I really haven't been able to figure out how exactly link2sd works!
I have created a ext2 partition n link2sd detects it n I am able to link apps too but when I install apps I run outa storage even though my apps get auto linked?
What am I doing wrong?
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If you are doing batch installs, you need to take breaks. Link2SD doesn't link everything automatically.Especially large apps, they go straight to App2SD method. Open link2SD and link all apps that are on SD card and the apps that are on internal. This should free up space.
However, be careful. You need to be patient, because I've messed it up loads of times. It takes quite long sometimes and phone can give low memory warnings during&after linking apps. Too much killing/rebooting can mess it up.
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If you are doing batch installs, you need to take breaks. Link2SD doesn't link everything automatically.Especially large apps, they go straight to App2SD method. Open link2SD and link all apps that are on SD card and the apps that are on internal. This should free up space.
However, be careful. You need to be patient, because I've messed it up loads of times. It takes quite long sometimes and phone can give low memory warnings during&after linking apps. Too much killing/rebooting can mess it up.
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But when I install an app it says that it has been linked and when I go to the manage applications on my phone the app is still taking memory but when I check with the storage info in link2sd my ext4 is getting used up too! And Even shows that my app, dalvik cache and the lib files have been linked!
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Don't forget that even if all files are on the card, when you start applications they use internal storage like RAM on a PC. The cache of some apps no matter what will always be in that area. That's why I clean cache and other stuff frequently. I use History Eraser for that and it's great. Also sometimes we need to restart the phone to release internal storage. My procedure is to restart and then run History Eraser. You may be surprised with the amout of memory reclaimed.
Make a simple test with History Eraser installed but without actually cleaning anything: check free ram on History Eraser, open Android Market and browse a bit there. Just navigate through categories and leave. Now open H. E. again. See how much ram was "eaten"? Now clear cache and other logs you don't need. How much memory was released?
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Try this tutorial it worked like a charm for me: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21119907#post21119907
One small thing I have to add. Even if you link an app, the Android App manager will show the application size as the original install. As far as the OS knows, the apps all reside on the data partition. But they won't take up space and the free space displayed does not depend on this either.
However, the app data and cache still remain on the phone's internal memory. If you want everything to be moved to SD, you can try DATA2SD but the general opinion is that it's better to keep the data on the data partition itself as it will be faster. That and DATA2SD is slightly more difficult to install. So people generally prefer Link2SD.
Link2SD also gives you the option of which apps to move and which not to for performance.
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One small thing I have to add. Even if you link an app, the Android App manager will show the application size as the original install. As far as the OS knows, the apps all reside on the data partition. But they won't take up space and the free space displayed does not depend on this either.
However, the app data and cache still remain on the phone's internal memory. If you want everything to be moved to SD, you can try DATA2SD but the general opinion is that it's better to keep the data on the data partition itself as it will be faster. That and DATA2SD is slightly more difficult to install. So people generally prefer Link2SD.
Link2SD also gives you the option of which apps to move and which not to for performance.
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I would say that DATA2SD is much demanding in terms of the memory card you have. As I wrote in other threads, I tried it with the original 2GB card that came with my phone, a 4GB Sandisk Class 4 and 8GB Kingston Class 4. It didn't work with any of those.
Now I have a Samsung "Essentials" 16GB Class 6 and it works perfectly.
Besides this after flashing DATA2SD and restarting, I recommend that people wait at least one minute before typing in the PIN. It takes time for DATA2SD to find your dedicated partition and make the necessary adjustments.
A sort of conclusion:
The first boot after flashing the rom should be only for making initial setup and turning of Fast Boot. After that users should flash DATA2SD immediately, reboot and wait the above mentioned time before trying to use the phone. This is crucial for the success (or not) of it's implementation.
Note: I used Link2SD before and it's also a great solution. It's also a bit picky on the memory cards but not as much as DATA2SD. Like you say, cache and application data will still go to internal storage which is extremely limited.
That's why IMHO, DATA2SD can be a better solution if you use a good quality and fast memory card.
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Am I supposed to go back and erase all of my apps from internal storage after they are moved to the SD card? If so, how?
