's easy to do, and CNexus has a good tutorial on his OTA Guide Sticky Thread.
Other than that, after looking through the Developer's Thread, most of the Roms there offer similar experiences to Blazer Rom. A lot of the custom Mods incorporated in Blazer are pretty standard on TW-based Roms nowadays. Blazer might have had a really stable, battery-saving reputation, but with most MB1 Roms you can get really good battery life (even without flashing a custom kernel, although they can help a great deal with battery life).
After all that, I haven't done what you asked, which is point you in the direction of one (or two) Roms you'd like. I honestly am not able to. If you really want some TW MB1 Rom suggestions, I'd start with the following (in no particular order):
The People's Rom
Clean Bean
Goodness Reborn
MOAR Rom
Team Venom Odex Blue Holy Grail
And there are a lot of other great Roms out there. You can see my sig for my curent setup. It's AOSP-based and has been running really solid recently.
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I downloaded stock rooted and CleanBean, so I'll probably check out CleanBean. The only reason I want to update to MB1 is the multi-window. Outside of that, something that has good battery life and allows me to switch the CPU governor to conservative.
Sunsparc said:
I downloaded stock rooted and CleanBean, so I'll probably check out CleanBean. The only reason I want to update to MB1 is the multi-window. Outside of that, something that has good battery life and allows me to switch the CPU governor to conservative.
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Just so you're aware, the MA6 and MB1 updates did not include multi-window. All of the Roms with multi-window are based on the international update, which included the Premium Suite.
It does not change your assessment, as LJ7 (and prior) Roms won't have multi-window, but it's just so you're aware that stock MB1 Roms won't have any of the premium suite additions.
If you flash an MB1 rom that doesn't have multiwindow, there's a flashable that adds that feature to any stock-based MB1 rom
I have poked around a little, but haven't really seen what I am after. I am trying to find a ROM that is basically stock, but has the bloatware pulled out, cleaned up, performance tweaked, possibly deodexed, etc. Just a "clean base" to get me going. Is there anything like that floating around that I simply missed?
EDIT: I meant to say "stock" as in stock Samsung, not Google/AOSP/etc.
EDIT #2: I guess really I don't mind the Google/AOSP ROMs (in fact I like a lot of it better), I just want the stock camera app and wifi calling. I had the CyanogenMod nightlys installed for a couple days, I really liked that, but I also really missed the stock camera application and wifi calling.
Wifi calling is only going to be on roms cooked for t-mobile only, the other roms will not have that option.
What you are looking for is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261013 This is what I am on and it works great. This is the stock rom de-odexed with a script you run to remove the bloat. Follow instructions closely because you do not perform a full wipe. You just flash the de-odexed rom over your existing stock rom.
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Features are listed in the OP of each ROM thread
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