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[Q] 2.3 Sense ROM with Sense stripped out?

Hey guys, it's been a while since I set foot in here and am behind on all the latest ROMs. I browsed the first few pages of development and perhaps I missed it but I'm looking for a ROM that is based off the official 2.3 build, but has Sense stripped out of it, so it still has working 4G but none of that crappy Sense bloat. I know there was a froyo ROM like that (Vael or Mik perhaps?) but I want to make the upgrade to Gingerbread. Been running MIUI forever and want to try something else. Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA.

Not sure exactly what you asking for. Is it supposed to not be based on sense at all? If so go with OMFGB you can Google it and find it. I'm not trying to look for a link right now. I've run it and its a great 2.3 build based on Vanilla. I don't run it because I like sense 2.1 which is in the Ginger ale rom
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Sense 2.1/3.0 is not the same as Sense 1.0.
You should give it a shot. With the GB added in, it's really pretty nice.

I really am not interested in Sense at all. I am a LauncherPro guy so having Sense on it is pointless. What I am interested in is a ROM based off the official OTA that has all the Sense elements stripped out of it. Still uses a Sense kernel, still has 4G, but has no Sense. I did a little research and the Froyo equivalent was VaelPak, but it doesn't look like he has a GB build yet.

_MetalHead_ said:
I really am not interested in Sense at all. I am a LauncherPro guy so having Sense on it is pointless. What I am interested in is a ROM based off the official OTA that has all the Sense elements stripped out of it. Still uses a Sense kernel, still has 4G, but has no Sense. I did a little research and the Froyo equivalent was VaelPak, but it doesn't look like he has a GB build yet.
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Yea try out OMFGB if you don't want sense. It meets all your requirements in the rom , although Hipkat is right, sense 2.1/3.0 it nothing like sense 1.0.
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jborell3 said:
Yea try out OMFGB if you don't want sense. It meets all your requirements in the rom , although Hipkat is right, sense 2.1/3.0 it nothing like sense 1.0.
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Just looked into it, still isn't quite what I am looking for. It doesn't look like what I want is currently available. Might go with SalvageMod, I've heard good things about it.

I don't think there are any 'senseless' roms of the OTA out yet. Also just for tossing ideas, if you want to try CM7, its on android 2.3.4 now, and with the Tiamat kernel, epic win. Also good seeing ya. And you, leave MIUI??? The Rapture is upon us.

teh roxxorz said:
I don't think there are any 'senseless' roms of the OTA out yet. Also just for tossing ideas, if you want to try CM7, its on android 2.3.4 now, and with the Tiamat kernel, epic win. Also good seeing ya. And you, leave MIUI??? The Rapture is upon us.
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Hey bud! Long time! No rapture yet, Mr. Camping postponed that till October now Haha yeah, I think I'm done with MIUI finally. I really want to take advantage of 4G to tether my iPad 2, and for some reason MIUI has been giving me nothing but problems lately. I really only want to do this once, so I was hoping for a senseless ROM because I'm sure they will be more stable than other GB/AOSP ROMs. Just don't want any more issues. How stable is CM7 now?
Hey do you know if the sense removal scripts work with the latest OTA? I might just do that and call it a day.

_MetalHead_ said:
Just looked into it, still isn't quite what I am looking for. It doesn't look like what I want is currently available. Might go with SalvageMod, I've heard good things about it.
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What is the difference between what you are looking for and just installing launcher pro? Then just use TB or root explorer and delete all the sense crap you don't want like all the widgets and such.

Stuke00 said:
What is the difference between what you are looking for and just installing launcher pro? Then just use TB or root explorer and delete all the sense crap you don't want like all the widgets and such.
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Well there's much more to sense than just the launcher and widgets. It is very deeply ingrained in the ROM. Deleting all that crap is the next best thing, but not ideal for what I want.
Teh_Roxxors is gonna laugh here, but I just made a last minute executive decision to update to the latest MIUI instead. I was just on stock GB Sense for a few minutes, and besides it being completely unbearable, I STILL have no 4G by my house. So, screw it. MIUI GB it is.

