[Q] Rom Manager, or Rom Toolbox? - Verizon Droid Incredible 2

Which do you use/prefer, Rom Manager by Koush, or Rom Toolbox by Jrummy16? They both offer a lot of the same features/functions, and a few that the other doesn't. If I was going to pay for the "PRO" version, which one should I get? Which one do you guys use, or prefer, and why?

I don't see a way to prefer ROM Manager| vs.ROM Toolbox, since there's almost zero overlap in what each one provides.

HogFan77 said:
Which do you use/prefer, Rom Manager by Koush, or Rom Toolbox by Jrummy16? They both offer a lot of the same features/functions, and a few that the other doesn't. If I was going to pay for the "PRO" version, which one should I get? Which one do you guys use, or prefer, and why?
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why you dont try 4ext Recovery.

if you want ROM Toolbox to do the premium things ROM Manager Pro does, you still have to buy ROM Manager pro.
i have Toolbox Pro (love it, highly recommended) and i use 4ext for all my recovery/ROM/flashing needs. 4ext is simply brilliant. dev is quick with teh email too.

Number R09 said:
if you want ROM Toolbox to do the premium things ROM Manager Pro does, you still have to buy ROM Manager pro.
i have Toolbox Pro (love it, highly recommended) and i use 4ext for all my recovery/ROM/flashing needs. 4ext is simply brilliant. dev is quick with teh email too.
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He's really fast with his emails. He's probably the most active dev I've seen.

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[ROM][07/18/11] Virtuous Sense v2.0.0 :: Enhanced & Optimized Stock ROM (2.42.405.2)

[ROM][07/18/11] Virtuous Sense v2.0.0 :: Enhanced & Optimized Stock ROM (2.42.405.2)
Virtuous Sense is a custom ROM for the HTC Vision series of phones (G2, DesireZ, etc). The goal is to provide a simple, Sense-based, mostly-stock ROM based on the official Desire-Z Sense ROM with essential bug fixes and only subtle enhancements. Virtuous started on the HTC Droid Incredible and is currently one of the most popular ROMs for that device. Virtuous for the Incredible has over 6000 users with an established reputation for stability; which we intend to continue for Vision users.
Features
Based off the official DesireZ Sense ROM (WWE 2.42.405.2), deodexed and zipaligned.
Pre-rooted with the latest version of Superuser and modified ramdisk to allow adb remount, mock locations, etc.
Wifi calling included and fully functional, conditionally installed for T-Mobile USA users only.
Optical trackpad unlock/wake.
Enhanced reboot options built-in, allowing for booting into recovery, bootloader, hot boot, etc.
Virtuous Sense custom kernel with overclocking daemon (no need for SetCPU/Tuner). Screen Off: 245760 / 599040 (conservative). Screen On: 245760 / 998400 (ondemand).
IO optimizations such as use of ext4 for all mounts and larger read-ahead buffer for improved sdcard performance.
Updated versions of all Market-available apps.
All Market-installable apps installed in /data/app. These apps are automatically installed for you both on initial install and after a factory reset/wipe. There are custom scripts to use Android's package manager (pm) to manage these apps, which ensures they are installed properly.
Added applications: ChromeToPhone, Google Voice and Titanium Backup. Since these are Market apps, they are automatically installed in /data/app for easy removal if desired.
Bloatware, defined as anything you could easily choose to download from the Market yourself, has been removed.
Disabled boot animation audio.
Automatic Virtuous OTA upgrade notification and installation via ROM Manager.
More Information :: Download​
Official Support Disclaimer
Users of this ROM are welcome and encouraged to assist one another in this thread. However, support from the development team will not be offered here. For that, please visit our official forums.
Reserved for future use.
awesome! will try now
Thanks so much, downloading now!
I think I may as well give this a go when I get around to it.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
whats the difference between this one and evil d's g2-z rom?
I have high hopes for this rom, thanks!
overclocked?
k0mpresd said:
overclocked?
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I'm afraid not on this one
You are GOD RMK .
Ciborg54 said:
whats the difference between this one and evil d's g2-z rom?
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I'd like to know as well. Thanks
Nice, ill check this out sometime!
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App
blah the rom is ok but htc sense just isnt for me lol .. i did like htcsense.com though that part was cool buuuut im a stock android kinda guy
This rom is beautiful.
Thank you!!!
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
Nice!
Very nice rom.
However can't install latest Flash Player from marketplace.
Other apps install fine so far though.
So far, the installation went flawless! Just getting a different feel of HTC Sense. This is really wear Titanium shines as backing up apps is such a god send.
EDIT: My only gripe is that I paid for the premium version of ROM Manager via Paypal, got the Premium, but installed this and lost it. =/ Is there any way for me to get it back, especially after paying for it?
found solution
Lord_of_Tech said:
Very nice rom.
However can't install latest Flash Player from marketplace.
Other apps install fine so far though.
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I had to uninstall the existing flash player from 'manage applications' in settings.
then the one in marketplace was able to install.
Great rom!
So whats so great about this release? Not trying to be ungrateful i honestly just want to clear the doubts
It's a modified version of HTC Sense with a couple perks that he explains in his post. It's nice and all but I got too adjusted to the stock feel of Android. HTC Sense is really nice, very graphical and user friendly, but I'm reverting back. Maybe once this comes out of the beta, I'll head on back to it.
But it's good! Try it out for kicks.