I just don't understand why I only have 200MB out of 1GB available. All of my apps are on the SD card now.
What do I need to delete out of the internal memory?
Any help is MUCHO appreciated.
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You don't actually have 1GB of usable storage space by default. It's split into partitions, and the user storage is only ~512MB or less (I can't remember how I saw what the internal storage was split up as...)
"ONLY 200MB"
How much do you need?
I get your point. You get the point of my questions though, right?
If you have a fast SD card, you can move the dalvik cache to the SD card and free up another 60 megs or so.
You'll never see most of that gigabyte on your phone. Ever. I think the maximum you're allowed for apps on the internal flash storage is 350 megabytes. Even with Apps2SD, I think the dalvik cache for all of your apps is still stored on the internal memory, which would occupy some space.
I don't know what the heck I'm doing is the problem. Once I figure it out, I'll post some stats for new guys like me.
I've formatted my card correctly. Now I'm just trying to figure out if I'm supposed to wipe my system and reinstall in order for the apps to get "moved over" or not. I'm curious as to whether My Backup Pro or Titanium will "restore" the apps to the SD card now that I'm formatted correctly.
I believe the "moving" is not really moving it happens on install. So yes starting fresh is probably the best way to go.
There is only like 350mb or so of user installable space. Depending on rom it could go up a little but its close.
Also remember, not every single portion of the app gets installed on the SD. Some files still need to be stored on nand, just less. Much less depending on the app.
Just make sure you have a decently fast sd card if you want to move dalvik there. class 6 or better imo. It will work with a slower card but it could slow things down.
Froyo requires ext4 partition btw. Not sure what rom your using.
^^ Thanks for the info. I'm using Fresh 1.0.1, which is good because I don't even know how to make Ext4. I'm using Amon RA to partition and the only upgrade option was from 2 to 3. I didn't see anything about 4.
I'll wipe clean and see what happens.
Oh, one more thing that your post made me think of. The whole reason that I'm doing this is so that I don't have to re-install apps every time I wipe and install a new ROM. I figured that the new ROMs would just find my apps on my SD card.
If this isn't the case then it is not worth it to me. Meaning, if I still have to re-install all apps each time I wipe the device there is no benefit to me.
So: is that the case? Do new ROMs just "find" the apps on the SD card?
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I believe the "moving" is not really moving it happens on install. So yes starting fresh is probably the best way to go.
There is only like 350mb or so of user installable space. Depending on rom it could go up a little but its close.
Also remember, not every single portion of the app gets installed on the SD. Some files still need to be stored on nand, just less. Much less depending on the app.
Just make sure you have a decently fast sd card if you want to move dalvik there. class 6 or better imo. It will work with a slower card but it could slow things down.
Froyo requires ext4 partition btw. Not sure what rom your using.
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Hi,
I have rooted froyo 2.2 with App2Sd enabled and always move everything that possible to the Sd card. In spite of that, I have only 20Mb free space left (I use Android System info app). I have 8GB 6class samsung Sd card and did the partitions as said in guides.
how can I have more space to install more apps or I stuck and just have to decide what important and what not ?
Thanks.
what App2SD?
The native Froyo one or the App2SD+?
The native Froyo one does not move the whole app. Just take a look in the app listing and you'll see how much space it occupies on the internal RAM and how much it occupies on the SD card. You also can't move every app, e.g. no widgets.
The App2SD+ moves all apps to the SD-Card, including cache. But even then the more apps you install the less internal memory is available. That's because of a process I don't exactly remember Some apps unpack stuff which gets copied to the internal data partition, and I don't talk about the cache. Don't know for sure, but you should find it with the search.
When I check the app2sd ver. It doesn't shows the. + Symbol so I guess that it is a regular one. Can you give me a link to the plus version?
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Lior84 said:
When I check the app2sd ver. It doesn't shows the. + Symbol so I guess that it is a regular one. Can you give me a link to the plus version?
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?? how shall you check the App2SD Version. You either use the + one, by using an EXT2/3 partition and a proper ROM and not moving the apps manually, it gets done automatically, or you use the Froyo one, by moving each app manually to the SD card in the app settings.
