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[Q] Will sprint notice a rooted stock phone?

My usb port is broken. I want to take it to sprint, they say it would be 30 dollars to fix which I think is a steal, but i am running cm9. If I flash it to stock but leave it rooted with cwm will they even know that it's rooted?

richyrocket said:
My usb port is broken. I want to take it to sprint, they say it would be 30 dollars to fix which I think is a steal, but i am running cm9. If I flash it to stock but leave it rooted with cwm will they even know that it's rooted?
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Eh, not likely. In my travels, I've visited 5 Sprint stores for random service. Only one tech even knew what the latest version on our phone was.

I just talked to someone about it, and they claim that so long as superuser and all other root apps are gone, they likely wont even notice.

Look for the FC09 stock deodexed ROM in development. You can put that MTD ROM on and flash the stock boot ani and delete superuser. Should also be a link to reflash stock recovery.
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richyrocket said:
I just talked to someone about it, and they claim that so long as superuser and all other root apps are gone, they likely wont even notice.
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was just about to say this. remove tb, superuser and any other apps that require root. then install an app like smartlocker and lock all file explorers and pictures and stuff.

tazfanatic said:
was just about to say this. remove tb, superuser and any other apps that require root. then install an app like smartlocker and lock all file explorers and pictures and stuff.
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Good call on locking the file explorers. The other thing you could do is just install another launcher and hide the apps in question (SU, TB, etc) instead of actually uninstalling them if you wanted to go that route.

unrooted, on stock.. can't check for updates

Hi everyone, I unrooted my note 8 using the toolkit and i never modified the stock firmware in any way, but it's still not letting me check for updates on the device because it detects it as modified..
I confirmed the unroot doesnt work since titanium backup wont open
what else can i try?

Triangle away, have you tried using that?
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It does not support the note 8 so I haven't
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theraker007 said:
I confirmed the unroot doesnt work since titanium backup wont open
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You mean "the unroot did work", and you are not presently rooted, right?
Did you simply try rebooting? I was confused about the update not working, then realized I simply needed to reboot, then the update worked fine.
If any bloat apps were even frozen in Titanium, you need to unfreeze them. I know you said you didn't modify the firmware. But you might have missed this, or didn't consider it "modifying the firmware".

Did you install busybox? It's possible that Samsung's looking for things other than the SU binary and busybox is one of the things a lot of folks install immediately after SU.

All those things are accounted for. The device status still says custom though. Weird..
Oh well
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theraker007 said:
All those things are accounted for. The device status still says custom though. Weird..
Oh well
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Did you remove or freeze any apps while rooted? If so then did you make sure to restore them before you unrooted and tried to update?

Use the PCsoftware "kies" of samsung , that will let you update / upgrade even if you are rooted.
It shows the latest firmware and your firmware so you know if you need to update or not.
You will lose root if you decide to flash firmware.

It may sound ridiculous, don't really understand why, but I had the same problem and googled it (don't remember where i found it) the solution for me was as simple as removing my SD card and rebooting, then the update option magically was available again.

[Q] Rooting Note 2 ... Yes or No ?

Hello
I am using note 2 and would like to understand if its worth rooting the device or not? I have not rooted any device in the past. Are there any features that i will loose after rooting?
if yes please suggest which ROM.
Thanks

hellobye80 said:
Hello
I am using note 2 and would like to understand if its worth rooting the device or not? I have not rooted any device in the past. Are there any features that i will loose after rooting?
if yes please suggest which ROM.
Thanks
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You.!!! ! Kidding me ???!! Why not root + without root u can not flash any custom rom ...sir
So which phone u were using previously ? Iphone or nokia 3310 lolz. Any ways look for Android Revolution HD 19 or wanam Lite v2.9 both are based on latest stock samsung roms for good start.
Cheers
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Lets start at the beginning - rooting your device means you have "Administrator" rights on it and gives you the ability to do stuff you aren't supposed to do without root. The most basic example is - block most of the ads you see when browsing the web with your favorite browser and when using your apps.
It also gives you the ability to flash custom ROMs (which are new "Operating Systems" that have been modified for the better by other XDA members), install more root apps that let you do incredible things, and lets you change your DPI (making all the stuff on your phone smaller, thus giving you more things to see on your phone at any given time!).
In short, there are countless of possibilities. I'd recommend sticking with the Samsung based ROMs for a start as they will be more familiar. Specifically, I would recommend starting with Phoenix ROM (found here). It might be a big ROM (weighing 1.5GBs to download), but contains most of the features you'd ever need. I started with it and no matter which other ROM I try I just can't find anything better.
Please note, however, that you're better off reading about how to root, flash new recoveries and ROMs, what's EFS and how to backup it, and understanding what you're about to do before starting. Everything can be found on these forums
Good luck

The only thing you'd be losing is your warranty.
10/10 would recommend rooting.

