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I tried the Oxygen v2.0-RC7 rom a few days ago. Has been working relatively well with some minor bugs (like not being able to move icons without them dissapoearing). But yesterday something really odd happened and got me kinda worried.
I turned the sound off on the phone via the lockscreen, then locked the phone in my locker when i worked out. The battery was at about 80% at the time. When i came back about two hours later my phone was _REALLY_ hot and the battery was totally drained and the phone dead (ofc).
Anyone else experienced this? New user here so can't post in the official thread for the rom. What got me worried was that the phone was getting extremely hot.
There is nothing wrong with the ROM as far as battery drain is concerned. I have been running RC7 since release and with my current configuration get almost 3 days of battery usage before I need to re-charge.
I would suggest that it is more likely to be a rogue application that is constantly running in the background eating the battery.
If the phone was getting hot, I would suggest that an application is hammering the CPU (such as navigation) which would drain the battery pretty fast.
Odd thing is, I had the phone in my pocket for maybe 3 hours prior to this incident. Then it was at about 80% (remember because I checked when i turned off the sound). Then only thing I did was turn off the sound via the lockscreen. Didn't even unlock the phone at all. Then this happened.
Seems really strange. But it has only happened this once, and it is a homebuilt rom so I don't really expect everything to be perfect. Just that I've had the phone run hot before, just not this hot.
Was actually worried it had broke before i got home and put the charger in It was completely dead. Couldn't even start to boot up that you sometimes can do when the phone has died and then rested for a few mins.
could be a faulty handset, i had issues with my phone running out of battery pretty fast and after a warrenty replacement seems to have sorted it.
phone shouldnt be over heating...
Kesio said:
I turned the sound off on the phone via the lockscreen, then locked the phone in my locker when i worked out. The battery was at about 80% at the time. When i came back about two hours later my phone was _REALLY_ hot and the battery was totally drained and the phone dead (ofc).
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Wasn't a metal locker, by any chance ? A metal locker would function as a faraday cage, meaning your phone would get at best a very weak signal, and would be using maximum power to try and communicate with the base station. Would explain why the phone was hot, too.
My defy is barely 2 months old, i am running CM7.1 since it was released and its quite smooth with no problems till now.
But recently i went to a remote place (i made another post somewhere) and switched SIM cards, i switched back SIM again now. Since then, my defy randomly dies sometimes while holding it and most times while in my pocket. My battery percent looks fine (i wiped it just in case).
This happened to me several times, i suspected the battery was loose, so at the beginning i reinserted my battery 2-3 times and it would start again. But now even after reinserting the battery it refuses to turn on, i usually need to connect it to a charger (or USB) and after the LED light turns on, i can switch it back on, disconnect it and use it again.. until it dies again randomly.
I tried inserting a piece of paper as padding to prevent the battery from moving, but didnt help much. When i shake it a bit, it dies too, so it might be a loose battery or some hardware problem, but the reason im baffled is why i cant turn it on again without connecting it to a charger, and also why it dies randomly when i leave it alone and didnt even touch it. Also, i never dropped it even once or mishandle it at all to make the battery be loose, when i insert tha battery, it still snaps/click into place just like when it was new.
ANy help suggestions will be appreciated. Sorry for the long post, just wanted to provide a detailed account.
I found an almost similar problem but no answer here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109429
Firstly, check if your setVsel settings is all ok and not too low down specially the voltages settings. If you're not using SetVsel, then check your 2nd-ini in system - overclock settings, see if it enable and check those individual settings which might be too low that caused the phone under power/voltage and triggered self shut down.
Another option to narrow down your issue is trying another battery. Buy or borrow from a friend. If the case of random shut down still occur, then it might be hardware issue in your Defy mainboard. BUT.. I would flash it to another rom to make 100% sure before sending it back to the shop.
Thanks a lot for the reply, im not sure if its an overclock or vsel issue because it even dies sometime while booting up if i move it around, so im guessing battery or mainboard issue?? Ill have to check with another battery first then... hoping its not a mainboard issue coz the nearest service centre is miles away from where i live
Hi guys, I'm experiencing some power issue with my ZL. I have recently updated via Seus to .283 firmware....once I reboot, it gets to the Sony screen and then it shuts down. If the phone is plugged in it boots fine and remains on. The battery charge shows 80%. Afterwards I unlocked the bootloader and flashed the KK advanced kernel to see the battery percentage in recovery and it also shows 80%. Is there anyway to check if its the battery without replacing it?
Aphex33 said:
Is there anyway to check if its the battery without replacing it?
