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How do you guys suppose they are going to stop it and force you to use their 30$ "service"?
I only ask cause I was experiencing 4g probs on my "rented" RAZR which I have rooted.
I only rooted it so I could use tethering(sql hack) while we were working on my office's network outage.
When I experienced service "cycling" i called. I could not keep a data connection. I had cell service and could receive calls and texts, but data would just cycle thru 1, 3, 4g, then none. When I called the rep did some digging and quickly kicked me to a "Tier2" rep.
So I tell him my problem. he responds "well, could be your SIM(which is free to replace) or to try a Factory defaults reset." He then proceeds to tell me about free apps for backing up. Something that does not require root. I assume something like titanium backup which is a main reason for many to root their phones and big VZW knows this. This is #1. He then proceeds to tell me about amazons app store, which "offers 1 free app a day". Big gripe from companies is that we rooters are "stealing" paid apps(I have stolen 1 payed app, then proceeded to buy it when the black market went under). That is #2. Without me telling him too much about myself, he goes "so, you seem pretty tech savy with the droid". This is #3.
so with 1, 2, and 3 in mind. Have you seen things like this on other 4g devices. I know they can see it(root). I know they have a way to jack your phone if you are "stealing" the entitlements check, but are they using it? The GSM version has builtin wifi tethering. Do you think that these "BUGS" they found which gave us 4.0.1 and 4.0.2 would have something to do with them trying to make sure we can't "steal" our bandwidth we pay for?
Food for thought. Thoughts? questions? concerns?
Hopefully there isn't any restrictions because I occasionally tether my transformer for easier viewing.
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It says right in the press release that they are blocking tethering and charging $20/month for the service. Just like every other VZW phone.
martonikaj said:
It says right in the press release that they are blocking tethering and charging $20/month for the service. Just like every other VZW phone.
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Well yeah they're "officially" blocking it, but with root and whatnot, we should be able to tether freely, hopefully. I tether from my OG all the time, even though it's "blocked"
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solid009 said:
Well yeah they're "officially" blocking it, but with root and whatnot, we should be able to tether freely, hopefully. I tether from my OG all the time, even though it's "blocked"
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Yes you should be able to with root. Just like any other vzw phone.
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I know they are blocking wifi tethering but you should still be able to do wired via PDANet(or similiar). but yes, root will be required. on the Rezound they went as far as to add a system process labelled "tetherguard". fun times
voxigenboy said:
I know they are blocking wifi tethering but you should still be able to do wired via PDANet(or similiar). but yes, root will be required. on the Rezound they went as far as to add a system process labelled "tetherguard". fun times
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I have PDAnet installed on my Droid RAZR, and it works just fine. No redirecting of websites to VZW page to sign up for a tether plan. When I had my DX rooted with GB, I used Wireless Tether and I was directed to VZW's page for tethering plans. RAZR is not rooted either.
I heard about a program called EasyTether that supposedly will allow you to tether without having to root your phone? Has anyone tried it/think it will work?
Tethering works fine after root - no app required (edit: Its now checking subscriptions, but PDANet still works).
WiFi tethering does not work after root on ANY app* - further development will be needed.
*Pretty sure that blocktether thing has returned.
I've been searching relentlessly for a way to get Wireless Tether for Root Users to work on my brand new VZW Galaxy Nexus.
No dice. The Dev has been notified.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/issues/detail?id=1257
If you install the latest BETA version and select the Samsung Galaxy S2 under device profiles, it ALMOST works, throughs in error in the log: "Activating WiFi interface.... FAILED"
Totally crushed about this. Not sure if it's happening due to a VZW side safeguard or if it's simply a progrmaming issue the dev can fix :\
keatre said:
Tethering works fine after root - no app required.
WiFi tethering does not work after root on ANY app* - further development will be needed.
*Pretty sure that blocktether thing has returned.
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Are you saying that you were able to get USB tethering working, after root with the native app? I am rooted, and when I tried to enable USB tethering, I got a pop up message that said "checking subscription plans". ????
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Are you saying that you were able to get USB tethering working, after root with the native app? I am rooted, and when I tried to enable USB tethering, I got a pop up message that said "checking subscription plans". ????
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Ya the stock tethering options still check subscription status.
PDANet does work, though, so that's what I'm using until a working wireless tether surfaces.
