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Just got my desire friday. It's awesome! But the lags are killing me! I'd like JIT, SetCPU, power managment, cool themes and better music player, that's all! It should be easy, just to hack android to get access to ROOT...
But seriously, I don't want to lose any settings and apps I've set-up. Also the process is complicated, and there is nothing like "one click ROOT access". Although I already have Android SDK(for testing purposes), I am maybe just a bit lazy
So what do you think, to root or not to root.
had to bump so fast!? is here anyone reading this?!
Desire forums seem kinda dead today. Everyone's probably got the World Cup fever lol
I personally would say no, but that's my opinion - I wouldn't wanna risk bricking my new device, I should also say though that I have no previous Android experience, so I don't know about you. So I'm waiting, hopefully an official release isn't too far off, and if my carrier doesn't release it quick, I will be goldcarding
I would go ahead and do it, even though the above poster stated that there is a strong possibility of bricking your device, this is true, but there have been recent developments made for this kind of issue - there are now complete guides in the ROM dev section detailing how to unbrick your device, or even run recovery from your phone without connecting to the PC lessening your chances of bricking it, and there is a Recovery mod also, so I would say it's safe to go ahead and root/flash.
Ok il'll try it, but i have some questions:
Will I lose any data or applications? I can't backup, I have 1gb left on my hdd.
Will I have to do factory or soft reset after flashing to custom rom?
Does flashing relace or "update" the system?
Is desire really having the CPU clocked at 1ghz or is it 720mhz like in HD2? Will overclocking it to 1ghz make the battery last less? How much then? Can you overclocking the graphics chip?
Thank you in advance.
Dany0 said:
Ok il'll try it, but i have some questions:
Will I lose any data or applications? I can't backup, I have 1gb left on my hdd.
Will I have to do factory or soft reset after flashing to custom rom?
Does flashing relace or "update" the system?
Is desire really having the CPU clocked at 1ghz or is it 720mhz like in HD2? Will overclocking it to 1ghz make the battery last less? How much then? Can you overclocking the graphics chip?
Thank you in advance.
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Yes, if you attempt to a flash a custom rom that includes Apps2SD/A2SD, then you should backup the data on your SD card. The reason for this is because, with many (if not all) custom roms, excluding the Froyo roms, come with Apps2SD baked/cookef into the rom, requiring you to partition the SD card (which will also format your SD card, wiping everything) after flashing a custom rom. new rom then this will remove all data and apps, but nothing will be deleted on the sd card. I suggest you try backing up your sd card data to some storage media before attempting root and flashing to another rom.
You will notice that before flashing the rom of your choice, it is advised to wipe storage, cache, etc before flashing in recovery mode. After flashing, you can always perform a hard reset if you like, especially if you encounter any niggling bugs.
Yes, flashing will replace your stock rom image with the custom rom image.
You can flash Richard Trip's modified kernal, which allows you to perform undervolting and overclocking of the processor to run at faster or slower speeds. Overclocking will result in better performance but drain the battery quicker, Underclocking will save battery life.
Please read the second link in my sig for an in-depth explanation for rooting, flashing, and Apps2SD.
Note: if your phone is network branded then you will also be required a Gold Card and have an additional Micro SD card.
Note: if your rom comes with Apps2SD preinstalled, then do not install Apps2SD, only partition your sd card after flashing thr rom while still in recovery mode.
The process is:
Backup
Create Gold Card (if necessary)
Root
Place rom in root of sd card
Boot into recovery
Wipe everything
Flash rom in recovery
Partition sd card in recovery
Reboot
Restore backup to sd card.
That's all just too complicated, why is there no wizard application for it? I may make one, but it's still too complicated.
Can't you just open up cmd and type login: root pass: root?
To be honest, it's not too complicated, daunting at first, but when you read the nimbu guide (see my sig for Windows only method) for example, it makes perfect sense and it easy to follow. Just try it step-by-step and you will do it no probs.
All you have to remember is...
Dont install Apps2SD if it is already included in the custom rom you want to flash.
Create a Gold Card only if your phone is software branded. If it is generic, then you will not require a Gold Card.
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Ok I get myself a class 6(maybe class 10) 8gb card and try it, then I'll pick up wxPython and try to make a wizard
Just to add, for the Gold Card itself, you dont need to buy a large capacity sd card, even a 2GB one will do fine.
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I will gold card my old Nokia 5310 2gb card(although it has some undeletable extras... hmm..) or the one shipped with the phone. I want a lot space for movies, music and apps. So 8GB will be fine.
And most importantly I don't want ANY lag. **** driving me NUTS!
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Just saw the tut again, hey this should be easy! K going on...
