I know there is probably an app for that.
But I mean speed dial. I want to open the phone app (which, in my scenario, defaults to the keypad), and long-press a number to quick-dial someone.
My boss can go from "we need to call x", to actually dialing on his blackberry in about 1.5 seconds.
I have to unlock, wait for the screen to actually respond (since it freezes for that half second after unlocking), hit the people tile, hit the "work" group, find the contact, tap it. Then tap "call".
I could pin that group to the main page, yes. But that's beside the point.
My old windows mobile device had 99 spots for speed dial numbers. Please Microsoft. Just let us speed dial.
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While I'm on this, there should be a more business-friendly setup available. In my "work" group, I don't care "what's new" or what pictures they've uploaded to facebook.
You can also voice command "call xxx" via lock screen (if enabled) or even bluetooth without touching the phone (on windows phone).
I used a blackberry for years, and as phones they are amazing. I have yet to see any touchscreen phone than is as quick for things such as calling (without voice) as a BB. Its very efficient at that. Dedicated call/end buttons are always nice as well.
But yes, we do need smart dialing. Vote for it here:
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...s/suggestions/2281390-smart-dailing?ref=title
There are indeed plenty of apps for that
Which application can be natively put into the default phone dialer to speed dial with long press the number?
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Which application can be natively put into the default phone dialer to speed dial with long press the number?
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Not possible as of yet.
The best dialer I've found on the Marketplace so far is 7Dialer. It doesn't quite have a speed dial function, but you can pin contacts to the dialer, making calls and texts just a swipe and a tap away. Very quick. And it looks very nice (conforms to Metro and the native dialer). Also has the smart dial/search functionality so you can hit some numbers to narrow people for fast searching.
But why is MS overlooking what would seem to be such a basic feature as speed dialing? Old home phones from the 90s can do this.
Admitted I do not use speed dialing but I am sure some other people do.
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But why is MS overlooking what would seem to be such a basic feature as speed dialing? Old home phones from the 90s can do this.
Admitted I do not use speed dialing but I am sure some other people do.
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Microsoft has not overlooked Speed Dialing, Windows Phone simply does it in a different way using a pinned tile. Pin a live tile, tap it and tap a number. It serves the same purpose and it follows Microsoft people-first/Metro UI methodology.
Everyone is so used to things working one way, that they can't get used to or are unwilling to get used to doing things a different way. All part of Microsoft's uphill battle. Using new design paradigms and being different requires people to change, and sometimes people just don't want to, which is totally understandable. The way things work on Windows Phone may not be for everyone, but there are advantages if you take the time to learn and use the functions of the phone the way they were intended.
This is not just a Microsoft thing, this is just the way that things work when you introduce change.
Yeah, pinning the contact is the metro style speed dial.
Another thing I see people constantly complaining about is not having a smart dialer with the keypad, but I just type out the name in the "call log" and it pops up, same concept, and if it isn't there, you hit "search contacts, and bam...
I honestly rarely used speed dial, so I may be biased here. I tried to a few times, hated it, I like this way more.
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Microsoft has not overlooked Speed Dialing, Windows Phone simply does it in a different way using a pinned tile. Pin a live tile, tap it and tap a number. It serves the same purpose and it follows Microsoft people-first/Metro UI methodology.
Everyone is so used to things working one way, that they can't get used to or are unwilling to get used to doing things a different way. All part of Microsoft's uphill battle. Using new design paradigms and being different requires people to change, and sometimes people just don't want to, which is totally understandable. The way things work on Windows Phone may not be for everyone, but there are advantages if you take the time to learn and use the functions of the phone the way they were intended.
This is not just a Microsoft thing, this is just the way that things work when you introduce change.
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The problem, though, is that the "metro way" is no more efficient than an "old-fashioned" speed dialer. Plus, it further crowds and already overcrowded start screen. If someone were to follow every suggestion in this forum for how to just pin a live tile every time they wanted to do something, they would soon have hundreds of tiles cluttering the start screen.
It seems to me that Microsoft is trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist. Change for its own sake doesn't necessarily make things better.
TIP - Pin a User Group for quick access.
FiyaFleye said:
Yeah, pinning the contact is the metro style speed dial.
Another thing I see people constantly complaining about is not having a smart dialer with the keypad, but I just type out the name in the "call log" and it pops up, same concept, and if it isn't there, you hit "search contacts, and bam...
I honestly rarely used speed dial, so I may be biased here. I tried to a few times, hated it, I like this way more.
