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Life after simpleroot?

Hey guys I just finished runny simple root OTA edition. Everything went well and now I'm rooted. I am running into a couple of questions now.
1. Whats happens now? I'm rooted now how do i get those nice custom roms onto my phone?
2. I purchased ROM Manager because baked snacks rom says it was necessary for install but i can't get it to install clockwork mod, it keeps saying something about error running privileged commands.
3. How do I go back to stock ROM I'm starting to feel like I might be over my head at this point.
Thanks for your help guys.

I'm in the same boat. The two main reasons for rooting was for a new ROM and to use it as a hot spot (which so far I haven't been able to do.)
ROM Manager gives me the same error message about clockwork. Also, I would like to stop paying the $30 a month for the hot spot, so any help in that area would be appreciated.
Darrell

Keep at it!
loztboy said:
Hey guys I just finished runny simple root OTA edition. Everything went well and now I'm rooted. I am running into a couple of questions now.
1. Whats happens now? I'm rooted now how do i get those nice custom roms onto my phone?
2. I purchased ROM Manager because baked snacks rom says it was necessary for install but i can't get it to install clockwork mod, it keeps saying something about error running privileged commands.
3. How do I go back to stock ROM I'm starting to feel like I might be over my head at this point.
Thanks for your help guys.
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0. Please read everything before doing anything. My post is a little chaotic, but you should be fine if you read everything first.
1/2. The usual disclaimer: I'm not telling you to do anything. I'm just providing information. I'm not liable for anything you do to you phone.
1. ROM Manager is definitely the easiest way, though the "real way" is to load your ROM of choice on the SD card and then flash it from Recovery (more on recovery later).
1 & 1/2. By the way, you should install Titanium backup from the market five minutes ago. Yes, it is that important. When jumping ROMs, you often have to wipe everything out. Without Titanium Backup, you could end up having to repurchase apps and redownload all of your free ones, losing progress in games and settings in apps, etc. The free version of Titanium Backup lets you back up easily enough, but you want the donate version to prevent restores from taking a few hours of user interaction (Yes, I said user interaction, meaning sitting there and pressing buttons for hours). Once you throw $4.00-$50.00 (you can pick within that range, you get the same product regardless of amount) at Titanium Backup (and wait a day or so to get the license key file), you can do a restore in 15 min without any interaction beyond hitting start (or, more accurately, begin batch process). This app has saved my life time and time again. I literally did my first backup out of curiosity for the app and then totaled my phone in the next five minuets. It even backs up your home screen layout. GET IT NOW!!! YOU WILL HATE YOURSELF IF YOU DO NOT GET IT!!! At least get the free version, because, as stated above, it does backups fine. You (like me) will be scared into paying when you realize that you just wreaked everything and really don't want to spend the next few hours restoring. However, Titanium backup will not function until you get Superuser app working, as detailed in point 2 below.
***EDIT: I forgot to mention that Titanium Backup should work after running this program. It should even fix clockwork for you***
2. There are three possibilities for that error: 1: You don't have the superuser app installed. It dishes out the privileges. If you don't have it (if you do go on to potential issue number two and be grateful), you can install it by downloading this file and putting it on the root of the SD card. Then boot into recovery (I'm sure there is a tutorial for getting into recovery floating around here somewhere, just search the EVO section) and flash the .zip Presto! Superuser app is installed. If you prefer not to go around flashing random packages recommended by strangers on the internet, you can research and download superuser app at the source 2: If you found the Superuser app in the app drawer (the screen with all the applications where you scroll down in alphabetical order and pick the one you want to use), open it. You may have bumped "never give superuser access to this app" (or words to that effect) the first time you opened ROM Manager. If so, it will be listed in the Superuser app
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
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as red. Just have the superuser app forget ROM Manager and then try to flash custom recovery from within the ROM Manager again, being sure to say "Yes!" when it asks for superuser privileges. 3: If you have no recovery to flash superuser from or superuser is installed and ROM Manager is green inside and it still fails, the SimpleRoot failed. If you skipped a step in the rooting process, go back and do that step. If not, just start over and run all the steps from the beginning, Also note that if you accepted the over the air update, you need the OTA version of SimpleRoot, not the original one.
3. Now, about total reversal. I'll be honest: There is probably a way to go back to stock that works without finishing the root process (probably something to do with PC36IMG.zip) files, but I don't know it. The way I would do it would be picking the OTA Stock ROM from this page and flashing it after getting recovery installed at the end of a successful root process. However, then you would have succeed in your original endeavor and would have no need to go back. There is a program here that supposedly does just enough tweaking to the phone to give you the recovery you need to flash back to the stock ROM, but I have not used it myself and therefore cannot vouch for it.
dws51 said:
I'm in the same boat. The two main reasons for rooting was for a new ROM and to use it as a hot spot (which so far I haven't been able to do.)
ROM Manager gives me the same error message about clockwork. Also, I would like to stop paying the $30 a month for the hot spot, so any help in that area would be appreciated.
Darrell
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If you both succeed in the root process (and I encourage you to persevere, the reward is spectacular), I personally recommend Cyanogen Mod 6. I believe that you can get the nightly builds of CM6 from ROM manager, but the release candidate is likely more stable. I use the RC myself and have never looked back. My battery lasts forever and my phone is never unresponsive. And because the CM6 ROM is based of of Android 2.2 (Froyo), free tethering is built in to the OS and done so rather elegantly, meaning no more dirty hacks for tethering. Just know that if you go that route, though you have the best of the best, you will need to tinker a bit to get everything working. Also, 4G, the FM Radio, and HDMI output are flat out not working in the RC (I'm sure they will be fully functional in the final release, and the not-workedness is a software thing, meaning that the hardware is fine and will come online when you again install a ROM that supports it). On the other hand, with this ROM you can force the phone to roam on Verizon's network when Sprint's 3G speeds are less than desirable.
I'm not sure where to put this, so I'm sticking it here. As soon as you get custom recovery working, you want to backup with Nandroid. The easiest way is from ROM Manager. Just hit "Backup ROM". This backs up not only your setup (like Titanium Backup), but also all the crucial bits that lie underneath and keep your EVOs humming, bits very very difficult to replace. HOWEVER, this is NOT a replacement for Titanium Backup, because it can only restore to the same ROM. If you attempt to restore to a different one, it will put the one you had at the time of the backup back on.
Whichever way you go, I wish the both of you luck. You're entering into the wild and wonderful world of devices that you actually own!

that was a great post im in the same boat as those guys above and im sure we are not the only ones, when you say put the file on the root of the sd card what is the root of the sd card? if i dont know that should i just not even be rooting?
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I just downloaded rom manager and i get the same response " an error occurred while attempting to run priviliged commands" i went through the root process and it said i was rooted, i read earlier that to check it i was rooted and nand unlocked that if i checked my hboot and it was 0.76 i was rooted and nand unlocked if i was 0.79 the root didnt work i was .76. Is there a different way to check if my root went through

The root of the SD card is the 'directory' you're in when you plug the card into the computer & you see folders like ".Mail" "Android" "DCIM" etc.
It's up to you if you think you can handle rooting. I used SimpleRoot & it was incredibly easy, but i have been familiar with modding phones for awhile now.