I'm planning on rooting specifically to use the built in hotspot.
Hopefully someone develops a workaround soon.
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I'm planning on rooting specifically to use the built in hotspot.
Hopefully someone develops a workaround soon.
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I am rooted and can not use the built in hotspot, nor USB tethering.
ROM developers are working on a solution now.
Download SQLite Editor from the market. On YouTube, there are many videos that show how to change the wifi tether permissions using sqlite. You have to be rooted.
I'm not rooted, so I use PDAnet with no problems on my laptop. There is a one time $20 charge to be able to use https websites.
I also use my Bluetooth to tether my iPad and surf the Web that way.
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evltwn72 said:
Download SQLite Editor from the market. On YouTube, there are many videos that show how to change the wifi tether permissions using sqlite. You have to be rooted.
I'm not rooted, so I use PDAnet with no problems on my laptop. There is a one time $20 charge to be able to use https websites.
I also use my Bluetooth to tether my iPad and surf the Web that way.
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I found this video for the Bionic -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKRwzq6Y2H8
I haven't rooted yet so I haven't experimented, but maybe someone can check it out and see if something similar will work with the GNex.
I don't get the "people root so they can steal apps" argument...you realize you don't have to root to download and install apps in Android, right? You get apps the same exact way rooted or non-rooted.
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I don't get the "people root so they can steal apps" argument...you realize you don't have to root to download and install apps in Android, right? You get apps the same exact way rooted or non-rooted.
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Where did you see someone say that on this thread?
OSully said:
I found this video for the Bionic -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKRwzq6Y2H8
I haven't rooted yet so I haven't experimented, but maybe someone can check it out and see if something similar will work with the GNex.
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I spent a while earlier today looking around in sqlite for something to edit to enable tethering but no dice. I did see some interesting stuff pertaining to throttling though, i.e. reset date and stuff like that
Has anyone tried to use Barnacle? Worked on the Chrage.
So I've got the 5GB of data on my phone, to which I barely use 1GB, sometimes 2 depending on what I'm doing. I keep most of my data use to using Spotify or when I check FB or whatnot, the rest of the time I use wifi for my data consumption. So in looking at switching my plan around a bit, I'm considering dropping down to the 2GB a month plan.
My question is... will me tethering while rooted slip it past the T-Mobile checks? Or will it trip and bump me to the tethering fee? The reason why I ask is because on Sprint, you could be rooted and it wouldn't get caught with the "tethering checks".
I found a couple threads that talk about it, but I don't have a definitive answer. Some say that Wifi sharing manager needs to be frozen, some say tethering manager... some say that if you are running a custom ROM it'll bake the ability to tether without any carrier repercussions in...
In my situation, there is no tethering manager on my phone, but there are 2 instances of "wifi sharing manager" on my phone and I am running Juggernaut 5.0.
I want to know too. Does Juggz have Wi-Fi tethering included??
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the dev removed tethering manager because that was discovered to be the reason for the upsell link when trying to tether. Many have found that removing tethering manager will allow our phone to use tethering completely free. Others have found removing wifi sharing/manager etc (there are 3) have helped them with tethering.
I remove all 4 because it is not necessary for anything.
BTW, if you barey use 1gb and sometimes hit 2... might as well save $10 each month.
What is the fourth one called?
I see:
-Tethering Manager
-Wifi Sharing
-Wifi Sharing Manager
Thanks
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So I know AT&T, being the disgusting American capitalist corporation that they are, decided to completely disable wireless tethering and make you pay for it with a monthly fee on your bill. This is completely unacceptable if you ask me.
This is a thread to see what Wi-Fi tethering apps you guys are using, with and without root. Hopefully we can get a list going so people can try out some different ones if certain ones don't work for them.
I'm using a completely stock phone, unrooted. Just downloaded FoxFi from their website, and installed the apk on my phone. It's usually available on Google Play but AT&T decided to block it. However, I can confirm that if you download the APK and install it that Wi-Fi tethering works perfectly. I connected my work laptop to my phone just now and used dropbox for a bit, and I also tried a few different websites.
Elixir 2
Foxfi here. It works great on my unrooted phone.
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Easytether
When I used to tether with an Iphone att noticed it right away and sent me automated messages... Can they also detect tethering with Android??