[Q] cyanogen - is it out?

I read on here he posted a status on twiter but was wondering if it's out and how to install it?
Thanks
Its called cyanogen and no, it hasn't been released as of yet.
[G2/HTC Vision]
Lol @ Crayogen... Anyway like luis86dr said it's not out yet. There were some nightly builds (unstable versions) posted yesterday but they got taken down pretty quickly. When CM6.1RC1 is released it will be available in the Developer section. You'll know when it's there; it'll be hard to miss.
luis86dr said:
Its called cyanogen and no, it hasn't been released as of yet.
[G2/HTC Vision]
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fixed thanks! any idea when ti should come out... also is it an app you can run or does it require some other coding and so on? Sorry very green to android
gravis86 said:
Lol @ Crayogen... Anyway like luis86dr said it's not out yet. There were some nightly builds (unstable versions) posted yesterday but they got taken down pretty quickly. When CM6.1RC1 is released it will be available in the Developer section. You'll know when it's there; it'll be hard to miss.
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lol Thanks! I just hope it easier than over clocking... it took me a good bit to overclock yesterday... but it was simple as changing the binary file name.
tbssimp said:
fixed thanks! any idea when ti should come out... also is it an app you can run or does it require some other coding and so on? Sorry very green to android
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The first rule of CyanogenMod is that you never ask for an ETA (when it will be released). Just thought I'd get that out of the way before someone strangles you for asking
CyanogenMod is a complete OS (Operating System) replacement. Also known as a ROM. In order to install CM, you will need a permanently rooted device. After rooting, you will need to install Clockwork Recovery, which will allow you to back up your current ROM and install the new one. It's fairly easy as long as you follow the steps in the links I posted, and of course follow the steps that will be posted in the CyanogenMod thread when it comes out.
tbssimp said:
fixed thanks! any idea when ti should come out... also is it an app you can run or does it require some other coding and so on? Sorry very green to android
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Cyanogen is a ROM. Not a app, big difference. Also to install the rom you will need to perm-root your phone.
Check the development section on how to do this and since your new to android I recommend you study up on adb / fastboot until your comfortable with the root process. Its really easy but any mistake in the commands will result in your g2 becoming a display model.
Once your rooted go to market and download clockworkmod.
Once downloaded open and flash recovery.
Walaaa, your ready for roms and all the bad stuff we shouldn't do to our phones. Hope this helps.
[G2/HTC Vision]
Cyanogen
Coming from Windows Mobile, I am used to flashing ROMs left and right. But what makes Cyanogen ROMs so special? From the sounds of it, it is the next best thing since sliced bread.
GermanGuy said:
Coming from Windows Mobile, I am used to flashing ROMs left and right. But what makes Cyanogen ROMs so special? From the sounds of it, it is the next best thing since sliced bread.
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Well I've never actually run CM before... But from what I understand what makes it so great is that it is based off AOSP (Android Open Source Project) code, adds some extra features, and some optimizations. Basically it's like if you took all the complaints you had about Android and fixed them, then you'd have CyanogenMod.
I think CM is especially good for people who don't have a Vanilla Android phone (like the G1, G2, and Nexus One). For instance my Vibrant came with a lot of proprietary apps and bloatware preloaded, and has a "TouchWiz" interface throughout the entire OS. CM will fix all that
luis86dr said:
Cyanogen is a ROM. Not a app, big difference. Also to install the rom you will need to perm-root your phone.
Check the development section on how to do this and since your new to android I recommend you study up on adb / fastboot until your comfortable with the root process. Its really easy but any mistake in the commands will result in your g2 becoming a display model.
Once your rooted go to market and download clockworkmod.
Once downloaded open and flash recovery.
Walaaa, your ready for roms and all the bad stuff we shouldn't do to our phones. Hope this helps.
[G2/HTC Vision]
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OOOO I didn't know it was a no no to ask the ETA lol sorry...
Well so far I have the vissionary perm root and I have clockwork... I tried backing up the ROM with clockwork before I overclocked the phone... it shut teh phone down and when restarted it sshowed a screen with the android guy and an ! inside a up arrow? I didn't know if it was suppose to do that or if that was bad I pulled the batt and restarted and it started fine so I am guessing I didn't really back up the rom... is that bad if i might want to get back to stock one day?
GermanGuy said:
Coming from Windows Mobile, I am used to flashing ROMs left and right. But what makes Cyanogen ROMs so special? From the sounds of it, it is the next best thing since sliced bread.
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From my experience with the G1, cyanogen ROMs have always been stable and relatively bug-free with a lot of additions and ability to customize stuff within the ROM.
It's too bad that CM6 only uses ADW as the Launcher, I use LauncherPro Plus (stock ain't bad either) and I hope ADW is as fast & smooth as LauncherPro Plus.
TL24 said:
It's too bad that CM6 only uses ADW as the Launcher, I use LauncherPro Plus (stock is ain't bad either) and I hope ADW is as fast & smooth as LauncherPro Plus.
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i use ADW now and have no problems...
does CM 6.1 RC1 come pre themed or are we able to add a theme on top of it? i really hate this white status bar haha
Yeah, the non-stock launcher has always been the deal-breaker for me, too. I'm enjoying stock rooted with bacon bits for now.
Do you HAVE to use ADW Launcher with CM 6.1? Or once we install CM 6.1 (whenever that is) can we uninstall ADW Launcher and install LauncherPro Plus?
TL24 said:
Do you HAVE to use ADW Launcher with CM 6.1? Or once we install CM 6.1 (whenever that is) can we uninstall ADW Launcher and install LauncherPro Plus?
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You don't have to use it you can install any other launcher you like.
gravis86 said:
You don't have to use it you can install any other launcher you like.
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Good to know! Just had to ask since this is my first Android device and installing CM 6.1 would be my very first time installing a ROM.
I use Launcher Pro on my other phones running CyanogenMod. It works great. Sometimes I leave ADW installed, other times I remove it completely.
Great to hear..... Now.... If only Cyanogen would release CM 6.1 already lol
seancneal said:
Yeah, the non-stock launcher has always been the deal-breaker for me, too. I'm enjoying stock rooted with bacon bits for now.
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Ok. I think I got bacon bits installed too but what exactly (or where can I go to read up on) does bacon bits give me? I had already installed busybox and I got the superuser extra from rom manager; so, tell me what else I'm getting and how do I best utilize these tools. I basically need a noob guide, but hey I've gotten this far (rooted also killed Google Goggles before the OTA update so I had to roll back then forward) I'm getting it slowly and my little bit of linux exp helps me a little bit too Thanks to whoever for whatever info you can point me to in advance.
On the thread, I been using ADW for a bit now... solid with (main reason) open source development, lots of themes, etc. Used the Launcher Pro (free) and liked it slightly better for feel, but I like something that can be looked at and improved via collaboration.