jdjozwia said:
that was a great post im in the same boat as those guys above and im sure we are not the only ones, when you say put the file on the root of the sd card what is the root of the sd card? if i dont know that should i just not even be rooting?
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I just downloaded rom manager and i get the same response " an error occurred while attempting to run priviliged commands" i went through the root process and it said i was rooted, i read earlier that to check it i was rooted and nand unlocked that if i checked my hboot and it was 0.76 i was rooted and nand unlocked if i was 0.79 the root didnt work i was .76. Is there a different way to check if my root went through
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The root of something simply means not in a folder, e.g. on your computer it would be just G:/ (or whatever letter your SD card is mounted to). Just open the SD card and put whichever file you are referencing right there, not in any folder.
By the way, anyone can root, so long as you are willing to learn and willing to take a few risks. As long as you stay well informed, you usually don't break anything. And there is usually a way out, even if you make a train wreak, though it may be ugly. Independent developers (not me; smart people like Cyanogen and Toast who actually make these awesome ROMs and roots) have a better track record for keeping dangerous stuff out than some corporations. ***Cough***McAfee antivirus broke thousands of computers with a defective update***Cough*** Scientia est vox. Knowledge is power. Know what you're doing, and you'll be fine. You will make mistakes (I know I have), but stay sharp and know the consequences, how to go back, who to ask when things go South, and you'll do alright. The community here at XDA is one of the best and most helpful I have ever seen. If you're not totally hosed, someone will pull you out of the fire. It probably won't even be me. I'm no pro. But there is no shortage of pros here at XDA.

so what would you guys say the next step for me is, should i just do the simple root over? how can i check to see if im rooted? and what should i do about this rom manager giving me trouble with flashing the clockwork mod

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jdjozwia said:
so what would you guys say the next step for me is, should i just do the simple root over? how can i check to see if im rooted? and what should i do about this rom manager giving me trouble with flashing the clockwork mod
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If titanium backup works, you have root. As for Clockwork, please see my first post, where I went over it in detail.

OK well i installed titanium back up and busy box and it looks like im rooted? Im going to try to flash that superuser app tmw i left my usb cord at work so in about 12 hours ill probly be back with more questions
thanks for the encouragement the answers and most of all your time

Cut the cord
jdjozwia said:
i left my usb cord at work
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It's personal preference, but there is a throughly cool free app called Awesome Drop that lets you send files without a cable. When you use it, files end up in the /drop directory on your phone. If necessary, you can move them out with a program like Astro File Manager.
By the way, Titanium backup shouldn't work without SU app, so I'm wondering if you do in fact have it. Have you looked through the S section of the App Drawer?

Techrocket9 said:
It's personal preference, but there is a throughly cool free app called Awesome Drop that lets you send files without a cable. When you use it, files end up in the /drop directory on your phone. If necessary, you can move them out with a program like Astro File Manager.
By the way, Titanium backup shouldn't work without SU app, so I'm wondering if you do in fact have it. Have you looked through the S section of the App Drawer?
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I just went through my S' and all i have are the ones that came with the phone no super user but when u say it shouldnt work what should happen when i open the app?

jdjozwia said:
I just went through my S' and all i have are the ones that came with the phone no super user but when u say it shouldnt work what should happen when i open the app?
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It should complain about being unable to acquire root privileges.
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yeah when i open it it doesnt say that and it says my root access is ok,
I DL astro and when i open it one of the folders is clockwork mod and if i search i find super user app on my sd card when i reboot my phone by holding the down volume it goes to the hboot screen and askes me if i want to update my phone i say no and then when i go to recovery it does not give me the option to flash the super user app. it takes me to android system recovery with four options. At the very bottom it says E: cant open/cache/recovery/command
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Is one option to flash zip from SD card?
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How to check if you are root: Assuming you have ADB installed (you used simpleroot so, possibly not) just type "adb shell" into a command prompt. If it comes up with a "#" you are root, if it comes up with "$" type "su" and hit enter, if it switches to a "#" you are rooted. Also you can get a terminal emulator app (I love Better Terminal Emulator) and open it, type "su" and see if it gives you "#".
Did you do the SimpleRoot step where you replaced the recovery with your recovery of choice? I know more than one person that didn't do that step. Though the app should at least still TRY to reboot.
As said before, check your SuperUser permissions to make sure you didn't disallow Rom Manager.
As for CM6, don't get me wrong, I LOVE CM6, but, Fresh 1.0.1 or the latest Damage Control might be a safer bet. For your first rom CM6 needs more coaxing than you might like. Also tethering is installed by default in the 2.1 roms from those guys and it's (imho) easier and more obvious to use.
Keep at it, there will be times you feel like giving up even after you get past this point, just don't take it too seriously and remember that as long as you are still getting phonecalls your phone is still doing it's primary job, the rest is just icing. Icing that gets more delicious with time, like beer, mmmmmm beer.
Where was I?
Oh yeah, good luck!

Crap, forgot, when someone says "put it on the root of the SD card" the easiest way to do that is hook it up via USB, hit the status tray that says "usb connected" and check the Hard Drive option. Then just copy your file to the new drive that will show up in windows (might pop up automatically depending on your windows settings) and boom, it's on the root of the SD card.
As for the "real" way to flash. Do the above, putting the .zip file containing whatever rom you want (for instance CM6, or Fresh 1.0.1 which you can obtain over in Development forum from their respective posts) on the root of the SD card. Safely remove the device (on windows it will be in your status bar, usually looks like a plug with a green arrow, click it, choose Mass Storage Device and then hit Stop, it will tell you when its done, make sure you have the folder closed before you do this or it will grump at you) and switch back over to Charge Only on your phone. Then power off the phone (hold the power button with the phone unlocked, choose Power Off, then Ok) and hold the volume down button. Then press power, don't let go of volume down but you don't have to hold power, just press it to turn it on. A white screen should come up, let go of the volume button, and one option will be Recovery. Use volume up and down to select it and press the power button to select. It should then boot you into recovery which should have an option to "wipe", you want to wipe dalvik cache, then cache, then factory defaults. Then go back up (in AmonRA that means hitting vol-up and vol-down at the same time), then goto "Flash .zip from sdcard" select it, hit power, select the zip file, power again, power one more time to confirm.
Once it's done you hit Reboot System Now and viola, first boot takes FOREVER so don't fret.

alcaron said:
How to check if you are root: Assuming you have ADB installed (you used simpleroot so, possibly not) just type "adb shell" into a command prompt. If it comes up with a "#" you are root, if it comes up with "$" type "su" and hit enter, if it switches to a "#" you are rooted. Also you can get a terminal emulator app (I love Better Terminal Emulator) and open it, type "su" and see if it gives you "#".
Did you do the SimpleRoot step where you replaced the recovery with your recovery of choice? I know more than one person that didn't do that step. Though the app should at least still TRY to reboot.
As said before, check your SuperUser permissions to make sure you didn't disallow Rom Manager.
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where exactly do i type adb shell? when i did the simple root i do not remember replacing my recovery with a recovery of my choice so thats probly where my problem is and i do not know how to check my superuser permissions
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Techrocket9 said:
Is one option to flash zip from SD card?
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no the option i get is update to zip and when i click that it does stuff for me and i cannot choose a file i think my problem lies to not choosing what recovery i wanted?

jdjozwia said:
no the option i get is update to zip and when i click that it does stuff for me and i cannot choose a file i think my problem lies to not choosing what recovery i wanted?
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It is possible. The program I mentioned earlier (unrEVOked) should install a custom recovery for you. I can't put a link in this post because I'm on my phone, but a quick google search should find it.
An army of pacifists can be defeated by one man with the will to fight.