Dany0 said:
I will gold card my old Nokia 5310 2gb card(although it has some undeletable extras... hmm..) or the one shipped with the phone. I want a lot space for movies, music and apps. So 8GB will be fine.
And most importantly I don't want ANY lag. **** driving me NUTS!
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Just saw the tut again, hey this should be easy! K going on...
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Ok matey, that sounds absolutely fine. You could even go for a Class 2 SD Card. I currently have a Transcend 8GB Class 6 but to be honest, I have not really noticed any differences in speed with the applications.
Yes, it's not so bad when you read the guide first, it's looks a lot at first but it's just because all the steps are appropriately broken down, which makes things easier to understand. Give it a stab and if you get any problems, just post back here and I will help you out, if necessary.
Good luck
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It's awesome! But the lags are killing me!
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is it a branded phone?
I have no lag
in future froyo 2.2 will there be root option?
I doubt it, HTC and Google would not want to have you "hacking" their phones... not that we do that on XDA
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jimlad said:
is it a branded phone?
I have no lag
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unbranded
lagging everywhere, menus, camera, gallery, videos, games(especially), apps, market, browser, settings, sdcard explorer, music player, and when you swipe over the trackball in home screens fast... LAG
Okay I got stuck at error 170, where do I download the drivers? I don't even know which do I need, do I need the HTC Sync or what? Or should I uninstall some drivers?
thanks
Yes, you need HTC Sync installed (this is on your sd card or you can download the latest version via HTC website). Also, ensure that you have USB debugging enabled (Menu > Settings > Applications > Development).
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Hi All,
my 2p worth (for what it's worth)
I rooted my desire and installed apps2sd and all was going well, until I discovered dust (a lot)under my screen and it has to go back to voda.
As there still isnt an RUU for voda uk I have had to install a generic wwe rom. It took me 6 hrs, and the fantastic help I received at modaco, to unroot and reflash the rom.
To say it was brown trouser time is an understatement lol
The only reason I rooted was for apps2sd and seeing as FroYo is going to include that facility, I don't think I will root again in the future.
I'm not saying don't root, but just make sure you can unroot if you need to.
I hope this helps?
Daz.
I rooted the same day it came out but only because i wanted paid apps available. And now its there i definately do not wanted to unroot
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got 155 unkown error
What!?
EDIT:
not bricked.... phew
EDIT2:
Okay got to the wiping, tried to do the flash but it said I had no zip file on the sd card, so I thought that in the end I need a goldcard, btw can someone tell me what happens if you have branded phone but no goldcard? thanks, so back to what I was writing, so I downloadedthe hex editor, almost got to inserting the image, when i remembered that I already formatted the card already... boom! Of course it wasn't there! soo.. loading up hoping that FAT32 is still okay...
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phew... ROOTING!! yay ^^
I am a US Cellular user, and I'm coming from a Samsung Acclaim, which had a very simple procedure for modifying it.
I had a official Samsung update tool, and several .tar files, that I could flash to get:
-Root kernel
-A more robust recovery console
-DEDOX Templates
-Modified Kernels (Tethering, etc)
and most importantly
-A complete factory image leaked from USCC
I could basically flash the updated recovery console, and then apply tars and zips and go nuts. And all was good, because I could apply the factory image to be 100% legit again.
I am going to be moving to a HTC Desire tomorow, and after looking over this forum for about 3 hours, I'm scared to death! It looks like HTC is alot more careful/paranoid~ No flash tool, no tar files, no source code, signed packages, RUU/MMS/RADIO and half a dozen other different things that I haven't deciphered yet!
What I need to know are just a few simple questions:
1) Is there a way to root and start doing some mods AND GET BACK to factory? If I can't get back to factory, I'm not going to touch a damn thing. (I think I read there are no USCC RUU files yet, whatever a RUU is lol)
2) Does the Desire suffer from the same internal memory problems that my Acclaim did? My Acclaim had 192MB of internal memory on a factory reset, and after Angry Birds, Facebook, Ebay, and half a dozen other apps, it gets down there pretty fast. From what I've read, it looks like the Desire is worse at 110! Since I don't want to root, rom, up to froyo, and app2sd without a restore plan, am I stuck until USCC releases 2.2 themselves?
3) Can I temp root? On my Acclaim, using the recovery console, I applied a rooted kernel, deleted some crap apps from /system/app, and then reapplied the stock kernel. Is that possible? Or am I gonna run into the same problem as question #1 where going back is impossible at this point because of some RUU issue.
Hey there!
Welcome to the world of HTC Desire (lol).
Anyway, I am going to try the best to answer your questions...
1) same as (3)?
2) Depends on how you manage it, but most of the time, the answer is a definite yes (sadly). And yes, you are stuck unless you have app2sd. You can use this to enable app2sd, but once again, no dice unless you are on 2.2.