[Q] Rom Recommendations

Hey,
I had a horrible bootloop-infection on my phone today for no reason; maybe its the sign to replace the Rom; i had a milestone 5 from AOKP [ around june WTF??!?) installed and was enjoying it till this day;
I was waiting for the last 4.2 Rom update from AOKP but since no update for the last month i decided to get something new and fresh instead, so thought to come back here and ask you guys thos flash junkies or just people who realy enjoy their current ROM;
I wasnt here for 6 months due to studying in the university so most of the names are new to me in the Development section that's why i realy need the help to choose;
I dont need much only good battery life; option to remove the notification bar and to have the navigation bar transparent or invisible;
Currently sitting with 4.0.2 clean recovery Rom that i made on the start of February o0 build waiting for responses;
Thank you;
Well, I am not using any of these custom ROMs so I am always supporting the idea of going over the main thread of the most popular ROMs in the development section then choosing whatever seems reasonable to you. Try it, then if any complaints then go for another.
If you really want a 4.2 AOKP ROM, then check this
I hope you have a break from the university so you can play with these custom ROMs
Thank you ahmadallica;
I'm studying software engineering so my free time is for sleep only currently thats why i ask for guidance due to the fact i dont have much time to test each Rom;
The Rom you gave looks realy nice from the outside but sounds more of a huge nightly build instead of a stable one, with so many stuff missing and probably he just uses the AOKP frame without adding/updating/changing any stuff moreover the lack of changlog and an overall [work/not work] stuff that the rest of the Rom developers show suggesting its just an amateur one; i really appreciate this dude's hard work but i need something stable for half a year and not to be one of this Rom testers;
Highly recommend paranoid android, been through leads of custom ROMs and I've stuck with this the longest ... give it a go, excellent team and excellent ROM
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Muzzys 4.2 is super smooth and has a few nice mods...running it for 5 days now 4.5/5 .
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I'm realy liking what i see on Paranoid one tho; looks awesome;
Only question is are there any themes which support it or can u adjust color yourself from inside the system?
Muzzys looks like a full slim version with no additional features not sure thats what im looking for;
vitalero said:
cant find a thread for Muzzys to cheack it out
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Well, I searched for MMuzzy's and it is available here.
Be careful because I found that in the "Verizon" section so do NOT flash it if you are running a GSM GNex
vitalero said:
I'm realy liking what i see on Paranoid one tho; looks awesome;
Only question is are there any themes which support it or can u adjust color yourself from inside the system?
Muzzys looks like a full slim version with no additional features not sure thats what im looking for;
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Paranoidandroid is definitely the way to go. The new version is still in beta but almost completely stable in my opinion. Themes are hit or miss at this stage of the ROM but yes, you can adjust the colors for the navbar, statusbar, navigation icons and statusbar icons within each app. It can be found in settings/paranoidpreferences/apps.
I've been using this rom since v1.98, it's now at 2.99 BetaNINE and I have not looked at anything else.
*Sidenote, PA used to be CM based up until version 2.54, starting with 2.99 Beta1 it is now AOSP based for a smoother and faster experience with better battery life. This is why some features are not yet added back and other things are not fully perfected (i.e. themes).
The problem with themes is that with every new Beta of PA comes some new code and the themers cannot always keep up with every new release so a lot of themes end up causing issues. I would just customize as I recommended above for now and once AOSPA 3.0 is released PA will be out of beta and easier to find compatible themes.
Yes you can adjust the colour of the status bar and nav bar for each app individually from with the hybrid engine within the rom... Most play store themes support it too... anything else just let me know
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Thank you dankblaze for all that info;
I realy dont need that much of customization just that all bars/system/screens be with the same color and to be able to adjust that 1 color myself;
Is that possible in the new 2.99 or should i get the 2.54?
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Paranoidandroid is definitely the way to go. The new version is still in beta but almost completely stable in my opinion. Themes are hit or miss at this stage of the ROM but yes, you can adjust the colors for the navbar, statusbar, navigation icons and statusbar icons within each app. It can be found in settings/paranoidpreferences/apps.