To get APPS2SD+ you need a properly set EXT2/3 partition and then flash a ROM supporting it (like Leedroid if you like a Sense ROM, or DeFrost, Opendesire if you like an AOSP ROM), that's it.
So i managed to root my phone, flashed the latest Leedroid rom and use A2SD+ , to overcome the storage issues.
All is working fine, i can see the ext partition and that the partition is actually in use.
What i understood is that you should not move apps from phone to SD anymore, because A2SD+ is automatically installing them to the EXT partition.
However i notice some apps still take up quite a lot of phone storage.
When i move them to SD, the free space increases a lot
For instance i moved Google Earth and that got me an extra 23 mb of free phone memory. Also moving Rock Player freed up some space.
So my question is:
should i leave app on the phone at al times, as people are suggesting, or can i move apps to SD which seems to clear some phone memory?
If it frees up more space, move them to sd.. I use titanium to do that as i've heard it works better than the stock way.
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Well a2sd+ moves that apk and the dalvik cache to ext. "move to sd" moves the apk and the libs to fat.
Using either solution over the other will not be as effective as using both. However bear in mind that it becomes messy when you are splitting the components of an application over 3 partitions.
My advice if you're struggling for space, do it with the odd application. Don't make a habit of it
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Hello I am looking for a Rom or whatever that would make my sd card the phone storage instead the 500mb u get with the phone
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There are a couple of apps that can do it they basically just link to your external try directory binder
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hey i got link2sd and more things but that doesnt help i got 30 mb left.
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hey i got link2sd and more things but that doesnt help i got 30 mb left.
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What you are asking is impossible, you can´t make bigger the space of you´re phone, using the sd card.
Allthough you can try to use some applications to move the apps to you're SD, apps like Link2Sd(You need root) or more.
Also you can root you´re mobile and use titanium backup to delete apps you don´t need and you can´t remove,normally, but attention, if you remove some apps you´re phone can stop working.
I hope i helped!
If you have unlocked bootloader, you can flash Lupus GB kernel. It have 640MB data partition. And with the help of Link2SD (to move as much apps as you can to SD) it should be enough for some time
You could also partition SD card so apps2sd or link2sd can use it expand storage but is somehow harder to setup. You might check http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/SD_card_partitioning
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hey i got link2sd and more things but that doesnt help i got 30 mb left.
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Are you rooted? If so get titanium backup pro (it's worth the $6 or $7). There's an option for moving dalvik-cache to /cache in there. Depending on phone, you can free up 80-100 MB of space by doing this. Here is the manual method, but it may not work on a lot of devices. Lack of space on these phones was my driving force for rooting it. I'm not certain about this (maybe someone who knows can chime it), but I believe making a separate small ext3 partition for your apps (something like 1-2GB) on your SD card helps out with speed of apps stored on there using link2sd.
Hello..
I have htc desire 816 with 8gb of internal storage ....when i bought it,it had about 4gb free of that storage.....which is quite normal.
After buying it, I updated to lollipop 5.1 then i got it rooted......
Lately i've noticed the insufficient internal sotrage,so I've uninsalled ALL the apps and games from internal and external memory,however,that only freed up about 2 gb of the intrrnal storage ....so what is taking all that space despite there is No apps ....I know that the system files are taking some space....but those files only took 4gb when i bought the phone
Now i don't have any apps ,However, there is only free 1.8gb
I tried using clean master,but it only cleaned about 300mb of junks and cache
This is strictly a personal opinion but you should lose Clean Master and anything else made by Cheetah Mobile.
As for your storage issues... You state you've rooted. Have you done a backup? If so, are you sure your recovery is saving backups to the external storage?
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Hello..
I have htc desire 816 with 8gb of internal storage ....when i bought it,it had about 4gb free of that storage.....which is quite normal.
After buying it, I updated to lollipop 5.1 then i got it rooted......