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Creating a group and pinning it is probably a better option though. Once the group is pinned, you tap the group, and see just those in the group. Then tap the contact from the group. Then select the number.
That way you don't need to add a tile for every speed dial contact.
It's 1 more tap than the old speed dial. Press phone. Press number. Press talk. Or was it press and hold number. Or was it press first digit and press and hold next digit. I think depending on the phone, it was all of these in the past.
This. Tap group. Tap Contact. Tap communication method.
With speed dial you needed to memorize what number you saved them under. This lets you know with out memorizing a number who you are going to call and how.
I wouldn't be surprised if they add smart dialing in the future. Maybe with Apollo. It is one of those efficient, productivity issues that should be a given with any smartphone imo.
I shall be surprised Microsoft will implement press and hold number digit to speed dial a phone number for WP. Microsoft think in a different way to dial most-used phone number in such a way to pin that contact as the live tile. There is no application around currently work as previous smart phone saying Anna or Belle. Apple also did not implement such kind of speed dial but a favourite in a tab of the iphone native phone dialer. I am used to the press and hold number speed dial despite I have to memorize which phone contact is set of which number digit.
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The problem, though, is that the "metro way" is no more efficient than an "old-fashioned" speed dialer. Plus, it further crowds and already overcrowded start screen. If someone were to follow every suggestion in this forum for how to just pin a live tile every time they wanted to do something, they would soon have hundreds of tiles cluttering the start screen.
It seems to me that Microsoft is trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist. Change for its own sake doesn't necessarily make things better.
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Most of the time, its purely personal preference. And very rarely these days do I see people using "old fashioned speed dial" as it used to be pre-smartphone. Our smartphones are much smarter than having to hold down a single physical button to call someone (and thus, more complicated).
You throw the same concept onto a smartphone and you don't get the same result. You press the power button, swipe/pinch/tap/slide/triple-tap/whatever/dance/smile/sing/talk to make the lockscreen go away, tap the phone/dialer application, bring up the dial pad if its not automatically displayed, and THEN finally hold down a single digital digit to make it dial someone. This is not speed dial. The problem doesn't exist because speed dial the way we know it does not exist on a smartphone. You've got some shortcuts and apps and methods to make dialing easier, but there is no real speed dial on a smartphone.
Every phone has a different way of doing it, if it even has such functionality to begin with.
I didn't say that the "metro way" was more or less efficient than any other speed dial method on a smartphone, but it does follow Microsoft's whole people-first/social methodology instead of trying to emulate the function of a hardware button that simply does not work the same way on a smartphone. Microsoft didn't just copy everyone and throw the speed dial thing in there for the sake of it. Neither was the change/push to make your favorite things a pinned live tile(s) a change for its own sake. It has a purpose, and as a people-centric/social platform, that purpose is to bring your phone to life. Your contact is more than just a number you hold down and press. And yes, everyone may not like it, but to really appreciate this platform is to understand why Microsoft made certain things work the way they do and why Microsoft said hey, "If we really want people to buy into this whole live tile thing, we've gotta push it hard and show people that there are different ways to send and get information, and yes, even a different way of making a phone call." That they probably left a lot of old, tired and standard ideas on the chopping block because they believe in their platform and in how they designed their software, and that just adding speed dial to make that small percentage of people who still use it happy shows neither faith in what they originally set out to do nor faith in their ideas and concepts.
Certainly not change for the sake of it. Its because Windows Phone 7's sole purpose was change. This has been their whole spiel all along - to be different. And certainly some people won't like it, and that's fine, maybe Windows Phone 7 isn't for you. But if you can take a step back and look at some of things that Microsoft has done with the platform, to surface information and to bring things to life, I'm sure most people will clearly see that the method that they have chosen for their own platform exemplifies and brings out the best qualities and features of the platform, and fits perfectly into putting people first. That there is more than just one way to speed dial a contact yet still get more out of it than just a phone call at the same time.
Take some time and embrace how Windows Phone thinks you can do and accomplish things, and if you don't like it, then hey, Android and iOS are still out there. No harm done.
Also, there are only so many digits you can assign speed dial to, so unless you really just like everything, then you probably won't run into an issue of having too many tiles on your Start screen. The same issue presents itself on any other platform as well. You can have 100s of app icons on iOS, or 100s of widgets on your 100 Android home screens. Take your pick.
I wish they just let me type in the dialer and scan for both the phone number and the name (t9). And the phone number search should skip country code and other prefixed code (unlike the mango api which searches for a number with an exact match ) eg if I want to find 061234 it should also return 003161234 and +3161234 and vice versa.
