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Cant they track it?
You could sell it, but that's kinda morally objectionable.
Plus it will be flagged as having a bad ESN, so it won't be able to be activated on Sprint.
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You could sell it, but that's kinda morally objectionable.
Plus it will be flagged as having a bad ESN, so it won't be able to be activated on Sprint.
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Yea But cant you still use it??
the point is you can do what you want but sprint is not going to let it be put on a line.The ESN has been blacklisted so if you want to use it as a music player or whatever you want that does not use phone service or data then yes but as a phone No.
I will buy it for forty dollars!
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Once you lose a phone, Sprint places it on a lost/stolen list. If you sell it, the purchaser will not be able to activate it.
Sell on ebay and state has bad esn
I think if you only went through asurion the phone might still work. I had a phone that was lost and I did it through the website and i gave the phone to someone else when i found it and they told me that it activated. So maybe have a friend try and see if it works.
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Ill Buy it for $50 dollars, no questions ask!! I want to start into development roms, and ill be good for me!!!
Why even ask a question like that? Once you accepted the condition to file the claim then the phone belongs to the insurance company. The only sense to this question is that you want to know if you will be in any kind trouble.
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i thought the same thing too when i lost my phone in the movie theatre after it fell out of my pocket. I filed a claim and got the replacment then i was able to find my lost phone shortly after. i checked the ESN and it was still clean. i was surprised but now i have two evos. You can always call them and check if its still a valid esn.
Because I don't want to cause anyone any undo trouble. I would like to get my deductible back so I will say bad esn on eBay for $100 as another forum member sugested. Thank you for all input into this discussion.
Why even ask a question like that? Once you accepted the condition to file the claim then the phone belongs to the insurance company. The only sense to this question is that you want to know if you will be in any kind trouble.
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You certainly can activate it still.
I lost my TP2 and got a new one thru insurance and then Sprint called me and told me someone turned in my lost tp2.
I reactivated my original the second I got home. I sold the new TP2. I called Sprint and they told me I was supposed to send the lost one to the insurance but it was up to me. They didn't really care.
Moral wrong..yes... doable .. yes.
if you call ausrion and get a replacement phone they send you another one out but by law or sprint policy (not sure which its to early for me to google it a few sprint employees have told me though) they cant contact sprint and flag it as bad ESN your suppose to do that yourself. So you can activate the old one if you like with 0 issues. Been their and have done it. (on accident found the missing phone like a week or 2 later) sold it to a friend and he is still using it.
There are methods to make a phone work on another carrier if it has a bad ESN on Sprint. Cricket and Metro PCS are the carriers that are most commonly used in the US. I actually bought an Evo on Craigslist a while back for a good price. It wasn't listed as lost/stolen, but it was still tied to a suspended Sprint account. I later sold it on eBay for $360 and listed it with a bad ESN and a bad headphone jack. I think the guy I sold it to was planning on using it in Mexico.
Even without activation, an Evo makes a pretty nice MID on Wifi. Just be warned that most Android devices won't connect to an ad-hoc Wifi network, so it's hard to tether it to another phone.
You could sell it for more than $100. Can't you hack it to work with VZW PRL? Maybe that'll sell for more.
Technically you could sell it to someone on metro pcs or cricket.. they dont care about esn's being blacklisted they'll activate it anyway.
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Why even ask a question like that? Once you accepted the condition to file the claim then the phone belongs to the insurance company. The only sense to this question is that you want to know if you will be in any kind trouble.
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Oh God the moral police is here. Its a very valid question. I would do the same damn thing this Guy is doing. Just think of it as a way to recover that 10 dollars extra a month we are ALL getting hosed for every month.
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The "moral" thing to do is call the insurance company, explain that you found your old phone and you would like to return the phone and get your deductible returned as well.
I would think they would go for it as they make out in the end.
