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This is the 3600 mAh Mugen Power extended battery for the SE Xperia X1
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Part 0 – Shipment and Delivery
The package came in bubble wrap envelope.
Pre-ordered it before May 1 release date, and the battery dispatched May 1.
No tracking number provided. Received it May 11, 2009.
The shipping distance is from the Netherlands to the California of the US of A.
Signature confirmation required, so you don’t call the company and lie to them that you didn’t fraudulently ask them to send you a replacement. I was seriously considering about doing this because they didn’t tell me about signature confirmation, and they didn’t give me delivery confirmation.
BTW, I have complained to eBay sellers before that I haven’t received item, and I received second helpings.
Part 1 - X1 3MP Captures
01 – Front Packaging
For 100 dollars + free shipping you get the worst packaging ever from such a “well respected” 3rd party battery maker. At least they awkwardly put some foam/padding inside the package.
02 – Back Packaging
The back packaging is also nothing special, but it’s so cheap. But the good (or maybe bad) part is that they didn’t fuse the back and front seams together like most companies do for these types of packages. This makes it so easy to open the package without damaging. There isn’t even tape to seal it up. Just open it up like a bag of chips.
03 – Model Number
Model NO. HLI-BST41XL
04 – Major Disappointment
Please read the text in this picture. It’s very important if you own this battery. Anyways, I don’t know who to be mad at… should I be mad at Sony/HTC or should I be mad at Mugen? Seriously…is this inevitable? Can anyone tell me?
05 – Easy to Open
See, you can open this with no hassle, unlike other packaging. There will be no damages to the package, and scissors are not required unless you are a kindergartner, a noob, or a drunk.
06 – Unimportant Picture
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07 – Suggestions
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08 - Warnings
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09 - Terrible Warranty Sticker
The warranty message is apparently a sticker with misaligned text. Mugen doesn’t really care about packaging; I tell you that.
10 - Front of Reflective Plastic Cover and Battery
There is a transparent cover/sticker on the front of the battery cover. I took the sticky cover off and the plastic cover is like a mirror but it’s plastic! The typo is still on the battery; it looks exactly like the commercial stock image with the same typo. Way to go Mugen, you’re almost like a Chinese replica phone manufacturer.
11 - Back of Reflective Plastic Cover and Battery.
The plastic feels cheap and looks cheap, especially the interior.
12 - Battery Still Has Typo
I have already covered this dissapointment in a previous photo.
13 - Do Not Do This to Battery
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Part 2 - Canon 7MP Captures
14 - Good Quality Picture of Battery
Look at the bottom, you see that long slit? Guess what it is…it’s electrical tape (I think, correct me if I am wrong). It reminds me of those cheap generic batteries.
15 - Electrical Tape on the Bottom
This is how the tape looks at the bottom of the battery. It looks like it’s going to peel off on its own. Can someone explain to me why this is necessary? Should I peel it off?
16 - Electrical Tape on the Top
This is how the tape looks at the top of the battery. No other comment, but please answer my question from photo 15.
17 - Phone Starting Up With New Battery
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18 - Nice Reflection A
If you don’t have a mirror screen protector installed on your phone, you can install this extended battery cover to use as a mirror alternative.
19 - Nice Reflection B
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20 - Shiny Corner
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21 - Battery Cover Sucks
The battery cover does not fit perfectly.
22 - Battery Cover Off
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23 - Just Learned That The Chrome Finish of My Phone Is Plastic and Peels Off
Off topic but while I took these pictures, I encountered another disappointment. This time I am disappointed with the Sony Ericsson’s build quality. I always thought that the chrome finish of the Xperia X1 was metal. It’s actually plastic and I just peeled a chunk of it off. Prior to this I thought that the raised bump that used to be there was a minor product defect. I thought that because metal was malleable, maybe it had to bend up a bit. But I am wrong, the chrome is made of cheap plastic. However, the Sony Xperia still has the best build quality compared to most phones that I have ever touched.
24 - So That You Can See
If you can’t see it, here is the square box that will help you locate the damage.
Also, I do not have an image prior to the peeling off of the chrome. And I lost the little piece that broke off.
Part 3 - X1 3MP Captures
25 - Pointless Mugen Screenshot
Why do they even have this picture? Are we so stupid that we don’t know what full charge is? Or are stupid to think that most people are this stupid? Or are they smart that they know most of us are stupid?
