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I haven't found really good explanation on forum and most of post on this seems not to be answered so I'm posting to see if I can get this sorted.
I used Leedroid, InsertCoin, and now on GingerVillian now. All of them had same setting of 500MB ext partition. Problem is I always seems to get low internal memory no matter what ROM I use. Currently I have 394MB free SD-EXT and 16MB Internal.
I moved adobe flash to SD card which seems to free up space and Dalvik Cache is on SD-Ext.
So question is why even though I have lot of EXT space left is it not being used and is there way to make it use it more instead of internal memory?
jinius said:
I haven't found really good explanation on forum and most of post on this seems not to be answered so I'm posting to see if I can get this sorted.
I used Leedroid, InsertCoin, and now on GingerVillian now. All of them had same setting of 500MB ext partition. Problem is I always seems to get low internal memory no matter what ROM I use. Currently I have 394MB free SD-EXT and 16MB Internal.
I moved adobe flash to SD card which seems to free up space and Dalvik Cache is on SD-Ext.
So question is why even though I have lot of EXT space left is it not being used and is there way to make it use it more instead of internal memory?
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App2SD is flawed because of this, say you have an app 20mb, 15mb would be put on to the SD card and the rest go's to internal, so you will still use up space and in the end will have to start uninstalling.
Best way is to use a Rom with data2SD witch give's you 2gb internal memory.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
I have the same problem... I hate it , i have 1 gb for sd-ext3 and i cant enjoy it !
Any ideas ?
wska said:
I have the same problem... I hate it , i have 1 gb for sd-ext3 and i cant enjoy it !
Any ideas ?
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Data2SD RoM problems solved
One could also flash a new hboot which increases the size of the /data-partition. However you need s-off for this and it's imho riskier than flashing a rom with data2sd. Whereas i work with a2sd + cm7 hboot and i am very happy it.
Desire with Cool Sensation v7
Hi,
I have this problem too. but it is not our choice to choose the data2sd instead of app2sd because it depend on what the ROM support.
Previously I use App2sd+ from ModaCo ROM. I have 200+ apps and it take the internal memory nearly full but sd-ext space just half.
I tried the Data2sd for Desire is only SuperNova with HTC Sense and it work in 1Gb sd-ext. BUT it uses Sense 2.1.
I just try Sense 3 from Cool Sensation v7 ROM. I love it and dont want to revert back to previous Sense It have 3D home screen, cool weather animation, SMS secure lock. However this ROM still use app2sd. I cannot post to the thread, I dont have enought post count.
I try some other way to apply Data2sd into this ROM but I got boot loop.
After few days I use this ROM, my internal memory almost full (15mb free) for only 57 apps even the app2sd symlink-ed /data/app, /data/app-private, /data/dalvik-cache and /system/app into sd-ext!
Expert please help me and give me some idea.
Do I need to symlink /data/data into sd-ext manually?
Is it possible to remove app2sd in the ROM and install Data2sd? How?
Data2sd require busybox, init.d and ext4 kernel support. I think this ROM have all this thing.
HTC Desire
Hboot S-Off with Revolutionary
4ExtRecovery
Cool Sensation v7 ROM
8Gb Class 2 sd card with Fat32 + 1Gb ext4
And have some basic in Linux shell
I can 100% get my head around this either, although i did install some apps and i could really tell if it was on Internal or EXT4.
From my understanding, as far as the phone os, it thinks apps are on Internal and will decrease the size counter, but apps are on EXT4 if you use a file manager etc.. but even if all goes to EXT4, we still get that annoying LowDisk message was it get to 15megs...
I still was convinced, but i accidently decided i wanted to format my FAT32 partition, mainly to get rid of all the junk that on there since STOCK Rom. I used the Phone own Format SD Card option.
Well that was fun (NOT!!) it instead formatted the EXT4 and not the FAT32, when i rebooted all the loaded apps that were on EXT4 were now gone.
Phone still works, but one side effect of this is now i have like 270megs free....lol, granted no wallpaper, lockscreens etc,
anyway seeing as i screwed up and that im already S-OFF, im going to just go with CM7r2 HBoot.
Similar issue - I think?
