I can't seem to tell the difference between some power management apps i got and the default power save feature.
do i really need power management for this phone or is it just fine with the default power saving mode?
DeathBlimp said:
I can't seem to tell the difference between some power management apps i got and the default power save feature.
do i really need power management for this phone or is it just fine with the default power saving mode?
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Depends on your daily usage, I always found it best to underclock. Its keeps the temp down as well as offering great battery savings. Screen of profiles to underclock the CPU to about 548MHz by 192MHZ is great for sleeping.
_Thursday said:
Depends on your daily usage, I always found it best to underclock. Its keeps the temp down as well as offering great battery savings. Screen of profiles to underclock the CPU to about 548MHz by 192MHZ is great for sleeping.
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which app would you recommend instead of the default power saving feature? (or are you saying the default power saving and underclock?)
Easy Battery Saver and Easy Task Killer took my battery from 20 hours to 40 hours.
DeathBlimp said:
which app would you recommend instead of the default power saving feature? (or are you saying the default power saving and underclock?)
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He's talking about rooting your phone, flashing a custom Kernel and then using an CPU control app like System Tuner to change the maximum trequency speeds of your phones CPU. Right now, you phone as stock will use up to the maximum clock speed of 1.5GHz. So if you do what he is recommending you will be limiting that maximum clock speed of your phone thus reducing battery consumption and CPU heat.
More CPU power = more battery consumption.
In my experience power management tools are useless unless you like to them AUTO off things. Personally I like to control all aspects of my phone myself. If my battery gets low I adjust things (like turning off bluetooth and GPS) myself.
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TLJester said:
Easy Battery Saver and Easy Task Killer took my battery from 20 hours to 40 hours.
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Task killers are anti-android. They do nothing useful and piss off your Operating System more than helping anything.. Any background task you kill will restart itself anyways using more battery power than just leaving it running. That is unless you have an app that is hanging and therefore you can use the built in Task Manger to kill that.
As stated in previous post, power management apps just shut things off at certain battery levels or certain phone status. You can use them if you want to help manage everything. For some they help quite a bit if your not used to dealing with it yourself but for other, like me, they are just more annoying. I do, however, recommend trying a different one than the built in one if you want to use one. Maybe the one recommended here is a good one.
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I need educated on a few things, I'm concerned with the performance of my phone so I have it rooted and I have installed system panel to monitor things, autokill memory optimizer for ram of course as well as watchdog to alert me if any apps are outta control. Am I crazy for having these or is it a good idea? Also is there anything better I should use rather then what I already have? I just want my phone to run smooth and my battery to last bc I use my phone all day long
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trembly01 said:
I need educated on a few things, I'm concerned with the performance of my phone so I have it rooted and I have installed system panel to monitor things, autokill memory optimizer for ram of course as well as watchdog to alert me if any apps are outta control. Am I crazy for having these or is it a good idea? Also is there anything better I should use rather then what I already have? I just want my phone to run smooth and my battery to last bc I use my phone all day long
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A lot of that is unneeded. I have System Panel, but only use it if I'm having problems with an app. Rarely is there a use for watchdog. On stable ROMs, I've never seen an app get out of control, and rarely on betas. So it justs sits in the background eating battery itself. Also try, using a stock speed, undervolted battery with SetCPU. If I'm trying to make mine last, I have a screen off profile of powersave 384/245, and regular of 700-800ish (I forget)/245 conservative.
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A lot of that is unneeded. I have System Panel, but only use it if I'm having problems with an app. Rarely is there a use for watchdog. On stable ROMs, I've never seen an app get out of control, and rarely on betas. So it justs sits in the background eating battery itself. Also try, using a stock speed, undervolted battery with SetCPU. If I'm trying to make mine last, I have a screen off profile of powersave 384/245, and regular of 700-800ish (I forget)/245 conservative.