26 – Operating Instructions
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27 - Operating Instructions Zoomed Out
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So How Much Thicker Is The Battery?
Take the OEM battery cover off of the X1
Try this at home, take the OEM battery out of your X1.
Put the OEM battery cover back on the X1
Put the OEM battery on top of the battery cover.
This is exactly how thick the Mugen battery is on your X1.
How Does It Affect Pocket Space?
My phone has become as thick as my wallet, but I am easy going guy when it comes to pocket space. Besides, I hang my keys on my pants with a bolt snap.
Here is my configuration:
1) phone always to the left of myself [left pocket]
2) wallet always to the right of myself [right pocket]
3) keys hanging on waistline to they can jangle and annoy people while I am walking
4) garage door opener always held on my left hand
How Does It Affect My Small Hands?
Weight:
Not too noticeable…
Keyboard Typing:
Typing has become much easier. Well at first, I thought it ruined my typing Xperience, but that’s because I got used to typing on a thin keyboard. Anyways I learned that it took 5 minutes of practice to get used to a thick keyboard and it took me like 5 days of practice to get used to a thin keyboard. This could also be because my prior Xperience with the X1 keyboard has gotten me so pro at typing that I can adapt to any modifications even faster. Whatever, your opinion on this is based on yourself. I think it is because I like something to “handle” while I am typing. Typing on the previously thin keyboard is like typing on paper. Seriously.
Portrait Handling:
I have small hands for a male but I am telling you, wow holding this thicker device is satisfying! I feel like I have a grip and if someone tackled me, I would still be holding on to the phone.
I didn’t feel comfortable using my stylus on the thick device though. Do you know why I don’t favor the grip this time? It is the relatively. Suddenly the stylus loss weight, and I can’t balance myself with the phone.
Landscape Handling:
I’ve already explained typing on the keyboard. But in regards to holding, I felt more comfortable in portrait mode, and holding it to watch YouTube isn’t as fun, but holding it to type is better.
The Cool Thing About The Extended Battery?
Wow, this is a bonus. The battery is shaped in a way that the phone can stand up in landscape mode! It can stand up while the keyboard is out and while the keyboard is in!
Works best on a flat surface.
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Aesthetics:
Aside from the noticeable imperfect fit, the cover looks very nice but it doesn’t beat the OEM cover.
The mirror capabilities of the cover is great.
Quality:
Battery cover feels cheap.
Packaging is one of the worst of all time for something that should cost 100 dollars.
Bad typo, low quality instructions, low quality packaging, and misaligned text.
Battery cover doesn’t fit perfectly; meaning there are noticeable gaps, but it still attached to the device 100%.
The charge quality is overkill, everything I do lasts 3 times longer...tired of running out battery after watching 2-3 movies? Now you can watch 6-9 movies!
Pros:
You can use the battery cover as a mirror to look at your face and under a chicks skirt…etc.
Battery cover easy to remove, unlike the OEM cover
It doesn’t feel like falling off but you notice gaps between device and attached battery cover
Extended battery cover can be used like a kick stand, landscape cradle
Improves my keyboard typing and makes it more comfortable
Feels comfortable while talking on the phone
Cons:
Mirror smudges
Battery cover too easy to remove, unlike the OEM cover
Sony Errison typo
Imperfect Fit [but it still attaches completely]
Incompatible device drivers or hardware for battery = inaccurate capacity measurement
Extra weight, extra bulk
Too expensive for build and packaging quality
The Xperia can not recognize the actual amount of remaining battery.
Verdict [w/o Duration Test]:
I don’t suggest you buy this battery. But since my phone can now stand on landscape mode, I will keep the battery.
Verdict [w/ Duration Test]:
The battery lasts really really long, actually it plays mp3 for more than 8 hours non-stop...imagine how long it will last in standby mode... I suggest you buy this if you don't care about any of the cons, but a major flaw is that it is impossible to determine how much charge you have left in your battery.
This is a very nice review. I am still reading. Thank you for spending time for doing this.
Cheers
So far, the battery doesn't last any longer than the normal 1500 mAh. A big let down. The packaging did say that I need to charge and disrcharge 5 times to reach full capacity. I will do that and see if it this extends battery life.
Using the 3600 so far drains as fast as the OEM.
Also, the four illuminations lights instructions doesn't seem accurate. For some reason when I charge my phone with the battery, 3 of the lights flash at the same time and than one loner light flashes after it. This is the sequence of light illumination that I see. But this loner light is always the upper left light located near the start menu.