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There is a battery testing app for Sony devices (you can find it here), but, obviously, it requires your phone to be able to stay on battery power for the time of the testing...
What happens with your phone if you unplug the charger once fully booted? Does it immediately shut down, or is only happening during startup?
The phone shuts down immediately after I remove the usb cord. Offline charging looks as though it's working. I'll see what the app says, thank you.
* btw the phone stays on when in recovery which is odd
* the battery app requires you to remove power which I cannot do
* help me!..using a Z Ultra at the moment...things huge!
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The phone shuts down immediately after I remove the usb cord. Offline charging looks as though it's working. I'll see what the app says, thank you.
* btw the phone stays on when in recovery which is odd
* the battery app requires you to remove power which I cannot do
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Well, yeah, that's what I meant saying the phone has to be able to stay on battery...
I think (just an uneducated guess ) that the recovery doesn't have a mechanism to analyze battery health/status, but the Android OS does (and so does the bootloader). That's why it stays on in recovery, but when booted (or in the process of booting) into the OS, the system somehow thinks that the battery level is too low, and shuts down as a safety measure. I have seen multiple times that the battery levels shown in recovery and in Android are drastically different, which kinda confirms my thoughts...
All in all, it looks to me like your battery is acting up. Just to save you an effort and expense of getting a new battery, at least until you know for sure the battery is the problem, I can suggest something to you... I am expecting a replacement for my battery in a day or two. My old (current) battery still works, it's just old and doesn't last very long, that's why I am replacing it. I could send the old one to you (Vancouver to Winnipeg is not a big deal), so you can try it out to pinpoint the problem. If it works, then you know it's the battery, and you can either buy a new one, or keep my old one for the time being. If you are OK with the idea, just send me a PM with the address to send it to.
I think I'm just going to buy a battery of ebay. I really appreciate your offer to send me your old battery, but its probably best I go new since I don't want this issue arising again. Thanks again for all your help.
Aphex33 said:
I think I'm just going to buy a battery of ebay. I really appreciate your offer to send me your old battery, but its probably best I go new since I don't want this issue arising again. Thanks again for all your help.
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No problem! I was just thinking you could use my battery to confirm the problem before buying the new one, not to keep it for the long term, of course (that would be silly). But I am pretty sure it's the battery, anyway... Good luck!
I was wondering if the battery ever fixed the problem, I am having the same issue
really mad, I'm going on a business trip and this started happening. this week I updated the firmware to 293.
I didn't know you could replace the ZL battery.
After 2 years of use, my phone suddenly just died when I was playing a game. It won't boot without the charger ever since. I'm so sad because I expected this phone to last longer
Hi all,
I have been running my Z1 Compact on 4.4.4 for the longest time, mainly due to sound issues after updating to Lollipop.
Recently, the battery has been dropping randomly from 60 odd percent to 3 or 4 and then shutting down all within a few seconds. The last time it did this, I tried charging it when I got home but the charging light would not stay on, thus it was not charging. All typical signs of battery failure due to age.
Having already replaced the battery successfully on my Z1, I bought a replacement original Sony battery and replaced it. The problem persisted. On first boot, the phone got to the blue waves then black screen, and power off. Charging screen just showed the battery at about 40%.
I risked it and flashed the latest software with Flashtool, having done a complete wipe. The result of this proved no better, but I did get a different message on the charging screen, a message saying the phone had shut down due to overheating. Picture is attached.
The phone is in no way overheating and I've even booted it while sat on a shelf in the fridge to help dissipate any heat generated but with no luck.
So, the old battery maybe did overheat and caused the phone to shut down, I'll accept that as a probability. It may have even damaged something, but I don't think that's likely.
After changing the battery, I would have expected the problem to resolve itself, but it seems like some kind of hardware 'flag' has been raised that is now not allowing the phone to boot in case it overheats again.
Does anyone know of any way to resolve this, reset the 'flag' per se, other than going to Sony? The phone is definitely out of warranty due to its age, never mind me taking the back off lol
It is a shame because it has been a great phone over the years, and I would like to fix it if possible, even if to give it to one of the grandkids. I have my Z3 still (which I won't part with for anything) and I have an XZ too and both are great phones. I would just like to save the XZ1c if I can.
The phone is not, and has never been modified in any way, no rooting, no bootloader unlocking. Only stock roms have ever been flashed, and then only once or twice, to put it back on 4.4.4.
I have tried reflashing just the kernel, or just the system too, to no avail.
In desperation I even left it in the fridge for a few hours in case the temperature sensor was on the fritz, but that did nothing at all.
