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Anyone have Handcent delete all your messages for no reason?

I had a ton of text message threads in Handcent.. Just rebooted my phone like I do all the time. And all of a sudden they were gone! I tried to do a data restore from Titanium but that never seems to work for texts
Not the end of the world.. Just curios as to why it happened..

I have read before that sometimes HC will FC if too many messages are present on a thread, I guess this could be qualified as another side effect for a database that has become way too large for HC to handle.

This just happened to me again. After a manual reboot.. ALL of my text messages are gone. They're gone from the stock messaging app too so I'm not sure where the problem lies. I did a Google search and see other people are having this problem as well with just the stock messaging app. Any ideas on a fix? I'm missing some important text messages.... ugh..

Just noticed my saved wireless networks are gone after the reboot as well....
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thenags said:
This just happened to me again. After a manual reboot.. ALL of my text messages are gone. They're gone from the stock messaging app too so I'm not sure where the problem lies. I did a Google search and see other people are having this problem as well with just the stock messaging app. Any ideas on a fix? I'm missing some important text messages.... ugh..
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I can't help you with the root cause of the problem - I've never had it happen to me but a couple of friends have (all msgs wiped).
If the messages are missing from Handcent, they will also be missing from the stock app - there's no difference because the messages are (or should be) in the same place and you're just choosing to view/send them with Handcent or the stock app (or another of your choosing).
I CAN, however, help you try to minimize the effects of this happening in the future, as well as keep multiple records of your SMS...
I use two apps, together. The first one, called SMS Backup & Restore, by developer Ritesh Sahu has been a god send for me. You can backup all your messages and restore them, fully - it even gets the conversation threads in the right order by date upon recovery. In addition to manual backups, you can schedule backups.
While backing up is fast, I have to warn you that deleting all current messages (if you have a lot) and restoring them can take time. Restoring them, however, shows you a status bar so you can track its progress while deleting them just says "deleting" and you never know how long it will be. (The same dev also has a sister program for phone call logs - it's lightning fast and just as reliable/effective).
The other app I use is called "SMS Backup" by dev Christoph Studer (if you have trouble finding either of these in the market, look them up by searching for the dev's names). What this app does is work quietly in the background to send / upload your SMS to your Gmail. You can set which label you want to apply to them in Gmail, and then in Gmail set a filter to have them skip right over your inbox. This app also lets you have them appear as read when they are uploaded. All in all, you never even realize it's working and your Gmail will never be the wiser, until you have to refer back to an old SMS - maybe a phone number or address or some other vital info sent to you over text... and you can just go and find it at that time safely recorded in your Gmail.
I hope that helps!
Best of luck. If you're having trouble beyond disappearing texts, you may have other more serious underlying issues...

The problem with the backup apps are obviously I need to run them. Who thinks to do a backup prior to doing nothing more than a reboot?! It's crazy that the phone just deletes them on it's own. Searching on Google shows that this problem is wayyyy too common.

thenags said:
The problem with the backup apps are obviously I need to run them. Who thinks to do a backup prior to doing nothing more than a reboot?! It's crazy that the phone just deletes them on it's own. Searching on Google shows that this problem is wayyyy too common.
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who will do backups on a regular basis? folks that have lost data in the past. the more significant the loss, the better their backup habits.
i do backups. it seems the previous poster does. heck, i bet you start doing backups too.
the more you work with technology the more likely you are to ensure that your important data is at least duplicated. things like pictures, audio, video, text should be considered. this goes for desktops, laptops, netbooks, phones, etc. if it stores data, runs an OS and a users interacts with it...it will fail eventually.
sms backup works quite nicely. i found it after i lost my text messgs once.

I run Titanium every single night by schedule and nandroid every other night. I also have automated backups on all my PC's. But I send and recieve at least 1000 texts a day.. So when my texts randomly delete themselves at 5pm.... A backup made at 2am does me no good for my text messages....

Then modify your backup routine. I your backups won't recover your data...you are using the wrong tool. Sms backup can backup every X hrs.
Trust me..there is always a way to protect data that you find important.
I agree, the app shouldn't erase your data.
you can complain and cry....or...complain and recover.
The choice is solely up to you.
Good luck.

I back up all of my texts to my gmail, makes for great searching!