UPDATES will be included in the first 3 postings, soon.
poetryrocksalot said:
So far, the battery doesn't last any longer than the normal 1500 mAh. A big let down. The packaging did say that I need to charge and disrcharge 5 times to reach full capacity. I will do that and see if it this extends battery life.
Using the 3600 so far drains as fast as the OEM.
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maybe that's the driver thing... did you try to let it discharge to 0% and see if the phone continues to operate?
anyways... to thick for my taste, the back cover is horrible (looks a bit better with the silver phone... but with the black one...) and holy ****, how could they release this with the "Erisson" XD
cursor said:
maybe that's the driver thing... did you try to let it discharge to 0% and see if the phone continues to operate?
anyways... to thick for my taste, the back cover is horrible (looks a bit better with the silver phone... but with the black one...) and holy ****, how could they release this with the "Erisson" XD
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The battery came pre-charged at 50%. I charged it to max, and now I am using it until it reaches 0. The cover looks quite nice on my silver Xperia.
BTW, black Xperia sucks...the black oem battery cover peels off "paint" I think. This problem doesn't exist for the silver oem battery cover. I assuming that the black Xperia's are basically coated with fine black paint.
People should have gotten the silver one.
Also what I meant by "the battery doesn't last any longer" I mean the battery drains just as fast. The amount of time it took me to drain the battery by 30% feels the same on both batteries. So if it takes 5 hours to drain 30% on the small battery, it also takes 5 hours to drain 30% on the extended battery. I haven't ran out of battery on the extended battery yet. I am sorry for the confusion.
UPDATES will be included in the first 3 postings, soon.
i disagree with the black xperia sucking
imo it looks much better tho the paint does come off but untill it gets very bad , it looks miles better than the silver
Very nice review and pictures, thank you.
I too have just received the extended battery... the fit is perfect in my case... if fit does not relate to size that is
It is a bulky unit, and the verdict is still out on the usability factor vs. the extra size, weight and different case that you'd need to use with it [I am not a pocket phone guy).
I had previously loaded the 1% battery increment hack; I wonder if the updated dll may track the capacity better than the stock rom's or not... it is too early to see.
Will post back after a few days usage experience.
SO you were saying that the xperia housing wasnt cheap at all an already it peel off...jajaj
Sorry i couldt resist it...
I have the same issue...
So happy not been the only one...
vagelis said:
Very nice review and pictures, thank you.
I too have just received the extended battery... the fit is perfect in my case... if fit does not relate to size that is
It is a bulky unit, and the verdict is still out on the usability factor vs. the extra size, weight and different case that you'd need to use with it [I am not a pocket phone guy).
I had previously loaded the 1% battery increment hack; I wonder if the updated dll may track the capacity better than the stock rom's or not... it is too early to see.
Will post back after a few days usage experience.
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I haven't installed the 1% battery, I usually wait 1-3 months for bugs to clear up before I start installing something new.
I agree with the "size" doesn't matter.
One question though, what do you mean it fits perfectly? Does your battery have a gap between battery cover and the device? If you look at picture 21, There is a noticeable gap between the new cover and the device. It still holds on to the phone but dust and moisture can get into the battery more easily
Fulgore69 said:
SO you were saying that the xperia housing wasnt cheap at all an already it peel off...jajaj
Sorry i couldt resist it...
I have the same issue...
So happy not been the only one...
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You're evil to be happy that someone else have the same problem.
I tell you what, if I have aids, it'll calm me down if you did too. XD
poetryrocksalot said:
I haven't installed the 1% battery, I usually wait 1-3 months for bugs to clear up before I start installing something new.
I agree with the "size" doesn't matter.
One question though, what do you mean it fits perfectly? Does your battery have a gap between battery cover and the device? If you look at picture 21, There is a noticeable gap between the new cover and the device. It still holds on to the phone but dust and moisture can get into the battery more easily
You're evil to be happy that someone else have the same problem.
I tell you what, if I have aids, it'll calm me down if you did too. XD
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I saw your pictures, and yes I *do not* have the gap you have on the side the plastic cover meets the casing close to the SE logo. The plastic cover meets the edge of the phone case more smoothly than the pics you posted.
I have had my phone shipped to SE twice for the famus cracking problem, and the first time I received it back that plastic backing (of the phone) was not fully aligned even witht he metal cover...I had to press the plastic cover until it 'clipped' back in place. I am not saying that your issue is on the phone side, but it is somewhere...