I just feel like there's nothing actually wrong with the phone, apart from this trigger that won't reset.
Any help greatly appreciated of course.
Thanks,
Mick
Maybe theres lot of consideration:
1. Rom Bugs
2. The Kernel not supported well
3. Battery Issues (But you already change it right)
There are two temperature sensors afaikin our phone. One in the SOC and another one in the battery (hence three pins).
The battery is probably the one giving the high temp report. Try yet another battery.
A bad battery normally heats up very fast inside and the battery temp sensor stops the battery from charging and/or working to protect the phone and the battery.
I changed my battery before when it had symptoms like yours 100-90-0 drop and after replacing with a battery from eBay it was OK. I gave it a full charge then complete discharge and then complete charge to full cycle the battery once and let the phone Guage its full capacity. one year later now my battery is acting funny again (not charging past 30%) and getting so hot when charging it triggers overheat control service in Android.
Any luck?
Apologies for the necro. But did you ever fix this issue, having the same problem
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Apologies for the necro. But did you ever fix this issue, having the same problem
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No, I never did figure it out. I've been loathe to spend more money on another battery when I've got other much newer phones. I really have no idea why it would not reset once the battery was replaced, maybe it's the replacement battery.
Have you tried changing the battery?
I've tried flashing different stock roms, Kit Kat, Lollipop, and it doesn't help.
Short of going to Sony, I'm not sure what else to do.
I don't know what happened, but my true friend is probably deadly ill and she's dying.
My Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 after almost 3.5 years of really hard work, 8h daily of SOT, hard CPU tasks, loading battery two times a day, started to do strange random reboots.
I was installing Blue Filter app, reading big pdf and sending this PDF from Xodo to Voice Aloud reader. Tablet was connected to charger from Moto X Style, which is turbo power charger. I saw first reboot, then other and next. Entered Cwn Twrp, cleaned cache but the problem still existed. Cleaned system, internal storage and tried to flash Iron ROM again. Strange, but tablet couldn't flash Iron ROM 3.2 gauge showed 100%, almost after beginning of installing ROM. I decided to flash 4 elements repair ROM with Odin, but it didn't help. Checked erase NAND, flashed correct pit file.
Strange, but while flashing with Odin, there were no reboots, so downloading mode is working properly. But after install, reboots returned, almost after running system first time.
Maybe it depends on ROM version? I flashed 4 files of 4.4.2 with Odin, while I was on 6.0.1 earlier?
But reboots started on proper ROM.
Also, maybe charger is responsible? Moto X Style 3A charger maybe damaged memory or motherboard of my friend?
Do you think that exchanging the battery may help? My battery when it was loading frequently showed a red cross, it can be that it's damaged, but random reboots never happened to me.
I don't want to buy new device, it's really stupid for me to spend hundreds of dollars every two, there years. I believe that a device should work 5 years or longer. Maybe corporations make devices especially to die after warranty period?
Can you help me to determine what is damaged?
It was my true friend, carrying tons of books with a thin device, reading big pdfs smoothly, making notes tons of paintings, editing photos and taking photos with my Nikon D610 via USB, listening to music with A.r.i.s.e , watching photography tutorials and movies, modern Combat 4 tons of hours, notes, showing portfolio to my clients... Yes I love my small friend, can you help me to rescue it?
You can see the behaviour here
Are the reboots happening even while plugged in or only after unplugging the charging cable?
Also is the percentage reading being sporadic meaning it changes every time it shuts off?
Replacing the battery is fairly cheap and easy on this model.
Here is a guide:
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Samsung+Galaxy+Tab+S+8.4+Battery+Replacement/51359
Where to buy a replacement battery:
https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Parts/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-S-8-4-Battery/IF252-014-1
If for some reason it still has the same issue after replacing battery then the battery connector needs to be looked at under microscope. It may have a loose connection to the board meaning it would need to be resoldered.
Dear Benjamen, thanks for your help. Tab reboots even if it's plugged to charger. The percentage is strange, one time it shows 40%, another time beeps and shows low power warning.
Sometimes it works 5 minutes without reboot, some times boots many times continuously.
Do you think it's battery? No EMMC error or some chip damaged on motherboard?
Download mode Odin worked good, also CWRP worked without reboots.
Maybe internal storage is damaged?
What do you think?
If it is battery I can surely exchange it like you wrote.
You can see the behaviour of tablet on YouTube I've posted above.