Can we rollback to Samsung provided OS incase have to claim warranty due to some issue?
What are the chances of bricking the phone?
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Yes you can, you can roll back to non-rooted original ROM. Not sure if it applies to all ROMs but some methods of rooting increase flash count which can be seen by technicians thus voiding your warranty. but there are ways to remove it/set back to 0. Just do what Freezeil said and read through the Dev section and see what can be done and the outcomes of actions taken. Personally I've only got Root on my N2 as all I wanted was to install several apps that require root(Titanium Back Up, Root Explorer, Lucky Patcher, etc.) and I'll be sticking to original ROMs on it, i.e. no custom ROMs. but it'll all depend on what you want. On my N1 I'm running different ROMs depending on my mood and I like experimenting with it. But always make sure you make a back up of your ROM and EFS file which contains your IMEI coz if it goes while flashing, it's a ***** to get back on your own.

If you do root check out the xposed framework and its apps. There is just about every customisation possible, its worth rooting for that alone
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hicough said:
The only thing you'd be losing is your warranty.
10/10 would recommend rooting.
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rooting does not void warranty as now contributors and dev here has done great job as even after root the binary status remain unchanged so the only thing u need to do is just a click to unroot and if anything goes wrong still samsung wont be able to make out it was rooted you can check pre rooted odex rom here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2230250 its normal samsung stuff with root priveledge u even have mods now to root it one click ,the only thing which voids warranty is custom recovery which can be reverted as already mentioned.
hellobye80 said:
Can we rollback to Samsung provided OS incase have to claim warranty due to some issue?
What are the chances of bricking the phone?
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suggest u to download the odex rooted latest rom linked above and as those are samsung firmware default ,only if u want the latest firmware orelse just go rooting ,if u like custom then get your recovery to philz or twrp
note:backup your efs atleast 2 to 3 times just to be safe and keep it on pc or online storage

I like samsung rom which is pre-installed and would love if i can only get root access to this. So i should look for a way to get root access to this version itself. Can i achieve that? Any link that i can follow?
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Galaxy toolkit is a simple tool to enable you to root your phone.
The main thing you will lose if you root is sky go if you use it. New eu law States you shouldn't lose your warranty either.
But you need to ask your self is it right for you to root your phone?
If you want increased volume, better anti theft protection, fewer ads, firewall, sd card memory swap, ability to Flash different roms, kernels etc etc etc.
The best rom I've found by a country mile is Jedi 17 rom.
Good luck and post back your findings
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hellobye80 said:
I like samsung rom which is pre-installed and would love if i can only get root access to this. So i should look for a way to get root access to this version itself. Can i achieve that? Any link that i can follow?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2445480 here u go

Finally rooted my note 2 with stock rom today.
Will i get an update when Samsung push 4.3?
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hellobye80 said:
Will i get an update when Samsung push 4.3?
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The day you are going to get a 4.3 update from Samsung is light years away. Let's conclude, it's too early to worry about it.:highfive:

@hellobye80
To get OTA just use Multitool mentioned in a link just above your post by @shhbz
select clean option
then open SuperSU app - setting -Full unroot.
After this you should get OTA, in case you didn't get try factory reset.
Still issue, you can get 4.3 (OR ant ROM) by flashing with Odin.