Perhaps mugen's shipped you an early run of the plastic top....
i notice a few comments about sonys build quality...remember that this was built by HTC... i think sony was as dissappointed as we are and theyve given them the boot. rightly so.
i wonder if this is two "normal" batterys strapped together internally?? lol. it wouldnt be the first time a company has done this. from the thickness and the construction i wouldnt be surprised. and from the way the battery drains this seems to support this. that would explain why it drains at the same rate as a normal battery. youll probably get to near zero and then youll have many more hours before it runs out because then its draining the second battery. hopefully your update when youve completely drained the battery will shed more light on this.
whats different about the charging illumination? mine has always flashed three then a single one. and from what i can tell this is the standard. charging sequence.
thanks for the extensive review, it was very helpful.
anothadave said:
i wonder if this is two "normal" batterys strapped together internally?? lol. it wouldnt be the first time a company has done this. from the thickness and the construction i wouldnt be surprised. and from the way the battery drains this seems to support this. that would explain why it drains at the same rate as a normal battery ...
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I would not think that this in the case, as the stock battery is 1500mAh, and the Mugen is 3600mAh... the battery drain is always proportional to the applied load, so, given the extra capacity and the same load (the x1) you will have a longer runtime. The only issue is, the bios will not be able to 'read' the additional capacity, as it is not calibrated for it.
We expect overall performance of the battery to be somewhere in the middle, i.e. about 2/3 of the nominal 3600mAh capacity...as xda devs have always given us new things to play with, there even might be an updated battery.dll or calibration configuration we'd eventually be able to test with it.
anothadave said:
i notice a few comments about sonys build quality...remember that this was built by HTC... i think sony was as dissappointed as we are and theyve given them the boot. rightly so.
i wonder if this is two "normal" batterys strapped together internally?? lol. it wouldnt be the first time a company has done this. from the thickness and the construction i wouldnt be surprised. and from the way the battery drains this seems to support this. that would explain why it drains at the same rate as a normal battery. youll probably get to near zero and then youll have many more hours before it runs out because then its draining the second battery. hopefully your update when youve completely drained the battery will shed more light on this.
whats different about the charging illumination? mine has always flashed three then a single one. and from what i can tell this is the standard. charging sequence.
thanks for the extensive review, it was very helpful.
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Exactly! Mine flashes three at the same time, and then 1 flashes alone. However, the instruction says that the flashing pattern rotates, but don't. Although, prior to yesterday, I didn't even know the "specific" illumination pattern for charging was 3 lights, then 1 light, WITHOUT rotation.
And about the HTC build quality. I also thought that SE switched to Mobinova because of the bad HTC build quality. However, I am not looking forward to the X2 as much because Mobinnova has only made 1 phone, and the public opinions on this phone are so far VERY BAD.
I think SE should switch to Nokia and Nokia should switch to Windows Mobile. Otherwise, just stick with HTC and give them another chance.
So far, the battery meters of my phone all say 0% and the the phone is still on for 30 minutes now. Prior to this, when the phone was 10 and 5 percent, I got messages that the battery was low, and then very low... but I am really looking forward to XDA developing us a driver, but I bet those people who can develop these drivers need donations for a test battery.
Also, prior to when I said that the extended battery drains at the same rate as the OEM battery was because the extended battery works awkwardly. I think the battery will last longer, than I thought. Basically, the phone only recognizes about 50 to 75 percent of the battery's current charge. The remaining 50 to 25 percent aren't included in the battery meter.
I also think that if you want this phone to charge to 100%, you have to leave it charging for an extra hour after the battery meter reaches 100%...since I am sort of uncertain whether 100% is actually 50% to 75% or 100%
I think that the battery still charges after 100% but when it reaches 100% the battery meter stops counting, and when you drain the phone it will reach 0% because the remaining charge is not remembered by the device.
I am unsure of this. I could be wrong.
Perhaps the battery program Batti 2.4 can show the 'real' power?
I have the mugen 1800 and it also shows strange behavior with the power meter, like when the meter shows about 30% left.... a few minutes later phone dead, battery empty!
michaelthemage said:
Perhaps the battery program Batti 2.4 can show the 'real' power?
I have the mugen 1800 and it also shows strange behavior with the power meter, like when the meter shows about 30% left.... a few minutes later phone dead, battery empty!