Lately i've noticed the insufficient internal sotrage,so I've uninsalled ALL the apps and games from internal and external memory,however,that only freed up about 2 gb of the intrrnal storage ....so what is taking all that space despite there is No apps ....I know that the system files are taking some space....but those files only took 4gb when i bought the phone
Now i don't have any apps ,However, there is only free 1.8gb
I tried using clean master,but it only cleaned about 300mb of junks and cache
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Had the same issue. The firmware is in it's own partition with room for updates but some of those files fill up your internal storage as well, they did for me when I updated so the solutions are either use a root file explorer or Titanium Backup app to move some user apps to system apps , use the forum here in XDA for altering your SElinux permissions and enable write permissions to your system partition(WP.MOD_KO) so that you can use Link2SD app to move your user apps to your external SD card or pay to obtain full S off using the Sunshine app and have those permissions plus more enabled at the system level so that you can also use Link2SD app to move user apps to the external SD card.
The last 2 methods are the most used and also require you to reformat your external SD card into 2 partitions using EaseUS PARTITION MANAGER on a P.C. Instructions for doing this are easy and available on Youtube and Google if you want to read them instead. These are really the only ways to help your storage issue other than just not using very many apps. I chose the full S off method and Link2SD but the other works it just alters your SElinux permissions and has to be removed to do stock updates whereas S off doesn't affect stock updates. Only system file changes do like the mod I described.
I also echo the previous posters thoughts on Cleanmaster and most all "task killing" apps. Android has built in RAM management that does a good job on its own of managing memory and there is the on screen square button on the right that shows you open apps and tabs and allows you to quickly close them all out. You'd be better off regulating Wavelocks using Amplify app and Greenify to freeze apps from staying on . Root required and there are paid version but the basics are free in both apps.
I had a brain f**t and misread that you've uninstalled "all" of your apps so the previous poster might be onto something if you've done any TWRP nandroid backups to internal instead of micro storage. They can take up to 2 to 4 gbs just on their own even with compression enabled. If you haven't and even if you have my previous info and advice is still accurate for improved storage space.
On my phone, the .thumbnails folder in DCIM takes 1 GB...
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On my phone, the .thumbnails folder in DCIM takes 1 GB...
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Yeah mine says 550 mb total in thumb data but it is not pictures from my camera like the other few kbs are. Can't open it so I wonder if it's some sort of cache for something else. Don't know all the ins and outs of the Android file structure but I do know that when I started flashing custom roms,CM in particular, my internal storage went up due to the lack of bloatware coming from my stock Rom. Good to know this though. Not going to delete it though for now till I find out what it is.
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Yeah mine says 550 mb total in thumb data but it is not pictures from my camera like the other few kbs are. Can't open it so I wonder if it's some sort of cache for something else. Don't know all the ins and outs of the Android file structure but I do know that when I started flashing custom roms,CM in particular, my internal storage went up due to the lack of bloatware coming from my stock Rom. Good to know this though. Not going to delete it though for now till I find out what it is.
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Some Apps, like WhatsApp save pics in .thumbnails to work smooth, i think.
You can delete them, but they will create themselves at the next boot again, i also tried to write an init.d script which deletes them at boot, but it doesnt work.
Also if you create a file ".thumbnails" which isnt writable, the system doesnt give you the space
Ive read something about creating this file before first boot after flashing so it works, but i havent tried it...
Damn thumbnails
Sorry if my english is horrible ^^
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Some Apps, like WhatsApp save pics in .thumbnails to work smooth, i think.
You can delete them, but they will create themselves at the next boot again, i also tried to write an init.d script which deletes them at boot, but it doesnt work.
Also if you create a file ".thumbnails" which isnt writable, the system doesnt give you the space
Ive read something about creating this file before first boot after flashing so it works, but i havent tried it...
Damn thumbnails
Sorry if my english is horrible ^^
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Your English is perfectly fine. Better even than some to whom English is their "first" language. Thanks for that breakdown and I bet that's what it is. I forgot about the apps storing their stock images in your phone. I used to love using the app called Pocket until I found that it stores all the saved links and images directly on your phone. I saved almost a full gb by deleting it finally. Great app other than that and if I had a device with more storage I'd still have it on my phone instead of just my computer. This is all why it pays to be curious about your own phone storage and learn how to navigate a good root file explorer.