I am thinking of getting an epic and had some questions.
I see there is an alpha for CM7 for the epic. I also read somewhere that it used a 2.2 kernel and was hacked together in a way that isn't approved by the cm team. Is that the case?
Can the epic be used on cricket? If so can it be done with custom ROMs?
Thanks in advance for the answers.
CM7 both yes and no. Noobnl and some others broke away and were building, but there was some politics involved. Now the CM7 team is different and is congruent with CM now.
There is a thread in the Development forum that will show you how to do the cricket thing.
Can the epic work on Virgin Mobile?
Anyone know about virgin mobile?
to my understanding they (Deamon87 and the Epic CM7 squad) have been trying to get a build that meets the official CM7 standards in order to get the official support....the question I'm bringing to the table is why the Epic 4G (which is supposed to be a flagship sprint phone) didn't have official support from release like some other phones coming out have....with functional nightlies out within a week of release....if anybody has any information i'd really love to know!?!?
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Dameon is a very busy person. There are a lot of things still being done before he an work on cm7. Our epic's are such an underappreciated phone. Its just how things are... nothing more we can do.... except be thankful to all our devs we have =)
Who knows where our epis would be without dameon aand noobnl
Btw you spelled his name wrong =P
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Shoulon said:
Dameon is a very busy person. There are a lot of things still being done before he an work on cm7. Our epic's are such an underappreciated phone. Its just how things are... nothing more we can do.... except be thankful to all our devs we have =)
Who knows where our epis would be without dameon aand noobnl
Btw you spelled his name wrong =P
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Ohh ok I didn't know if it was a main project or anything...and yes the Epic 4G would be a very VERY boring device compared to all the other developers other phones have without them...but my question still remains why doesn't the Epic 4G get ROM releases from the official CM7 developer team like 20+ other devices get...even the other Galaxy S phones have official CM7 support...what makes us Epic owners different?
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None of those 20+ devs have epics? =\
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tony45x220 said:
Ohh ok I didn't know if it was a main project or anything...and yes the Epic 4G would be a very VERY boring device compared to all the other developers other phones have without them...but my question still remains why doesn't the Epic 4G get ROM releases from the official CM7 developer team like 20+ other devices get...even the other Galaxy S phones have official CM7 support...what makes us Epic owners different?
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According to the Cyanogenmod "Devices" page, Samsung Galaxy S (they just have one link for all the Galaxy S phones) is not supported. So...I don't think they do have official support:
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The Samsung Galaxy S is a series of devices that feature a 1GHz Hummingbird processor. It has/will be released in the USA from several carriers & under their own name, including the Samsung Vibrant for T-Mobile, the Samsung Captivate for AT&T, the Samsung Fascinate for Verizon & the Samsung Epic 4G for Sprint.
Not officially supported by CyanogenMod"
Straight from their web site.
In my understanding, it was because some of the base driver files required software from Samsung, that Samsung will not release, causing the need for the drivers to be totally rewritten and/or made from scratch
As such, I got the impression that once all the drivers have been written/created, official support would be forth coming, but until then, it was not available.
that is just my educated guess from all I have read on the subject though...
well now that the nexus s with 4g wimax is out perhaps the epic 4g will get some sort of rom based off that... I say give it a few days... As we know the nexus s has 2.3.4 now...
Reginalb124 said:
According to the Cyanogenmod "Devices" page, Samsung Galaxy S (they just have one link for all the Galaxy S phones) is not supported. So...I don't think they do have official support:
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The Samsung Galaxy S is a series of devices that feature a 1GHz Hummingbird processor. It has/will be released in the USA from several carriers & under their own name, including the Samsung Vibrant for T-Mobile, the Samsung Captivate for AT&T, the Samsung Fascinate for Verizon & the Samsung Epic 4G for Sprint.
Not officially supported by CyanogenMod"
Straight from their web site.