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I am using WisBar advance, it has a battery meter, and it works EXACTLY the same as Batti Power indicator. I already told you...all of my battery meter shows the same results.
It has been about 2 hours of non stop Rock Music (Pocket Player) and the the phone still has enough juice to keep playing at 0 percent charge!!!!
Don't know that program. Can it show the juice too? Would be interesting if those batteries 'really' have 1800 or 3600.
And how is the battery's temp after 2 hours of music nonstop?
i also noticed the right side of the chrome edge left a little gap between it and the back cover. it must have been because of the many times i took off the battery cover.
michaelthemage said:
Don't know that program. Can it show the juice too? Would be interesting if those batteries 'really' have 1800 or 3600.
And how is the battery's temp after 2 hours of music nonstop?
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It's been 3 hours now, and the music is still running, the battery is warm but not hot. Of course it's not like I am talking on the phone. A phone gets hot when you talk and press your cheeks, not when you play music.
Edit: It took like 5 non stop hours of non stop music to deplete itself after the zero percent mark. As for the amount of hours after the Zero percent: it doesn't matter, because the battery drains just as fast as the battery drains on the standard battery.
Hey guys. i was wondering if there is a magnetic case for the EVO that would allow me to stick it to my Motorcycle gas tank. that way i can see incoming calls/texts and decide if it's important enough to pull over and deal with.
if anyone has any suggestions, even DIY's i'd love to hear 'em! thanks
Lots of tank bags with clear windows would be your best bet.http://www.newenough.com/parts/luggage/tank_bags/
What I am interested in is a solid handlebar mount that would let me video my ride.
you don't think that shock would be a problem? bouncing over bad roads, potholes, speed bumps, normal riding vibration would be a problem? also, i have yet to see a good bike solution that would secure the phone well enough. my fear has always been it would vibrate loose from it's enclosure and fall out during a ride. that would SUCK!!
SilverStone641 said:
you don't think that shock would be a problem? bouncing over bad roads, potholes, speed bumps, normal riding vibration would be a problem? also, i have yet to see a good bike solution that would secure the phone well enough. my fear has always been it would vibrate loose from it's enclosure and fall out during a ride. that would SUCK!!
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I'm with you on that. With some rubber or foam to dampen vibration, and a solid stand, I don't see how this is out of reach.
One would have to wonder what the effect would be on a phone with a powerful magnetic field right next to it. It may mess up stuff like the compass, the GPS, and the accelerometer. If powerful enough even the battery. I would be careful.
kf2mq said:
One would have to wonder what the effect would be on a phone with a powerful magnetic field right next to it. It may mess up stuff like the compass, the GPS, and the accelerometer. If powerful enough even the battery. I would be careful.
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Changing magnetic fields are what mess up electronics so the magnet there stationary *should be OK*. Here's an option - a rare earth magnet inserted into the Seidio 3500 mAh battery back - i.e. use a standard battery and put it into the case for the extended battery. Then put the phone in the extended Innocase and it'll all be held together. Throw some felt on the back to protect your tank and away you go.
* I am not responsible for any damage to your phone.
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And for power you can use an SAE (i.e. Batterytender) to 12V socket adapter from Powerlet here.
I just bought a bike and have been thinking about this too.
I don't want to mount my phone for the stated reasons, vibration and risk of losing it. But have you seen this Sony LiveView?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/28/sony-ericsson-liveview-acts-as-a-1-3-inch-remote-control-for-you/
I'd love to get one of those and stick it to the gas tank!
Wow! i hadn't seen that(and i frequent engadget) good find! any word on pricing?
i had another thought the other day. what about using a football playbook wristband? i dunno if it's even feasible but i figured id run by the local sporting goods and give it a shot
phobos512 said:
Changing magnetic fields are what mess up electronics so the magnet there stationary *should be OK*. Here's an option - a rare earth magnet inserted into the Seidio 3500 mAh battery back - i.e. use a standard battery and put it into the case for the extended battery. Then put the phone in the extended Innocase and it'll all be held together. Throw some felt on the back to protect your tank and away you go.
* I am not responsible for any damage to your phone.
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I have a couple small rare earth magnets in my battery cover. The only drawback is the compass and metal detector functions are unavailable (no loss to me). Personally, I would worry more about my tank scratching than anything. The tank bag with clear cover is likely your best bet.
Personally, I ride to ride...not to look at my phone. Be safe.
* I am also not responsible for any damage to your phone.