DraginMagik said:
Then modify your backup routine. I your backups won't recover your data...you are using the wrong tool. Sms backup can backup every X hrs.
Trust me..there is always a way to protect data that you find important.
I agree, the app shouldn't erase your data.
you can complain and cry....or...complain and recover.
The choice is solely up to you.
Good luck.
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Where is the option to backup every X hours? I've been through the settingss several times and don't see it

I've been using Handcent for 1.5 years now with no issue but just saw this with a customer who has the Thunderbolt. All messages are gone and she was not on the latest version which is 3.9 now. I've got 3.82 on my Evo so I'm going to leave it there till I know what's going on with this.

[Q] Titanium Back up of Call log

I have a full version of Titanium Back up and was wondering if there was a way to back up the call log without backing up all system data, Ive already done it for sms/mms thank you.
Edit: Found a app on the market called Call Logs Backup & Restore and its free but would still like to know if there is a way with Titanium

goto menu, batch, backup system, deselect, now pick which apps u wanna backup

I know that but which file is for call log is what im wondering
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its something in parentheses, calls/something...try that should be a green color...its fairly obvious
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Cool will try it out thank you sir

Found this thread by searching, but it isn't fully answered. What item in the backup list contains the call log? pete_kolwalski83 suggested that it was obvious, something green, but I don't see it on my phone.
Here are all the items in green:
Accounts
Application Widgets
Bluetooth pairings
[CALENDAR] Calendar Storage 1.1
[USER DICT] com...serdictionary 2.2
[CONTACTS/CALL...tacts Storage 2.2 **** is this it? I can't get the full name, but it sisn't work
Country, Language, Time zone
[VOICEMAIL] Dialer 2.2
[SMS/MMS/APN] Dialer Storage 2.2
[PLAYLISTS] Media Storage 2.2
[SMS/MMS PREFS] Messaging
[WALLPAPER/SETTINGS] Settings 2.2
[SETTINGS/BLUET...tings Storage 2.2
[BOOKMARKS] Web 2.2
Wi-Fi Access Points
By the way, what is the difference between the items in parenthesis and the items that are just green?

MrGibbage said:
[CONTACTS/CALL...tacts Storage 2.2 **** is this it? I can't get the full name, but it sisn't work
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Pro Tip: Turn your phone sideways -- Ti Backup will go landscape and show you more of the title.
That said, that should be it. That's the "[Contacts/Calls] Contacts Storage"
By the way, what is the difference between the items in parenthesis and the items that are just green?
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The bracketed prefix is just a "nice name" for what the item is. It's only used on certain system items. For example, it lets you know that you want to backup the "Dialer Storage" to get your SMS/MMS messages, and that the "Messaging" app only backs up the prefs for that particular app, not the messages themselves.
Also, running the backup and then long-pressing on the item in question and tapping "Explore" on the menu that shows up can reveal some information to you.

Wow, I can rotate my phone!?!?! Hehe, thanks for the pro tip.
Although, that setting isn't the one that contains the phone log. I just installed a new ROM after backing up all apps and settings. I restored all of the green items, but I don't have a call log. I have my SMS, and my contacts are in my gmail, so they came over when I resynced, but alas, no call log. I sure do wonder where TB has buried that option.

Odd. I've never tried using Ti Backup to restore SMS/MMS/Call Logs -- I always used the free apps by Ritesh Sahu. They've worked for me.

Yeah, I've also always used other backup apps that can save the call log. Funny that TB doesn't seem to be able to do this though, since it can back up everything else.
Or perhaps I am just doing it wrong...

after restoring CONTACTS/CALL, reboot your phone and they will show up.
For sms, restore [SMS/MMS/APN], then reboot. (You may also need to restore [Voicemail] Dialer, but I am not sure though)
I would like to know how to restore my vpn connections.

[Q] Titanium Backup : can you backup your sms?

How would you recover your sms with Titanium Backup?
is that something possible or we have to use something else?
thanks

I was wondering that too. I have the paid version, love it, but I thought I backed up the messages as well. Apperently not though.
Did I miss the setting?
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There's a free program in the market that I used to back up and restore my SMS called SMS Backup & Restore (by Ritesh Sahu)

I've had no problems with SMS Backup+ from the market - it stores the texts and MMS to your Gmail and allows for backup and restore. Makes it real simple.
Titanium does backup the SMS data, but I don't remember where it does, and on my myTouch3G 1.2 it was kind of buggy restoring it (though it mostly works). I think it's the data from Dialer Storage 2.2 that houses the SMS/MMS?

