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I think this better to be posted to Galaxy S I9000 Android Development.
So I posted it once more at here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7694817#post7694817
Board Admin, please feel free to delete this.
Hi all,
I took so many from here. It's time for me to contribute little to the community.
The lag issue of Galaxy S bother many ppl.
I tried many different method.
Yes the lag issue was improved and Quadrant score is higher.
But there are always some weird things happen... like sudden lag/black screen.
After I upgraded to firmwre I9000ZSJH1, the lag issue is improved a lot!
But still, there are rooms for improvement.
So I wrote a cmd which will help to generate a .sh file, which will move apps data stored under /data/data/ to the internal NAND memory (/dbdata/data) for faster access.
The Galaxy S built in 1xxMB of fast access NAND memory. It is a waste if we don't utilize them.
However, it is impossible to move all apps' data to the tiny NAND memory.
So here is a tool for you to customize what app's data you want to move.
Recommand to move the core Android apps and the apps that you use frequently.
Like Dialer, Contacts, Dolphin Browser, Facebook, Astro File Explorer......
Steps :
1. open [1.app.list.xls] and edit colume A and B.
colume A should be the data folder name of the apps you want to move.
colume B is the name of the apps (optional)
2. after you've done, simply "copy & paste" everything onto a notepad and save it as [2.apps.list.txt]
3. fireup the [3.Apps2NAND.cmd]
4. within few sec, a file [App2NAND.sh] will be created.
5. use Gscript to load and run the App2NAND.sh file. (the script requires root access. so make sure you have it!)
For experienced user :
Step 1 actually is just for user to manage the apps more clearly.
A user with little cmd knowledge may know the script only requires [2.app.list.txt] to work with.
You can skip Step 1 and directly go to Step 2 to edit the file.
The format should be { app data folder name + <tab> + app name }
Remarks :
Apps that moved to NAND may not be restore with Titanium Backup.
App link will be broken by doing so.
(I also include Linpack and Quadrant to the app list to cheat higher benchmark scores . You may remove it if you don't want to.)
Apps2NAND - fast data access - choose what to move! [added support for Froyo]
update 18 Nov 10:
Found some friends here still want to use this "old school" lagfix
1st of all, thanks to your support.
When I wrote this script, it was still the golden age of Eclair (2.1). So the script is definitely not prepared for Froyo (2.2).
However, just by changing few lines can make this script survives on Froyo. So here I updated a script for Froyo (apps2nand.Froyo.zip).
I haven't tested it since I am very satisfied with the [Spike Speedy Edition v3.0 OC], which comes with more advanced lagfix options (sztupy).
(I wrote something that even myself don't use now.... So it's really suprised and appreciated~)
But this script still has it merit ~~~~~~~~~ simple!
(and battery friendly, just a feeling~ no actually statistic~)
If you are interested in antique and brave enough, try it on Froyo. And let me know if any issues. I will try my best to fix.
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update 18 Aug 10:
Now included Installation and Uninstallation for this script.
Tried several times on my i9000 and it works.
Please read and follow the readme.txt inside the zip.
One tricky part for this script : it will failed when SU permission is not allowed in time during the script is running.
I have pause the script with 10 secs for you to allow the SU on i9000.
Make sure you allowed it.
If you failed to do so, no worry. it won't change anything.
Just simply re-run the script again.
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Hi all,
I took so many from here. It's time for me to contribute little to the community.
The lag issue of Galaxy S bother many ppl.
I tried many different method.
Yes the lag issue was improved and Quadrant score is higher.
But there are always some weird things happen... like sudden lag/black screen.
After I upgraded to firmwre I9000ZSJH1, the lag issue is improved a lot!
But still, there are rooms for improvement.
So I wrote a cmd which will help to generate a .sh file, which will move apps data stored under /data/data/ to the internal NAND memory (/dbdata/data) for faster access.
The Galaxy S built in 1xxMB of fast access NAND memory. It is a waste if we don't utilize them.
However, it is impossible to move all apps' data to the tiny NAND memory.