jdjozwia said:
alcaron said:
How to check if you are root: Assuming you have ADB installed (you used simpleroot so, possibly not) just type "adb shell" into a command prompt. If it comes up with a "#" you are root, if it comes up with "$" type "su" and hit enter, if it switches to a "#" you are rooted. Also you can get a terminal emulator app (I love Better Terminal Emulator) and open it, type "su" and see if it gives you "#".
Did you do the SimpleRoot step where you replaced the recovery with your recovery of choice? I know more than one person that didn't do that step. Though the app should at least still TRY to reboot.
As said before, check your SuperUser permissions to make sure you didn't disallow Rom Manager.
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where exactly do i type adb shell? when i did the simple root i do not remember replacing my recovery with a recovery of my choice so thats probly where my problem is and i do not know how to check my superuser permissions
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If you just did SimpleRoot (i.e. didn't download the android SDK) you probably don't have ADB installed on your PC. So then you'd want to go the terminal route. Search the market for Better Terminal Emulator
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[SOLVED] Superuser Request doesn't "remember"

[SOLVED, see below].
I've also attached the Su flashable zip to this post, as linked below
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I recently rooted my Desire using unrevoked 3.2.1 Basically, no problems so far.
However, when I have tried to run a few Apps that require ROOT access, the Superuser pop-up screen shows, EVERY TIME.
I have clicked Allow, and made sure to check "Remember", but it comes back every time for the same Apps.
I have double-checked that the Apps requesting Superuser permissions are indeed in the Superuser.apk list for Allow. They are, little green dot and all, but it doesn't seem to matter.
I tried a Batch routine in Titanium Backup, and I had to click that damn Allow button like 150 times!
Does anyone have any idea what's going here? Anyone experienced the same thing?
I wonder if it is related to what mortenmhp mentioned over in this post (post 3, "Cant remove Stock apps? Root Explorer and Unrevoked3"; sorry, I can't link yet)...
the fact that unrevoked3 still does not achieve S-OFF HBOOT and thus doesn't r/w to /system.

Btw. the thread mentioned:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8324672#post8324672
Your problem should not have to do with this though.
The superuser app stores it's list on the data partition, and it should be able to grant su access to anything apart from rw to the protected partitions.
First off:
- Does it happen to all apps requesting su?
- Which version of superuser are you currently using?
- How did you get it? Like was it included in a rom or did you install it by flashing superuser only?
- If included in a rom, which?
And finally. You should start by trying to clear the data associated with the superuser app:
"settings -> applications -> application list* -> Superuser -> clear data button"
*I dont remember the exact name, and the charger for my desire is gone for now
If it does not work, you should also try to do a nandroid backup and a factory reset by wiping the data partition to see, if it doesn't fix it.

Thanks for your response, let me see if I can fill in some of the details:
Yes, it happens AFAIK for ALL Apps requesting Superuser access
Version: Superuser v2.3.6.1 - Added c...
Database version 5
(From the info at the bottom of the Superuser>Settings menu)
IIRC, I may have installed the App myself from the Market...? Is that even possible? Honestly, I may have jumped ahead of my knowledge in this one area. But I'm certain it wasn't from any flashing, unless unrevoked adds the App itself.
ROM, Froyo w/ HTC OTA Sept. update
I rooted with unrevoked3.2.1, but haven't flashed anything
(other than the Clockwork Mod as part of unrevoked, and, the ?re-flash? of Clockwork via ROM Manager)
The most noticeable example of this problem is Titanium Backup; I have to click Allow 14 times each time I open the App. And it is clearly listed in the Superuser List, with a green dot.
UPDATE: It is definitely possible to install this App directly from the Market, as I just re-did it. Then I Rebooted, but it all made no difference, still have 14 Allows in order to launch Titanium Backup

Results
Alright, I tried to "Clear Data", and then I did a reboot for good measure. It did NOT work.
The Superuser list was blank, but as soon as I started Titanium, I had to do the same 14 Allows. The Titanium>Log clearly shows each of them, but it's like the fact that the setting is "Remembered" doesn't have any effect.
I guess I can try the Nandroid back-up/wipe, but that just seems to be in the "format and reinstall Windows" family of solutions (no offense).

Other observation
Here's something else I noticed, may or may not be related.
I have Spare Parts installed, and I was testing the different settings.
First, Reboot/Recovery options ask for Superuser access, but then nothing happens, it just returns to the Spare Parts menu.
I'm interested in "upgrading" my boot animation (I have another thread about that), so I also tried the LeoFroyo Addon of Bootanimation>LeoFroYo BIOS
It Requested Superuser access, delayed while "Working...", and then asked to Reboot. When I clicked Yes, nothing. Just went back to the Spare Parts menu. When I rebooted manually, the stock HTC animation is still what I got.
Relaunching Spare Parts confirmed that the bootanimation setting was still on the upgrade, it apparently just didn't work.
The reason I mention these things is because I wonder if possibly I haven't achieved all the ROOT access that maybe I should have???

Any other thoughts? I'm not sure what else to try, but I can provide any other details that would be useful.
Maybe I'm just fighting a pointless losing battle on this, since I plan to flash to Cyanogen anyway. But it just find it irksome that I can't find a solution to a relatively straightforward issue.

It is because you cannot just install the superuser app from the market, because it needs root in the first place. This might just be your problem. I cant find the update.zip only including superuser right now, so if you want cm anyway, I would just go for it. Otherwise you will have to search for a zip file only including the superuser files or another rom with it included.
edit: and sorry for not replying but i have school as well
edit 2: This should be the zip file to flash to get superuser only hope you can get it to work.

Success
Yessir! That did it.
I think you're right. Don't know what I read to carelessly make me think I could just download Superuser from the Market. Actually, I'm not even too sure why its on there, since it CANNOT work if you install it that way.
I guess when I installed Superuser to grant ROOT permissions, I didn't have ROOT permissions. So, Superuser could grant other Apps ROOT (which did work), but it didn't have ROOT itself to store the Allow list. How ironic.
When I get to a computer, I'll add that linked zip as an attachment to this thread, along with some flashing Instructions in case anyone else is less familiar.
It must be pretty uncommon to do the work to get ROOT and then not flash a custom ROM with Superuser built in.
Thanks for your help. All glory to mortenmhp

okay, i was stupid. this fixed the problem for me too! thanks a lot.

Thank god for this thread
Had same problem
solved for me
And for now, i just want su, no custom rom, they seem to be sometimes unstable
Guide for dummies
just in case(copied),
Transfer this zip file file to your SD card. Remember where you saved it.
Reboot the phone into Recovery
(Boot the phone by holding down either the circle button or Volume Down button, then press the Power button. Select Recovery from the menu. (You can navigate the menus with the volume button, and make selections with the round button thingy).)
Select Install zip from SD card and navigate to where you copied the zip file and install. Watch out: Do NOT select the similar-looking apply sdcard:update.zip menu item. You have to confirm by selecting the correct ZIP file from a list.
reboot phone.

This woked for me too. Thanks a lot it was very annoying.
Oh and thanks for the dummies guide. I have not done anything but a nandbackup do it helped me feel a little more comfortable.