_MetalHead_ said:
Well there's much more to sense than just the launcher and widgets. It is very deeply ingrained in the ROM. Deleting all that crap is the next best thing, but not ideal for what I want.
Teh_Roxxors is gonna laugh here, but I just made a last minute executive decision to update to the latest MIUI instead. I was just on stock GB Sense for a few minutes, and besides it being completely unbearable, I STILL have no 4G by my house. So, screw it. MIUI GB it is.
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Yeah I was just wondering why it had to be a sense rom... sounds like CM7 would be right up your alley since it doesn't have any sense at all.

Stuke00 said:
Yeah I was just wondering why it had to be a sense rom... sounds like CM7 would be right up your alley since it doesn't have any sense at all.
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Just because I don't want to deal with stability issues. Every time I flashed CM, I always had reboots regardless of the kernel, same thing with Ultimate Droid. The only AOSP ROM that was ever good to me was MIUI, but even that started to crap out towards the end. I am not as flash happy as I once was, the last ROM I flashed was MIUI 1.1.28 and it was beautiful for a while but lately it had been crapping out ridiculously. I figure if the ROM was Sense based, I wouldn't have those issues. No matter though, I just flashed the latest MIUI GB build and it seems pretty good. It's gorgeous, they have definitely come a long way since 1.1.28, and I think it's going to be pretty stable for me. Though, only time will tell.

Recommended rooted stock rom?

I just rooted my sister's droid incredible. I'm not familiar with roms for the incredible, so I'm looking for recommendations to have a near stock experience with sense, stable, rooted, optimized, and wifi tethering enabled? Thanks.

cavsoldier19d said:
I just rooted my sister's droid incredible. I'm not familiar with roms for the incredible, so I'm looking for recommendations to have a near stock experience with sense, stable, rooted, optimized, and wifi tethering enabled? Thanks.
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Look for a stock debloat ROM. Like it says, it's stock with a rooted stock kernel and all the bloat ware removed. Usually a dev tosses one out for every OTA. Doing a search for "debloat" in the dev forum should yield some results.

loonatik78 said:
Look for a stock debloat ROM. Like it says, it's stock with a rooted stock kernel and all the bloat ware removed. Usually a dev tosses one out for every OTA. Doing a search for "debloat" in the dev forum should yield some results.
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Thanks. My search yielded some results, but I'm actually looking for recommendations from peopole who have used them, pointing me to one or two really good stock roms with all the above said features. Considering that it's my sisters phone, and I live on the other side of the state from her, I won't be able to flash and play around with different ROMS for her. And she's not savy enough nor has the time to do this on her own.

cavsoldier19d said:
Thanks. My search yielded some results, but I'm actually looking for recommendations from peopole who have used them, pointing me to one or two really good stock roms with all the above said features. Considering that it's my sisters phone, and I live on the other side of the state from her, I won't be able to flash and play around with different ROMS for her. And she's not savy enough nor has the time to do this on her own.
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I swear by Chingy's ROMs for the dInc and the Thunderbolt. I highly recommend Incredibly Re-engineered 2.3.1 and Ziggy's 4/10 kernel. It's built on EVO 4G framework, but it's the fastest, most reliable, feature rich ROM I know of. It's the same version of Sense that comes on the dInc so it works smoothly. Ziggy's 4/10 kernel makes it even faster and is completely reliable. There's newer Sense builds. There's gingerbread builds. If you're looking for stock-style Sense with absolutely ALL the BS removed you'll never use, that's as solid as the Rock of Gibraltar, this is the only ROM I would recommend. Lou's number 8 works great on it too, which it comes with.

loonatik78 said:
I swear by Chingy's ROMs for the dInc and the Thunderbolt. I highly recommend Incredibly Re-engineered 2.3.1 and Ziggy's 4/10 kernel. It's built on EVO 4G framework, but it's the fastest, most reliable, feature rich ROM I know of. It's the same version of Sense that comes on the dInc so it works smoothly. Ziggy's 4/10 kernel makes it even faster and is completely reliable. There's newer Sense builds. There's gingerbread builds. If you're looking for stock-style Sense with absolutely ALL the BS removed you'll never use, that's as solid as the Rock of Gibraltar, this is the only ROM I would recommend. Lou's number 8 works great on it too, which it comes with.
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I just checked out Re-engineered and it looks like the rom is now up to version 2.4. Are you specifically recommending 2.3.1 over 2.4?