SilverStone641 said:
Wow! i hadn't seen that(and i frequent engadget) good find! any word on pricing?
i had another thought the other day. what about using a football playbook wristband? i dunno if it's even feasible but i figured id run by the local sporting goods and give it a shot
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I fee like a wristband would be more of a pain than it's worth. Of course I also listen to music from my phone on a bluetooth helment, and woud like an easy way to skip tracks. With the phone on your wrist, you obviously won't be able to interact with it at all.
I haven't seen any pricing info, and "final quarter this year" is all I've heard on release date. But hey, we are now in that final quarter
no offense but when your riding i really really hope you arent interacting with your phone anyway. People seem to have death wishes now a day.
I had a handlebar mount for my droid incredible for one main use
gps maps/directions
It worked great on with phone mounted right in front of you there is no worry about taking eyes off road, you still see whats going on in front of you while glancing at maps, in fact easier and safer than changing you car radio etc!
it was also nice if a call came in while on a long ride on great roads here in tennessee, i would see it ringing and just pull over to answer/call back
makes it very handy while out riding for the day
Has anybody tried the tetrax mounts yet with their galaxy nexus? Before I purchase one I'm curious of two things.
1. How well does the the magnet stick to the battery door since the battery cover is textured? I have an extra cover that I'll use simply for this.
2. Does the magnet interfere with the NFC and/or screen at all?
In case your not sure what I'm referring to:
http://store.tetrax.us/xway-line/fixway
I have used this on other phones, including my G2, MyTouch 3G and G1 and it worked very well on all those phones. However, due to the textured back on the Galaxy Nexus, the metal button that stick to the battery door does not stay on. I have tried replacing the double sided tape with stronger automotive 3M tape, but that doesn't work either. It'll stay on for a little while and come back off. The only solution would be to find a battery door that is smooth.
I can't answer if it interferes with NFC or the screen, but it shouldn’t. If anything, it might interfere with the magnet on the compass, but that has not been the case with my other phones.
MetalMessiah78 said:
I have used this on other phones, including my G2, MyTouch 3G and G1 and it worked very well on all those phones. However, due to the textured back on the Galaxy Nexus, the metal button that stick to the battery door does not stay on. I have tried replacing the double sided tape with stronger automotive 3M tape, but that doesn't work either. It'll stay on for a little while and come back off. The only solution would be to find a battery door that is smooth.
I can't answer if it interferes with NFC or the screen, but it shouldn’t. If anything, it might interfere with the magnet on the compass, but that has not been the case with my other phones.
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So you've actually tried it on the GNex and it don't stick very well? Did you by chance try holding it on there for several hours with a strong clamp or anything? I really want one of these but worried it's a waste of money with this phone
I have actually tried it, but not with a clamp. Just following the regular directions. On my other phones, it created a very strong bond and it takes a lot of effort to remove. With the Nexus, it stays on the first couple of times you mount it, but that's about it. It's not an issue with the weight, as the G2 feels twice as heavy as the Nexus, especially with an extra capacity battery. It's the texture on the battery door. It almost feels like it has a Teflon coating.
MetalMessiah78 said:
I have actually tried it, but not with a clamp. Just following the regular directions. On my other phones, it created a very strong bond and it takes a lot of effort to remove. With the Nexus, it stays on the first couple of times you mount it, but that's about it. It's not an issue with the weight, as the G2 feels twice as heavy as the Nexus, especially with an extra capacity battery. It's the texture on the battery door. It almost feels like it has a Teflon coating.
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Would you mind holding up one of the magnets to the battery door and test out the NFC to see if it interferes with it (if you have the ability to). This is my main question as I could always put the magnet on a case I guess.
Thanks!
I don't have another NFC device to try it right now, but my brother has the Nexus S and I can try it when I see him later tonight. The magnet doesn't go on the battery door though. What you stick on the battery door is just a piece of metal. The actual magnet is on the device that you mount to your dash or vent, so unless you plan on using NFC while it's on your dash, it should not interfere.
Plus, NFC uses low power radio frequency to transfer information (similar to Bluetooth). It does not use magnets. The only thing in the phone that could be affected would be the compass, as it finds your relation to magnetic North. Even then, I'm sure the compass works through software and is not an actual magnet, as it has never affected GPS. As a matter of fact, I have 2 Tetrax products, the one that mounts to the dash, which I have in my car, and the one that you attach to the vent for when I use a rental on trips for the sole purpose of Navigation. As you can imagine, I was very disappointed when I could not get the metal button to stick. I might have to try it with a case also.