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ok thanks, i installed setcpu and have two profiles set, one for when screen is off with settings similar to yours and another set to when my battery is >30%. could you please tell me what the governor options of on demand, userspace, or performance mean ?? also should i set priority's to anything other then the default 50 % ? thanks for the help
I finally got srf 1.2 to work really good. I have a few questions about voltage control.
1. Is it safe to overclock and undervolt?
2. What advantages will I see from undervolting, longer battery life?
3. Does overclocking really make that much difference, and is it safe?
4. Is there a how to, or a guide that can show me how to do it?
Thanks
Yes its safe just don't use the set on boot feature. As for battery improvement some people notice a difference and others don't I personally do undervolt. As for the guide just mess around with it for a while everyone Has different Preferences so results will always be different. I don't undervolt below 75 cause when I do I get lock ups. If you lock up just pull the battery and you'll be fine. I also recommend to use journaling ON cause if you lock up and pull the battery with journaling off you might get data corruption.
Hope this helps.
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Yeah that helped but I really just don't know how to use it.
Led4lyf said:
I finally got srf 1.2 to work really good. I have a few questions about voltage control.
1. Is it safe to overclock and undervolt?
2. What advantages will I see from undervolting, longer battery life?
3. Does overclocking really make that much difference, and is it safe?
4. Is there a how to, or a guide that can show me how to do it?
Thanks
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What kernel are you on?
I'm on Twilight and can overclock to 1.3ghz with full stability. I don't undervolt. Combination of my phone doesn't like it and I'm not looking to save that little battery to get wakelocks (phone doesn't come out of sleep mode because the processor speed is too slow or doesn't have enough juice to make that push.)
If you're using a kernel that can go to 1.4 or 1.5 test it for a while before you save your settings. Also consider buying the paid version. It allows over volting which may allow you to supply enough power if 1.4 or 1.5 causes freezes.
The app is pretty basic. The top bar on the first screen is how low you allow the processor to go in speed. The bottom is how fast. Lower than 100 mhz causes wakelock for me. Or used to. Haven't tried since. My settings are 200-1300 mhz. Second page is voltages. They start at default. If you have extreme, moving them to the right will overvolt and give those speeds extra power. Moving the slider to the left undervolts. Some people can only undervolt at the lowest speeds of say 100-400 mhz. It's a lot of trial and error. Have fun though!
So on the main page my settings are 200-1300, then I press apply settings. How can I tell If it is working, it does not seem that much faster? Do I have to set this every time I turn my phone on? Do I want to save thos for boot up?
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So on the main page my settings are 200-1300, then I press apply settings. How can I tell If it is working, it does not seem that much faster? Do I have to set this every time I turn my phone on? Do I want to save thos for boot up?
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It wont make it much faster
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Led4lyf said:
So on the main page my settings are 200-1300, then I press apply settings. How can I tell If it is working, it does not seem that much faster? Do I have to set this every time I turn my phone on? Do I want to save thos for boot up?
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When you turn your phone off then on, does it show those same settings? The speed boost will be slight. It's not like we're resurrecting Jesus here.
I'm new here & making this thread in order to share my own experience plus what I've learned from others since there're a lot of concerns regarding battery life.
Followings are what identified as the most power consumption sources and we'll fix them 1 by 1:
1. HD screen: I usually set the display brightness manually to about 15-20%. It is quite acceptable as I almost stay indoor at day time (surely this will make your screen nearly blind at this level if you try it outdoor under sunset)
2. Duo core 1.5GHz CPU: Having your CPU at this speed makes your phone soooo hot for heavy tasks. I use SetCPU to set the speed to 1188Mhz max and 192MHz min and also use SetCPU to enable the Screen Off profile where the max & min speed both set to 192MHz (there're no reasons to run it at high speed when the screen is off, right?).
3. The stock home launcher: I found the stock launcher (called LG Home) always takes a high portion of battery so I replace it with Go Launcher. This app also has a nice feature where you can see and close all running programs so you won't have to install another task killer.