This alone would kill all the need for a quick/smart dialer. I am aware of typing in the call log, yet you still have to click the name and than tap on the phone number.
TIP on dialing from history
Marvin_S said:
I wish they just let me type in the dialer and scan for both the phone number and the name (t9). And the phone number search should skip country code and other prefixed code (unlike the mango api which searches for a number with an exact match ) eg if I want to find 061234 it should also return 003161234 and +3161234 and vice versa.
This alone would kill all the need for a quick/smart dialer. I am aware of typing in the call log, yet you still have to click the name and than tap on the phone number.
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Actually, from history, if instead of tapping the name, you tap the phone icon to the left of the name, it will immediately dial the number last used for that contact.
Not exactly what you are asking for but if you press a number followed by a # in the dialer, it will show you the contact phone associated with it and the option to call it. The hard thing would be to find which is the number associated with the phone number of your interest.
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Hi folks,
I have found it from time to time too easy to dial a contact resulting in an accidental dial to someone. This is usually due to the fact that I thought I was selecting a contact when tapping on it rather than immediately dialling the number. Perhaps I am too new to the TP2 and Windows Mobile phoning, but it seems to me that it would be useful to have a popup yes/no window to confirm that you want to dial out.
It is a bit like the delete in the email section which deletes without confirmation. I accidentally selected a few emails and then accidentally tapped delete and then saw half my email disappear.. No big deal. But no confirmation box or undo facility that I could see.
Perhaps there is a way of altering the behaviour for the above...???
Any thoughts appreciated....
Sam
Same here. On the missed calls screen I always tap a contact to go to their contact card, but instead I obviously call them immediately.
For me it is just the change from going from Symbian to WM...
I'll get used to it eventually
I think that an extra "Are you sure you wanted to do what you did?" screen would get REALLY irritating very quickly
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I think that an extra "Are you sure you wanted to do what you did?" screen would get REALLY irritating very quickly
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True.
However the number of times I have accidental touched a contact name (even during call) does make you wonder...
I ended up installing Pocket Shield to prevent it and handle the much to sensitive power button.
rbroudo said:
True.
However the number of times I have accidental touched a contact name (even during call) does make you wonder...
I ended up installing Pocket Shield to prevent it and handle the much to sensitive power button.
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So you have PocketShield really running correctly?
I tried, but it's a weird program - installation is correct, changing parameters etc. is no problem, but when it should cick in it gives me errors.
Hi,
The PocketShield Program is an interesting program and potentially solves issues that I have not come across yet probably cos I am new to WM6.1. However I can see the touch screen being a problem, so good find.
HOWEVER.... I do not think this solves my underlying question and that is that once you tap on the contact be it accidental or not it will dial and I think it would be good to have the option of having a "confirm" screen. This is also true with "delete" for the email inbox. I have yet again accidentally deleted an email and even could not get it out of the "Deleted" folder.
Sam
Same problem for me.
I found that the contact sorted top on TouchFlo favourites page would get dialled accidentally. I solved this by setting the default number for a contact to be a dummy invalid number. So now at least no call is made when the contact is dialled by accident. This approach may work elsewhere. Not ideal but...
i use my TP2 for both personal and work, and its on 24/7, but i would like to automatically divert business calls(as defind in the caterogy section in outlook, when you hit edit contact - more)
ideally iwould like to be able to select a category and choose if i want ot divert that to voicemail
if it could also define it to auto divert the category based on day and time and if possible based on calender entry or defineable.
also if it could change my profile as well that would be amazing.
so does anyone know how i could go about doing this
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i use my TP2 for both personal and work, and its on 24/7, but i would like to automatically divert business calls(as defind in the caterogy section in outlook, when you hit edit contact - more)
ideally iwould like to be able to select a category and choose if i want ot divert that to voicemail
if it could also define it to auto divert the category based on day and time and if possible based on calender entry or defineable.
also if it could change my profile as well that would be amazing.
so does anyone know how i could go about doing this
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I'd strongly recommend "Magicall" by Mobiion ( http://www.mobiion.com/magicall.html )
It can definitely divert via Category; not sure if it can do it by the type of number (business; home) as I've not tried that yet
-Steve
thefixer said:
I'd strongly recommend "Magicall" by Mobiion ( http://www.mobiion.com/magicall.html )
It can definitely divert via Category; not sure if it can do it by the type of number (business; home) as I've not tried that yet
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that is perfect (on the face of it, havnt tested it in the field as yet) i just want to block certain people during certian times, and they are stored ascertain categories.