Handcent now backups sms/mms
I used to use SMS backup from above post, but it wasnt able to do mms' (at that time) so I tried Mybackuppro (in the market) and it works perfect. plus it does other backups too. I ended up buying it.
I used to have problems with Titanium with sms/mms, but I havent tried any recent versions.

I use MyPhoneExplorer. It syncs everything on your phone to your PC.

this could be outdated info now, but when i used titanium backup to backup sms/mms, it would make a backup of the phone dialer and the associated files from /system. This is not the best way to backup the sms's since a new rom may have made modifications to this.
i recommend sms backup and restore, which is what i use myself. titanium backup is great for apps and app data though!

Sorry for bumping and old thread but this brings up a question. Would any of these be able to create a backup of your SMS/MMS and convert them over to a text file of some sort so you can print up records of them? I remember when I had a Blackberry I used to be able to do this with software I purchased for it. This would be a great feature I would be interested in using. I tried searching for something that discussed this but came up with nothing. Sorry if its been covered before. Thanks in advance.

To back up texts just make a back up of Dialer Storage [SMS/MMS] and restore.
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I think marvzuno wants something that can backup AND convert the message to a text file to be read on a computer or something, not only a backup...
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flak0 said:
To back up texts just make a back up of Dialer Storage [SMS/MMS] and restore.
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I'm looking for something more like the poster below was talking about. Thanks for the info though. This will be useful just for the backup process.
daaango said:
I think marvzuno wants something that can backup AND convert the message to a text file to be read on a computer or something, not only a backup...
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Yes, Something that would convert the backup file into something I would be able to view on a computer. ANy suggestions or ideas on this?

I'd like to put in my vote for SMSBackup+. The restore feature doesn't always work perfectly, but the backup has never failed me. stores it as plain text in your gmail, which is then searcheable.

Love SMS Backup+, saves them to Gmail and can also pull them back to the device as other people have said, works great, no issues!

Backup SMS/MMS and logs

Whats everyone using? Titanium oe another add?

Last I checked titanium doesn't offer that. So I use SMS backup and restore.
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xxprodigyxx11 said:
Last I checked titanium doesn't offer that. So I use SMS backup and restore.
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Doesn't do MMS though.

So use SMS Backup+ as everybody else does.

i use mybackup pro. it does call logs and mms restore. really simple to use too.

Actually guys, Titanium Backup Pro DOES offer it, you guys just don't know which system app to backup.
I use TB to backup and restore between roms, since it take less than 30 seconds, a reboot, and all the messages show up. If I use an app, such as SMS Backup/Restore, it takes a long time compared to TB, but I still back up messages in both apps nonetheless.

theking_13 said:
Actually guys, Titanium Backup Pro DOES offer it, you guys just don't know which system app to backup.
I use TB to backup and restore between roms, since it take less than 30 seconds, a reboot, and all the messages show up. If I use an app, such as SMS Backup/Restore, it takes a long time compared to TB, but I still back up messages in both apps nonetheless.
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So which system app is it? Thanks!

You need to be careful using Titanium on System apps. I used to do this, but found that doing so would sometimes break ability to download MMS (Even when moving to newer version of same ROM). Depending on Phone/ROM i use MyBackupPro or SMS Backup & Restore. Usually use MyBackupPro first as it'll do MMS/SMS/Phone Log, but I've had it where on some phones it doesn't restore the timestamp correctly on the new phone. If that's the case, just use it for MMS/Phone Log, and use SMS Backup & Restore for the SMS. It's always worked.

iboj007 said:
So which system app is it? Thanks!
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Its this system app.
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[SMS/MMS/APN] Phone/Messaging Storage 4.0.x-eng etc.
For call history, if anyone is interested, is
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[CONTACTS/CALLS] Contacts Storage 4.0.x-eng etc
lordgodgeneral said:
You need to be careful using Titanium on System apps. I used to do this, but found that doing so would sometimes break ability to download MMS (Even when moving to newer version of same ROM). Depending on Phone/ROM i use MyBackupPro or SMS Backup & Restore. Usually use MyBackupPro first as it'll do MMS/SMS/Phone Log, but I've had it where on some phones it doesn't restore the timestamp correctly on the new phone. If that's the case, just use it for MMS/Phone Log, and use SMS Backup & Restore for the SMS. It's always worked.
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Never happened to me, I've done this since the Samsung Vibrant days and never had a problem unless the Android version was different. Ie, 2.2 vs 2.3
These are the only two system apps I EVER restore btw, I manually configure everything else.