I've been using this rom since v1.98, it's now at 2.99 BetaNINE and I have not looked at anything else.
*Sidenote, PA used to be CM based up until version 2.54, starting with 2.99 Beta1 it is now AOSP based for a smoother and faster experience with better battery life. This is why some features are not yet added back and other things are not fully perfected (i.e. themes).
The problem with themes is that with every new Beta of PA comes some new code and the themers cannot always keep up with every new release so a lot of themes end up causing issues. I would just customize as I recommended above for now and once AOSPA 3.0 is released PA will be out of beta and easier to find compatible themes.
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+1 agreed, with the colours I've not found the need for themes lately
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You def can change all colors in pa.ran it for a week...each app has a color setting too.
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CM - simple,smooth,stable with great support. The father of the most roms mentioned here .
vitalero said:
Thank you dankblaze for all that info;
I realy dont need that much of customization just that all bars/system/screens be with the same color and to be able to adjust that 1 color myself;
Is that possible in the new 2.99 or should i get the 2.54?
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Definitely use the newest 2.99 version. Much better experience.
Sent from my AOSPA Galaxy Nexus
Sorry for asking this but how exacly do i update my recovery? ive got one which i updated last time 10 months ago a touch recovery still working smooth; can i update it from inside it? or i must download a newer recovery and install it ON the old one? links to recommended/newest/best recovery would be kindly accepted;
Also forget to ask what kernal goes best this days;
TY'
vitalero said:
Sorry for asking this but how exacly do i update my recovery? ive got one which i updated last time 10 months ago a touch recovery still working smooth; can i update it from inside it? or i must download a newer recovery and install it ON the old one? links to recommended/newest/best recovery would be kindly accepted;
Also forget to ask what kernal goes best this days;
TY'
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Personally, I like TWRP so check this on how to install it easily. Take note that if you have CWM nandroid backups then they will NOT be compatible with TWRP because it has its own nandroid backups.
As for kernel, just try them till you find a suitable one
Thx bro, i might give it a try tho is there something wrong staying with CWM ? i dont care much for the backups im gonna format it anyway. but i read inside you say it not for Gnex and thats its only for the Nexus 4? is that true?
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Thx bro, i might give it a try tho is there something wrong staying with CWM ? i dont care much for the backups im gonna format it anyway. but i read inside you say it not for Gnex and thats its only for the Nexus 4? is that true?
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No no. That was for the other member in that thread who was mentioning a Nexus 4 version. TWRP works on both of them. Basically just download the Goo Manager app then it will install the correct version automatically just follow the steps to save some time for your software engineering studies
I will copy the steps below so you don't have to worry about that link in my previous post.
1- Run GooManager app
2- Click on the upper right 3 dots for settings
3- Click "Install OpenRecoveryScript"
4- Confirm Recovery Install --> Yes
5- Confirm download, reboot, and install --> Yes
6- A download process will start then it will be installed
7- (Optional) Reboot into recovery to ensure that TWRP is successfully installed and working.
And no there is nothing wrong with CWM, I just personally like TWRP
If you are staying with CWM, then just update it to the latest version before installing any 4.2 ROM. I think installing/flashing the latest CWM recovery can be done easily using the "ROM Manager" application from the Play Store
Jb sorcery latest is great and has every tweak you can think of, very stable and they have inverted gaapps!!!
sent from my spell ridden galaxy nexus
vitalero said:
Thx bro, i might give it a try tho is there something wrong staying with CWM ? i dont care much for the backups im gonna format it anyway. but i read inside you say it not for Gnex and thats its only for the Nexus 4? is that true?
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I recommend using TWRP. There were some problems with multiple media folders being created when flashing with CWM. I know latest TWRP did not have this problem. Don't know if latest CWM still does this or not.
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Aroma Installer??