i hope that the "hang up" option diverts to my voice mail,
and to be able to SMS them as "sorry im on holiday" text is just the iceing on the cake
thanks
monkeyturnip said:
that is perfect (on the face of it, havnt tested it in the field as yet) i just want to block certain people during certian times, and they are stored ascertain categories.
i hope that the "hang up" option diverts to my voice mail,
and to be able to SMS them as "sorry im on holiday" text is just the iceing on the cake
thanks
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Yes - that's exactly what 'hangup' does (same as pressing the red button on any other mobile.
I do think it's a little confusing as to what magicall has named the following operations:
Magicall 'Ignore' = Do nothing, other than mute the ringer
Magicall 'Hangup' = Divert Immediately to voicemail (i.e. 'do not disturb')
I use Magicall primarily for handling outgoing International and/or calls to mobiles. I have different international calling cards set up, and whenever I dial anything other than a US domestic number I get Magicall to change the outgoing number and use a calling card. Saves me $$$, and allows me to use different calling cards for different countries/types of call automatically.
I'm considering writing a small app that will allow me to set and/or toggle individual rules within Magicall for a period of time (I often want to just hit a 'do not disturb' button as I get called into an unscheduled meeting, diverting most calls to VM without actually turning off the phone or manually creating a meeting to say I'm busy)
As you hit the button it would allow you to specify a time period; if that was about to expire the phone would vibrate to alert you, if you did nothing the rule would be re-enabled). I've only been using Magicall for a couple of weeks, but I think this would be a very useful addon (and would work well - there's already a command line interface for external apps to control rules)
If anyone thinks that would be useful, let me know - not sure how many Magicall users there are around here! (I'm not associated with them - just a happy customer!)
-Steve
First a disclaimer: I have searched for this quite a bit, but with software updates happening so quickly, and so many different roms out there its hard to find a conclusive answer, and different people have different needs, and with my searching at least, I have not found the answer to my specific question.
So I'm new to the Android thing, coming off a Blackberry 9700. I'm trying to figure out this whol voice dialing thing, and the only conclusion I can come to, is they based this on 1980's voice dialing software. I should mention Its rooted running CM6.
So here's the problem. I want to just push the button on my BT headset like I would with my Previous BB, HTC touch or even Samsung a920 an say "call bob". If the message was not heard, or if there is more than one Bob, I want it to say something along the lines of either "say again" or "did you mean "bob smith" or "call bob mobile or office" at which point it waits for my response and then dials.
What happens is I say "call bob". If it doesn't understand it just gives an error at which point I have to hit cancel on the phone, push the BT button once to close the connection, then again to try again. If at that point it registers, it then gives me a list of close matches with which I have to choose the correct option on the phone. What else I don't want it to do (Which it is doing quite a bit) is just randomly start to dial a string of 10 digit numbers that sound nothing like "Bob".
I can't imagine that with all of Android's/Froyo's advancements on the smartphone front that they would neglect something so important. Especially with all the new hands free laws coming into effect.
So to make a long story short, does the HTC desire/Android/Froyo/CM6 have true totally handsfree dialing? In other words can I dial a contact from my bluetooth headset without ever having to touch my phone? What am I missing here?
I searched for this subject in the forums and didn't find anything so i'm sorry if it's already there.!!
anyway
you all know that there is an alternative way to call your customer service
which is insted of calling their number (i.e 1100) you can just write
*1100# and hit dial
a few options will appear and then you can choose any of them by inserting its number and hit OK.
the problem is
you can't show the keyboard to insert the number..
and also there is no balnk at all to fill it with the number !!
it's a basic thing in any phone.. do you think MS missed it ??
Your wp7 version?
Miss it
Yes, MS clearly miss it big time! I try this one *100# in my country for a long time and didn`t work..also in WP7, also in NoDo...I don`t know in Mango...but it wouldn`t be a surprise not to work. I hope they already did something...
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tried it both on Nodo and Mango..
So, it's different from a normal call? Because in a normal call you should have a show keyboard button.
I really don't know what you are talking about.
I have the option to dail *100# which will bring up a Message that shows how much money I have left (prepaid) and it works fine just like on any other phone.
When you dail and you talk to the machine which says "press 1 to go to xxx" you can also use the keyboard to press 1 or enter any code or so.
Why not just copy/paste it the numbers from somewhere to the dialer, or make a contact and copy/paste the number in ?