Hi all, my first post here
So I have been working my way through all the error messages and guides and finally have InsertCoin set up. All is looking good except after Titanium Backup restored all my apps my internal memory is as full as before I rooted the phone, so I think I can safely say that the 2gb I partitioned off on my SD is not getting ay use at all? Is there a way I can check?
For the record I am running with AmonRa, and I used Revolutionary to get s-Off. The guide I followed to set up A2SD did not have me using any Terminal commands, so I am guessing that is an area for me to explore in solving this, here is the guide I used (near the end)
/myhtcdesire.com/modding/how-to-install-a-custom-rom-on-your-htc-desire
I used that method as i am on a borrowed mac and it just seemed easier. I
I am hoping there is an easy fix that someone can suggest.
hoads1234 said:
Hi all, my first post here
So I have been working my way through all the error messages and guides and finally have InsertCoin set up. All is looking good except after Titanium Backup restored all my apps my internal memory is as full as before I rooted the phone, so I think I can safely say that the 2gb I partitioned off on my SD is not getting ay use at all? Is there a way I can check?
For the record I am running with AmonRa, and I used Revolutionary to get s-Off. The guide I followed to set up A2SD did not have me using any Terminal commands, so I am guessing that is an area for me to explore in solving this, here is the guide I used (near the end)
/myhtcdesire.com/modding/how-to-install-a-custom-rom-on-your-htc-desire
I used that method as i am on a borrowed mac and it just seemed easier. I
I am hoping there is an easy fix that someone can suggest.
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To check if a2sd is working, open terminal emulator and type
Code:
su
ls -l /data
Output should say (for a2sd):
Code:
app -> /sd-ext/app
app-private -> /sd-ext/app-private
Additionally for a2sd+:
Code:
dalvik-cache -> /sd-ext/dalvik-cache
If it does not show this, a2sd is not working. So make sure you partitioned sd card correctly (fat32 + ext; both primary).
CallMeLaNN said:
Hi,
I have this problem too. but it is not our choice to choose the data2sd instead of app2sd because it depend on what the ROM support.
Previously I use App2sd+ from ModaCo ROM. I have 200+ apps and it take the internal memory nearly full but sd-ext space just half.
I tried the Data2sd for Desire is only SuperNova with HTC Sense and it work in 1Gb sd-ext. BUT it uses Sense 2.1.
I just try Sense 3 from Cool Sensation v7 ROM. I love it and dont want to revert back to previous Sense It have 3D home screen, cool weather animation, SMS secure lock. However this ROM still use app2sd. I cannot post to the thread, I dont have enought post count.
I try some other way to apply Data2sd into this ROM but I got boot loop.
After few days I use this ROM, my internal memory almost full (15mb free) for only 57 apps even the app2sd symlink-ed /data/app, /data/app-private, /data/dalvik-cache and /system/app into sd-ext!
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I used Cool Sensation v7 but didn't have this problem until I flashed the newer v9 (just noticed v10 has been posted today though). My internal memory was very low but I then flashed the Dalvik to sdext.zip from the Cool Sensation thread and then had 180MB internal free. Try that and see if it works. If it doesn't, have you aligned your SD ext using the .zip on the same thread? if not this could be why your having problems, though it didn't work for me.
Thanks for the ideas, I was a bit out of my depth with the Mac SU functions, so although i didn't get the desired feedback you suggested, but it could have been me. So anyway I found a Ubuntu machine and plugged in the SD card in an adapter and can see that there is a successful partition, and that the EXT partition seems to have some files and folders in it.
I have also just noticed that the SD cards partitions also appear in the Titanium Backup overview screen.
So i guess my problem is that the memory is just full! Maybe my expectations of extra memory after rooting were unrealistic. ?
For the Record, just to make sure my situation is normal, in Titanium I see
System ROM - 262MB (129MB free)
Internal - 158MB (15MB free) - is this just a section of system ROM above?
SD CARD - 13.8GB (11GB free)
SD Card (a2sd) - 1.9GB (1.5GB free)
@xybadog this is my update,
@hoads1234 just want to share with you,
I use Cool Sensation v7, the internal memory full can be solved by flashing the additional zip for stock hboot but I flash non stock hboot. Why?