cvbcbcmv said:
I would recommend going to gingersense. Pure speed or synergy non 3d are probably the best.
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seconded
most of those work fine with the stock kernal, if not better.

cavsoldier19d said:
I just checked out Re-engineered and it looks like the rom is now up to version 2.4. Are you specifically recommending 2.3.1 over 2.4?
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Yep. You'll see 2.3.1, .2.3.2, and 2.4 and some older versions going back to 1.something (if they're still posted). 2.4 was a build he did that was completely odexed. The 2.3's are deodexed. I tried 2.4 and didn't find it quite as smooth as 2.3 with the mods I used on it, like the 4x5 workspace. The claim is odexed ROM's run smoother, but as soon as you boot the ROM, the entire ROM becomes odexed anyways, except odexed for your specific setup. It also seems more prone to rebooting.
I've followed the Synergy ROM for Tbolt for a while and that is a frankenstein project. It's a few guys that crank out nightlies with no end in sight, no goal of a final release, nor release candidates. It's highly experimental. That's not to say there aren't good builds. It's anybody's guess what you'll download on any particular night though. They have a lot of rabid fans, and they are pretty much all flash-a-holics. I don't call this a ROM you flash and drop in a FedEx box.
Gingersense has many good things said about it. I can't vouch for it as I've never used it. It is based on a leak. That implies a degree of incompleteness. Synergy is also a leak-based ROM. In my opinion, if you want to enjoy the richer experience of Sense 2.1, you can do that better on Froyo than Gingerbread. These are the Z ROMs. And you can get Incredibly Re-engineered in Z flavor as well. I set that up for my girlfriend and she ran it for about 2 months completely problem free.
This is just my opinion. Froyo is as solid as anything will ever be for that device. Chingy is still developing for that device and, from the looks of it, is possibly the most experienced dev on that device. I'm gonna be shipping mine across half way across the country in about 2 months and when I do I'm dropping it in the FedEx box exactly as I've described because I know that it's just gonna work, and work fast, month after month after month.

Try incrom 1.6 or liberation rom..my vote is for incrom
/Dinc

Close to stock? Skyraider 4.3. It has some awesome features added to it to make it a perfect stock replacement without deviating too far away from stock
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[Q] Help with ROM choice, bear with me please

I need a Gingerbread/Sense ROM with and emphasis on stability. Close to stock would be best though it isn't paramount. I realize that ROMs are like beers, you get a different opinion on which is best depending on who you ask. The circumstances just don't allow me to try out a whole slew of ROMs.
A good friend's wife has an EVO 4G (I have a Sensation, G2x & HD2) and is having trouble with stability. I suggested we root it and slap a custom ROM on it. While they were over I rooted it and got everything ready to back up and slap a ROM on it. Problem is I am unsure as to what ROM to put on it. Yes, I could try out several ROMs to find one that works but this isn't going to go well at all. The reasons should be obvious for anyone who is married. This is magnified by the fact that I would only have access to the phone maybe once every other week. I need a silver bullet for this one.
Thank you for your time.

I've tried a ton of sense roms, MikG still wins for stability and everything working for me.

I'm currently running synergy w/o sense lockscreen. Loving it. I've had no problems with stability.
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Neitmrh15 said:
I've tried a ton of sense roms, MikG still wins for stability and everything working for me.
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This one I assume? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038967
kingphreak13 said:
I'm currently running synergy w/o sense lockscreen. Loving it. I've had no problems with stability.
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RC2 from the below thread? Is there a problem with the lock screen or is that a personal preference?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144447

Try EVO classic Rom. It's based off the latest stock Rom. It's fast and so far no trouble for me.
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Link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312414
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Thats the one. I used to use Synergy to but I found it to be a bit slower than MikG and Mik sees more updates.
If you go Synergy RLS1 is the newest version. RC2 is older and was an unofficial release I believe. I never had a problem with the lock screen on Synergy.
DECIM8 said:
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This one I assume? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038967
RC2 from the below thread? Is there a problem with the lock screen or is that a personal preference?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144447
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I've found Mik Roms to be the most stable as well as be current with the latest updates. Myn's Roms are excellent as well.