4. Bloatware: Firstly, install Titanium Backup and "Freeze" whatever bloatware you found in this list (thanks youngv408) including the LG Home but only after you install & use Go Launcher. Secondly, install Gemini App Manager, at its home screen you will see running apps, for each of them that you don't want them to autorun (no more running in background & no more auto restart if you kill it), tap on the app name > choose More Operation > Config "Autorun" (root) > disable all of its autorun options (don't ever disable or freeze the Go Launcher if you are using it!)
Above tips keep my boy easily survive 1 day with 50% battery left (with 5,6 phone calls, some SMS, some 3G for web & downloading and little gaming). Hope they help.
All good tips, thanks!
Some good suggestions except for maybe #2. Personally, I found SetCPU had a dramatic negative effect on my battery life. Uninstalling it netted me several more hours with average usage immediately. Also, don't use task killers other than the built-in features of Gingerbread to kill a misbehaving app. The OS already does a good job managing running apps. Turn off GPS because some apps like to ping your current location occasionally and GPS uses a lot of juice. Finally, make sure apps like Facebook, Twitter, Google Plus, Google Currents, Gmail, etc. aren't set to sync too frequently.
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Some good suggestions except for maybe #2. Personally, I found SetCPU had a dramatic negative effect on my battery life.
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According to battery use info smaller cpu clock resulted in more cpu total time usage
This battery gets better everyday... never had this experience with another phone.
Weird is, that after i no-bloated and did some tweaking in the beginning, the batterylife was still very disappointing. It seems that it is growing with the user...
we can turn off wifi or 3g if we don't use them,so we can extend the time
There is no doubt that HTC One X is the most powerful phone on the market yet, despite it's stock of amazing hardware features it also has a few lacks. And on of the biggest perhaps is the short battery life, but with a few tricks and modifications it is possible to overcome that and so increase the battery life of the best phone yet.
Well I found 6 tricks and extras that can really increase your battery life up to 20%:
1. KILL APPS USING TASK MANAGER
Notice or not but there are a lot of apps and services running in the background of your phone that suck a lot of battery and most of them are apps that you wouldn't need so killing those processes can increase your battery life.
To kill apps you have to access the task manager:
Press home icon>all apps>search for task manager and launch it.
Now you have the option of killing separate apps (press X on the process you want to end) or just ending the all by touching the stop all button.
2. Closing open Apps
A great feature in htc one x is also that you switch between open apps but it can also take a lot of battery depending on how many Apps you =have open.
How to close open Apps:
Touch the recent app button (in right to the home button)> now swipe the open Apps (the ones you want to close) to the top.
3.Disable Transition Animation
Transition Animation also take a lot of batter since the require more ram and disabling them can also increase your ram therewith your overall system performance.
How to Disable Transition Animation:
Go Settings>Display & gestures> uncheck the Animation bar
4. External Battery
Well there is always an option of getting an external portable battery which is quit inexpensive and can double your battery life.
5.System directory Modification
Just a few weeks ago a member (mike1986) posted about a file or directory displacement made by HTC that caused the short battery life. And now you can correct it and you could boost you battery life by up to 20%.
LINK TO mike1986 POST
6.Battery Save App
A battery save app could also be a life save as you can monitor exactly how much on what you're spending and then configure power save modes using apps such as Easy Battery Saver.
You can also turn off services such as 3g/WiFi/GPS to save battery consumption advanced users can also scale the CPU and more system operation with such brilliant app as JuiceDefender - battery saver.
RECOMMENDED BATTERY SAVER APPS:
*JuiceDefender - battery saver* Free
JuiceDefender Ultimate Cost Money
Easy Battery Saver Free
Conclusion:
Following those six step should improve your battery life a lot and should therewith resolve the major issue with the HTC One X.
:goodlease Comment and Thank if you think that this post was helpful.:laugh:
Hi
HRandev said:
There is no doubt that HTC One X is the most powerful phone on the market yet, despite it's stock of amazing hardware features it also has a few lacks. And on of the biggest perhaps is the short battery life, but with a few tricks and modifications it is possible to overcome that and so increase the battery life of the best phone yet.