So here is a tool for you to customize what app's data you want to move.
Recommand to move the core Android apps and the apps that you use frequently.
Like Dialer, Contacts, Dolphin Browser, Facebook, Astro File Explorer......
For experienced user :
Step 1 actually is just for user to manage the apps more clearly.
A user with little cmd knowledge may know the script only requires [2.app.list.txt] to work with.
You can skip Step 1 and directly go to Step 2 to edit the file.
The format should be { app data folder name + <tab> + app name }
Remarks :
*** Apps that moved to NAND may not be restore with Titanium Backup. App link will be broken by doing so.
*** Please make a nandroid backup before apply this!
*** I am not responsible for any damage caused by this script.
(I also include Linpack and Quadrant to the app list to cheat higher benchmark scores . You may remove it if you don't want to.)
Is NAND where devices like HTC Desire and Nexus One store their Apps?
well this is almost what paul did some days after the phone got released...
lyno said:
Is NAND where devices like HTC Desire and Nexus One store their Apps?
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Yes, which is why they needed APPS2SD in Froyo.
So....when are you posting the script?
If you want I'll create a program that spits out the .txt file rather than do it in excel, copy paste etc.
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well this is almost what paul did some days after the phone got released...
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yes. that's what Paul did as I mentioned in my script.
But he simply push everything to NAND which oneday, you will find out of space.
Using my script, you can decide what to move, depending on the frequency of the apps usage.
lyno said:
So....when are you posting the script?
If you want I'll create a program that spits out the .txt file rather than do it in excel, copy paste etc.
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the script is updated and posted.
the excel is just for user to maintain their app list easily.
my script only works with the txt file.
you may skip the excel part if you like.
and thanks for your offer, lyno.
Is it possible to make a script that automatically moves smaller apps to the nand?
I mean it's not worth moving large games, but anything under 2MB should be considered.
Maybe use some intellegent calculation, if all the apps under XMB use less than 50% of free space on nand, increase X until it is efficiently used up.
Also there is HEAPS of space to be freed in NAND, delete stock ringtones, and other.
seems great
hmm, would moving to nand make those specific apps run faster than they would be if they were previously running under ext2/3/4 partitions provided for by the various lagfixes out there?
What happens if an app in the list is not on the phone, does it just skip it?
sturmeh said:
Is it possible to make a script that automatically moves smaller apps to the nand?
I mean it's not worth moving large games, but anything under 2MB should be considered.
Maybe use some intellegent calculation, if all the apps under XMB use less than 50% of free space on nand, increase X until it is efficiently used up.
Also there is HEAPS of space to be freed in NAND, delete stock ringtones, and other.
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hmm, would moving to nand make those specific apps run faster than they would be if they were previously running under ext2/3/4 partitions provided for by the various lagfixes out there?
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sturmeh, that requires more complex scripting skills, which is out of my knowledge...
and I think instead of choosing the apps2NAND depending on size, I think the "Frequency" of using the apps may be more appropriate.
e.g. I use TouchPal IME a lot. So I move it to the NAND.
Now when I type, TouchPal act lightening!!!
MiG123, I haven't done a serious comparison. But as I remembered, Apps2NAND gives me more "smooth" feeling.
Actually, you shouldn't compare Apps2NAND to other Apps2SD or EXT.
Since Apps2NAND only offers you around 1xxMB of app storage space. Way too far from the others experts' methods.
I suggest using this is because I am using the latest 2.1 ROM, I9000TGYJH1 (http://www.multiupload.com/UTKSZPTKCG), which the lag problem seems improved a lot. But on top of it, I don't want to waste that 1xxMB of internal RAM, so I introduce this method.
To let user choose what core apps that should be put into NAND so
- space is not wasted.
- certain apps enjoy even faster response time.
lyno said:
What happens if an app in the list is not on the phone, does it just skip it?
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yes.
the script will skip the apps that is not in the list.
MiG123 said:
hmm, would moving to nand make those specific apps run faster than they would be if they were previously running under ext2/3/4 partitions provided for by the various lagfixes out there?