And you can sleep at night knowing they won't catch on to you some day and deactivate your phone. (highly doubt that could ever happen, but I tend to have a really guilty conscience. what's a $100 anyway.....)
well my sister wants a dinc 2 but she does not want to pay for data package she likes phone but wants to use it as a ipod touch type thing. she has env3. could she buy the dinc 2 then use it as smart phone for 1 month and pay for data package then switch back to her env3 the next and keep the dinc as ipod thouch and not pay for the data anymore?
thanks for any help from anyone
I don't see why that wouldn't work. However, it might be better for her to try and find a used one on ebay because it'll save her from using up her upgrade. That's just in the event she ever wants to in the future. You may be able to find one with a bad esn for fairly cheap.
Theoretically it should be possible. Keep in mind that she will be stuck for 20 months without an upgrade option if you do this through an upgrade. If just buying retail (paying full price or whatever), then you could buy it anywhere and not even juggle activations.
I tried this, but you have to pay to terminate the smart package I think, if not, shed have to pay full retail.
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sounds like she would end up having to pay an ETF for the data plan, so that's probably not a great idea. better to take the suggestion of finding one on ebay with a bad eSN.
If you can find one with a bad esn, it will easily be under $100. That is definitely the way to go.
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If you can find one with a bad esn, it will easily be under $100. That is definitely the way to go.
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Where you find that? When I wanted the tb I saw the for 350 with bad esns
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You won't have to pay an etf if your sister cancels her data plan. I've done it before and I can assure you that. The only problem she will run into is if she wants to upgrade prior to when she's eligible. You can search ebay but you will probably have a hard time finding one with a bad esn because it's such a new phone. Good lock tho.
I can also say that she can do that without paying an ETF at all. I have done this previously as well and am 100% sure. Since you are only doing a hardware swap, you are technically not breaking your contract at all.
Yes she can definitely do this and not have to pay any fees. Since the data package is just a feature it can be removed or added at any time and not affect the contract length or the etf. The etf only is applied if your leaving the contract.
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Data package is a feature and is not tied to your plan, your sister can drop it the same day she gets the phone if she wants it, as long as she swap it in the account back to the env3.
ok so i bought an evo from a coworker whos letting his account go past due and hit his credit cause he cant pay anymore but i called and asked sprint if i can esn swap anyways and the man said no. does anyone work for sprint and know a loop hole here? i know the guy personally but he can't pay his charges. what can i do?
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ok so i bought an evo from a coworker whos letting his account go past due and hit his credit cause he cant pay anymore but i called and asked sprint if i can esn swap anyways and the man said no. does anyone work for sprint and know a loop hole here? i know the guy personally but he can't pay his charges. what can i do?
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No loop hole. That ESN is locked until the delinquent account is paid.
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can he call and switch his esn? without having to pay his whole balance?
Call in from a land line, I thinks its 800sprint1. Tell um you bought it off ebay and cant get your money back, cause your old phone broke they should let it slide. Make sure they dont know it was your friend. If the say no tell um they to help you with this cause you wont have anyway to use your phone. Worst case threaten to switch to verizon.
I used to work for sprint years ago its sad they seem to always forget that without our business they would be no where. Good luck!
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Call in from a land line, I thinks its 800sprint1. Tell um you bought it off ebay and cant get your money back, cause your old phone broke they should let it slide. Make sure they dont know it was your friend. If the say no tell um they to help you with this cause you wont have anyway to use your phone. Worst case threaten to switch to verizon.
I used to work for sprint years ago its sad they seem to always forget that without our business they would be no where. Good luck!
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That's not gonna work, ESN is locked to the delinquent account and the button to remove it is blanked out. Only a payment will allow you to go in and remove the ESN. Sad that people still think threatening to cancel will allow retention's to waive a magic wand and fix everything. You'll just get transferred to a supervisor to be told no again.
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I used to work for sprint years ago its sad they seem to always forget that without our business they would be no where. Good luck!
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I'm sorry, you think its sad that Sprint locks esns for phones on delinquent accounts(like every other carrier out there)?
Can you imagine the abuse? Just go start a bunch of new accounts, buy phones and then let them go delinquent and sell the phones...how about not.
Whining and threatening you're going to switch isn't going to change an industry wide policy.
Correct. Industry wide. Verizon's policy as well. Pay the bill for him or something if you want it that bad.