MetalMessiah78 said:
I don't have another NFC device to try it right now, but my brother has the Nexus S and I can try it when I see him later tonight. The magnet doesn't go on the battery door though. What you stick on the battery door is just a piece of metal. The actual magnet is on the device that you mount to your dash or vent, so unless you plan on using NFC while it's on your dash, it should not interfere.
Plus, NFC uses low power radio frequency to transfer information (similar to Bluetooth). It does not use magnets. The only thing in the phone that could be affected would be the compass, as it finds your relation to magnetic North. Even then, I'm sure the compass works through software and is not an actual magnet, as it has never affected GPS. As a matter of fact, I have 2 Tetrax products, the one that mounts to the dash, which I have in my car, and the one that you attach to the vent for when I use a rental on trips for the sole purpose of Navigation. As you can imagine, I was very disappointed when I could not get the metal button to stick. I might have to try it with a case also.
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Awesome so yea I don't think it'll interfere because I was thinking the part you stick to the back of the phone is magnetic, but if your saying it's not all should be well. Either way I went ahead and ordered it yesterday anyway so I'll figure out a way to get it to stick to either the door or a case. Thanks for your insight!
Nope, it's just a metal button. It actually comes with 4 or 5 different ones of all sizes and styles.
I have this installed on my nexus, I put the mount on my dash and the NFC sticker on my knob for the ac that get covered up. Everytime I put my phone on the mount, the nfc changes it to car mode, volume up, full brightness and launches sirius xm radio...works very well, sometimes I have to move it a bit to get to read the nfc, but thats only cause i have the nfc a little too far at the bottom of the phone and it mounts at a slight angle, not due to any interference at all. I have NFC chips all around and never have problems reading them at all, probably a good idea not to mount the metal chip right in the middle of the battery area, just in case. I also used a clamp to hold it on for about 3 or 4 hours and has had little trouble sticking to the texture.
I have had a few incidents if I pull off the phone, rather than slide it off the backing will actually unclip a single clip.
@ejkeebler what do you mean by NFC stickers all around? Did you make stickers to automatically change your settings on your phone? That's brilliant! How did you do it?
I might also have to try a clamp. I don't really want to put a case on my phone.
MetalMessiah78 said:
@ejkeebler what do you mean by NFC stickers all around? Did you make stickers to automatically change your settings on your phone? That's brilliant! How did you do it?
I might also have to try a clamp. I don't really want to put a case on my phone.
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I also have NFC stickers everywhere. have them when I walk in the front door of my house, one in my office at work, one in each vehicle, one in my wallet LOL. They are awesome. Set them to change settings or do tasker tasks and you can rewrite over them if you ever want to change anything. One of the best phone features I've ever used. That's why i was concerned about the magnets interfering with the NFC!
dcoy82 said:
I also have NFC stickers everywhere. have them when I walk in the front door of my house, one in my office at work, one in each vehicle, one in my wallet LOL. They are awesome. Set them to change settings or do tasker tasks and you can rewrite over them if you ever want to change anything. One of the best phone features I've ever used. That's why i was concerned about the magnets interfering with the NFC!
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Where can I get / how do I 'program' these NFC Stickers?? This sounds awesome.
raing said:
Where can I get / how do I 'program' these NFC Stickers?? This sounds awesome.
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A quick search came up with this: http://www.tagstand.com/
Seems like this could open up a whole line of fun options. Would love to hear how others have done it, though.
raing said:
Where can I get / how do I 'program' these NFC Stickers?? This sounds awesome.
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www.tagstand.com to purchase the tags. Tell him DCoy82 sent you! The 30mm ultralight c circle NDEF formatted seem to be the only ones I've bought that work with the nexus so far.
Once you get them you can download program called NFC Task Launcher off the market to program them.
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dcoy82 said:
www.tagstand.com to purchase the tags. Tell him DCoy82 sent you! The 30mm ultralight c circle NDEF formatted seem to be the only ones I've bought that work with the nexus so far.
Once you get them you can download program called NFC Task Launcher off the market to program them.
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That is so awesome. This is my first phone with NFC so I'm barely starting to learn all the cool things that you can do with it. I tried Android Beam for the first time with my brother on Tuesday and it works great, though I wish you could beam other things such as pictures. By the way, the metal button does not interfere with NFC. I will let them know that you recommended me. Thank you!