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Definitely, the hardware is multitudes faster.
Where's the file? Can't seem to find it on the first page
Anyhow. Do you symlink the old location to the new location, thus being able to keep the link intact? That should sort out any problems with backup solutions such as Titanium Backup.
How do you find the app's data folder name?
mekwall said:
Where's the file? Can't seem to find it on the first page
Anyhow. Do you symlink the old location to the new location, thus being able to keep the link intact? That should sort out any problems with backup solutions such as Titanium Backup.
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lyno said:
How do you find the app's data folder name?
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mekwall, sorry. removed by mistake.
have uploaded back again now.
yes. it uses symlink method (from Paul's concept) :
ln -s /dbdata/data/appsname /data/data/appsname
i dunno how's Titanium Backup works but it just failed to restore any apps that has used Apps2NAND...
that's why i provide the Uninstallation method to restore it back and then run Titanium Backup to backup all apps and data.
lyno, you may try the Astro File Explorer (market).
It has a function to backup the installed apps out to /sdcard.
The name of the backuped apps will be named exactly the same as it's data folder name.
e.g. Brut's Google Map -> brut.googlemaps.apk
this whoe procedure demands root-access, right?
yes. since it involves moving folders between /dbdata and /data.
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I've a strange question that might or might belong in the development thread, but figured since it's a question, I'll try here first.
I'm using a Stock DeOxed Rooted Rom on my EVO.
I recently installed a few more apps and saw this pesky little warning about low on space.
When I went into my "SystemPanel" app to see how much space was left exactly and noticed that my /data folder only had around 30megs out of it's 428M available.
Ok.. time to delete some apps I thought, but then I noticed that my /system folder (Where I presume pre-installed apps live) had almost 1/3 of it's space still available (115 out of 350megs available).
So I'm wondering.....
Is there some method that I can use to install Apps directly to this folder instead of the standard /data that apps appear to go to when installed?
Is it as simple as moving the APK file with Root Explorer, or are there some under the hood items in apps that prevent this sort of thing?
I've a few rather large apps that I cannot move to the SD card due to widget problems and the like but would be perfect for the system folder if I can find a way to move them there easily.
Thoughts?
DroidGnome said:
I've a strange question that might or might belong in the development thread, but figured since it's a question, I'll try here first.
I'm using a Stock DeOxed Rooted Rom on my EVO.
I recently installed a few more apps and saw this pesky little warning about low on space.
When I went into my "SystemPanel" app to see how much space was left exactly and noticed that my /data folder only had around 30megs out of it's 428M available.
Ok.. time to delete some apps I thought, but then I noticed that my /system folder (Where I presume pre-installed apps live) had almost 1/3 of it's space still available (115 out of 350megs available).
So I'm wondering.....
Is there some method that I can use to install Apps directly to this folder instead of the standard /data that apps appear to go to when installed?
Is it as simple as moving the APK file with Root Explorer, or are there some under the hood items in apps that prevent this sort of thing?
I've a few rather large apps that I cannot move to the SD card due to widget problems and the like but would be perfect for the system folder if I can find a way to move them there easily.
Thoughts?
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/system/app is where system apps are kept. If I remember correctly, any app can be installed into there, but you have to do through flashing an update.zip if I'm remembering properly. You may be able to take the apk that's in /data/app for the app you want to move and move it to /system/app, but I'm not sure if that will work properly or not. Someone who cooks ROMs might know more.
Also, you can partition your sd card and use true apps2sd with most ROMs. Its a little bit of work and will shorten the life of your card, but that gives you a lot more room if you need it.
I don't know that there's a way to move user apps to system. It's very possible there is a way, I've just never seen any posts about it. Apps 2 SD is usually the way to go.
ps. 30 megs?!?! Geez, how many apps do you have?
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Easy peasy
First, use a true apk backup tool to backup e apk files you want to move. Titanium backup will NOT work because it compresses and distorts, and we need true apk files. I recommend file manager by adao team. Just go to applications, check what you want, and hit backup. Next, get the apk files on your computer by mounting sd and copying files from backups folder. You will lose all app data, but what can you do? Next, adb push the files to system app folder while in recovery mode (just say so if you don't know how to do this and i will tell you) and reboot. Done. Tell me if it works well.