3) Check out ""VISIONary" from the market. It's mainly for Desire HD or Z, but you should probably start reading about it here... It basically is a way to gain superuser rights for your current boot. Once you reboot, its gone. There's probably another alternative (saw something in the thread)
I think I was trying to cram too much into each idea. Sorry, let me clarify!
To clarify, USCC has not released a 2.2 update, their Desires have 2.1.
1) I have no problem learned the process, rooting, and installing roms on the phone, to get all the fun stuff I want. But in the case of a warranty issue, where I have to send it back, is there a way to flash a stock rom and undo all changes to a USCC Desire? Can I go back to stock?
2 & 3) Since USCC packed this phone so full of crap, with only the 110MB free on a fresh reset, I can't install the apps I want. I will look into the temp root solution you posted Eden, because if I can eliminate some system apps, and move some apps into that /system/app spot and out of /data, I might get enough wiggle room to get by.
I'll go all out and get a 16GB data partition with the Gingerbread launcher etc etc, but only if I can undo it all. That's my real concern.
I have heard of the advantages of S-OFF and would like to do it. However i have also heard of the risks of bricking my phone permanently. Anyone has any ideas how big is the risk? As in percentage?
I have no idea how accurate this is, but I saw someone mention a figure of about 0.4% failure rate.
Just a reminder - no idea how accurate this is - don't come looking me up if yours does happen to go bad.
Anyway, is there a particular reason you want to S-OFF? Perhaps you don't actually need to which avoids the risk in the first place.
Anyone else than the AlphaRev team giving failure rates is just guessing. And i doubt that even AlphaRev knows. I believe failure rate of the process is next to nothing, but the incapability from the user is what causes bricks. If you know what you are getting in to and follow the procedure without doing stupid things there is no realistic risk.
However there is just the bad luck, which at least once happened, where someone's computer crashed during the procedure.
Still keep in mind: You are the only one responsible for your phone, no one else.
what he said ^
User errors like loose usb cable that gets knocked durring the process
or pc crash. Ive S-OFF'd 2 desires and done similar stuff to a HD2 and
never had any problems. Been worried sick each time but everything went
smooth.
Just make sure the usb cable fits tight if youre going to do it. Both mine and
my friends HTC cable slip out by just brushing past it. I use a samsung cable.
Besides what @TheGhost1233 and @esk02k said, you should pay attention to the file you are downloading and use an MD5 tool to check the sum of your downloaded file against the one specified in the thread / site (you don't want to be flashing a corrupted file). And only do a flash after you have fully charged your battery
Hi all
Aplha Rev S-off, Amon Ra recovery Htc Desire 2.2
I just installed miui rom update over miui.19 r1 and my phone stopped working and it is showing sim card error, I tried 3-4 different sims and non of them are working. another problem is it stopped recognising the sd card same i tried 2 others but no luck
please can you help me as i have back up the sd card so can not restore as well as its not recognising my card.
any tips or tricks please, as i can not go to htc customcare as i have already voided my warrenty.
i tried using different sd card when i tried to do nand backup on new card just to check if its appear on system then it showed to start backing up then
Error: Run @[email protected] via adb
and if i tried to upload backup file flash zip from sd card in recovery then it is saying E: can’t mount /sdcard
I have backups of past around 3 different backups , but they are on my cards and my phone is unable to detect sd card so can not go further.
Is there any other way to do restore on phone using backup files, if its not detecting sd card
2) I checked my sim problem as well, sometimes it shows me the arial symbol for network , but when i try to call it shows me the error ” Mobile network not available”
really annoyed as this is my primary phone.
if you/anyone else got an idea, most welcome
Is there any way I can install the latest update without sd card????
please help me and do reply, i know its not nice to see problems n no one is happy to sortout, but i will really appreciate it.
thanks
Raj
rajverma3135 said:
thanks
Raj
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No idea how you got the idea to post this here but whatever.
Sound like a USB brick. If you are still rooted try this and skip step 1 else this thread might have some useful info for you.
If you have more question do it in another thread since it's completely off topic here.
Lol I just wanna change stuff like splash screen and such.
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go for it, just make sure you have a good pooter, usb lead and charge your battery up full, im glad i took the plunge, my desire now runs a rom from a desire HD and i have 2gb internal memory lol
I rooted my Telstra HTC Desire 2.2 with Unrevoked last night, and after a little bit of perseverance I finally got it to work, and I flashed the InsertCoin rom onto it.
Now I'm reading the forums, and apparently I need this thing called a Goldcard, and I've been reading around and still haven't figured out what they do, can I please have some help here?