Great . It worked for me as well.
Thanks scott and all

[GUIDE] How to s= off with "su" and how to flash rom---[Noob's]

How to get S =off and superuser permissions
Make sure you are on 2.2.1 software and fastboot is turned off, usb debugging is turned on and phone not connected to computer via usb cable... before u attempt this.
First make sure you have visionary(downlod link) and terminal emulator(market) installed.
http://android.modaco.com/content/software/320350/19-nov-r14-visionary-one-click-root/
Place the visionary download file into sdcard and install the apk using astro file manager.
Root.rar (all files plus a script to make things a little easier. )
http://www.mediafire.com/?flit79p2y069bb3
md5sum: 46361b0cc8652d88688c0ab66d44950b
1. Download the root.rar file and unzip it to /sdcard on your device.(it should be a folder after unzip.[place the whole folder called root directly into sdcard])
2. Run VISIONary to gain temp root. Open visionary and check "set system r/w after root" then click on "temproot"..screen will go blank..thats normal.
Now open terminal and run some commands.
Terminal Emulator Method
3a. Start terminal emulator up on your device.(I prefer this method b/c you can see the output.)
a. type "su" + enter to gain root privileges.
b. Type "cd /sdcard/root" + enter.
c. Type "sh root.sh" + enter.
d. Follow the on screen prompts.
Turn off your phone and hold vol down and power. on the top u will see s =off.
select "fastboot" then shutdown or powerdown. Power you phone back on.
Open terminal and typr "su"..it will say permission denied. Thats normal
Now open visionary again. Make sure "set system r/w after root" checked then click on "temproot"..screen will go blank.. thats normal. Now click on "Attempt Permroot now" phone is reboot and you are all set
Go back into terminal and type "su" and it will say user permissions granted.
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Thanks to Mackster248 for makeing a youtube video on how to root. Disclaimer [This video tutorial uses visionary r11 and my guide uses visionary r14]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHrtVzlsA_s
If any one is having problem with "su" permission denied, Try using visionary r11.
download link for: visionary r11 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9278164&postcount=899
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Flash a Custom ROM----Make sure fastboot is off and usb debugging is on.
1. Before we flash anything lets flash clockwork so that you are able to get into recovery. From the market download Rom manager(free). Open rom manager and click on "flash clockworkmod recovery". Wait few min. Rom manager will download and flash clockwork. Turn your phone off and Hold vol down and power. In the hboot menu select recovery and then the phone will restart. You will get a phone with yellow triangle error. Thats normal. Don't panic. Take the battery out for couple on min. Turn the phone back on. Open Rom manager again. Now click on "flash clockworkmod recovery". It will flash the recovery second time. We are doing this to make the clockworkmod stick. Now turn the phone off and see if you can get into recovery again. It should work.
2. Make sure you are permrooted and S =off. Also make sure you are able to get into recovery before you start flashing stuff. Download rom from XDA developers and save it to your computer.
3. Once it is saved, plug in your phone via USB cable and mount the SD card so we can save files to the sd card.
4. Copy the ROM’s .zip file over to the root of the sd card (NOT in any folders on the sd card, just on the root of the card) (do NOT extract it, leave it as a .zip).
5. In the custom recovery screen, select Nandroid then Backup and backup your current ROM.
6. Then select Wipe Data and wipe caches.
7. Then select Apply ".zip from sd card" and choose the ROM you downloaded earlier.
8. Once it is done flashing, click reboot system. Once it reboots, you are all set. Enjoy!
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Thanks to Mackster248 for makeing a youtube video on how to flash rom.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah_vsW44lss
I am not responsable for damage to your device from flashing. Do this at your own risk.
Credit for these steps: http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/15/how...ryhboot-s-off/
Credit for these steps:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225
Hey devs let me know if something need to be corrected in the steps.

Looks pretty good and Thank You. Only thing I noticed is the detailed steps for Rom Manager and clockwork are missing.

bobsbbq said:
Looks pretty good and Thank You. Only thing I noticed is the detailed steps for Rom Manager and clockwork are missing.
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Sure I will it in the guide in couple of days.

Nothing missing that I can see, looks pretty good.
My MyGlacier 4G MINE!!!

Well I thought since he is going to the extent on detailing all the steps he might as well talk about the ROM Manager and recovery. Someone will say how do I get in to custom recovery if it is not mentioned that it is needed. If you are going the detail route then this should be included IMHO. I think this will help many new users.

I meant as far as the s off and rom flashing. I agree with you though that cw needs to be outlined a little better I just didn't mention it b/c he said he was going to add it later.
My MyGlacier 4G MINE!!!

Added the Rom manager and clockwork recovery steps under "flashing new rom". Plz can someone make sure this thread stay on first page bec i have see if no one responds the old threads move to second page.

Thank you very much this is my first android phone and when I followed the other root guide I didn't press perm root in visionary (last step), and a mod should sticky this so that it stays on the first page

moustafaraslan said:
Thank you very much this is my first android phone and when I followed the other root guide I didn't press perm root in visionary (last step), and a mod should sticky this so that it stays on the first page
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I am glad I can help.

I also just flashed a rom using this tutorial and I can tell you it's pretty noob friendly. I mean I have flashed softwares on other phones but never on an android, once again great guide.

i followed this method and when it rebooted after the "perm root" my phone keeps getting this error: The process android.process.acore has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again.
I can't really use my phone at this point.. any suggestions?
thanks.

Is there a way to force the 2.2.1 update if on the stock 2.2? I've tried all methods so fat and can't seem to get it to update....there is no ruu file around?
Sent From HTC G2

Videos!
I actually just made how to videos on these two topics!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHrtVzlsA_s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah_vsW44lss
I hope it helps some of the newcomers!
To the OP: Maybe if the vids are good enough you can put the links in the first post?

I'm still on 2.2 tho I'd love to get my my4g like yours ugh lol is there a way to force the 2.2.1 update? Or should i just wait :-(
Sent From HTC G2

poulosjr said:
I'm still on 2.2 tho I'd love to get my my4g like yours ugh lol is there a way to force the 2.2.1 update? Or should i just wait :-(
Sent From HTC G2
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Just wait, how long have you had the phone? On my first mt4g it took over a day to get my OTA update, but on my second one it only took an hour till I got mine. I've seen some people not get it till almost a week later.

peez206 said:
i followed this method and when it rebooted after the "perm root" my phone keeps getting this error: The process android.process.acore has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again.
I can't really use my phone at this point.. any suggestions?
thanks.
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Either Nandroid back or perform fix permissions via rom manager application.

i was never able to install the rom manager after it rebooted.. i only have maybe less than a second to do anything until the next force close pops back up.

Ive had it 3 days my g2 got the update like within 45min lol

peez206 said:
i was never able to install the rom manager after it rebooted.. i only have maybe less than a second to do anything until the next force close pops back up.
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Not really sure what went wrong. Did u make sure u were on 2.2.1 before you preformed the root method. I have tried these methods and never failed yet.

mackster248 said:
I actually just made how to videos on these two topics!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHrtVzlsA_s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah_vsW44lss
I hope it helps some of the newcomers!
To the OP: Maybe if the vids are good enough you can put the links in the first post?
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Click to collapse
Hey Mackster248 the videos look good. The only thing is the root video by u uses visionary r11 and so visionary r14 has more options than last version so some people might get confused. what u say?