Thanks All.
Is there any app that i can use to restrict some permissions that are allowed to some applications like "Facebook" app that has access to "call phone number directly" .
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Use xPrivacy xposed module.
First search xposed framework then you can get xPrivacy from that framework application itself.
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I am all set. Thanks everyone for all the inputs.
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dr.ketan said:
@hellobye80
To get OTA just use Multitool mentioned in a link just above your post by @shhbz
select clean option
then open SuperSU app - setting -Full unroot.
After this you should get OTA, in case you didn't get try factory reset.
Still issue, you can get 4.3 (OR ant ROM) by flashing with Odin.
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I was reading a few articles and found something about flash counters. Do i have to worry about resetting the flash counters and if yes how can i do that? i am on stock rom with root access. i have followed this "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896696" to root my phone using "1.Root with Stock Recovery - CF auto Root from Chainfire"

hellobye80 said:
I was reading a few articles and found something about flash counters. Do i have to worry about resetting the flash counters and if yes how can i do that? i am on stock rom with root access. i have followed this "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896696" to root my phone using "1.Root with Stock Recovery - CF auto Root from Chainfire"
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@dr.ketan I used Triangle Away to reset my counter ... now my last worry is to be able to get 4.3 that is expected to be released by end of this month... what is the process to get a OTA and also have Root access with Stock OS. please suggest

Upgrade to 4.3 with root
Hello
JB 4.3 for N7100 is now released for Note 2 in India.
I am currently using n7100 with stock 4.1.2 which was rooted using Method 1 as mentioned in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896696" (Thanks to @dr.ketan for step-by-step guide). using this method I was also able to reset the flash counter to 0.
Now i want to have Stock 4.3 on my device and have root access again. is there a similar guide available that i can follow to achieve this?
I also read about Samsung KNOX and its added to the 4.3 but not sure if i understand that correctly. is there any issues with rooting a phone with 4.3?
Please Suggest
Thanks

Full backup on non-rooted phones

Hey folks,
Is there an app similar to Titanium Backup for phones that are non-rooted? I recently had to revert back to stock in order to get my work e-mail and calendar. I'm looking for something that will create a big backup in which I could easily restore all my apps, settings, and layouts like Titanium Backup does.
Thanks!

Not that I am aware of. You need to be rooted.
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eddylee09 said:
Hey folks,
Is there an app similar to Titanium Backup for phones that are non-rooted? I recently had to revert back to stock in order to get my work e-mail and calendar. I'm looking for something that will create a big backup in which I could easily restore all my apps, settings, and layouts like Titanium Backup does.
Thanks!
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Your Google-Fu is weak, young grasshopper. Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351

DJ_SpaRky said:
Your Google-Fu is weak, young grasshopper. Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
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Forgot about that. However, as that guide states, it's assumed that the user already has the latest Android SDK installed. If someone has not rooted, or is not trying to root, chances are they won't have it. And even if they do, imo it still a simpler process to root and create a nandroid and titanium backup.
But, it does answer the OP's question! There is a way to backup without root. Thanks for posting it as I had completely forgot that was there!
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DocHoliday77 said:
Forgot about that. However, as that guide states, it's assumed that the user already has the latest Android SDK installed. If someone has not rooted, or is not trying to root, chances are they won't have it. And even if they do, imo it still a simpler process to root and create a nandroid and titanium backup.
But, it does answer the OP's question! There is a way to backup without root. Thanks for posting it as I had completely forgot that was there!
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True, but there are some users that are savvy enough for this guide that do not want a rooted phone for one reason or another. I concur, rooting and running TiBu would be the easier/better way to go.

DJ_SpaRky said:
True, but there are some users that are savvy enough for this guide that do not want a rooted phone for one reason or another. I concur, rooting and running TiBu would be the easier/better way to go.
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Wouldn't you just need the ADB executable to do this, like the one in my signature?

Aerowinder said:
Wouldn't you just need the ADB executable to do this, like the one in my signature?
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Based on my experience, Yes. The ADB.exe with the required modules/drivers should work for this shell-type work.
EDIT: I just checked the .zip in your signature for ADB and it includes the .exe and the modules as well as fastboot. This should work as long as the device drivers are installed or available

Thanks for everyone's input!
The problem for me though is that I can't unroot and reroot due to my work e-mail security parameters. I need to always come off a clean slate (to my understanding there isn't a clean way around the root) so I was looking for a method to do a full backup like TiBu but without having to ever root and unroot your device.