By the way, 30 megs???
Doesn't froyo install to the sdcard if you tell it to?
I thought a2sd was obsolete
You can put apps there after changing the folder's permissions but I wouldn't recommend it. Just not a good idea to put regular apps there.
Just install them to your SD card instead
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go into the android app manager and go through all your programs and click on move to sd card...
they will all still occupy some space on your nand, but not nearly as much.
Thanks for the advice, I thought it might not be as easy as moving them, oh well, just seems a shame for there to be over 100 megs I cannot do anything with.
I already had moved all I could to the SD card prior to posting this, but thanks for that advice as well, I'm sure others forget they can do that with Froyo.
As for the 30 megs I had left.. we'll it's back up to about 70 free which should be plenty for a while. (Remember we only have about 420 to start with).
Some of the big ones which could not be moved to the SD card are:
Swype (Deleted, took over 17megs)
TouchDown (12 megs.. must keep for tasks sync sadly)
Google Maps update (7.6 megs)
Documents to go (8megs)
A few various games that cannot yet be moved to the SD card at around 5megs each..
The rest are just lots of little apps.. I'm sort of an app junkie You should have seen my old Palm Centro... it was amazing!
According to Titanium, I currently have 194 'User apps', though I think a few are simply widgets, icon packs and the like.
I noticed some threads for different phones with regard to this but didn't see an answer for the EVO so I'll ask here.
I would like more space on my phone as I'm tired of seeing the little low space hard drive icon. I've already moved all the apps to SD via app2SD. I was thinking of installing the latest rooted stock Sprint ROM (3.70.651.1) and then deleting the stock apps that I do not use but I have read elsewhere that this will, in fact, not free up any more space for applications. Is this true?
If so, can I get a recommendation for the "most stock" ROM that's stripped of the Sprint added apps. If it has some ubiquitous and useful add-ons than that is OK
Thanks!
There's a couple of ROMs in the Dev section that are optimized for speed, and I'd recommend those. A lot of them have them already removed, but you can remove the ones that aren't
Thanks for the response... I apologize if I didn't state my question correctly. I understand that I can remove the apps that I want if I'm rooted, what I'm not sure about is if that space will be made available for other applications when I do remove the programs (in ROM) that I do not want.
Hope that clarifies the question.
Wayno-san said:
Thanks for the response... I apologize if I didn't state my question correctly. I understand that I can remove the apps that I want if I'm rooted, what I'm not sure about is if that space will be made available for other applications when I do remove the programs (in ROM) that I do not want.
Hope that clarifies the question.
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A small amount of space will be freed. If you move Dalvik Cache to the Cache partition this will free up a lot more space than removing apps.
leenypost said:
A small amount of space will be freed. If you move Dalvik Cache to the Cache partition this will free up a lot more space than removing apps.
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That sounds intriguing... can you point me to a "how-to" link or someplace where I can learn more about how to do this?
Wayno-san said:
That sounds intriguing... can you point me to a "how-to" link or someplace where I can learn more about how to do this?
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Search on XDA for "move dalvik to cache". There should be a zip file you can download that will do it for you.
Thanks again for the info. I did as you suggested and now have 266 MB left where before I had less than 50. Using ap2sd with Azrael ROM and do far have not run into any issues. Keeping my fingers crossed.
Note, however, that most of the stock apps are in your system partition. The free space you care about for installing apps is in the data partition. So removing them doesn't free up the space you care about. Even on ROMs that have removed them, I'm not sure if they actually do (or can) resize the partitions to give you the space where it counts (/data).
You can, however, move apps to the system partition if you want. I've done this with some of the updates to stock apps -- GMail, Qik, and Flash, for example. That's freed some space up.
bkrodgers said:
You can, however, move apps to the system partition if you want. I've done this with some of the updates to stock apps -- GMail, Qik, and Flash, for example. That's freed some space up.