[Q] Help with ICS root

Hello everyone!
I've been coming to this site for a few weeks now. What a ton of helpful information! I finally decided to create an account though, because I had a question I couldn't seem to get answered.
I'm fairly new to android, this a100 tablet is my first device I've "owned" but have worked with and have a little experience with other android devices. I'm pretty good with Linux, being an IT admin. I'm sure my issue is minute, I'm just stumped as to what is causing the problem.
I've upgraded my a100 to the latest ICS build. I've installed the drivers from acer (unfortunately after windows detected the device drivers first) and I am trying the quickroot method I found in the development forum. I can run the windows .bat file, and everything goes through CMD so quickly that I am not able to read whats happening, but it reboots my device and says root achieved. I've got super user installed, it won't find any updates for the SU in the settings menu, says failed every time it looks for them. I open terminal emulators, still getting $ instead of #. Tried a terminal command I read about for root, where I put the root and SU files at mnt/sdcard and use the command to install, no luck.
Am I truly rooted? I cant tell anymore. I just want to unlock the bootloader, install cwm, and flash an a500 custom rom to it.
Any help at all is greatly appreciated. I'm sure I'm overlooking something, but Im not sure. I can add a legacy device, add Acer's ADB driver, but the fastboot one gets a code 10 and cannot start.
Thanks!

pbrady5 said:
Hello everyone!
I've been coming to this site for a few weeks now. What a ton of helpful information! I finally decided to create an account though, because I had a question I couldn't seem to get answered.
I'm fairly new to android, this a100 tablet is my first device I've "owned" but have worked with and have a little experience with other android devices. I'm pretty good with Linux, being an IT admin. I'm sure my issue is minute, I'm just stumped as to what is causing the problem.
I've upgraded my a100 to the latest ICS build. I've installed the drivers from acer (unfortunately after windows detected the device drivers first) and I am trying the quickroot method I found in the development forum. I can run the windows .bat file, and everything goes through CMD so quickly that I am not able to read whats happening, but it reboots my device and says root achieved. I've got super user installed, it won't find any updates for the SU in the settings menu, says failed every time it looks for them. I open terminal emulators, still getting $ instead of #. Tried a terminal command I read about for root, where I put the root and SU files at mnt/sdcard and use the command to install, no luck.
Am I truly rooted? I cant tell anymore. I just want to unlock the bootloader, install cwm, and flash an a500 custom rom to it.
Any help at all is greatly appreciated. I'm sure I'm overlooking something, but Im not sure. I can add a legacy device, add Acer's ADB driver, but the fastboot one gets a code 10 and cannot start.
Thanks!
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You do have Superuser and it's su binary, so yes, you should be rooted. Try this app if you want to be sure: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.joeykrim.rootcheck&hl=en.

Besides the root checker that theonew pointed you too I have always found downloading and installing Titanium Backup from the market as a surefire way of determining if root was successful.
Upon first run it will ask for SU permissions and should present you with a dialog box asking if that is ok with you. I always answer yes and make sure that the "remember this selection" box is checked.
That will be the first sign that you are rooted. Then, The program should provide you with a summary where you will see a bunch of green check marks. Most notably Busy Box should have a green checkmark and it will probably state Installed from program or something to that effect.
Wahla, you have confirmed you are rooted.
BTW, I recommend this program for it's ability to backup your apps which makes flashing new rom's easier as the apps can then be restored after performing a data wipe which is usually a requirement of flashing new Roms. Just be sure you understand that sometimes restoring app's AND their associated DATA can mess with a new ROM. In that case you can simply install the APP only. which still saves you the time and bandwidth of re-downlaoding it from the market.
Good luck and welcome to the playground.