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That's not gonna work, ESN is locked to the delinquent account and the button to remove it is blanked out. Only a payment will allow you to go in and remove the ESN. Sad that people still think threatening to cancel will allow retention's to waive a magic wand and fix everything. You'll just get transferred to a supervisor to be told no again.
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Exactly, the ONLY way to unblock a bad esn is for you to pay the remainder on his account, or he pays it. No other way.
well, there is that ONE other way...
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well, there is that ONE other way...
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Sounds dangerous... =]
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Sounds dangerous... =]
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And illegal.
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ok so i bought an evo from a coworker whos letting his account go past due and hit his credit cause he cant pay anymore but i called and asked sprint if i can esn swap anyways and the man said no. does anyone work for sprint and know a loop hole here? i know the guy personally but he can't pay his charges. what can i do?
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You say that he is "letting his account go past due," does this mean that his phone is still active?
If his phone is still active, and not yet past due to the point that his account is shut off, then do an ESN swap before his account is shut off...then when it is shut off, the other phone will be blacklisted and not the EVO.
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As others said, there is another way. If you don't know what it is, we won't tell you.
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He's past due 160 and temporarily disconnected until its paid off. So I guess there's no way around it. I wish someone would say what the "other way" is. I thought there was a way to reprogram the number yourself through ##menus. Or is that old school?
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He's past due 160 and temporarily disconnected until its paid off. So I guess there's no way around it. I wish someone would say what the "other way" is. I thought there was a way to reprogram the number yourself through ##menus. Or is that old school?
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Past due $160 or 160 days? If it is just past due $160, and its a short amount of time, maybe a small or partial payment will get the phone turned back on?
What you are speaking of with the ## menus is only a part of the "other" way.
Basically, the ## is how you manually program your phone. To manually program your phone, you need the MSL (Master Subsidy Lock)...Sprint usually calls it "a six-digit code". Lets suppose that yours is 000000 (trust me it really isn't), then you will program it with ##000000#, you can manually program data with ##DATA# (you again will need your MSL.)
That portion, we can tell you on this forum. This information will not help the situation, as your ESN is blacklisted. If and when you get Sprint to lift the blacklist on the ESN, you can manually program the phone if you desire with those ## codes. (there is no real point, unless it does not correctly provision itself.)
This forum, and many others have a prohibition on instruction people how to perform ESN Cloning. Some try to whitewash it by calling it an ESN Repair, which in most cases does not make sense. I have never seen a phone that truly needed and ESN to be repaired. Out of curiosity, have any of you phone techs out there actually seen an ESN that really needed a true repair? (By true repair, I mean, NOT to get it to work on another network?)
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He's past due 160 and temporarily disconnected until its paid off. So I guess there's no way around it. I wish someone would say what the "other way" is. I thought there was a way to reprogram the number yourself through ##menus. Or is that old school?
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The other way is to go buy a phone with a clean esn.
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He could call in and swap esn to an older phone. He could say "i would like to swap esn to an older phone cause EVO is broken and i dont want the $10 add on to keep adding up." He could also put his line on seasonal suspend which will look like he's trying to at least reduce his monthly bill to hopefully pay it off. He should do that anyway. It's only $8.99/mo (or somewhere in that range, can't remember exactly).
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He could call in and swap esn to an older phone. He could say "i would like to swap esn to an older phone cause EVO is broken and i dont want the $10 add on to keep adding up." He could also put his line on seasonal suspend which will look like he's trying to at least reduce his monthly bill to hopefully pay it off. He should do that anyway. It's only $8.99/mo (or somewhere in that range, can't remember exactly).
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Both of your scenarios wont work. The first wont work, because THAT evo's esn is still blacklisted until the bill is paid, it doesnt matter what phone you switch your line to. And your second, same thing, even if he puts it on suspend, when he renews it, it's still blacklisted.
I agree... ESN Swapping can be risky. and once it get blacklisted thats it to my knowledge.
A lot has changed since I last worked at Sprint. Maybe that's why our site was #1 in fraud. I just did what o was told and I know i swapped a phone on an overdue account. Guess that's why I don't work their anymore. LOL.