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if you download an app, the only thing AT&T would be able to see is your data usage. if your data usage all of sudden goes up, that's usually related to tethering.
i use FoxFi on my unrooted Galaxy S3.
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if you download an app, the only thing AT&T would be able to see is your data usage. if your data usage all of sudden goes up, that's usually related to tethering.
i use FoxFi on my unrooted Galaxy S3.
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definitely not true.
they can tell by the number of 'hops' that data traffic goes through to the end client. that is how they found me. i was using CM9 (built-in enabled hotspot) for 3 months on my old phone and they finally sent me the "Did you know tethering requires a plan?" text, and sent me a letter telling me I had to stop before X date or they'd change my data plan. when I called in playing dumb they listed off a number of apps that i might have used 'accidentally', which was the list of all the tethering apps i've heard of, and asked if i used them.
IMHO, the only safe way to tether via wifi on an unrooted phone would be to set up ADB via wifi, then use Easytether over that wifi ADB connection. Anything that resembles straightforward "phone as transparent access point" is too easy for carriers to detect. You have to masquerade your traffic, and the more opaque you can make it (say, by further tunneling it over a PPTP or L2TP VPN), the better.
A rooted phone has a few additional possibilities, but they involve completely replacing the tethering app that's bundled with the phone with one that goes out of its way to masquerade your traffic and disguise its wifi-routed origins.
You can also change over to a mobileshare plan. It's saving me a few bucks per month, and tethering is allowed with no additional fee.
"Tethering and/or mobile hotspot use is permitted with Mobile Share plans with capable Designated Devices; provided, however, that such use is limited to a maximum of five (5) simultaneous users per Device." "If you use a tethering and/or mobile hotspot Device with more than five (5) simultaneous users, you agree that AT&T may suspend or terminate service to the account."
So it looks like they're watching for multiple receivers in the traffic and if they see more than 6 (the device itself and 5 attached clients), then it flags.
Good Call
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Elixir 2
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Good call on Elixir 2. Works really fast on an non-rooted Galaxy S III
Foxfi worked perfectly for me up until this latest OTA update and now it won't work at all. Was using Power Toggles to activate it, but this is no longer working. I've been searching for a working replacement for the last few days without any luck so if anyone has found an app that works after the update I would greatly appreciate you sharing the name. Thanks!!
I use wifi tether on a rooted S3. It works pretty well. It has similar options to that of a router.
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definitely not true.
they can tell by the number of 'hops' that data traffic goes through to the end client. that is how they found me. i was using CM9 (built-in enabled hotspot) for 3 months on my old phone and they finally sent me the "Did you know tethering requires a plan?" text, and sent me a letter telling me I had to stop before X date or they'd change my data plan. when I called in playing dumb they listed off a number of apps that i might have used 'accidentally', which was the list of all the tethering apps i've heard of, and asked if i used them.
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So what app were you using when you got caught? Rooted?
I use the built in CM10 tether.
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So what app were you using when you got caught? Rooted?
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He was using the built in tethering feature of CM9, which is also part of stock Android.
I use wifi tether. It was the only thing that let me connect to my vpn and tether at the same time.
Haven't used it very much tbh. Maybe 2 hours total in the past couple of weeks. But so far so good
I don't think att would have an idea I was tethering since all the data is going through my vpn and is encrypted.
If they somehow managed to find out, I'm prepared to take them to court and will ask for proof in discovery which would make everything public as far as how they caught me.
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Stock from settings in AOKP.
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Hello all,
I have been using this tethering method for a few weeks now, but all of sudden, my phone gets stuck on "Please wait while verifying..." message. It never errors, and I can cancel the process. I have tried to restore the offical tethering files, in hope to get the "Please call blah blah for more information message, but the same result happens too. My phone did recently download a system update, but I haven't allowed it to install. If anyone can shed some light on this I would greatly appreciate it.
Anyone know which program, since the JB 4.1.1 updated (AT&T SGH-I747) will allow tethering preferably both wifi and usb. I tried this one and can't get it to work with the Samsung S3 profile selected or the Galaxy Nexus GSM profile selected.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...roid.wifi.tether&feature=search_result#?t=W10
Don't think you can unless u root your phone. At&t doesn't allow it.
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uplift777 said:
Don't think you can unless u root your phone. At&t doesn't allow it.