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This sounds like it is worthwhile to learn how to do. Is there a thread or program that you could point me to for some guidance on how to do this?
I've also read that ap2sd can move programs that have not yet been modified to enable the regular android 2.2 "move to SD" function to work; but after flashing that app and using it to move the Dalvik cache I do see any obvious front-end for it.
Wayno-san said:
This sounds like it is worthwhile to learn how to do. Is there a thread or program that you could point me to for some guidance on how to do this?
I've also read that ap2sd can move programs that have not yet been modified to enable the regular android 2.2 "move to SD" function to work; but after flashing that app and using it to move the Dalvik cache I do see any obvious front-end for it.
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Basically you just move the APK file from /data/app to /system/app using ES File Explorer (need to enable root mode in prefs) or Root Explorer. Or you can do it with adb or even terminal emulator on the phone if you prefer. I think Titanium Backup Pro (the paid version) has an ability to do this too. You also want to look in /system/app and see if there's an older version under some other name that should be deleted. Titanium Pro may handle this part for you automatically as well. I haven't bought it yet, so I'm not sure (though I plan to, the free version is great and the paid version adds some nice things). I think you can still get updates from the market after you've done this, but the update will go to /data/app. You'd need to move it and delete the prior version again after receiving such an update.
I haven't enabled a2sd yet. My understanding is that it's not so much something you need a front end for. Once you set it up, that's just where your apps go. You don't move your apps to the sd card manually. I could be wrong. I used whatever form of a2sd was available for XDAndroid on my old Touch, but that's been a little while and the DarkStar A2SD that people use might be a little different than that method. I haven't done it at all yet on the evo.
Thank you sir, that's very good info and I'll give it a shot.
I've been wanting to make a larger /data partition on a Droid Incredible. I mean, after all, it comes with a lot of storage. But there is not nearly enough for apps. Sure. I can use my SD card. But unless there is something I'm not aware of, you can only install some apps to the SD and even when you do, pieces of that app still exist in /data. But what's even worse is the fact that I already use my SD card for movies and videos and such and I just don't really use the unclaimed space of which there is plenty, in the phone, for that sort of thing and yet I can't use it to install apps. I haven't found too much on this topic outside of using App2SD. I did find a lot of talk of using parted and even gparted. But this talk is generally about partitioning your SD card. If I were to use parted or gparted to resize the /data partition at the expense of another partition's space and I did it properly, would the Android system not boot because of it? And if this is doable, is there a better, easier way to do it than using parted and adb or gparted? Also, is there a guide for resizing your /data partition? I could probably survive without one if I had to but it would really be helpful just in case there are some big DO NOT DO's that should be avoided that aren't obvious. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
enigmatl said:
I've been wanting to make a larger /data partition on a Droid Incredible. I mean, after all, it comes with a lot of storage. But there is not nearly enough for apps. Sure. I can use my SD card. But unless there is something I'm not aware of, you can only install some apps to the SD and even when you do, pieces of that app still exist in /data. But what's even worse is the fact that I already use my SD card for movies and videos and such and I just don't really use the unclaimed space of which there is plenty, in the phone, for that sort of thing and yet I can't use it to install apps. I haven't found too much on this topic outside of using App2SD. I did find a lot of talk of using parted and even gparted. But this talk is generally about partitioning your SD card. If I were to use parted or gparted to resize the /data partition at the expense of another partition's space and I did it properly, would the Android system not boot because of it? And if this is doable, is there a better, easier way to do it than using parted and adb or gparted? Also, is there a guide for resizing your /data partition? I could probably survive without one if I had to but it would really be helpful just in case there are some big DO NOT DO's that should be avoided that aren't obvious. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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theres around 780mb in there thats not enough?
JoelZ9614 said:
theres around 780mb in there thats not enough?
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He's talking about /data/data/ which is like 150mb, I use the NotEnoughSpace app it lets you store data on cache, emmc, sd card, you should check it out.
Well, I messed with notenoughspace too which was my eason for posting. This was the app that made me say enough is enough, can I just resize /data/data?.