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Worst case threaten to switch to verizon.
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+1 Ahaha I've used this line before lol its like the word Verizon to Sprint is a swear word or something lol
Edit... I did it to get an extension to pay a bill not switch esns though
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Hello all, just wanted to start out saying this forum ROCKS! And wanted to say thank you to all the Devs and contributors for your time invested in creating a venue that we can all learn from.
Now to my dilemma. I''ve fallen on hard times (as I am sure many have due to this economy) and need a little help here. Had to let my 2 year plan drop due to financial issues, (They got a year out of me @ $130.00 a month) don't see it improving anytime soon, so I had to get a prepaid sim (on the same provider network, as I want to be able to keep using them but on a prepaid basis), the sim was activated (through an old razor I had with a good IMEI no.)
I paid for my phone ($200.00) through the plan, sim is now deactive. Looking to see if I can put my new prepaid sim in the plan phone but have not done so as I am sure it will get hit in a few days due to ID no. I am aware of the issues with respect to the ID no. Need a workaround for this to use my new prepaid sim on the phone I purchased through the plan. I am probably nerfed. Maybe I can use odin for the issues if possible?
Any help I can get (privately) just email me in here would be greatly appreciated.
If you paid for your phone, there should be no problem with it, if you still owe on your old account, then there would be a problem.
Doesn't make sense, the phone is his, he's not on a subsidize phone payment. The phone is his to keep. If anything he woruld talk to the retention department. Do an etf but maybe he can plea for it to be lowered? I'm not sure if they'll give you any discounts but it doesn't hurt to ask from this department. In the end you should pay for the etf. Do monthly payments of it or something. It's better than avoiding it.
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Doesn't make sense, the phone is his, he's not on a subsidize phone payment. The phone is his to keep. If anything he woruld talk to the retention department. Do an etf but maybe he can plea for it to be lowered? I'm not sure if they'll give you any discounts but it doesn't hurt to ask from this department. In the end you should pay for the etf. Do monthly payments of it or something. It's better than avoiding it.
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Let me see if i understand this correctly, and provide some details. I got the phone at a reduced price through a promotion. The promotion stated get the phone for X dollars if you sign up for a two year contract. Since I paid the x dollars the phone is now mine, I own it correct? Now.....since I can't continue with the contract I have to pay an etf, if I don't (Or better said if I can't afford it) Then they nerf my phone from being used on their network? How wrong is that! I paid for the phone so if I put in a new sim it should be allowed to be used on their network because I am basically still paying for service, difference is its pre-paid. They shouldn't have a right to nerf an IMEI of a pesons paid for phone based on not being able to live up to the contract, as the contract is one thing, and the phone, (since it was paid for),is separate being that it's your property. IMEI's are supposed to be nerfed if a customer reports it stolen or lost. NOT as a means for a service provider to track your phone to the extent of since you could not live up to the contract, completely nerf your phone from their network. The way I see it, I paid for the phone, and since I am paying for the usage of the prepaid I should have the right to use that prepaid sim on my paid for phone. This looks like a class action suit here if you ask me. What say you?
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Ya they will try to block I'm pretty sure. You paid only a portion of the device. They technically still own it. Its like a lease for a car. If you don't pay the etf its still their phone
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This isn't Sprint. I got my T-989 from T-Mo in May with a 2 year contract. I paid $100 for the phone. For a undisclosed reason, my contract was terminated and I kept the phone. In July I bought a Sim from Simple Mobile, popped it in and still to this day, it works great.
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Ya they will try to block I'm pretty sure. You paid only a portion of the device. They technically still own it. Its like a lease for a car. If you don't pay the etf its still their phone
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I disagree. when you lease a car the contract states you are leasing the car. When you take out a loan on a car, the car is owned by the bank that holds that loan until you pay the loan back. When you buy the phone you are buying the phone with your own money so no bank can take it from you nor should a service provider block you from using it. Because you own the rights to that phone, you purchased it.