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I'm rooted. That app I referenced specifically says you need a rooted phone. I just don't see the SSID come up on my notebook. I want something that can also tether USB too, as then I don't have to worry about locking down security on the Wifi or draining the phone battery.
What are the options if you root it?
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uplift777 said:
Don't think you can unless u root your phone. At&t doesn't allow it.
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Been searching for an hour now. Tried two other apps. Neither worked. (Neither said root was necessary). Not willing to pay for Foxfi just to see it not work. Elixir 2 people have used but I think this is all pre Jelly Bean, at least for the GSM (AT&T) version of this phone.
Seems maybe we have to wait. All the apps, videos, posts out there seem to be for ICS. Guess this is the downfall when you update within 24 hours of the update being released. Need to let the developers catch up.
I can confirm pdanet works....havent tried foxfi but im sure it does as well considering how similar they work...
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Prior to update I was using FoxFi and it looks like it still works with Jelly Bean but I'm unable to get the Proxy Add-On to work since Jelly Bean.
Do you think I'll get caught tethering if I run FoxFi without the Add-On or does the Add-On only provide a false sense of security and is really not making a difference?
If it makes a difference, I'm on one of the old 2GB plans, not the new shared plans, but not unlimited either. Also, I'm stock, not rooted.
Finally, if you don't think this works, any suggestions that would work in this situation?
Thanks!
AlbConst said:
If it makes a difference, I'm on one of the old 2GB plans, not the new shared plans, but not unlimited either. Also, I'm stock, not rooted.
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I was on the old 5GB plan (the one that allowed tethering) and switched to the new shared plan (since I don't do that much data but do call a lot and wanted the unlimited calling (saves me over a hundred bucks a month)) and on these plans they do allow tethering. From what I understand, you will need to have a rooted phone if you want to tether under any other (older) plan..
fmllc said:
I can confirm pdanet works....havent tried foxfi but im sure it does as well considering how similar they work...
Galaxy S III I747
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I guess we should be specific that we are looking for apps that not only work on JB 4.1.1 but also don't require a tethering or shared data plan. So people say an apps works but fail to point out it's because their carrier is okaying the app since they have a qualifying plan. So pdanet works on JB 4.1.1 SGH-I747 without an AT&T tethering or shared data plan?
jazee said:
I guess we should be specific that we are looking for apps that not only work on JB 4.1.1 but also don't require a tethering or shared data plan. So people say an apps works but fail to point out it's because their carrier is okaying the app since they have a qualifying plan. So pdanet works on JB 4.1.1 SGH-I747 without an AT&T tethering or shared data plan?
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No...you should have said "I have no clue what im doing so can you please explain every single detail to me?". WTF does a tethering plan have to do with you being able to tether or not if youre rooted? You need to disable to tethering provision via TB!
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I just tried that wifi tether app and it works just fine....you obviously hacent disabled the tethering provision...
Galaxy S III I747
Would this meet your needs?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35072740#post35072740
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No...you should have said "I have no clue what im doing so can you please explain every single detail to me?". WTF does a tethering plan have to do with you being able to tether or not if youre rooted? You need to disable to tethering provision via TB!
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I just tried that wifi tether app and it works just fine....you obviously hacent disabled the tethering provision...
Galaxy S III I747
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Not everyone on here has been on an Android phone and screwing with it all their lives. For example, what the heck is "TB" ? Don't assume everyone has as much experience as you, just because they are a participant on XDA. And I should also add on that requirement, NO CUSTOM ROM.
So an appropriate answer might be the following:
If you are on JB 4.1.1 and want to tether without a tethering plan from your carrier, and you are on the STOCK ROM. You need to do this, this, this and this. Or just post a frickin link to someone who DID take the time to explain it for the rest of us. Does your solution require rooting, or doesn't it. STATE IT. So future people when they search the forums, they don't find a bunch of misleading, dead-end solutions and/or bickering.
I just came from iPhone and I was a jailbreaker. I'm loving the S3 and Jelly Bean. But on the iPhone, I'd jailbreak (equivalent of rooting on Android), install MyWiFi, and DONE and DONE. It seems this was how it was on ICS with this phone. Now on JB, not so simple. There's dozens of posts on several threads on several forums around the Internet of people no longer getting their tethering app to work since JB upgrade. These are both rooted and non-rooted, but they are all STOCK JB ROMs.