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I just checked the captivate and vibrant forums under development and they both have fully functional versions of CM7 with various custom kernals...the only other Galaxy S device in the same developmental boat as us is the Fascinate....the Vibrant & Captivate forums also have instructional links to the CM7 website about flashing...so again I propose the question with a slight adjustment...why wouldn't the Epic 4G and Fascinate have official support...and does anybody know how we would request development from the official CM7 team
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It is very difficult and a lot of hardwork.
tony45x220 said:
I just checked the captivate and vibrant forums under development and they both have fully functional versions of CM7 with various custom kernals...the only other Galaxy S device in the same developmental boat as us is the Fascinate....the Vibrant & Captivate forums also have instructional links to the CM7 website about flashing...so again I propose the question with a slight adjustment...why wouldn't the Epic 4G and Fascinate have official support...and does anybody know how we would request development from the official CM7 team
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Somebody has to make the time to do the hardwork and have the know how to figure out how to convert the Samsung Epic Drivers. HTC usually reuses the same parts each year so development is simple. But on the other hand it makes their hardware suck and outdated. Samsung is innovative and they don't want their secrets out their for anybody to rip off and due to the fact they are innovative you have create new drive every time they come out with a new phone.
CM7
I am grateful for all that the CM7 have done. I a sea of glitchy ROMS, no of them fit for a daily, out of the gate, the Alpha ROM for the Epic has been, well, epic. A great ROM with wonderful potential.
tedcousens said:
I am grateful for all that the CM7 have done. I a sea of glitchy ROMS, no of them fit for a daily, out of the gate, the Alpha ROM for the Epic has been, well, epic. A great ROM with wonderful potential.
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Hey hey now! If you appreciate the CM7 rom brought together for the Epic a year after it's release and right before its demise, that's great. But don't go badmouthing the fully-featured, very stable assortment of roms that have kept the Epic 4G alive for over a year now such as Viper, Bonsai, Midnight, and SyndicateFrozen to name a few! There are plenty of great roms that thousands of users use daily and have been for many months, you must be doing something wrong.
Also, check your grammar a bit:
"I[n] a sea of glitchy ROMS, no[ne] of them fit for a daily, out of the gate..."
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Hey hey now! If you appreciate the CM7 rom brought together for the Epic a year after it's release and right before its demise, that's great. But don't go badmouthing the fully-featured, very stable assortment of roms that have kept the Epic 4G alive for over a year now such as Viper, Bonsai, Midnight, and SyndicateFrozen to name a few! There are plenty of great roms that thousands of users use daily and have been for many months, you must be doing something wrong.
Also, check your grammar a bit:
"I[n] a sea of glitchy ROMS, no[ne] of them fit for a daily, out of the gate..."
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Sorry Random, you are right. I have only begun to root for a few months now and it is likely my ignorance that keeps me from having a smooth user experience. Admittedly I have only been flashing GB ROMs and have not tried the Froyo ROMs. I have only tried a few because the work of restoring apps and data gets tiring after a full week of work and a life to live. I apologize to all the devs that have worked so hard to make the 4G a better device and am definitely grateful for all those that have done so much and put in so much of their valuable time. Perhaps I will give one of the Froyo ROMs a spin.
As to the grammar, well, I have no excuse and feel deep shame. Please forgive me.
see, there's your problem. while the GB roms are fun, they aren't "daily driver" stable generally speaking. RandomKing's Phoenix 2.2, ACS's SFR 1.2, ERA's Simply AOSP 4.01, and many others are ones i've run for daily usage and they all have their strong points (mostly come down to preference) and are all very stable and fast.
yes, you are right, I got stuck on the GB train and couldn't get off.
So .... the developement should be blasting on the Epic touch right ?...
I mean as far as porting stuff over from what they already have on other GS2 devices ? will it be hard or will it be easy ?
and also the whole cyanogenmod thing ... how people are saying that the developer got the device so we should be supported and get it sooner than we did on the OG epic
Sorry for this thread it's just that ... well i was fooled when the Nexus S 4G was announced that we would be getting easy ports and such ... and i don't want to be let down like that again ... so i'd really appreciate it if someone with the knowledge would answer me
I have tried to do some reading up on this subject. I know the Epic Touch comes with GB 2.3.4 and from what I have read, it should be easier to port the ROMs to that phone than it is to do on this phone. The hardware keyboard and some other differences make the Epic a different animal altogether
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This is why i basically made this thread ....