If your interested in NFC, here's a few spots that got me started
http://androidforums.com/nexus-s/336155-what-do-you-use-nfc-tasker.html
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/weekend_project_make_your_own_nfc_tags.php
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnqmyNEQPq0&feature=email&email=comment_reply_received
and the tags I bought were from here:
http://tagsfordroid.com/tags/Home.html
I got them cause i liked the having the android on them, i think they are a tiny bit less expensive elsewhere, and these are a little thicker than I'd like (like a puffy sticker, about the same thickness of a penny) but you can get many in other places.
by itself i'm not sure nfc task launcher does it for me, but in combination with tasker, it's ridiculous how much can be done....would still love to see what others have come up with.
I love those stickers with the Android! Thanks for the links. I will need to read up on it more. I am definitely interested. This is a lot more exciting stuff then what Google showed off at the I/O last year!
Thats a good idea. Being in IT, we have dead Hard Drives laying around that have awesome magnets in them. They're real slim. I bet I could superglue one to my nexus's battery cover for under the TPU case that would hold. They're thin so it might not screw with the case (but it might).
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I got them cause i liked the having the android on them, i think they are a tiny bit less expensive elsewhere, and these are a little thicker than I'd like (like a puffy sticker, about the same thickness of a penny) but you can get many in other places.
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Yeah, it looks like it's $8 for 2. I just picked up 5 over at tagstand.com for the same price and found 10 for $13 over at http://buynfcstickers.com.
Hopefully you guys are all having good experience with the guy at tag stand. His customer service was great for me and I'll definatley be going back there in the future.
Oh and by the way, I got my new tetrax magnet set in today and not having any issues with the magnet at allowing necessary nor with the metal part sticking to the stock battery door. Only real issue so far is you have to slide it off just right or the battery door just pops off the nexus lol. Highly recommend though!
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Just received my zerolemon 9300mAh battery and must say I love it. Except for one thing and that is the lack of nfc. On my old cheapo chinese flip case there is the nfc reading hardware and it looks to me just glued on or whatever. Can I just cut out or carefully rip off that peice and stick it to the battery and runs some wires between the connectors? Im not much of a hard modder so I have no clue if this is how the nfc components work or if there is more too it than this. Would something like this in theory work? If so any recommendations on the wire to use and anything else helpful? Thanks
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Incompetent decomposition of batteries risks explosion and injury to the eyes and/or face
Hello everyone,
As many of you, I still love my nexus 5 better than any other phone. Battery life of course has always been a weak point and finding a decent battery in 2022 is not easy. So I got tired of it and decided to find a solution. I took some ideas from other battery mods available on XDA (thank you for that), like filing down the aluminum case. The rest is basic electronics skills
n5
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ibb.co
n5_2
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So, as per other mods:
Remove all boards from casing, Seal all gaps with masking tape. File down top and bottom battery compartment dividers
Clean with a soft brush and vaccum
Reinstall everything, except battery
Remove board from oem battery
Install OEM battery board on samsung cell and use Kapton tape for insulation. I soldered the terminals on the pcb
Install battery and enjoy
I initially installed a used samsung battery but it was damaged so I ordered another one, probably fake, but battery life is amazing
Fab
You should clearly write that incompetent decomposition of batteries risks explosion and injury to the eyes and/or face.
fabryxy said:
Disclaimer:
Incompetent decomposition of batteries risks explosion and injury to the eyes and/or face
Hello everyone,
As many of you, I still love my nexus 5 better than any other phone. Battery life of course has always been a weak point and finding a decent battery in 2022 is not easy. So I got tired of it and decided to find a solution. I took some ideas from other battery mods available on XDA (thank you for that), like filing down the aluminum case. The rest is basic electronics skills
n5
n5 album hosted in ImgBB
ibb.co
n5_2
n5_2 album hosted in ImgBB
ibb.co
So, as per other mods:
Remove all boards from casing, Seal all gaps with masking tape. File down top and bottom battery compartment dividers
Clean with a soft brush and vaccum
Reinstall everything, except battery
Remove board from oem battery
Install OEM battery board on samsung cell and use Kapton tape for insulation. I soldered the terminals on the pcb
Install battery and enjoy
I initially installed a used samsung battery but it was damaged so I ordered another one, probably fake, but battery life is amazing
Fab
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nice! im looking forward to doing this mod, i've completed the 5x mod. now this one should be cake...