[TUT]How To Obtain A Little Freedom

[Tut]How To Systemless Root+Root+More!
This was fully tested on SM-G928A;Baseband:UCU2AOJ1 on 5.1.1
Just in case needed //SM-G928A\\ **Full Odin Restore G928AATT2AOJ1**
$<Download Mode & Odin Systemless Root Flash>
Requirements:
1.A Windows Computer
2.Your Phone Device SM-G92-0/5/8A
3.Odin 3.10.7
4.Kernel_Root_Android_5.1.1_AT&T_SamFirm.NET
5.USB Drivers(Most of the time if connect the phone to the computer using the usb cord that comes with the device it will install all of the drivers if your computer is connected to the internet.
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Okay now assuming that everything has been required, we can begin.
Turn off your phone and open Odin with admin rights on the computer & connect your phone to the computer using the usb cable that comes with the phone.
On the phone now hold all of these following buttons down, Volume Down+Home Key+Power Soon after once you see the blue screen release those buttons and press the Volume Up key to enter Downloading Mode.
Now in Odin on the computer, it should have recognized your device now press the "AP" button and open up for example, "G928A_Kernel_Root_5.1.1_SamFirm.NET.tar.MD5" now just press start and sit back and relax and soon you will have Systemless Root!(Note your phone will reboot which is normal after the flash.
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#<Obtaining Root Access>
Requirements:
1.A Windows Computer
2.Your Phone Device SM-G92-0/5/8A
3.USB Drivers(Most of the time if connect the phone to the computer using the usb cord that comes with the device it will install all of the drivers if your computer is connected to the internet.
4.Flashed The Systemless Root
5.Kingo Root
6.Root Checker Cost $FREE
7.SuperSU Cost $FREE
8.BusyBox Cost $FREE
9.Developer Options (USB Debug)
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Okay now assuming that everything has been required, we can begin.
Go into Settings>System>About Device & Enable Developer Options.(Keep tapping the "Build Number" category until it says Developer options have been enabled.
Connect your device with your usb that which comes with the phone on the computer. Open "Kingo ROOT" on your computer with admin rights, and once the program asks you to turn USB Debug on, go on your phone into Settings>System>Developer options and make sure it is enabled as well as usb debugging. Wait for kingo root to find your device and once found, it will ask you to either "Reroot,Root, or Remove Root, click "Reroot" then wait for it to start.(After it starts you should see on your phone the kingo root usb app pop-up and show the same thing you see on your computer)
After it is done it should confirm you have been rooted and will ask to donate.
Now you may exit out of the program on the computer and the phone and once out of the app and back on your phone, you will want to look in your app drawer for the kingo root "Superuser" and uninstall this. Then head on over to the playstore if haven't all ready and install "SuperSU" & "Busybox" if want to. Once have the SuperSU app open it and install the su binary updates with the "Normal" option not the recovery one since we don't have that.... & once done just press OK DO NOT REBOOT or you will bootloop and will have to use Odin to reflash your system of your phone to get it back working out of the box "state"
UPDATE Have a pc around and can still boot with root:
Yamaha169 said:
You can restart the device while rooted... but you have to have ADB to do so...
When you reboot ... you will get stuck at the ATT logo... at this point... plug your phone in to your pc...
Open up ADB (COMMAND WINDOW)
type in
ADB devices
until your device # appears in adb... (this can take a minute for your pc to find your phone) so don't panic
This means the phone is found...
From this point... type
ADB ROOT
ADB SHELL
YOU will now be inside the shell of the device with root permissions
Now type
setenforce 0
(MAKE SURE LOWERCASE just like seen. "setenforce 0" if do Setenforce 0 it won't be found.....)
This will set selinux to permissive ... allowing the phone to boot...
Someone with enough experience could probably create a selinux permissive stock kernel ... but I've contacted several developers with no response ...
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Now open up the root checker app & click verify to see if you truly do have root.(You must grant root access so allow once it pops up.) Enjoy your root but never ever reboot.
UPDATE: How to Root If Possibly not allowing you to root!!!
Step one you will need to of downloaded "Android Studio
Step two you will now need to install all of the updates(Well that's what I did) inside the studio program.
Step three now locate 'program tools" which for me was located here: C:\Users\NameofComputer\AppData\Local\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools
Step four make a cmd.exe file to go in the platform-tools simply just clicking on the "start button" on windows and searching "cmd" then dragging the cmd file to the folder.(Rename it to something like ADB Root or something different than just cmd)
Step FIVE download the su binary which can be located HERE and place it in the "platform-tools" folder.
Step SIX now almost there. Open the cmd file(ADB Root.exe) and once opened, plug the phone into the computer with the cable that came with your phone.
Step Seven:^.^ now with the phone plugged in and the program start, type this command to make sure your device is found:
Code:
adb devices
and if found you will see your attached devices and if more than one or can't see your device, you can do
Code:
adb kill-server
command and it will restart adb.
Step Eight: MAGIC time lol now that your phone is connected and you can see it is indeed listed, type these commands as followed:
Code:
adb root
adb remount
adb push su /system/bin/su
adb shell
chown 0:0 /system/bin/su
chmod 6755 /system/bin/su
You don't really have to do the other commands after pushing su it's just for pre-caution.
Step Nine: Now do the following at the top and try to use the Kingo root once more and click root or reroot.
If this doesn't work try to press unroot and restart phone then try this again.
Also like down below I talk about if you did reboot before you unrooted, you can still unroot but sometimes it's tricky and it needs you to do the adb remount before will work so just remember that...
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$#$<UnRooting & Keeping Systemless Root So You Can Reboot & Reroot>
Requirements:
1.Your Phone Device SM-G92-0/5/8A
2.Root Access(Superuser rights)
3.SuperSU Cost $FREE
4.Root Checker Cost $FREE
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This is very simple and easy to do, all you must do after every root and before every reboot is to go into "SuperSU" and go into the settings and scroll down until you see "Fully Unroot" and click that and once done verify with the root checker that you are indeed unrooted but still have adb shell and once done that you may freely reboot with no bootloop and then if want root once more just use "Kingo Root" on the computer to reroot once more.(I'm hoping someone will come out with an app that does the same thing and works so we don't need the computer anymore which would make it much easier..)
Edit/Update:
I found that if you maybe forgot to unroot before a reboot that you can still unroot without the need of going into odin and reflashing stock system just by connecting your phone to the computer via the usb that which comes with your phone and opening up Kingo Root and waiting for it to find your phone then click unroot and wait for it after you have unrooted and you will hear a sound which means it's fixed! So just force shutdown the device with pressing both: Volume Down+Home Button+Power then it will boot back up as normal!
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~My Findings Through Long Research & Errors~:
<How to Fix Wifi Bug That Comes With Flashing Systemless Root>
Requirements:
1.Your Phone Device SM-G92-0/5/8A
2.Root Access(Superuser rights)
3.SuperSU Cost $FREE
4.BuildProp Editor Cost $FREE
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On your phone open up the "BuildProp Editor".
click on the search button and search for "ro.securestorage.support=true" now once found change the =true to =false and save. Now you must reboot for it to take place but remember to UNROOT before you reboot.
Now doing this your wifi will stay connected and you no longer have to enter your password millions of times so it will be nicer to keep systemless root.
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<How to Enable AT&T Hotspot System FULLYApp>
Requirements:
1.Your Phone Device SM-G92-0/5/8A
2.Root Access(Superuser rights & .SuperSU Cost $FREE)
3.Root Explorer Cost $3.99
4.NEW Modded TetheringProvision .apk Cost $FREE(Also can be found in this thread in attachments.
5.ADB Root cmd knowledge or Download SQLite Editor Cost $2.99
6.BuildProp Editor Cost $FREE
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Okay my fellow members that stayed on 5.1.1 with me, this tut did once work but then at&t blocked me and it stopped working but now rejoice becase there is a bypass once more!!!
NEW WAY:
I'm not sure which worked so I'm gonna just tell you everything that I did...
1.I first rooted obviously
2.I found a new TetheringProvision.apk which I have uploaded down in the attachment and at the top.
3.I used adb root for this but this can also be done with sqlite editior so I'll explain both ways, first way will be the easy way the adb root...>>>
Step 1: Ensure you have the correct OEM drivers installed for your handset on the computer
Step 2: Download and install the necessary ADB drivers (v1.4.2)
Step 3: Enable USB debugging on your Android handset:
Go to Settings > About Device, and tap the build number 7 times or until you see 'You're now a developer' message.
Return to Settings > Developer options and use the toggle button to turn on USB debugging. Then tap OK button to accept the warning and continue.
Step 4:Connect your device to PC with original USB cable.
Step 5: Launch a command window on your Windows PC.
Step 6: Access ADB shell and run the following command:
adb shell now just type " settings put global tether_dun_required 0 " and enter.
________----------Now the sqlite way
Step 1:Go into sqlite editor and allow root rights...
Step 2: Locate "Settings Storage" and click on "Settings.db then click on "global"
Step 3:Locate tether_dun_required 0 and if not there add by clicking on the +
then fill out name as " tether_dun_required " >>And value as " 0 " and then save file and unroot then reboot.
Now then after all of that I downloaded the build.prop which I know you don't have to but it makes it easier for me to do so and probably for you too...
Step 1:Get build.prop editor from the playstore and open it to grant root rights.
Step 2:Click on the pencil icon on the top right where the search icon is.
Step 3: Scroll all the way down to an open line.(If not one make one.)
and put this in the line....>>> " net.tethering.noprovisioning=true " and then click the save button at the top right and then save it and unroot then reboot.
Then replacing the Tetherprovision.apk . >>>
Step 1: Download the NEW modded TetherProvision.apk at top or at bottom.
Step 2: get a root explorer and go to System/App/TetheringProvision
Step 3: Rename the actual TetheringProvision.apk to TetheringProvision.apk.bak
Step 4: in the same location, go into "arm64" and rename the TetheringProvision.odex to TetheringProvision.odex.bak
Step 5: Now locate the modded TetheringProvision.apk you've just downloaded and place it in System/App/TetheringProvision/ now should be two TetheringProvision, the TetheringProvision.apk.bak and the modded one, TetheringProvision.apk.
Step 6: change the property promissions of the tetheringprovision.apk to give it root rights by changing the promissions to look just like the actual one which is " rw-r--r-- "
Step 7: save and unroot then reboot!
Now youre wifi tether and usb should work!!! enjoy!
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<How to disable OTA & Security Notification>
Requirements:
1.Your Phone Device SM-G92-0/5/8A
2.Root Access(Superuser rights & .SuperSU Cost $FREE)
3.Titanium Backup & Titanium Backup Pro License Cost $Free | $5.99
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Open up titanium back with pro license and freeze these following apps:
1.SecurityLogAgent(This is that annoying notification that which comes with the systemless flash root that keeps annoying you to reboot and undo what you done.)
AT&T Software Update(This will make it so AT&T won't push any updates to your device anymore so no need to worry about installing an update ota and losing your root or something else like bootlooping.
And again, all of this sticks after you unroot and reboot!
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<How to Get Youtube RED (Sort of) FREE!>
Requirements:
1.Your Phone Device SM-G92-0/5/8A
2.OGYoutube Cost $Free
Basically all you do here is download the modded sort of youtube app(OGYoutube) and install it then done! You now can download videos/music on the app and have access to run audio in the background plus NO ADS!!! (if there are I haven't seen any yet...)
Best part of this too since can't be used fttb, no need for XPOSED apk!
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<How To Install Viper4android>
Requirements:
1.Your Phone Device SM-G92-0/5/8A
2.Root Access(Superuser rights & .SuperSU Cost $FREE)
3.Fast Reboot
4.Soft Reboot
5.Viper4Android V2.3.4.0
6.Audio_Effect.Config
7.Titanium Backup & Titanium Backup Pro License Cost $Free | $5.99
8.IRS Impulse Response Sample files
9.Root Explorer Cost $3.99
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To Read the tuts yourself than rather follow my tut, you may do so by following This Link & This Link
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Alright, I decided to do my own detail tut to make it much easier so follow me and you'll have viper4android in no time : )
So let's get begin, download if not already, the busybox,SuperSU,TitaniumBackup,Fast reboot,Soft Reboot, & Root explorer. Now having all that done open up Busybox and allow it root rights and you may wait for it to research for a smart intall, or just press install. Once you installed it in the default location System/xbin, click on the will be installed to location and choose System/bin and install it there too.(Not sure why but that's what the tut called for.)
Now let's download the folders for viper4android, go ahead and download Audio_Effect.Config.zip file,IRS Impulse Response Sample files, & the Viper4Android V2.3.4.0 folder.
Now open up the root explorer and unzip all that which is zipped up.(Which is all of the files;Audio_Effect.Config.zip file,IRS Impulse Response Sample files.zip, & the Viper4Android V2.3.4.0 folder.zip
)
Now once all are extracted, we will begin putting what is needed where.
Let's start off with the ViPER4Android_FX_A4.x (The actual name of the folder) you're gonna want to long press it and copy this folder. Once done, you're gonna want to paste this folder in System>Priv-app and make sure to change the permission of the .apk to 0644 rw-r--r-- & the FOLDER to 0755 rwxr-xr-x(The folder should have the same permissions as the other folders in that location.) which is inside the folder to give it root access which is 0644;rw-r--r-- and if not sure what root permission should look like, refer to this link Or Google what it looks like, then save/press ok.
Now go back to where you extracted your folders, and this time copy the "audio_effects.conf and go to System>etc and find and rename the actual audio_effects.conf to audio_effects.conf.bak and then paste the copied modded audio_effects.conf here & DONT FORGET change the permissions to give it root rights.
Now after all is done, open the app "Titanium Backup Pro" and look for and freeze these following applications: 1.Adapt Sound 4.0 & SoundAlive 3.0 now open the app "Soft Reboot (Root) and click yes you want to do a soft reboot. Then once back up(If want you can click the "Fast reboot app" to quickly refresh the system) and running you should see the viper app inside your app drawer. Open it and install the update/software when ask you to and once done it should ask for you to reboot just click on ok and then go out and back to the "Soft Reboot (Root) then do another soft reboot.
Now almost DONE!!! Once back up and running again, go to your root explorer again where you extracted the folders and grab the folder of "ViPER4Android and move it to your device storage ex; Storage/emulated/0 (It's where the download folder is and dcim folder is.. Then finally, go toSettings>Device>Sounds and notifications>Sound quality and effects and toggle on all of the listings[NOTE YOU MUST PUT EARPHONES IN FOR THESE TOGGLES TO SHOW]; UHQ Upscaler|SoundAlive+|Tube Amp Pro now you're done enjoy viper4android via editing the settings in the app.
Edit
You need to download SELinux Mode Changer and give root rights and just click on permissive mode and all done. Also might need to use compatible mode in the Viper4Android settings.
I found that this mod works with Pandora and Youtube app but not with google music or the default music app and not sure how to fix that....
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This is some more quick finds which you don't need a tut for just information I'd like to share so you all know.
I found out that you can use Titanium Backup Pro Cost $5.99 and freeze anything you want such as bloatware and that annoying notification that appears every time you reboot if have systemless root installed "SecurityLogAgent" and as long as you UNROOT before you reboot, it is safe and everything you froze stays frozen.
Now I haven't tried uninstalling any system apps so I wouldn't advise doing that unless you wanted to but I don't see the point except to free space up since you can just freeze anything and does the same thing except for freeing space....
I haven't been able to unlock the bootloader in my research and errors which probably never gonna happen anytime soon....
I also never found an app that could root the device yet without a computer....
And yeah that's it! I just was so happy to find out all of this and just had to share it with xda members which are on the same boat as me that has been wanting some "freedom" which now can have a piece of it. : )
If found these tuts to be helpful, feel free to hit thanks button and if want donate.