I paid the full price they were offering the phone for, IF I signed up for a Service Contract, key words here. I signed up for a contract for service NOT for a contract for the phone I had to buy a phone that works on their network. So basically what happens here is that you get the phone at a price. From the moment you pay for that phone it's yours. Why? Because it was contingent on you signing up for their service. From the moment you sign up for that service you fulfilled the part needed to get the phone at a said price. It does not say "lease" this phone if you sign up" It says buy this phone.
After that if you can't pay for the service you don't get that service and yes you are liable for an etf of the service not the phone, it's yours, you own it, you did not lease it nor does the the service agreement state that you leased the phone. You fulfilled the obligation to sign up, you paid for the phone. It's your property.
Key words here are service contract
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This isn't Sprint. I got my T-989 from T-Mo in May with a 2 year contract. I paid $100 for the phone. For a undisclosed reason, my contract was terminated and I kept the phone. In July I bought a Sim from Simple Mobile, popped it in and still to this day, it works great.
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At this point I'm not sure if the IMEI of my phone was nerfed or if the sim was nerfed. And I'm afraid of putting in my new prepaid sim in it and run the risk that the prepaid sim gets nerfed if my IMEI is still o.k.,
1)Did you have to pay an etf though to keep using a phone you already paid for? and 2)That sim is a prepaid sim right?, and simple mobile is part of t-mo so I wonder if I use my prepaid tmo sim if they will nerf my sim (Though I don't think they would have a right to as I am paying for a different service on my own phone). But I would hate to find out that they would do that the hard way and end up having to buy another sim. I need my money.
I didn't have to pay anything. I paid the $100 for the phone when I signed the contract. When it was terminated, I didn't pay anything else.
Yeah, it's a prepaid Sim and Simple uses T-Mo's network.
They don't do that, what if you buy a Tmo phone from ebay and that persons contract was terminated, the phone woukd still work correct? Sprint doesnt that to the phons ESN number, but Tmo is a GSM network using Sim cards.
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I didn't have to pay anything. I paid the $100 for the phone when I signed the contract. When it was terminated, I didn't pay anything else.
Yeah, it's a prepaid Sim and Simple uses T-Mo's network.
They don't do that, what if you buy a Tmo phone from ebay and that persons contract was terminated, the phone woukd still work correct? Sprint doesnt that to the phons ESN number, but Tmo is a GSM network using Sim cards.
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So I could use a tmo prepaid sim in my phone with no worries then correct? They wont zap the new sim or IMEI?
My phone is not rooted (yet need to read up in here first) it's stock and locked to tmo, not unlocked.
Yes what If you had a contract SIM and a prepaid one and used both, or if you traveled and had another SIM, they aren't going to flag your phone.
You'll be fine.
& My phone is locked.
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Check out this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781304
http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s3/587282-blocked-imei-tmobile-s3-problem.html
Those are for stolen phones. They were bought from someone else, not from Tmo. That could only happen to him if he bought the phone from someone or if he reported it stolen since hes the owner.
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Those are for stolen phones. They were bought from someone else, not from Tmo. That could only happen to him if he bought the phone from someone or if he reported it stolen since hes the owner.
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No, one of the posts mentions if the payments weren't made
Well idk it all depends. If there was only one payment for the phone then its okay.
Anyway what's done is done. They won't block the prepaid Sim if he uses it in his phone. The worse that can happen is that they block the phone, but not the Sim.
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This isn't Sprint. I got my T-989 from T-Mo in May with a 2 year contract. I paid $100 for the phone. For a undisclosed reason, my contract was terminated and I kept the phone. In July I bought a Sim from Simple Mobile, popped it in and still to this day, it works great.
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Nobody said it was sprint dude.
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Well idk it all depends. If there was only one payment for the phone then its okay.
Anyway what's done is done. They won't block the prepaid Sim if he uses it in his phone. The worse that can happen is that they block the phone, but not the Sim.