-1- So much space on the incredible is going to waste while programs such as these would have me put apps on the SD where I really do want space for my other stuff like music and movies.
-2- Unless I missed a button or option, NotEnoughSpace came off as annoying to me. I would go into apps and wait for a minute for it to scan every time I do it and then I pick an app, for example Beejive. It makes me move it ONE FILE AT A TIME. And even then, there is stuff you can't move. Can I not just move the app, all of it in one click?
But most importantly, I just want more space on /data/data. I want to resize the partition. The phone has what, 8 gigs on it and allows 150 mb for apps in there which is just crazy.
Can I resize the partition where apps are stored (/data/data) by way of parted or gparted? to avoid the annoyance of using my external storage which I want to use for movies and music? There's probably 6 or so gigs on my phone I'll never use for media that should be meant for apps.
Has anybody resized the data partition? Are there consequences to doing it if it's done properly? Is there a guide? What is the easiest way to do this? Any help would be appreciated.
enigmatl said:
Well, I messed with notenoughspace too which was my eason for posting. This was the app that made me say enough is enough, can I just resize /data/data?.
-1- So much space on the incredible is going to waste while programs such as these would have me put apps on the SD where I really do want space for my other stuff like music and movies.
-2- Unless I missed a button or option, NotEnoughSpace came off as annoying to me. I would go into apps and wait for a minute for it to scan every time I do it and then I pick an app, for example Beejive. It makes me move it ONE FILE AT A TIME. And even then, there is stuff you can't move. Can I not just move the app, all of it in one click?
But most importantly, I just want more space on /data/data. I want to resize the partition. The phone has what, 8 gigs on it and allows 150 mb for apps in there which is just crazy.
Can I resize the partition where apps are stored (/data/data) by way of parted or gparted? to avoid the annoyance of using my external storage which I want to use for movies and music? There's probably 6 or so gigs on my phone I'll never use for media that should be meant for apps.
Has anybody resized the data partition? Are there consequences to doing it if it's done properly? Is there a guide? What is the easiest way to do this? Any help would be appreciated.
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Ask conap hes good with this type of thing
Making progress but still need help.
There's some talk on the net that you can modify the size of the .img files that nandroid makes and simply flash them back to your phone.
Problem is, I can't find a windows way to do it on the net. The closest that I've come is a program called toporesize. This program will let you open files such as data.img from your nandroid backup. But you can't resize them because you get an error box that says this appears to not be an ext* filesystem. Check size file only to resize the file or use other tools. I'm assuming that means it wants you to check a button that says resize file only no resize2fs. In the one guide I found that talks about this app, it says do not check this box. So I'm assuming if you did, it would work and then when you flashed the file back to your phone, it would either not boot or the size would not be changed properly.
I also noted that there's a thread or two that has posted some custom sized data.img files for download. I would do this as a last resort but would prefer to resize my own data.img for a more precise choice of how large I want it.
The error mentions other tools. Are there other tools or programs for Windows users?
Does anybody have any insight on resizing the /data/data partition either by this method, by using parted/gparted, or any other method that works effectively?
I would avoid trying to alter the size of the partitions on your phone. That is how you end up with a brick. There are other ways including finding out which apps are taking up all of your space. 150 MB does not sound like a lot, but it is considering what is stored there.
Go into Manage Applications and click on the All tab. Then press the menu key and sort by size. Click on the apps near the top with anything higher than 3 or 4 MB. Look at the details in the storage section for each app. You will see a Data line item. If it is really high in proportion of the size of the Application, you should clear it. That will save you a lot of space.
In the case of the Mail app or other social networking apps like Facebook or Twitter, you can go into the settings and restrict how much data is stored on the phone. They can really eat up space by downloading a month of emails, etc ...
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I would avoid trying to alter the size of the partitions on your phone. That is how you end up with a brick. There are other ways including finding out which apps are taking up all of your space. 150 MB does not sound like a lot, but it is considering what is stored there.