DECIM8 said:
I need a Gingerbread/Sense ROM with and emphasis on stability. Close to stock would be best though it isn't paramount. I realize that ROMs are like beers, you get a different opinion on which is best depending on who you ask. The circumstances just don't allow me to try out a whole slew of ROMs.
A good friend's wife has an EVO 4G (I have a Sensation, G2x & HD2) and is having trouble with stability. I suggested we root it and slap a custom ROM on it. While they were over I rooted it and got everything ready to back up and slap a ROM on it. Problem is I am unsure as to what ROM to put on it. Yes, I could try out several ROMs to find one that works but this isn't going to go well at all. The reasons should be obvious for anyone who is married. This is magnified by the fact that I would only have access to the phone maybe once every other week. I need a silver bullet for this one.
Thank you for your time.
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click on the link in my sig to learn about aosp roms and kernels, it also has links to the roms and dl zips to the kernels. aosp may not be what you want but in reality you never know till you try ^_^

DECIM8 said:
I need a Gingerbread/Sense ROM with and emphasis on stability. Close to stock would be best though it isn't paramount. I realize that ROMs are like beers, you get a different opinion on which is best depending on who you ask. The circumstances just don't allow me to try out a whole slew of ROMs.
A good friend's wife has an EVO 4G (I have a Sensation, G2x & HD2) and is having trouble with stability. I suggested we root it and slap a custom ROM on it. While they were over I rooted it and got everything ready to back up and slap a ROM on it. Problem is I am unsure as to what ROM to put on it. Yes, I could try out several ROMs to find one that works but this isn't going to go well at all. The reasons should be obvious for anyone who is married. This is magnified by the fact that I would only have access to the phone maybe once every other week. I need a silver bullet for this one.
Thank you for your time.
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1. If she is having a problem with stability on a stock unrooted Evo then she needs to backup her information and just do a factory reset.
2. Trying out several ROMs is required because phones react to various ROMs differently. I can tell you that a certain ROM plays well with my phone but it may not play quite as well with yours. Then comes the issue of kernels. Kernels have a large impact on the phone's stability as well.
3. Tell your friend to do his own homework on how to get her phone up and running or have an affair with her so that you can see her more often and get more opportunities to test ROMs/kernels on her phone.

What version of Sense would you prefer?

Green_Arrow said:
click on the link in my sig to learn about aosp roms and kernels, it also has links to the roms and dl zips to the kernels. aosp may not be what you want but in reality you never know till you try ^_^
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I ran AOSP and CM ROMs on my G2X. Eaglesblood with Faux's kernel. CM and AOSP ROMs are actually my preference for Android in general. I am not a huge fan of Sense, it has some nice apps but its too confining. This isn't my phone though.
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What version of Sense would you prefer?
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The EVO 4G has 2.5 by default I believe. I run the leaked 3.5 on my Sensation and it has some improvements over 2.5 and a couple over 3.0. If there is a very stable and fully functional ROM with 3.x that would be better. Stability and functionality still trump everything else though.
They mentioned that Netflix has to work as they use it often. Skype working properly with video would be good as well.

DECIM8 said:
I ran AOSP and CM ROMs on my G2X. Eaglesblood with Faux's kernel. CM and AOSP ROMs are actually my preference for Android in general. I am not a huge fan of Sense, it has some nice apps but its too confining. This isn't my phone though.
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i agree AOSP Roms are a lot better, smoother, and allow for more customization, that's why the thread i made in my sig is only about them and not about sense based roms. plus whenever an ICS rom comes out it'll be AOSP

Whats Better

Hey Guys whats better my cousin keeps on bugging me and he dosen't like my oppinion so I'll aks you guys instead so that he'll finally stop so
What do you guys think
AOKP or HTC Sense?

Better in what way?
To me its all a matter of preference. I've never been able to stand a Sense ROM more than a week.

biohazrd51 said:
Better in what way?
To me its all a matter of preference. I've never been able to stand a Sense ROM more than a week.
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Overall Performance and the Camera Quality

Again, its a matter of preference. Some people like Cameras apps from other ROMs, or off the market. Performance is a mixed bag too. I never had much luck with Sense 3.0 or 3.5 ROMs with performance, but other people say it works flawless.
Just give him the advice that probably 90% of the people here would: try them out and find out what works for you.