Aerowinder said:
Wouldn't you just need the ADB executable to do this, like the one in my signature?
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DJ_SpaRky said:
Based on my experience, Yes. The ADB.exe with the required modules/drivers should work for this shell-type work.
EDIT: I just checked the .zip in your signature for ADB and it includes the .exe and the modules as well as fastboot. This should work as long as the device drivers are installed or available
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The guide states that it requires the latest SDK, but it's probably just how he gets adb to begin with I guess. I haven't looked real close at it, but I wonder if there'd be a good way to batch script something like this....
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DocHoliday77 said:
The guide states that it requires the latest SDK, but it's probably just how he gets adb to begin with I guess. I haven't looked real close at it, but I wonder if there'd be a good way to batch script something like this....
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Sure, it could be automated with a simple batch file (with appropriate pauses for phone interaction). I would do it myself, but this wine won't drink itself :laugh:
I don't find such an option to be terribly useful, to be honest.

eddylee09 said:
Thanks for everyone's input!
The problem for me though is that I can't unroot and reroot due to my work e-mail security parameters. I need to always come off a clean slate (to my understanding there isn't a clean way around the root) so I was looking for a method to do a full backup like TiBu but without having to ever root and unroot your device.
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Would a Custom Recovery be OK? because both CWM and TWRP have Backup/Restore capabilities that would not require Root, just the aftermarket recovery.

DJ_SpaRky said:
Would a Custom Recovery be OK? because both CWM and TWRP have Backup/Restore capabilities that would not require Root, just the aftermarket recovery.
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I think that would. I used to use TWRP but I was under the impression that I needed to be rooted for this. Am I wrong?

eddylee09 said:
I think that would. I used to use TWRP but I was under the impression that I needed to be rooted for this. Am I wrong?
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You don't need to be rooted for a custom recovery, just install from ODIN and you're good. This will increase the "binary count" and set the firmware to "custom" if that makes a difference. The stock ROM/FW/Baseband/modem/etc are all left exactly how they were when you started.

DJ_SpaRky said:
You don't need to be rooted for a custom recovery, just install from ODIN and you're good. This will increase the "binary count" and set the firmware to "custom" if that makes a difference. The stock ROM/FW/Baseband/modem/etc are all left exactly how they were when you started.
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Perfect, thanks!
If I need to wipe my binary count, I can just use Triangle Away correct? I don't need to be rooted for that?

eddylee09 said:
Perfect, thanks!
If I need to wipe my binary count, I can just use Triangle Away correct? I don't need to be rooted for that?
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Yes, and Yes, but you can root and run it then "full unroot".
There are other ways (ADB/Fastboot mainly) to install it without "bumping the count". You would need to what partition to install do and it can be complicated, this greatly increases the brick factor, ODIN is much easier/safer.

DJ_SpaRky said:
Yes, and Yes, but you can root and run it then "full unroot".
There are other ways (ADB/Fastboot mainly) to install it without "bumping the count". You would need to what partition to install do and it can be complicated, this greatly increases the brick factor, ODIN is much easier/safer.
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Good morning, I'm sorry to contradict you but, my understanding is that having a custom recovery will bump the flash counter regardless of how it is installed. It also changes the device status to modified.
Both situations can of course be rectified by going back to stock recovery, with root and running triangle away. He then could unroot.
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WhoWhere said:
Good morning, I'm sorry to contradict you but, my understanding is that having a custom recovery will bump the flash counter regardless of how it is installed. It also changes the device status to modified.
Both situations can of course be rectified by going back to stock recovery, with root and running triangle away. He then could unroot.
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Oh, I was under the impression that ODIN was what bumped the count if it was a non-Samsung signed file. Truth be told, I never really looked in to it since it doesn't really matter to me.

No worries. You are half right. Both situations will bump the flash counter with recent firmware. It didn't used to be the case, but with all of the bs Samsung has been pulling, they added the additional check for a custom recovery.
I just got thinking, I think heilium might be able to do a backup on an unrooted phone.
http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
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WhoWhere said:
No worries. You are half right. Both situations will bump the flash counter with recent firmware. It didn't used to be the case, but with all of the bs Samsung has been pulling, they added the additional check for a custom recovery.
I just got thinking, I think heilium might be able to do a backup on an unrooted phone.
http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
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Koush strikes again, it looks like he has scripted the adb backup (and added some stuff too, I'm sure): http://www.clockworkmod.com/carbon

Instead of all that hair splitting, I am surprised no one has mentioned My Backup Lite (or pro)
That app will do backup like Titanium except without Root. If you have root then there are additional features. But not needed for basic backup.