Go into Manage Applications and click on the All tab. Then press the menu key and sort by size. Click on the apps near the top with anything higher than 3 or 4 MB. Look at the details in the storage section for each app. You will see a Data line item. If it is really high in proportion of the size of the Application, you should clear it. That will save you a lot of space.
In the case of the Mail app or other social networking apps like Facebook or Twitter, you can go into the settings and restrict how much data is stored on the phone. They can really eat up space by downloading a month of emails, etc ...
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This request is meant with respect and NOT as a flame but I have to make this request so others don't follow and potentially change the thread into a debate on whether to resize or not resize the partition.
Please let's not start talking about whether this is a good idea or not nor if doing this can make our phone into a brick. Now that it's been said, those lurking and considering this for themselves can make up their own minds. But there are a lot of things talked about throughout XDA that can make your phone into a brick yet things are done in the name of making our devices better.
And yes. We can take action to reduce the amount of data that apps are taking up. To tell you the truth, I would do that even if I had a 1GB partition. I think always saving space when space can be saved is a good idea.
But just in principle, I and probably others want to reclaim that space on our phones that will never be used by anything. Maybe HTC allocated the space as it's allocated because some users won't use an SD card and will then use that space for their media and other miscellaneous stuff.
But once you have an SD card that's way bigger than the extra space on your phone, it becomes pointless to use that space on your phone for media. So I want it available for data.
So both sides of whether to do this or not have now been posed. I ask can we please get back to the topic of how to though I do thank you for your input.
That said, again, does anybody know how to resize your data partition whether by doing it live with parted or gparted or by editing the data.img file that nandroid via clockwork mod puts out? I would really appreciate it.
I tried making a nandroid backup of the phone through clockworkmod, sending the data.img file to my computer, using toporesize to resize it. And by the way, I was forced to check the resize file only no resize2fs button as not doing this generated an error. I then used md5sum to get an md5sum for the new data.img. I then inserted the md5sum in clockwork/nandroid's nandroid.md5 file (with a linux file compatable text editor). I then sent the entire backup back to the phone in a different clockworkmod/backup folder, used rom manager to restore, selected the new resized backup.
After the flashing was complete, I went into my phone only to find that the data partition still had the same amount free (give or take a few K). I wondered if that's because I had to shrink the system file? I was thinking before I started that it's probable that I would have to shrink another partition that had free space so I chose system. I attempted to repeat the above steps from the beginning this time with the plan of shrinking system.img.
No go. toporesize will not shrink it properly. Errors are reported in the process though when I reload it into toporesize, it looks like it has the size I want. Knowing it would probably fail, I tried to continue anyway. Even with the correct md5sum, nandroid won't even start the recovery of that set. You get a status bar for a second and then, the phone just reboots.
So for now, I'm at a loss but I know this can be done.
Whether using this method or another, does anybody know how to properly change the size of the data partition using WINDOWS?
Don't come crying when you brick it.
ihtfp69 said:
Don't come crying when you brick it.
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I have no intentions of such. -1- I will quite likely never brick it as nandroid pretty much has me covered. But if I do, -2- I don't plan on having this phone forever. It's not new any more. There are already several models that are better than the droid incredible that I'm looking at. If I were to brick this phone, yay. Good excuse to buy a new phone. But, odds are, i'll never brick it and come November or December, I'll buy something else anyhow.
So please, this isn't about the risks, of course you can brick your phone trying this or many other things on XDA.
Does anyone know how to resize the data partition using any method that can be done with the help of a Windows machine?
This is a fundamental change to a very sensitive area you have
276 mb for the system rom and 748mb for user apps.Many rom devs seem to be straining to keep the rom below 200mb and it is amazingly easy to fill up 748 mb with little apps.
I would think if it were possible to do this it would have been done by the rom devs first thing. I would love to see a rom dev bump this to 500mb and 1024mb.
Chances are to re partition the partitions on the phones memory is not possible with out a hboot flash or something of a custom bootloader...