Have you tried to reinstall Twrp and a custom rom besides Iron Rom and doing a clean flash? Also I was thinking it might be a corrupted sd card try to remove the sd card and reboot see if that works I had a tablet once that was going bonkers cause the sd card was messed up , it might not be it but could always try it. Also make sure your on the proper boot loader for the rom you are trying to flash iron rom thread actually has a link to all the current boot loaders if i remember correctly. I do own this device and run a custom nougat rom no issues, just shooting out some ideas but you are right this is great device and should last a long time.
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Dear Benjamen, thanks for your help. Tab reboots even if it's plugged to charger. The percentage is strange, one time it shows 40%, another time beeps and shows low power warning.
Sometimes it works 5 minutes without reboot, some times boots many times continuously.
Do you think it's battery? No EMMC error or some chip damaged on motherboard?
Download mode Odin worked good, also CWRP worked without reboots.
Maybe internal storage is damaged?
What do you think?
If it is battery I can surely exchange it like you wrote.
You can see the behaviour of tablet on YouTube I've posted above.
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Sounds like battery connector has loose soldering. Take it to a reputable repair shop that does soldering and tell them to check the battery connector and see if it needs resoldering. That's how I ended up fixing it with the same symptoms that you had.
Edit: Forgot to tell you but I cant play the YouTube video, maybe the embedded video link is invalid so can you send me the youtube link?
Mine has been doing the exact same thing for a couple of days now.
I'm running LineageOS 14.1.
Random reboots both with the charger connected and disconnected, Battery percentage is around 45% most of the time, but jumps to 0% or 100%.
I've already replaced the battery with a "new" one (about 12 months old, according to the label), but to no avail.
Any ideas? I really like this device and would not want to buy a replacement...
brot2
My SM-T800 started doing something strange like this yesterday. As I was watching Youtube and reading a news site in split screen mode, the screen suddenly went blank (it didn't shut down, but went blank at once). Before this happened, I saw a warning that my battery charge was below 15%. After powering on the tablet, my charge was 28%. I opened youtube and a web browser again, and the screen went blank within a minute. After powering on, I decided that I will not be using split screen mode again, but the screen eventually went blank. I monitored the CPU temperature and it didn't seem like it was running too warm (50ish C). I will try re-calibrating the battery (if that's even possible) and even replacing one, but if that doesn't help I guess it's time to move on to something new. Sadly, four years after the T800, nobody made a worthy replacement (the leaked Tab S4 specs look good, but they want to charge laptop prices for that).
PS: It's running the stock rooted (later unrooted) MM 6.0.1 from November 2016 with TWRP.
I re-calibrated battery and the tablet seems to be working fine so far.
https://www.androidpit.com/how-to-calibrate-the-battery-on-your-android-device
Okay first of all very big thank you for your replies
my Galaxy Tab S 1 except strange reboots is also overheating when it has some tasks to do measured temperature on CPU cores is getting around 80 degrees Celsius and is going up and then tablet gets restart so I don't know if it is only the problem with battery maybe it's connected with CPU problems or other electrical problems on MotherBoard.
It's worth to mention, that I've charged the tab with charger from Moto X Style, that is Turbo Charger, with 3A, and the Tab S1 can load with 2A only.
https://youtu.be/APgivhY31ws
Here's the link to movie with Tab behaviour again, can you see it now?
Astania said:
Okay first of all very big thank you for your replies
my Galaxy Tab S 1 except strange reboots is also overheating when it has some tasks to do measured temperature on CPU cores is getting around 80 degrees Celsius and is going up and then tablet gets restart so I don't know if it is only the problem with battery maybe it's connected with CPU problems or other electrical problems on MotherBoard.
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My tablet used to have a damaged main-board that used to overheat. However, the screen did not go blank when that happened. I actually got some kind of message that said that the tablet is overheating. This was fixed after I replaced the mainboard. You can certainly try it, but these things were not cheap when I did it.
Mine also started doing this last month now it wont power on but resets till the battery is dead.
Did you get it fixed?
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My tablet used to have a damaged main-board that used to overheat. However, the screen did not go blank when that happened. I actually got some kind of message that said that the tablet is overheating. This was fixed after I replaced the mainboard. You can certainly try it, but these things were not cheap when I did it.
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I'm seeing random shutdowns with no warning popup on heat but the screen area where the motherboard is sure gets hot. I replaced the battery and same result. I looked at the battery connector and looks OK, seems tight but I didn't check with a magnifying glass. Where did you source your motherboard?
Also how has everyone elese resolved this? I see people citing the problem on this old thread but I'm curioius if you found a resolution.