So please, tell us the trick to get a stock JB 4.1.1 ROM SGH-I747 AT&T to tether without the plan. We are all ears!
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Would this meet your needs?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35072740#post35072740
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Not sure as I've been to busy with my real life outside of XDA to spend hours reading and reading posts.
Bottom line, if there was an app you can just download and install for ICS before that worked, isn't it just a matter of time until someone publishes an app on Google Play (may require rooting, big deal) that does the same without a bunch of workarounds and crap.
Look one post above yours
Install that zip file via CWM(clockworkmodrecovery)....then download TITANIUM BACKUP (TB...you need the pro version...you can download lucky patcher for that) and go in and freeze the tethering provision app. This will allow you to tether without your carrier knowing...kindof...
P.S. ICS was the same protocol. You have to freeze the tethering provision...
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Thank you. I've got Titanium Backup installed now. So should I just use the built-in AT&T tethering app now or is it 'safer' to use something else?
Found it.
Still no love. CW Recovery and Team Epic Root Installed. TB Pro installed. Tethering Provisioning Uninstalled.
Tried to Tethering Apps on Google Play, neither work. "Free USB Tethering App" and "Wifi Tethering for Root" (tried Auto and Samsung S3 profiles). No Dice. Thought there was an native AT&T app but may have uninstalled it with TB when cleaning out bloatware.
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Okay, duh, I found the Tether toggle in Advanced Settings. I also found a couple tether apps that don't require root that actually came up on the network, but I get 'Limited' connectivity indication in Windows with no Internet access.
Now get this, whenever I go into Settings > Advanced > Tether if I toggle it on or off or toggle USB sharing on, I get the message "Settings application has stopped working" Some of the tethering apps also "stop working" when I try to run them even though I see the blue tether notification icon in the status bar and I can see the SSID on the network and connect, but it is as if the phones ability to bridge the wifi hotspot it is providing to the 4G Internet connection is broke.
****. Do I need to load Kies and to a stock firmware restore, or is that not even possible not that I have CW recovery installed. I really really didn't want to get into this Android tweaking Hell and now I'm there. Another wasted frickin weekend! Maybe I'll just go back to iPhone. Hopefully the iOS 6 jailbreak is out now (untethered).
Kind of ticked up about being lead down the road that indicated just freezing the tethering provisioning was the solution to all my woes. Maybe it worked for some (are you on JB 4.1.1 with AT&T SGH-I747???) but not me. After a couple more hours of searching and searching, including all sorts of YouTube videos showing using FoxFi, Wifi Tether for Root, etc, and then a lot of recent comments about it nor working. Anyways.....
Soultion is a newer hacked version of Wifi Tether for Rooted user that is not on the Play Store and the apk has to be downloaded directly. Current version is here:
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=9390195663897100406
YouTube Video on it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztsZH6Xj7A0
What a pain in the ass it took to finally find this. Guess that's the price you pay when you are brand new to Android and an OS update comes out two weeks after you got your phone and you install it the day it comes out. Sigh.
Ugh. Got too excited too quick. You can't toggle Wifi back on after shutting down tethering without restarting phone! Guess it's going to be a few more days until some good developers come out with a simple one-app solution without issues. It was WAY easier to get free tethering on the jailbroken iPhone that this. I'm shocked this is so hard right now on Android JB 4.1.1. But I have to remember the OS update just came out.
Picked up the Note yesterday, retiring and storing my s4 for emergency use with had Hyperdrive and Tether. Is there a way to bypass the subscription check it runs when you start the tether up? I have unlimited data and use it mostly for tethering since my university's WiFi is awful. I could have sworn there was something you had to set to true and it would bypass the check on other phones. What really drags is we don't have root yet so it makes this quite difficult. Any help is welcome!
Try Foxfi. Works without root. Do a search...topic has been discussed at length.
Thought about using that app, but the free version only gives you so much bandwidth or something like that. I like the idea of just using the stock app. Is this my only option until root and other Roms follow?
I was swapping my SIM back and forth between my rooted note 2 so that I could hotspot, but then I found out foxfi works on the unrooted note 4. I haven't bought the paid version yet, but probably will just for convenience.
Yes...been using paid version for a month, works flawlessly.
Thanks guys!