i don't use TB for SMS/MMS/logs.. i use MyBackup root/pro.. simple and it does the job

YoungAceAtlanta said:
i don't use TB for SMS/MMS/logs.. i use MyBackup root/pro.. simple and it does the job
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I tried mybackup root/pro for SMS/MMS when migrating from the Nexus S to the Galaxy Nexus but didn't have good results. Everything got timestamped to the date of restore.

iboj007 said:
I tried mybackup root/pro for SMS/MMS when migrating from the Nexus S to the Galaxy Nexus but didn't have good results. Everything got timestamped to the date of restore.
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actually, i just did backup from galaxy s to nexus, and i can confirm that all timestamps on sms and mms imported perfectly, mybackup pro, not rooted.

Data Transfer (moving info from old phone to Note 4)

what all are you guys using to migrate your app data from your current phone to the Note 4? Helium has been my go-to for awhile but i wanted to know if there were any other options out there that i should consider too. (moderators forgive me if this is a duplicate topic, i didn't see any in this forum thus far)

I honestly wouldn't even bother transferring app data over unless it is extremely important. I wouldn't want to carry files from an old phone to a new one. Keep it fresh and don't bring over dirty files. May not do anything bad but just my take. Kinda same thing when you wipe data when flashing roms. Dirty flashing can lead to unwanted issues, just as carrying over files from another phone can.
Unless you find a good app to do so. Keep us posted.

thank you. i'm primarily interested in retaining my game data, such as Subway Surfers, Clumsy Ninja, Angry Birds, etc, where it's taken awhile to level up and i would hate to start fresh. i also always transfer text messages and call logs as well. i use SMS Backup/Restore for my texts, Helium for system settings and other app data, and Verizon Cloud for my call logs. i never rooted the S5, been so busy with work i haven't had time to look into tinkering with those settings, so i know that Titanium Backup would not be an option.

Good question. . . I have used Titatnium Backup in the past problem there however is root on N4.
What tu3218 does make sense as well unless you had some way to guarantee or verify it wasn't going to create a bunch of junk in directories which shouldn't exist.
If someone has a good solution I would like to hear it as well. I have three 2-step verify apps which would be nice to just transfer rather than removing and adding manually.

Helium
I bought the full version of Helium and that will transfer all save game data. I downloaded all my apps fresh from the play store after I activated the note. I then used Helium to restore a backup of the games I wanted to keep my save data on.
I also used reware my backup pro to restore my call logs, small, and mms message database.

cbdudek said:
I bought the full version of Helium and that will transfer all save game data. I downloaded all my apps fresh from the play store after I activated the note. I then used Helium to restore a backup of the games I wanted to keep my save data on.
I also used reware my backup pro to restore my call logs, small, and mms message database.
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+1 - Righ on cbdudek. That is exactly how I would do it.
* My backup will restore - call logs, contacts, sms, mms etc..
* Helium to restore games' backup
*Not recommend to restore system settings, or old apps. Download fresh from play store. The theory is every time you move into a new house, you need to do a good clean up and throw out all the junks....

appreciate it everyone. about to give Helium a go and see what happens. rather than restoring all of my app data, i only backed up the game data this time around, so we will see how that goes. i'll let you all know in the morning what happens. how do you like your Note 4's thus far?

i never use titanium or any auto backup method to transfer files to a new fone. it always causes tiny little glitches here and there. Best thing to do is start fresh. For contacts and calendar its all on my GMAIL. for text messages I use GO SMS so i can backup and restore within that app no problems. I use nova launcher so i can backup my home screen and all my other screens and restore it with nova no issues. beyond that its all manual input. I have a few remote dvr viewing apps and i configure all those again manually as well as all my mail settings and what not.

Helium works best without root and you can migrate the app over wifi.
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Doesn't your Google account back up app data???
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harrytery said:
Doesn't your Google account back up app data???
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Only some apps.