But if your looking for an opinion... the best cameras I've used have been in sense roms, but other than for the camera I can't stand sense, never cared much for eye candy.
I prefer speed and stability so I would say the best is aosp, aokp, cm, even miui. But never sense... again just adding my 0.02$
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Thankyou alot guys now I could review for my tests on Monday

If you're talking bout something at the level of ICS 4.0.4, then I would say 'performance' wise AOKP is going to be better in general, not as much 'eye-candy' and such you'd get from Sense. (As far as I know, no Sense ICS rom has a working camera yet).
But if you're talking Gingerbread and earlier, it's really going to depend on the custom Rom. For example AOKP is most likely going to out perform a stock sense install, but a custom Sense Rom could be on par.
Guess it depends on where your priorities are, do you need more eye candy, or are you aiming more for raw performance/functionality?

kbeezie said:
If you're talking bout something at the level of ICS 4.0.4, then I would say 'performance' wise AOKP is going to be better in general, not as much 'eye-candy' and such you'd get from Sense. (As far as I know, no Sense ICS rom has a working camera yet).
But if you're talking Gingerbread and earlier, it's really going to depend on the custom Rom. For example AOKP is most likely going to out perform a stock sense install, but a custom Sense Rom could be on par.
Guess it depends on where your priorities are, do you need more eye candy, or are you aiming more for raw performance/functionality?
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There are some ICS Roms that have camera and camcoreder working on the DZ, like Ice Cream Jibwich and AOKP bulids for vision (those were the only ROMS I got to try, so those are the only ones I know. )

The Android Manual said:
There are some ICS Roms that have camera and camcoreder working on the DZ, like Ice Cream Jibwich and AOKP bulids for vision (those were the only ROMS I got to try, so those are the only ones I know. )
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But are either of them SENSE 4.0? I was specifically referring to Sense Roms. I know some work, as I'm using an ICS rom where it works.

kbeezie said:
But are either of them SENSE 4.0? I was specifically referring to Sense Roms. I know some work, as I'm using an ICS rom where it works.
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ahh... well none yet but once the DHD gets that ICS update Dev's we'll get that Sense 4.0 camera up and running!
and hey why is that Kernel 3.0 from the DHD so important? the people from the Desire S forums have it already.

If ur cousin want a best camera yet performance out of it,get the xperia sense by taz instead..it doest use sense as launcher,but use xperia launcher which was really light..like running 17mb for me.. it's a fast yet with function of sense
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[Q] Are there any JB roms with 720p working?

Well not just 720p but EVERYTHING working.
I was looking at DK's roms the CM10 and CM10 4.2
Are there any others (my used Dinc2 should be arriving in the 28th so i want to get ready to root it, S-OFF, and load some jelly goodness on it.
OR if i should stay on stock for everything to work properly?
Thanks everyone

MoonMaster345 said:
Well not just 720p but EVERYTHING working.
I was looking at DK's roms the CM10 and CM10 4.2
Are there any others (my used Dinc2 should be arriving in the 28th so i want to get ready to root it, S-OFF, and load some jelly goodness on it.
OR if i should stay on stock for everything to work properly?
Thanks everyone
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If you want everything working you'll have to stay stock. Jelly Bean is great but it will always have a few issues no matter what rom you are on.

Dk cm9 works very well with only a few bugs. Working 720 camera as well.
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MoonMaster345 said:
Well not just 720p but EVERYTHING working.
I was looking at DK's roms the CM10 and CM10 4.2
Are there any others (my used Dinc2 should be arriving in the 28th so i want to get ready to root it, S-OFF, and load some jelly goodness on it.
OR if i should stay on stock for everything to work properly?
Thanks everyone
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I have the Incredible HD RLS 2 (ICS 4.0.4 Sense 3.6) ROM if you want it. It real nice and loaded with features. Only problem is that the memory is like maxed out. (cause it pretty much stock) after my first pass through I was able to free up about 60mb. I personally get rid of junk like calander, weather, etc. You can get way smaller apps for these in the app store. After I free up space it ran faster. Me personally... I like to keep mine stock (deodexed of course), debloated, and themed. Mine runs so fast! If you were to go with this I'd recommend a overclocked kernel as well!