Unroot but keep current ROM?

My employer just implemented a new policy where they won't allow corporate email on a rooted phone. I'm currently running a rooted phone with a custom ROM.
I'm familiar with flashing, ODIN, etc. but I'm not sure if/how to unroot my phone but keep my current ROM (if possible).
Is this possible, thanks!

If you took the 4.3 update you're out of luck
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I have the S3Rx 3.0 Rom installed currently, which is 4.3.

SleepyDad said:
I have the S3Rx 3.0 Rom installed currently, which is 4.3.
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Unroot and custom ROM are a contradiction in terms. Installing a custom ROM means making modifications to your device's operating system which necessarily requires root access. If you want to be compliant with this particular device, therefore, you would need to revert to the full 4.3 stock ROM. If you need to do this, there's a thread somewhere that contains the full 4.3 restore image.

I guess that this is not possible.

Larry2999 said:
Unroot and custom ROM are a contradiction in terms. Installing a custom ROM means making modifications to your device's operating system which necessarily requires root access. If you want to be compliant with this particular device, therefore, you would need to revert to the full 4.3 stock ROM. If you need to do this, there's a thread somewhere that contains the full 4.3 restore image.
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Flashing a ROM does not require root. The custom recovery and the actual Android operating system are two completely different operating systems.
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If your work isn't allowing you to be rooted on their email server, I believe you can hide root with a certain application that is on my tongue. I'll more than likely edit my post when it comes to my mind again.
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I believe super user and super su both have unroot options. So you could get your ROM setup three way you want then unroot. Otherwise like codemonkey said I believe there is an app I've seen to hide root
Making the iPhone jealous one user at a time.

codemonkey98 said:
Flashing a ROM does not require root. The custom recovery and the actual Android operating system are two completely different operating systems.
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If your work isn't allowing you to be rooted on their email server, I believe you can hide root with a certain application that is on my tongue. I'll more than likely edit my post when it comes to my mind again.
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If you are flashing a custom ROM that does not require pre-root, it's because the root process is embedded into the whole installation process of the ROM itself. Thus, you may not see it but it's there all the same. The basic definition of root itself is making changes/gaining privileged access to the core of your phone's operating system which is what you are doing when you install a custom ROM. It may be possible indeed to hide root but it doesn't change the fact that it's there and it would all boil down to how the Company's enterprise system is set to function. If it is set up to use Knox security settings which mostly favors corporate environments, then it may be difficult to by-pass.

SleepyDad said:
My employer just implemented a new policy where they won't allow corporate email on a rooted phone. I'm currently running a rooted phone with a custom ROM.
I'm familiar with flashing, ODIN, etc. but I'm not sure if/how to unroot my phone but keep my current ROM (if possible).
Is this possible, thanks!
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Look through the exposed framework module download section there should be me one there that will help you I saw it yesterday it says it will hide root from a app without uprooting your phone
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Hide your root, easy as that.

mkfryan said:
I believe super user and super su both have unroot options. So you could get your ROM setup three way you want then unroot.
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Question here: if he unroots, would an update to his ROM re-root? I mean, it would most certainly re-install SuperSU/Superuser, particularly if the new ROM version includes a newer SuperSU/Superuser. So that would mean he would have to un-root after every upgrade...
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I too saw an Xposed module for this (RootCloak, not to name it ; and if the corporate email app is Good For Enterprise, there is also Good for Enterprise Disable Root Check). Haven't tried any of them. But read the fine prints, as they say when an app would still be able to find root even if it's hidden.

Alexandre-P said:
Question here: if he unroots, would an update to his ROM re-root? I mean, it would most certainly re-install SuperSU/Superuser, particularly if the new ROM version includes a newer SuperSU/Superuser. So that would mean he would have to un-root after every upgrade...
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I too saw an Xposed module for this (RootCloak, not to name it ; and if the corporate email app is Good For Enterprise, there is also Good for Enterprise Disable Root Check). Haven't tried any of them. But read the fine prints, as they say when an app would still be able to find root even if it's hidden.
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If the rom update includes busybox it will.
I accidentally unrooted my device though. I did the fix root command in recovery mode, then deleted the original SU app on my device and it did unroot it. Problem is with a custom rom, you depend on root for everything!