Well I found 5 tricks and extras that can really increase your battery life up to 20%:
1. KILL APPS USING TASK MANAGER
Notice or not but there are a lot of apps and services running in the background of your phone that suck a lot of battery and most of them are apps that you wouldn't need so killing those processes can increase your battery life.
To kill apps you have to access the task manager:
Press home icon>all apps>search for task manager and launch it.
Now you have the option of killing separate apps (press X on the process you want to end) or just ending the all by touching the stop all button.
2. Closing open Apps
A great feature in htc one x is also that you switch between open apps but it can also take a lot of battery depending on how many Apps you =have open.
How to close open Apps:
Touch the recent app button (in right to the home button)> now swipe the open Apps (the ones you want to close) to the top.
3.Disable Transition Animation
Transition Animation also take a lot of batter since the require more ram and disabling them can also increase your ram therewith your overall system performance.
How to Disable Transition Animation:
Go Settings>Display & gestures> uncheck the Animation bar
4. External Battery
Well there is always an option of getting an external portable battery which is quit inexpensive and can double your battery life.
5.System directory Modification
Just a few weeks ago a member (mike1986) posted about a file or directory displacement made by HTC that caused the short battery life. And now you can correct it and you could boost you battery life by up to 20%.
LINK TO mike1986 POST
Conclusion:
Following those five step should improve your battery life a lot and should therewith resolve the major issue with the HTC One X.
:goodlease Comment and Thank if you think that this post was helpful.:laugh:
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The biggest drain is the screen, so turn down the brightness.
Those other tips are probably more a placebo, and killing tasks is a bad idea on Android. Most of the apps are just loaded into memory but not actively running so not using power, and when your phone screen is off, nothing is running (unless you have a badly behaved application that is). Even if you have most of your memory empty of applications, those memory chips are still drawing the same power regardless, so it makes sense to keep applications in memory. Why? Because when you want to use the app again, the phone doesn't have to waste CPU cycles and power loading the application from the flash memory, then loading the applications saved state, so power is saved. If you never use the app again, and memory is short, it gets unloaded.
There is also the school of thought that if you shut down all background applications and so you lose functionality (background status updates, location services, push mail services, animations, weather displays etc), you then haven't got much of a smart phone!
The system directory modification related to an old version of the firmware, I doubt anyone is effect by that issue now.
Regards
Phil
It wouldn't effect your internal system apps
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The biggest drain is the screen, so turn down the brightness.
Those other tips are probably more a placebo, and killing tasks is a bad idea on Android. Most of the apps are just loaded into memory but not actively running so not using power, and when your phone screen is off, nothing is running (unless you have a badly behaved application that is). Even if you have most of your memory empty of applications, those memory chips are still drawing the same power regardless, so it makes sense to keep applications in memory. Why? Because when you want to use the app again, the phone doesn't have to waste CPU cycles and power loading the application from the flash memory, then loading the applications saved state, so power is saved. If you never use the app again, and memory is short, it gets unloaded.
There is also the school of thought that if you shut down all background applications and so you lose functionality (background status updates, location services, push mail services, animations, weather displays etc), you then haven't got much of a smart phone!
The system directory modification related to an old version of the firmware, I doubt anyone is effect by that issue now.
Regards
Phil
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I do appreciate your replay but it only shows you those task that are running separately (not internal system apps) and if you kill them it does make a difference in the overall performance. And some operations like navigation running in the background continuously uses GPS and even Data constantly, so if you end it, it does make a difference.
You are right with the screen brightness, I thought about it and came to a conclusion to just leave it at auto because no one would like a dim display.
So it wouldn't completely turn off your data or calls or corrupt your system since you wouldn't terminate any internal system apps
regards,
HRanDev
PhilipL said:
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The biggest drain is the screen, so turn down the brightness.