Apparently it's only required for an unroot, but I may want to unroot in the future if I need to send it back due to warranty, and I have no idea how to get one because I already flashed a new rom. I still have the Nandroid backup from my stock rom, but I obviously made the backup after I rooted it with Unrevoked.
So here's my question, can I still create a Goldcard with my Telstra Desire, even though it's already rooted? (I can still restore my backup from my stock rom via Nandroid).
Thanks
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I made a Goldcard using a 2gb microSD but when I booted my phone with it, it wouldn't load anything (just displayed wallpaper), which I think is due to the rom requiring an SD partition (which this SD didn't have, so some required data may have not been on it therefore the phone didn't function). I then mounted it from recovery, and used the Goldcard tool to make it, should this work?
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I rooted my Telstra HTC Desire 2.2 with Unrevoked last night, and after a little bit of perseverance I finally got it to work, and I flashed the InsertCoin rom onto it.
Now I'm reading the forums, and apparently I need this thing called a Goldcard, and I've been reading around and still haven't figured out what they do, can I please have some help here?
Apparently it's only required for an unroot, but I may want to unroot in the future if I need to send it back due to warranty, and I have no idea how to get one because I already flashed a new rom. I still have the Nandroid backup from my stock rom, but I obviously made the backup after I rooted it with Unrevoked.
So here's my question, can I still create a Goldcard with my Telstra Desire, even though it's already rooted? (I can still restore my backup from my stock rom via Nandroid).
Thanks
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I made a Goldcard using a 2gb microSD but when I booted my phone with it, it wouldn't load anything (just displayed wallpaper), which I think is due to the rom requiring an SD partition (which this SD didn't have, so some required data may have not been on it therefore the phone didn't function). I then mounted it from recovery, and used the Goldcard tool to make it, should this work?
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Hello.
Your gold card isn't related to the phone. So yes you can still make a gold card or use one of your friends phone (i don't know for sure if it has to be the same model, but probably) and make one. The gold card is unique per SD Card.
You can rest assured though, cause until you want to go back to stock with no ROOT or S-OFF, it will pass a long time, and maybe you'll change your mind. Personally I was like you, scared that maybe I must go back to warranty if I get something wrong. But the truth is starting to arise: I'll never need to go to warranty If I don't do something stupid to my phone or my phone doesn't have any motherboard faults. First is easy to accomplish with a lot of reading before doing something. Almost everything is replaceable (Flashing bad ROM, kernel, recovery, etc.), but flashing Radio's and HBOOT's ain't. If you did something/something happened (USB Cable Disconnect, Pull The battery out etc.) when trying to flash these, then it is permanently bricked(no comebacks). I don't want to scare you, but you should pay a lot of attention when flashing these. The second it depends on the phone itself.
Hope that helped.
Thanks for your help
Now I have another problem, and instead of making another thread, I might as well make use of this one.
For some reason, I can't download any "large" apps from the market (google maps, angry birds, etc), and I've searched there is a fix for this but it involves something to do with the market cache and moving it to the SD Ext Partition?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd like the possibility to download large apps from the market since I've rooted, and I want to use the full potential of my phone since I actually have some internal space now.
So how would I go about fixing this market cache problem? I've seen some fixes for CM7 but none for the InsertCoin rom I'm running, any ideas?
museiscool8 said:
Now I have another problem, and instead of making another thread, I might as well make use of this one.
For some reason, I can't download any "large" apps from the market (google maps, angry birds, etc), and I've searched there is a fix for this but it involves something to do with the market cache and moving it to the SD Ext Partition?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd like the possibility to download large apps from the market since I've rooted, and I want to use the full potential of my phone since I actually have some internal space now.
So how would I go about fixing this market cache problem? I've seen some fixes for CM7 but none for the InsertCoin rom I'm running, any ideas?
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Hi.
Yep, I've heard about this new problem, since google allowed downloads of larger files from Market. Since some custom HBOOTS or even Stock HBOOK have the cache partition smaller than the file you are trying to download it won't be possible to save it.
You should search for a script that moves Dalvik-cache to SD or SD EXT. If the developer of the ROM hasn't made this than you have to search for (don't know if there is such script) it or try to ask it directly in the ROM forum. You should be able to get more help there.
I have had the D5316 for about half a year now and there are several questions that I hope someone here can help me solve. Ever since I have updated to 5.0.2, the phone has been extremely laggy and really bothers me (takes over 10 seconds and sometimes minutes to switch between apps or just simply go back to the main screen or lock/unlock my phone). So far, nothing has been done to it, no rooting or anything. Here are my questions:
1. I have considered rooting and/or flashing roms; would it improve the performance of the phone?
2. Would it be beneficial to root my phone (there is no warranty on it)?
3. One of my problems was not enough on-board memory. Is there a way to tell the phone to recognize an external sd memory card to use as its main memory?