AngelRyu said:
Just gonna get right to it and be fast.
Odin Flash Kernel for systemless root.
obtain root
Download SuperSU
After rooted download some sort of buildprop editor and search for " ro.securestorage.support=true" Now change =true to =false. and save!
Now go into the superSU app and fully unroot then reboot and also keep adb shell root!
So you fix the wifi bug plus keep the adb shell so you can obtain root once more! Now we just need some app that can give root access with 1 click without needing a pc and this would work for me until we can actually reboot with root without it bootlooping anyways.... I still can't find a wifi tether app or a method that works for the at&t hotspot app though...
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Question for clarification.
So current method for rooting g928a is this systemless root.
Question 1, will it brick my phone with this root if i reboot, because i read somewhere on here that the phone will just keep on rebooting.
You mention using superSU app to unroot to reboot. So basically I have to unroot with superSU whenever I want to reboot then reflash again to get root?

fuzmik said:
Question for clarification.
So current method for rooting g928a is this systemless root.
Question 1, will it brick my phone with this root if i reboot, because i read somewhere on here that the phone will just keep on rebooting.
You mention using superSU app to unroot to reboot. So basically I have to unroot with superSU whenever I want to reboot then reflash again to get root?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes you must unroot to remove the su binary so the system acts like nothing has happen. I use kingo root for windows and it works every time with root all you need to do is hit "root" or it may say "reroot" and works every time. I have been playing with this a lot trying to do things to get it to reboot with root but have failed so far.... I wish someone with more experience would approach this so we could have an app to use at least so we not have to use pc every time to reroot until we get the ability to keep root and reboot.
Kingo root can be found here : https://www.kingoapp.com/android-root.htm
and this works after flashing the kernel from odin. This was the only way I actually found to be able to get root was with this because manually pushing su just didn't work for me....

Thanks for being much clearer on the instructions and idoit proof. I was worried about the bootloop and I thought there was no exit strategy on this expensive phone until you mention reflash. With your extensive tinkering on this, did your knox security trip up?
If this is the only possible way, maybe the community could make some sort of app that if we have to shutdown or reboot the phone specifically for g928a, it will safely unroot it for us.
TASKER?!

Anyone know if this still works after taking the latest OTA a few days ago?

The problem is this isn't root. I restart my phone several times a day. There is no point especially if I can't get a custom OS. However, thanks for making the instructions clear. And for anyone who doesn't understand systemless root, it's temp root. When you reboot dmverity sees the false file structure and tries to rewrite and reverse the changes, effectively removing root. On the Note 5 AT&T for temp root you didn't have to unroot before reboot as it wouldn't boot loop, it would just remove root and let you continue on. So something in this version must be getting farther in breaking past dmverity if it's causing the OS to bootloop.

tonys.94 said:
The problem is this isn't root. I restart my phone several times a day. There is no point especially if I can't get a custom OS. However, thanks for making the instructions clear. And for anyone who doesn't understand systemless root, it's temp root. When you reboot dmverity sees the false file structure and tries to rewrite and reverse the changes, effectively removing root. On the Note 5 AT&T for temp root you didn't have to unroot before reboot as it wouldn't boot loop, it would just remove root and let you continue on. So something in this version must be getting farther in breaking past dmverity if it's causing the OS to bootloop.
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I was wondering if maybe we could place SU somewhere else so we might could trick it to reboot with root but haven't done it yet and or maybe keep SU on the sdcard/storage and use the terminal on the phone to push su to xbin every reboot but just hoping maybe can get root working without making the stupid thing bootloop.... Like I said I been doing a lot of dumb stuff with my phone because I have been so disappointed in this phone with not having wifi tether at the most really but now that got that I'm much happier but I'm still on the research of keeping root and being able to reboot.
I won't be updating until something maybe for sure comes along with 6.0 I can wait because my galaxy s4 I had stayed on stock version forever because was able to do everything so was no need to update really.... Anyways yeah lol maybe someone greater or maybe my playing around will work. WE can only hope...
Oh yeah, to the other guy NO it did not trip knox doing any of the things I've done. which I wouldn't care if could unlock the bootloader lol...
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I've done all I can think of and didn't work to keep root on a reboot except it did keep root without bootloop with a soft reboot...
I found out to maybe later will add tut up top but for now I'd like to tell you or whoever, if you do bootloop due to not being able to access the su unroot in time, you can still connect your device with Kingo Root in that bootloop and can unroot to save you from having to reflash every time... Might have to reboot as soon as you hear the found from the unroot though.
Oh and on a factory reset everything sticks excepts what was frozen becomes unfrozen just fyi...
Yeah, that's all I can find so I'm done with it hope someone can help later on but I'm just happy with wifi tether so much : )

So what all can we do with this root
Thank you for your hard work. it's very much appreciated!!!
Will pay part of my bounty which is 50 dollars pay day!!
But, please reply. what all can we do with this root!?