Those other tips are probably more a placebo, and killing tasks is a bad idea on Android.
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And also control 3G/WiFi/BT radios as and when needed , there are battery saver apps like Juice defender that intelligently turn off 3G and data connections.
Advanced users can also play around with custom kernels, CPU speed settings and Kernel governors, etc.. (can help with custom ROMs)
Thanks for the tip, I added it to it.
Actually agree with PhilipL.
Killing or managing tasks in Android is a placebo - and is likely to do more harm (in terms of battery life) than good. Plenty of articles if you google saying task managers are a bad idea.
However, managing screen brightness and background services will help enormously.
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Hey all,
I wasn't able to find any conclusive details regarding this topic, maybe you guys can shed some light for me:
In the hidden HTC powersaver options for the HOX, we have the option to use "Reduce CPU speed"- which is set to 'on' by default and its function being explained as then only using a single cpu core and reducing the speed to 1Ghz.
Even though the explanation is rather straight forward I'd like to know exactly what this option does.
Does that mean the CPU is throttled for 'normal use' like browsing, using simple apps, (...) only and is being reverted to its full capacity when (eg) playing games? Or in other words, where exactly is the threshold here?
I find my HOX a lot smoother in response (ie scrolling, surfing) when de-activating this option but battery drain also seems to go way up.
Thanks guys.
Murdock80 said:
Hey all,
I wasn't able to find any conclusive details regarding this topic, maybe you guys can shed some light for me:
In the hidden HTC powersaver options for the HOX, we have the option to use "Reduce CPU speed"- which is set to 'on' by default and its function being explained as then only using a single cpu core and reducing the speed to 1Ghz.
Even though the explanation is rather straight forward I'd like to know exactly what this option does.
Does that mean the CPU is throttled for 'normal use' like browsing, using simple apps, (...) only and is being reverted to its full capacity when (eg) playing games? Or in other words, where exactly is the threshold here?
I find my HOX a lot smoother in response (ie scrolling, surfing) when de-activating this option but battery drain also seems to go way up.
Thanks guys.
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When battery is below 30%, speed is capped to 1Ghz single core with UI at 30fps
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When battery is below 30%, speed is capped to 1Ghz single core with UI at 30fps
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Alright, did not realise those options only applied to the system when battery is below 30%.
Thanks for the quick reply mate!
Murdock80 said:
Hey all,
I wasn't able to find any conclusive details regarding this topic, maybe you guys can shed some light for me:
In the hidden HTC powersaver options for the HOX, we have the option to use "Reduce CPU speed"- which is set to 'on' by default and its function being explained as then only using a single cpu core and reducing the speed to 1Ghz.
Even though the explanation is rather straight forward I'd like to know exactly what this option does.
Does that mean the CPU is throttled for 'normal use' like browsing, using simple apps, (...) only and is being reverted to its full capacity when (eg) playing games? Or in other words, where exactly is the threshold here?
I find my HOX a lot smoother in response (ie scrolling, surfing) when de-activating this option but battery drain also seems to go way up.
Thanks guys.
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where is this option in HOX?
Best regards,
Deependra
dtandukar said:
where is this option in HOX?
Best regards,
Deependra
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Its hidden in the settings, you can access it through downloading Minimalistic Text in the play store then set up a temporary widget that leads to settings under activities and search for power saver settings. Then just tap on the widget and it should lead you directly there/
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Its hidden in the settings, you can access it through downloading Minimalistic Text in the play store then set up a temporary widget that leads to settings under activities and search for power saver settings. Then just tap on the widget and it should lead you directly there/
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simpler way is to download an app called 'hidden settings' from play store
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simpler way is to download an app called 'hidden settings' from play store
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^^ thanks!
Are all of these options on this tab only effective on a battery lower than 30% because some of them say that the data conection is only on with the screen on..
And If it's only on a lower 30% battery I will leave them on otherwise I will just turn them of.