After some studying, now I know why expert keep asking for my hboot. Hboot define the data partition. On the phone memory, it divided into system, cache and data partition. the hboot define the partition size. For stock hboot, you will only have 147Mb for HTC Desire. Whatever the custom ROM symlink'ed some data partition, we stuck on 147Mb. If you flash like CM7r2 hboot, you will get more room (300+Mb) on data but just enough for system. "Internal memory" is referring to data partition.
Now I still have 130Mb free internal memory after installing 90 apps without wiping any cache for about 2 weeks.
I dont have Ubuntu even I know how to use it. No time to install or make virtual machine. To partition your sdcard easily without linux, use 4ExtRecovery. It is CWM based recovery plus support for Ext4 and some features like partitioning, check for aligned sd-ext and mount as disk drive.
To check for your current internal partition. boot into recovery, and use ADB to run command "df -h". The /system /data and /cache is the thing you need to look for.
You could use the cyanogenmod rom, then install s2e app from market. That app is designed purely for use with cyanogenmod. I use this combo, I have a huge amount of apps installed and still 50mb of internal space free. No need for changing your hboot or using data2sd rom. Very simple fix
Sent from my CM7.1 Desire using XDA Premium App
okay thanks, I am still happy having a go with InsertCoin, so I will have a look at the hboot.
I think i read somewhere that i could do it just like adding a new ROM and copying a zip file across, so time for some more forum reading to work my way through this next step.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1110921
okay here is my update, since in have revolutionary hboot, i tried to change to alpharev, so i could use their modified partition tables (found no reference of being able to do this in Revolutionary) - the folks on alpharev irc said not to, but didn't say why.
I did try and use the unrevoked tool to flash AmonRa across again, but this had a waiting for reboot error and may have failed. I have also reflashed my ROM again after a full wipe a couple of times. Not finding any improvements in memory, so will keep fiddling.
okay next question!
I tried the terminal emulator commands (once i worked out this was an app, and not the Mac terminal..) and got the following responses
app -> /system/sd/app
app-private ->
dalvik-cache ->
so am i guessing correctly that none of the apps i download are being sent to the SD partition.
Any advice to get app-private directed to my sd card?
hoads1234 said:
okay next question!
I tried the terminal emulator commands (once i worked out this was an app, and not the Mac terminal..) and got the following responses
app -> /system/sd/app
app-private ->
dalvik-cache ->
so am i guessing correctly that none of the apps i download are being sent to the SD partition.
Any advice to get app-private directed to my sd card?
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I suggest you use ADB instead of terminal emulator because easy to type in PC.
Install Android SDK make ADB shell to work and connected to your device. The shell is just the same what you need to do in terminal emulator.
To move app private and dalvik cache simply make symlink like this:
Code:
busybox cp -a /data/dalvik-cache /system/sd/
rm -rf /data/dalvik-cache
ln -s /system/sd/dalvik-cache /data/dalvik-cache
The first will move all contents, the second will remove the existing original dalvik-cache folder. and the third one will make symlink to point from original location to the sd partition.
Just download ANDROID TERMINAL
EMULATOR from Market and install it(you
must be ROOTED to use it) .
Now just TYPE in Terminal:
Code:
su
a2sd cachesdreset
Now your phone restarts and you get A LOT
of internal memory(I have like 17 apps
installed and I have 124mb of FREE
INTERNAL MEMORY)!
I hav
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I have tried this method and I get this message: a2sd not found.
I have fat32 and ext2 partions on my SD card.
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maybe your rom doesn't have a2sd support.
I get:
EXT partition not mounted.
Cannot move dalvik cache to SD card
Setting file system ready property to 1.
You can use this command only if you have link2sd installed and with an ext mounted. or Rom with a2sd support like my WS rom.
I just searched this and found this to share. cause I noticed my internal memory was 40mb used and ext memory is like 43 not far, and had 99MB left in internal memory, now I typed this in Terminal Emulator and it became 124 mb after restart.
PS: All my apps linked to sd card w/ link2sd
ok, I'm using original HTC Three ROM with Root.