Why don't you just have an entry for customer services in your phonebook? or just call them? It's easier to call 1100 than *1100#x anyway, surely?
what he means is this:
i dial *123# on my phone. it takes me to MY SPECIFIC operator's menu service. from which, on most phones, i can type 1, 2, 3, 4 etc. to access specific services.
for example, 1 allows me to check my balance. 2 allows me to activate a monthly SMS pack and takes away some money from my pay-as-you-go (prepaid) balance.
now when i type *123# it calls, and then displays the menu in the form of a toast notification (it's a screen similar to the volume up/down song change screen. you know, grey background and all.
the menu says, "Welcome to blahdyblah... enter 1 for x, 2 for y, 3 for z, etc."
BUT. now there's no way to access the SIP (the keyboard). wham, you're stuck.
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what he means is this:
i dial *123# on my phone. it takes me to MY SPECIFIC operator's menu service. from which, on most phones, i can type 1, 2, 3, 4 etc. to access specific services.
for example, 1 allows me to check my balance. 2 allows me to activate a monthly SMS pack and takes away some money from my pay-as-you-go (prepaid) balance.
now when i type *123# it calls, and then displays the menu in the form of a toast notification (it's a screen similar to the volume up/down song change screen. you know, grey background and all.
the menu says, "Welcome to blahdyblah... enter 1 for x, 2 for y, 3 for z, etc."
BUT. now there's no way to access the SIP (the keyboard). wham, you're stuck.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^
that's what I meant
Try tapping the notification bar it should give you more options.
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Try tapping the notification bar it should give you more options.
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it's similar to a notification bar.. but it's not a notification bar !!
you can do nothing about it..
it's depressing !!!
This is called USSD2, and Windows Phone does not support it.
It's called USSD2 Service
Did Microsoft intended to drop this service or it's just a slip..!
and does anybody know if they gonna support it in the future ?!
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yeh、maybe is a big bug and problem
but don't effect china .
beacuse chinese mno don't render this receivre
I think that it's a pretty unusual service. In fact, I've never encountered it so far, just USSD(1).
im also facing this problem
This is not a bug, it's an unsupported feature.
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This is not a bug, it's an unsupported feature.
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well, unsupporting a very useful and easy feature is a bug to me
First off
Samsung Focus 1.3
Mango RTM
I have a contact with a Mobile phone entry under "Mobile" and his Work Cell phone is listed under "Work"
When you go to Messaging and hit the plus sign to create a new Text then start typing the name. The Work number doesn't show in the type ahead.
So for me to create a multi party text I have to hit the plus sign across from the TO: and navigate to the contact and select that number. Very annoying.
That's not a bug, a work number by default is a landline phone for cell phones. You dont often send texts to land lines so they dont have the option there. If it's a mobile number set up a second mobile option.
If you create a second contact entry just for your friend's work cell phone, and then link the two contacts together, both numbers will be available to select from the list when you type the name. It isn't a perfect workaround, but at least it works.
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That's not a bug, a work number by default is a landline phone for cell phones. You dont often send texts to land lines so they dont have the option there. If it's a mobile number set up a second mobile option.
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In Windows Phone 7 that may be the case. The reason I feel that it is a bug is because I can select the contact manually and the option is there to text the "Work" number and when creating a blank text I can hit the plus sign and when I go to that contact I can select the "Work" number.
For the type ahead function the "Work" number isn't populating. That to me is a bug when its selectable in other parts of the OS.
Also what Cell Phones are you talking about? Try this on a iOS or Android device and the work number will come up as selectable when using the type ahead.
Right now this is just a minor annoyance(yet extremely irritating) to a platform that I love.
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In Windows Phone 7 that may be the case. The reason I feel that it is a bug is because I can select the contact manually and the option is there to text the "Work" number and when creating a blank text I can hit the plus sign and when I go to that contact I can select the "Work" number.
For the type ahead function the "Work" number isn't populating. That to me is a bug when its selectable in other parts of the OS.
Also what Cell Phones are you talking about? Try this on a iOS or Android device and the work number will come up as selectable when using the type ahead.
Right now this is just a minor annoyance(yet extremely irritating) to a platform that I love.
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I think the logic is that, the mobile number would be the primary method of communication because generally most people have one cell number they associate for friends and family.
The thing that gets me is that the threaded messages for the same contact with different numbers doesn't get grouped together despite the OS recognizing they belong to the same contact and that you can use the switch button to text to the different number