What exactly is the aroma installer?
i've been searching around a little, so is it basically that rom devs can implement a ton of different features, and then when I flash the rom, i'll have to option to just select the ones I specifically want?
thanks
also, is there anything I'll need to install for it to work?
ejatds said:
What exactly is the aroma installer?
i've been searching around a little, so is it basically that rom devs can implement a ton of different features, and then when I flash the rom, i'll have to option to just select the ones I specifically want?
thanks
also, is there anything I'll need to install for it to work?
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Your brain is going in the right direction.
You need to be rooted and have a custom recovery installed, usually twrp is recommended
Its like a regular ROM but it will flash a base ROM from the dev them Tue aroma installer basically flashed all the options you added. Its a build you own ROM deal and works well for multi carrier ROMs and dev who want to give people more choice and avoid requests to save them some haadaches.
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Basically it gives you even more options on what is actually getting installed on your phone

ROM Toolbox - Backup

I have always used Ti Bu ever since I've been on Android. I'm thinking about flashing a 4.4 ROM , which does not support TiBU. I am told that ROM Toolbox will back up apps and maintain the data. I've got ROM Toolbox Pro, but have used it very little. Can someone explain or give me the steps on how to perform the system backup and keep all of the app data?
Thanks
I'm running jermaine151's excellent unofficial CM11 (4.4) and TiBu worked fine for me. I know it is a little offtopic from you question but I certainly had no issue with TiBu.
your question did prompt me to look into Rom Toolbox which I hadn't heard of previously. looks interesting. I found a guide that may be useful to you. http://forums.theandroidchannel.com/topic/303-guide-how-to-use-rom-toolbox-pro/
anyway, best of luck!
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I'm running jermaine151's excellent unofficial CM11 (4.4) and TiBu worked fine for me. I know it is a little offtopic from you question but I certainly had no issue with TiBu.
your question did prompt me to look into Rom Toolbox which I hadn't heard of previously. looks interesting. I found a guide that may be useful to you. http://forums.theandroidchannel.com/topic/303-guide-how-to-use-rom-toolbox-pro/
anyway, best of luck!
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Thanks! Good to have another option for backing up, going to give this a whirl!

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