Link2SD is a godsend- NOTE running all Apps off of SD card takes SUBSTANTIALLY more space than linking them to SD using Link2SD and a partition!
However, the a2sd command isn't found as Aef101 stated.
I wonder do we need to swap directories/load a different app to do it if not part of the ROM and not part of Link2SD (unless I've the "wrong one"). Mine is listed as 1.9.1 by Buelnt Akpinar.
this is only for custom rom with darktremor apps2sd.
is there a noticeable loss of speed due to moving the caches off of the flash memory? seems like there might be some instability.
of course that hasn't kept me from doing it! I'll let you know if it craps out or anything. Thanks for the info. check my sig for ROM setup
I'm trying this ROM :
RUU_Marvel_Vodafone_FR_LPM_1.64.192.1_Radio_47.10c.35.3030_7.47.36.19M_release_203694_signed.exe
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cdb...35.3030_7.47.36.19M_release_203694_signed.exe
Everything's good (phoning, rooting, modding, no visual bugs and full french language) except with Jikantaru's tip.
With Terminal Emulator when I enter "a2sd cachesdreset", it says "a2sd: not found"
I don't understand because I installed link2sd and it works fine.
Is there someone who can explain to me.
Do you have a2sd installed? Link2sd may delete a2sd so it doesn't compete. trash them both and go with Data2whatever seems much better.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S using xda premium
Thanks for your explanations. Now, I know why it was not found.
I'd just install a rom with apps2Sd already built in.
A friend of mine bought Wildfire S. His memory stats are 120MB used 30MB free.
I thought 418MB was available to the user. Is this true or not.
Is there any way to increase the internal memory of the phone... apart from links2SD or App2SD
418 MB is total memory with system and default apps. after them 150 mb left for user application.
There is no way to increase internal memory without Link2SD or APP2SD
noob questions. I have 'S-off' my virgin mobile WFS, does it mean it is rooted? When I try to input the 'SU' using the Terminal Emulator, it said permission denied? Thoughts?
azaznbaler said:
noob questions. I have 'S-off' my virgin mobile WFS, does it mean it is rooted? When I try to input the 'SU' using the Terminal Emulator, it said permission denied? Thoughts?
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You still need to root. S-Off is only Step 1... See the Tutorial in the Development Forum.
Update
loveVII said:
You still need to root. S-Off is only Step 1... See the Tutorial in the Development Forum.
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Thanks! I have followed the tutorial for rooting and rooted my virgin mobile WFS. I also downloaded Link2SD, A2SDGUI, busy box from the market. When I run the Terminal Emulator, and input "SU a2sd cachesdreset" it said a2sd permission denied. I have the stock rom, and reading some of the post, does it need a custom rom for this to work?
azaznbaler said:
Thanks! I have followed the tutorial for rooting and rooted my virgin mobile WFS. I also downloaded Link2SD, A2SDGUI, busy box from the market. When I run the Terminal Emulator, and input "SU a2sd cachesdreset" it said a2sd permission denied. I have the stock rom, and reading some of the post, does it need a custom rom for this to work?
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Make sure the "su" command isn't in capital letters.
Alright i tried this command, and it works.
Freed some 90-100 Mb's for me.
Just some things:
1. It takes a hell lot of time for first two or three boots.
2. Whenever you install a new app, it force closes until you restart your phone.
3. Some speed decrease.
Well anyone else having same ****??
Hello Xda'ers,
Recently I installed the MIUI 1.10.8 ROM.
I noticed that A2SD said 0.00 so I partitioned it.
Now it says 458MB at the A2SD section.
But what to do now?
Can't move a lot of apps to SD.
With kindest regards,
Mendel
youve kind of answered your own question, just move the apps that you CAN move to the sd
but if youre really looking for lots of space try data2sd
Hey Elliot,
First of all thanks for the quick response.
Do you mean move to SD like to old way? (Select app -> move to SD)
Because it doesn't say there is more space then normal (On the bottom there is a bar of internal memory). When I move apps to SD it's no different then else (like on stock rom).
if you are looking to make your internal memory increase, then you need data2sd
i would recommend the supernova rom for that
data2sd will basically use an extpartition on your sd card as internal memory
p.s. you can always use the thanks button to say thanks
I figured it out.