I find removing these help... Also i use handcent and gmail.app instead of the stock apps...
friendstream
peep
twitter
flicker
stocks app
facebook
748 mb? I only have 150 available in /data/data. How do you get 748?
enigmatl said:
748 mb? I only have 150 available in /data/data. How do you get 748?
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748mb is the size of the entire /data partition what us devs are doing with the new roms is symlinking things to the /system from /data i've managed to do it without symlinking but it bring the /system to its limits and thats usually not good to do
enigmatl said:
748 mb? I only have 150 available in /data/data. How do you get 748?
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In my /data/data i have 95.96 MB free
rom 35MB free
app space 212 MB free
internal 6.44GB free
Also /data/data is a different partition than /data so the 150 is not included as part of the 748.
Resize /data/data partition - Update?
Did you ever find a solution to resizing the HTC Incredible's partitions?
I too am fed up with having to constantly clear caches and uninstalled apps, just because the tiny 150MB partition fills up. It's been a problem since my wife and I bought our phones.
I expect it would have to be done by a custom bootloader, but thought I would check and see if you had any success.
If nandroid recreates the partition tables based on the sizes of the .img partition backups, then they could probably be resized by mounting the .IMG files directly under Linux and using Linux tools to resize each one - or - creating a new .img partition of the new size(s), mount the backups and copy everything over to the new one, unmount it and go from there?
Steve
Have you used the Ext4 mod created by Tiny and Jermaine151?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623038
...and the following is the original thread which has the details of what exactly the mod does:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315372
If I'm reading this (outdated) thread correctly, this mod is what you're looking for in regards to partitioning /data/data. The second link is provided in the OP of my first link.
SlimSnoopOS said:
Have you used the Ext4 mod created by Tiny and Jermaine151?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623038
...and the following is the original thread which has the details of what exactly the mod does:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315372
If I'm reading this (outdated) thread correctly, this mod is what you're looking for in regards to partitioning /data/data. The second link is provided in the OP of my first link.
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What he said ^^^^
Just do it.
Does anyone know if any scripts are executed (or can be executed) when the SD card is mounted? Of course this would include on boot.
What I am trying to accomplish is that I would like to mount in a second path the fat32 external partition as the system user (with an appropriate umask) so that I can symlink data from the /data/app directory. I don't mind copying the .apk files and just symlinking them individually; I currently have over 5GB of files there, so I know it should really help with saving space. And, this way I can still take advantage of the space as is, rather than losing it all to a directory symlink.
I don't mind resymlinking once in a while after I add/remove some software. I am a long time Linux user (personally and professionally) so a little command line doesn't scare me one bit.
I thought I should mention that I am currently using LRS G Pad, so a solution that works on stock (or stock-like) ROMs is preferred, though I am curious what a custom ROM can buy me in this area also.
Thank you for your help!
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Does anyone know if any scripts are executed (or can be executed) when the SD card is mounted? Of course this would include on boot.
What I am trying to accomplish is that I would like to mount in a second path the fat32 external partition as the system user (with an appropriate umask) so that I can symlink data from the /data/app directory. I don't mind copying the .apk files and just symlinking them individually; I currently have over 5GB of files there, so I know it should really help with saving space. And, this way I can still take advantage of the space as is, rather than losing it all to a directory symlink.
I don't mind resymlinking once in a while after I add/remove some software. I am a long time Linux user (personally and professionally) so a little command line doesn't scare me one bit.
I thought I should mention that I am currently using LRS G Pad, so a solution that works on stock (or stock-like) ROMs is preferred, though I am curious what a custom ROM can buy me in this area also.
Thank you for your help!
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Maybe take a look at tasker to initiate a command. I too had hoped to use a Linux command for a different reason, only to find everything to be different enough to be a problem. Tasker will allow the command, but knowing where to put it will be the problem. Writing a script that recognizes "fuse" initiation, outing it in init.d, and then using tasker to initiate the script?
Maybe just tasker, as you can write simple one liners for different tasks(turning things off and on with a simple path).
Doing this from the kernel ramdisk would probably be better.
Please describe exactly how you do this if you figure it out please!
Best regards,