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I just went through all ten pages of the first link and the page of the other link, the other link mentioned that they block the phone to force payment. (Something I can't do due to financial difficulty) Now the issue with that is that if they do that, then they are in essence doing something illegal because the phone was not reported stolen by me or lost and I didn't place an insurance claim. So that being the case, they are messing with MY property, as I paid for that phone. I have the receipt. If they block my phone then that is basically a company using unscrupulous pratices to peoples property in order to force payment and is like strong arm tactics much like the mob asking for protection money for christ sakes! How can we put an end to these companies doing this? It's not right. What other recourse would a righful owner have other than to change the IMEI number then?
First of all, they will not be able to block your prepaid SIM with your phone. That's impossible as it is prepaid. They aren't going to block any sims based on the imei. If anything they will block your account or blacklist your phone. First of all you already paid for your phone. The matter is that you have 1 year remaining on contract for the service not the phone itself. I forget but i remember a csr for T-Mobile, a fellow xda member, said they should not blacklist your phone. There were other cases where it is blacklisted because the phone was being paid off monthly. The subsidized monthly payment for the phone. A few have claimed that they have been blocked because of that. However that rep did say they do not black list the phone for that, only if it is reported stolen or lost.
Do yourself a favor and test another SIM on your phone. If it works you're good to go. It would not be shot down again. If it doesn't work you're blacklisted. Get it unlocked and trade with someone who uses att
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First of all, they will not be able to block your prepaid SIM with your phone. That's impossible as it is prepaid. They aren't going to block any sims based on the imei. If anything they will block your account or blacklist your phone. First of all you already paid for your phone. The matter is that you have 1 year remaining on contract for the service not the phone itself. I forget but i remember a csr for T-Mobile, a fellow xda member, said they should not blacklist your phone. There were other cases where it is blacklisted because the phone was being paid off monthly. The subsidized monthly payment for the phone. A few have claimed that they have been blocked because of that. However that rep did say they do not black list the phone for that, only if it is reported stolen or lost.
Do yourself a favor and test another SIM on your phone. If it works you're good to go. It would not be shot down again. If it doesn't work you're blacklisted. Get it unlocked and trade with someone who uses att
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So far so good. It's working. Thanks!
My only fear is that they hit my phone later because of using a different Sim on the phone. But I am going to trust in your info and cross my fingers and hope for the best.
When I got this phone, I purchased it in a T-Mo store, the receipt shows two Items. 1) A security deposit of $100.00 (cause my credit sucked and 2) states the name of the phone, followed by the serial number, followed by something that says post payed Activation with two years after that, followed by Not discount eligible, followed by the sale amount (the price I paid for the phone and the $100.00 Security deposit combined, followed by the total and then it shows cash with a minus sign to the left of the amount paid. So Based on that I figure it safe to say it's not subsidized, correct?
Don't worry about it. There is no way that T-Mobile is going to look up the imei number for your old account and zap that SIM too. They have better things to do than assign someone to do that. If anything that will cause problems because if you sold the phone to someone else and they zap their SIM, they're going to get an ear full. And in most cases. The lower tier csr does not have access to imei searches.
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Okay so I went on ebay and craigslist looking for a Note 4 to purchase. I am going to use it as my work phone so I don't really care about the cosmetic condition.
Well I've found some but none in my price range until I found some with a bad esn. I looked online and found a website where you can have it fixed MOD EDIT as long as their is no past due balance.
Is this possible? Anyone know of a legit website?
Probably won't get much help here as most of the time messing with esn is done for illegal reason. Which is why xda doesn't usually mess with it. If you buying a phobe with a bad esn it's either been reported stolen, or they claimed they lost it to insurance. so insurance flags it. Buying either one of these types of phone is technically illegal receiving stolen property or insurance fraud. Good luck
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Major Mobile companys will not activate a phone with a BAD ESN specifically Verizon. Any one who tells u different is a liar or has just gotten extremely lucky. If your looking for a Note 4 to use with Verizon don't buy one with a bad esn. That's the best advice your gonna get. Anything else and your rolling the dice. How many professional craps players do you know?
The reason the ones with the bad esn are in your price range is because they useless 2ne1 who wants to use it as its intended.
Sorry but you are out of luck on XDA as changing ESN or phone identifiers is illegal in the U.S., so discussion is not allowed.
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