I had to activate it in the terminal.
Now i can have infinite apps
Can't find the thanks button, im a noob. where is it?
How to activate A2SD+ in MIUI 1-12.23 via terminal?
Hi XDA,
Its my 1st post on the forum.
My Phone: HTC Desire GSM on Orange.
Rooted. S-Off. MIUI 1-12.23.
Kerell: 2.6.3.7.6-cyangenmod-g8913be3
Baseband: 32.48.00.32U_5.10.05.30
I have recently installed MIUI ROM version 1-12. to 23. I have a 16GB SD partitioned ext3 using Revolutionary recovery. (I used Revolutionary to gain S-OFF)
The Partition went smooth, I created 1.5gb ext3 and 64mb swap.
When booted into MIUI it registers as A2SD+ 1.5GB. Success.
I install my apps and run out of internal space at which poitnt I expect my apps to auto install on the ext partition that I had created. This doesn't happen, why?
Ive searched the XDA forums for the answers but have yet to find a solution.
Do I have to activate A2SD via terminal? if so how? What cmds should I enter?
Id be grateful for a guide to activate A2SD on my device.
Thaks guys!
mcshooter
To activate the built in a2sd:
open terminal and run these commands:
su
a2sd install
To move dalvik cache do:
a2sd cachesd
Hope this helps mate
Hi,
i installed lots of stuff on my play. and now im on 30mb wich is about the lowes state before the phone gets UGLY slow...
So how to gain more memory?
Methods i know are:
1. install apps to sd card - done ofc
2. gaining root -> uninstall stock apps wiht titanium backup - also did this already
3. using Darktremor App2SD scripts for completely moving apps to SD
4. reformat at least I think it'S what they do... needs unlocked BL - don't want to do this.
Did anyone of u test the Darktremor? And can it be applied without data loss somehow? Does it work with the Clockworkmod wich is installed in /system?
Are there any other solutions?
regards
FrEcP
I'd suggest using the setInstallLocation 2 ADB trick, this will let you move any app to your SD card.
thanks - but doesn't it just the the default location to sdcard? So some content will still remain on internal?
just found another nice solution - link2sd (its like the darktremor but since GUI much more user friendly) - just what i searched for
Offtopic:
is there a list of tweaks we can apply without unlocked BL?
The setInstallLocation 2 ADB will allow you to move apps to SD that you couldn't before. Yes, some data will remain in the internal memory, but much less than before.
If you're already using Titanium Backup, use the Integrate updates to system partition (or whatever it's called under Batch) and you'll get a ton of space.
I would recommend using Link2SD. The app is on the market for free, requires root, and moves your apps to another partition on your sd card while leaving a link to it, so the phone still thinks it's in the system memory.
It's very easy to use, though you have to partition the card yourself.
Hi due to memory problems or lack of it with my HTC Desire (tried all the usual unrooted tweaks) I decided to root my phone. I followed a guide from the forum and it was success. I have flashed various ROM’s and had a play but struggled to find a one with a suitable user friendly email program until in the end I opted for RCMix S V2.0 A2SD CM7Hboot from the link below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=988570/
This is similar to my stock ROM which the only issue was lack of space. The other reason I opted for this was I thought it included A2SD which would allow me to move apps etc from internal storage freeing space. I partitioned my SD card using Gparted 1gb ext4 which shows in ES File explorer on the phone.
Problems I have had I can’t flash the radio android flasher wont run on the PC it says the file hasn’t installed properly but I have tried it several times but just the same?
I can’t find A2SD on my phone after installing a few small apps I am all ready getting the low storage message. I downloaded Darktremor Apps2SD from the market but this requires scripts. I downloaded the scripts zip file and added this to the sd card flashed the zip from recovery but on reboot the phone jus stays at the white screen with HTC on it?
So my questions are do I need to flash a radio?
Where is A2SD and how do I use it to free memory?
How do I use my sd card partition?
Regards,
Darren.
was gonna reply then saw your query being mostly resolved here.
for what its worth, that rom has its own guide which may also help you.