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I have the Incredible HD RLS 2 (ICS 4.0.4 Sense 3.6) ROM if you want it. It real nice and loaded with features. Only problem is that the memory is like maxed out. (cause it pretty much stock) after my first pass through I was able to free up about 60mb. I personally get rid of junk like calander, weather, etc. You can get way smaller apps for these in the app store. After I free up space it ran faster. Me personally... I like to keep mine stock (deodexed of course), debloated, and themed. Mine runs so fast! If you were to go with this I'd recommend a overclocked kernel as well!
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What kernel are you suggesting to use for over clocking a sense ROM? I haven't seen anything about custom sense kernels for ICS. If you are referring to using aero's kernels, those are aosp ROMs only.
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There is not any custom kernels for sense roms.

NeverSeparate said:
What kernel are you suggesting to use for over clocking a sense ROM? I haven't seen anything about custom sense kernels for ICS. If you are referring to using aero's kernels, those are aosp ROMs only.
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Sorry about that.. I never messed with the kernel just assumed it would help and that there was one. (Smacked myself for assuming) lol

SaltYNuTz said:
Sorry about that.. I never messed with the kernel just assumed it would help and that there was one. (Smacked myself for assuming) lol
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No biggie, just wanted to be sure someone reading this didn't go trying to flash one and freak out when it didn't work and start 4 new threads asking for support.
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Are cm9 roms the general go to for stability on the dinc2? I'm getting one for my wife and would like to have an idea of what to throw on it after s-off. I don't need bleeding edge but don't want her stuck on sense either.
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My other DD is an LG spectrum on cm10

ortrigger said:
Are cm9 roms the general go to for stability on the dinc2? I'm getting one for my wife and would like to have an idea of what to throw on it after s-off. I don't need bleeding edge but don't want her stuck on sense either.
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My other DD is an LG spectrum on cm10
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Cm7.2 is probably safer. I think all ICS and jb ROMs have slight issues at best due to lack of source. MROM is nice. If she doesn't want to deal with occasional reboots and often flakey cameras (some are pretty stable but results vary), I would stay with gingerbread.
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NeverSeparate said:
Cm7.2 is probably safer. I think all ICS and jb ROMs have slight issues at best due to lack of source. MROM is nice. If she doesn't want to deal with occasional reboots and often flakey cameras (some are pretty stable but results vary), I would stay with gingerbread.
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What are the main bugs in ics and jb? Is cm9 stable enough to use as a daily driver?
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ortrigger said:
What are the main bugs in ics and jb? Is cm9 stable enough to use as a daily driver?
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DD is subjective. I have used PAC now for a DD. It has some hiccups occasionally but I work through it.
You should read through some of the threads for more details. Not everyone has the same experience. But you may experience lag, random reboots, camera force closes or a need to clear data to make camera work periodically. You will likely have to manually input APN settings, which only has to be done once so no biggie there. You may have no problem at all. For someone who likes tinkering it isn't a big deal to do those things. But if you are looking for a ROM for someone who just wants it to work, and not have to possibly switch due to issues, and who hates resetting everything like a new phone, gingerbread is more stable. All the ICS and JB ROMs use a hacked gingerbread kernel except for sense ROMs using a stock kernel. There is no custom sense kernel for ICS or jb. And there are some nice sense ROMs on gingerbread also, with great features. And because they are what the phone is meant to run they don't really have issues. I know you say you don't want her "stuck" on sense, but she might like it. Take a look at nits sense ROMs, as well as skyraider zues. I have used zues as a fallback for quite some time. Andy bones had some nice mods for it too. Bottom line, if she doesn't mind a few possible issues try a few and see, but if she just wants it to work right, don't mess with her phone just for your sake.
If you do try some, dk's ROMs and chilly's have been good so far. Not perfect but great work considering lack of source. Hope this helps.
Sent from my Incredibly Indecisive Dinc2

CM7 is rock solid. Everything works.
I'm using an aeroevan kernel and the supercharger script. Also incredicontrol to oc to 1.4GHz.
Flashed the latest Verizon radio.
Rock. Solid.
-CM7 on DInc2

We picked the phone up yesterday and I was pleasantly surprised to find it already s-offed and cm7 installed on it. I don't know about the radios on it. Probably won't mess with it since it's for my wife. Thanks for all the help.
sent from my nexus 7 on cm10.1
my other DD is an LG spectrum on cm10