Thats what people said when the nexus s was coming out ...
"It's basically the same phone we'll get easy ports"
and that ended up being mostly false ... so i wanted to find out if the sayings about the upcoming GS2 are actually true or is it just false information that spread like wildfire on the forums...
I am not sure I am following this 100% but this is my basic interpretation. The Epic Touch will not help with bringing us ports. But the Epic Touch will be easier to port to because it doesn't have the extra hardware. How true this is I am not sure. I have not done any research on this.
crawrj said:
I am not sure I am following this 100% but this is my basic interpretation. The Epic Touch will not help with bringing us ports. But the Epic Touch will be easier to port to because it doesn't have the extra hardware. How true this is I am not sure. I have not done any research on this.
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All i want to know is if this is true ...
the Epic Touch will be easier to port to because it doesn't have the extra hardware.
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iSaint said:
All i want to know is if this is true ...
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Same here. It seems phone performs so well that I may be happy just getting it rooted for a little while though.
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o Yea definitely ... but i still wants to have a phone with decent development behind it
iSaint said:
o Yea definitely ... but i still wants to have a phone with decent development behind it
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I would be surprised if the Epic Touch was a niche phone like the Epic is. I know I initially chose the Epic because of the hardware keyboard. Most of the masses went to the Evo. There doesn't seem to be the buzz over the Evo 3d like there was when there were 20 Evo commercials a day and ONE Epic commercial a month. I would like a dev to give some feedback about if it will be possible to port a rom like Lite'ning or if the phone differences make it harder than it just a GSM to CDMA port
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Why have we been porting from the nexus s 4g? Wouldnt it be easier to port from the fascinate as it is basically the same phone minus 4g and keyboard?
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Why have we been porting from the nexus s 4g? Wouldnt it be easier to port from the fascinate as it is basically the same phone minus 4g and keyboard?
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We're not porting from the Nexus S 4G. Decad3nce is a member of the CyanogenMod Team as Maintainer of the repo as far as I'm aware. We're going off of the actual repo for CM which due to Samsung's nature and hardware we are taking it slow but making great strides in doing so. The fascinate has never been and will never be the same phone as ours. There is nothing similar except the fact that we're both Galaxy S devices. There's a reason why it and the captivate both have it and we do not, because we're beyond the same mindset to get it working.
I came from the Motorola Triumph to the HTC EVO because of the lack of good working roms it has. That's one of the main reasons I bought this phone (HTC EVO 4G) because of all the developments going on for a 2 year old phone. Like for instance the HTC EVO 4g LTE came out are a lot of you users and devs going to that phone? So my question would be is the HTC EVO 4g one of those phones even though its 2 years old is development still going on? How come development is still going on? I'm not saying that i want the devs to stop developing for it and move on the the HTC EVO 4g LTE. I know the EVO 4g came out in like 2010 and yet is 2012 and development is still going on for it. How come is that not saying that I want the devs to stop and move on to the HTC EVO 4g LTE. Also I know how to port roms so will the roms on HTC Desire HD and HTC EVO 3D work on this phone are there any special mods needed to be done? Oh and one more question do all of HTC EVO 4g ICS have camera(s) working or is it just the back?
I don't know if you've a question or statement in that jumble, but yes, development is still going on. Many of the current devs are working on ICS, there is a sense 4 alpha floating in the development section. in addition, there are also new gingerbread builds being re-worked.
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I don't know if you've a question or statement in that jumble, but yes, development is still going on. Many of the current devs are working on ICS, there is a sense 4 alpha floating in the development section. in addition, there are also new gingerbread builds being re-worked.
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Well I guess its kind of both a question within the statment I'll clarify it.
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Well I guess its kind of both a question within the statment I'll clarify it.
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Well that helps. You can attempt to port the desire to the evo, but you'll need some additional things to make it work, I believe. Also, all the ICS roms have the rear camera working; no ICS Evo rom has the front facing camera [ffc] working.
Okay I cleared it up a bit. Should be easier to understand now.