O0Gjulian said:
So what all can we do with this root
Thank you for your hard work. it's very much appreciated!!!
Will pay part of my bounty which is 50 dollars pay day!!
But, please reply. what all can we do with this root!?
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Hi, I didn't come up with anything but the fix for wifi bug and hotspot app.
I just made a very detail tut to help others, but thanks.
I would wait on the bounty to be paid to someone who can make it possible to keep root on and still be able to reboot.

So in theory with this method I can root, install a modified tetheringprovisions, unroot (as hotspot is the only feature I actually desire), and go about my business without worrying about bootlooping or knox being tripped? Feels too good to be true, but I want to believe.

Just a reminder that Android 6.0.1 is right around the corner. If you don't fully go back to stock before the upgrade it will not flash and could possibly wipe the data partition. Both the system and boot images need to be 100% stock.

antizombie said:
So in theory with this method I can root, install a modified tetheringprovisions, unroot (as hotspot is the only feature I actually desire), and go about my business without worrying about bootlooping or knox being tripped? Feels too good to be true, but I want to believe.
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It's true, that's how my phone is rolling with frozen apps and the modded hotspot without root, but still the systemless root remains in the system but doesn't do anything with out a computer or applying the kingo root to true root it.
I haven't tested the adaway yet so idk if will work or not.... and I been wanting xpose to work to disable youtube ads but haven't tried that either. . I might root tonight and try out adway tho.
But yeah to your question you are 100% safe and will not change anything or trip anything; phone can reboot all it wants with no bootloops with the modded tether is what I'm trying to say lol .. .
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Yeah adaway works after unroot and reboot. . . But I decided not to use it because a lot of people us adfly and it wouldn't let me access the link so yeah.....
On another note I froze a lot of stuff and done a lot of things not sure which part caused it but it doesn't bother me because I don't use samsung pay but in the end I had to freeze samsung framework for samsung pay because it kept saying force closed but which again Idc about that app so no biggy to me : )

Was Samsung Pay crashing before you started freezing apps? I have yet to use Pay but I'd prefer to keep my options open if possible.

antizombie said:
Was Samsung Pay crashing before you started freezing apps? I have yet to use Pay but I'd prefer to keep my options open if possible.
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Honestly, I'm not sure but it had to be either the freezing at&t update or securityagent because it seemed to happen after that... Or could be the hotspot mod but I didn't get any crashes until i froze those 2 apps so idk...

Package Disabler in play store freezes apps so what's the point?
Can you fully remove with TiBu and be safe unrooted?
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navalynt said:
Just a reminder that Android 6.0.1 is right around the corner. If you don't fully go back to stock before the upgrade it will not flash and could possibly wipe the data partition. Both the system and boot images need to be 100% stock.
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Yeah and from what I've seen of the nightmares people have been having with their Note 5's on Marshmallow, I'm staying FAR away from it!

I can confirm this works. Sorta a pain to have to reroot but hey, It's progress. We may never have a custom ROM option or recovery, But this is the next big thing. If we can find a app that'll just reroot us. it's perfect. (somewhat) Just rooted a few minutes ago. Going to play around. More than likely I'll re flash stock and make a youtube video for anyone needing questions or wanting to see it be done.
And I lied.. So, My experience was weird. Lagging constantly and weird download issues with a fresh wipe.
I'm sadly gonna have to unroot and hope that a better method would come out.
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O0Gjulian said:
I can confirm this works. Sorta a pain to have to reroot but hey, It's progress. We may never have a custom ROM option or recovery, But this is the next big thing. If we can find a app that'll just reroot us. it's perfect. (somewhat) Just rooted a few minutes ago. Going to play around. More than likely I'll re flash stock and make a youtube video for anyone needing questions or wanting to see it be done.
And I lied.. So, My experience was weird. Lagging constantly and weird download issues with a fresh wipe.
I'm sadly gonna have to unroot and hope that a better method would come out.
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I'm not sure why you would experience "lag" because I have no lag what so ever. Maybe try going to settings>system>developer options and change both transition animation scale and window animation scale to 0.5x
I've reflashed stock many of times due to to trying to find everything there is to find and I've had no "lag" but also you could download the soft reboot and fast reboot from market. Fast reboot frees up memory via closing and restarting certain apps, and soft reboot kills zygote and does a "hot reboot" without going through whole start up process .
Please reply I'm gonna try and help you : )
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joe3681 said:
Package Disabler in play store freezes apps so what's the point?
Can you fully remove with TiBu and be safe unrooted?
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Yeah and from what I've seen of the nightmares people have been having with their Note 5's on Marshmallow, I'm staying FAR away from it!
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I can confirm freezing anything won't harm the system on a reboot after unrooting but not sure about removing the apps would be safe. I have however remove the youtube app and reinstalled it in play store and it didn't harm anything.

AngelRyu said:
I'm not sure why you would experience "lag" because I have no lag what so ever. Maybe try going to settings>system>developer options and change both transition animation scale and window animation scale to 0.5x
I've reflashed stock many of times due to to trying to find everything there is to find and I've had no "lag" but also you could download the soft reboot and fast reboot from market. Fast reboot frees up memory via closing and restarting certain apps, and soft reboot kills zygote and does a "hot reboot" without going through whole start up process .
Please reply I'm gonna try and help you : )
Thanks for helping me! I went ahead and flashed stock and followed your steps!
Working great now!
NOW, My next question... What difference would it make if I used package disabler pro VS TBU?
Wouldn't both of these apps freeze the processes? Or would it make a difference with root and SU access?
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O0Gjulian said:
AngelRyu said:
I'm not sure why you would experience "lag" because I have no lag what so ever. Maybe try going to settings>system>developer options and change both transition animation scale and window animation scale to 0.5x
I've reflashed stock many of times due to to trying to find everything there is to find and I've had no "lag" but also you could download the soft reboot and fast reboot from market. Fast reboot frees up memory via closing and restarting certain apps, and soft reboot kills zygote and does a "hot reboot" without going through whole start up process .
Please reply I'm gonna try and help you : )
Thanks for helping me! I went ahead and flashed stock and followed your steps!
Working great now!
NOW, My next question... What difference would it make if I used package disabler pro VS TBU?
Wouldn't both of these apps freeze the processes? Or would it make a difference with root and SU access?
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I'm not sure because I've never heard of that program, but I did buy it just now for about $1.89 and the activation keeps failing so I can't test it to see the difference but with titanium you can do everything not just freeze stuff but back up apps and their data and much more.
Titanium backup has been around for ages which is why I recommend it.
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I use package Disabler. Works like TiBu without root. Only reason to root would be to fully remove apps but would it boot okay after?