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Am I the only one thinking about trading this in for a new nexus or maybe a evo 3d?
because I know they're saying be patient on roms but I've been very patient and this some be :/
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So make a rom or is this just a rant post?
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Go get your EVO 3d already if you really want to test your patience, hopefully you get a 1.5 bootloader too.
Lol i had an evo 3d from day 1 and now its sitting in a box while i use this. Sgs2 hands down better. Get lostkernel with starburst Rom. Epic speed and battery life. Can't compare the 3d screen to the SUPER AMOLED.
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If you wanna wait for the galaxy nexus to release on sprint while dealing with an evo 3d be my guest.
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Get the evo3d. Oh and make your own rom.
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Lol, Evo3D. I had it on release day... Brought it back for Nexus S4g... Got another Evo3D, rooted, rommed...meh. Aside from the giant hardware deficiencies it had, especially compared to et4g, umm, just blah. Synergy rom was the only compelling rom. CM7 still has a long ways to go and the other millions of roms? Pretty much themes. Also, sense? Ugh.
The grass is always greener bro, keep that in mind... But... Be my guest.
Though I will definitely be going the Nexus Prime route. Still debating switching to Verizon or waiting for the Sprint version.
Otherwise just be patient... Things will be fine... Especially once we get a true AOSP base.
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Seems like the only benefits of the nexxus are the screen, nfc, and ics, otherwise 1.2 GHz processor (not sure what chip it is), 5mp camera, 1.3mp front, etc.
Seems like it's not as big of an upgrade as most expected. Once we get ics I'll be happy. I dont see myself utilizing the nfc, and the bigger screen isn't worth however much I'd have to pay. I hope Samsung is on top of the ICS update.
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Seems like the only benefits of the nexxus are the screen, nfc, and ics, otherwise 1.2 GHz processor (not sure what chip it is), 5mp camera, 1.3mp front, etc.
Seems like it's not as big of an upgrade as most expected. Once we get ics I'll be happy. I dont see myself utilizing the nfc, and the bigger screen isn't worth however much I'd have to pay. I hope Samsung is on top of the ICS update.
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The screen (except in fullscreen mode for games that support it and video) will likely be the same size (of active area) or perhaps closer to 4.3" in scale...remember the on-screen buttons. Though the resolution must be stunning.
I heard it was supposed to be the new OMAP platform, but, I don't recall getting any official comfirmation of that.
The FFC I thought was the same 2.0mp that we have. Though the 5mp seems like a downgrade I'll bet that the optics are better. Besides, making the pictures 'bigger' without adding any high-quality detail is pretty pointless.
I don't care much for NFC myself...and the 16:9 aspect ratio I find very irritating...but, remember on-screen buttons...sometimes....
I'm going in for the Official Google Experience, early updates and no horse-**** when it comes to source code (I'm looking at you Samsung with their older-than-release kernel and HTC with their half-of-the-source code). If it is the same as my ET4G plus a little resolution bump minus a couple meaningless megapixels I'm game.
...who knows, it might even support EVDO rev.b that is pointless to worry about. though, if it is an OMAP those are known for their awesome overclockability...
I'm definitely going to get one, but, I'm not going to be a release-day whore like I usually am. This ET4G is a stellar phone as it is and I'm still enjoying it thoroughly.
Go for it, one less person to make threads like this.
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If it comes to Sprint, I'm laying down the money for this phone. I love my Epic Touch but I haven't tried a Nexus phone yet and ICS looks amazing, along with the hardware that comes with the Galaxy Nexus.
I'll be getting rid of this phone to go back to my Nexus S and just hold onto it until the Galaxy Nexus comes out for Sprint. (if it does)
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Yeah man I like flashing roms too.. but it doesnt get much better than starburst rom with lost kernel. My set up runs circles around any phone I have ever owned including the Evo 3d. The screen is bigger on the prime and has better resolution but if you use density changer that really doesnt matter. Other than that it doesnt really have any groundbreaking updates as far as hardware is concerned and sooner or later the software updates will be available on our phones anyway. That being said... I think you should go get the 3d based on the fact that you even had to ask.
So far it seems to be that unless you are an HTC device or a GSM Samsung device or a Verizon Motorola device you are going to be stuck with the proverbial red-headed-stepchild-device so far as development is concerned...Unless you get a Nexus...though there is still a splinter between the carrier models I'll take it. CM7 and MiUi are all I really want as options, everything else is gravy after that...like netarchy kernels.
Perhaps I'm wrong and just paranoid about this becoming the same disaster I saw the Epic turn out to be...a device that wasn't intended to be Android until the last minute (from what I understand). After coming from a long line of HTC devices it's hard not to be paranoid about that. Which is too bad since HTC dropped the ball this round and Samsung is really picking up the slack, finally.
Getting a Nexus device hedges against this...
ICS is optimized for TI OMAP processors
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ICS is optimized for TI OMAP processors
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maybe on the galaxy nexus? That can be easily rectified. It is an open source platform after all
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maybe on the galaxy nexus? That can be easily rectified. It is an open source platform after all
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I read it somewhere on a blog a month back or so. multiple actually. Droid life or Android central or 9to5google.
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When's the nexus coming to sprint?
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When's the nexus coming to sprint?
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Rumored to be released on 13/13/13.
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Rumored to be released on 13/13/13.
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Can't wait for that. Lol.
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So with that said, anyone want to share their opinion on the device so far? No.flaming please I just want some feedback good and bad welcome.
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One thing to keep in mind is that when you unlock your bootloader everything is wiped so if you gonna install custom roms go ahead and do it before you have anything set up
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Its a nexus brotha what else can we say.... pure sexyness.
G Nexus
Pick up the extended battery if its still on sale for $25, well worth the money.
The best phone I have ever used....and I've had a boatload. My only complaint is that the ringer volume is low (at least on mine). My recommendation is that you unlock the boot loader first thing and root + install wifi tether. Very nice.
Overall, the best phone I've worked with. Doesn't benchmark like my old Epic Touch 4G but the Nexus has not slowed down once for me and the real life, real world performance is top notch.
Honestly, I like this better than the GS2. I wish the stock camera app was better but there is a new app called Camera ICS+ that adds many of the missing features back. Still waiting on wide screen pictures but very nice.
This is a great device and it's only getting better.
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Well thanks everybody for the comments, I honestly can't wait to get it and play with some roms and kernels.
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+1 for Camera ICS. I've been able to take some great quality shots.
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I honestly can't wait to get it and play with some roms and kernels.
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You're just in time for aokp m3! Make sure you do a nandroid backup. I see a lot of people who have bad boot loops.
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Strike my earlier complaint re the volume on the nexus, apparently the new 4.04 update addresses this issue.
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Overall, the best phone I've worked with. Doesn't benchmark like my old Epic Touch 4G but the Nexus has not slowed down once for me and the real life, real world performance is top notch.
Honestly, I like this better than the GS2. I wish the stock camera app was better but there is a new app called Camera ICS+ that adds many of the missing features back. Still waiting on wide screen pictures but very nice.
This is a great device and it's only getting better.
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Ohh **** hey man. Glad to see an old epic 4g user here loved your midnight roms. Will you be developing for this bad boy. To op. Best phone ever. Just got mine 2 days ago (came from nexus s 4g) and I love this phone so much.
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The best phone I have ever used....and I've had a boatload. My only complaint is that the ringer volume is low (at least on mine). My recommendation is that you unlock the boot loader first thing and root + install wifi tether. Very nice.
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Same here. If only the ext speaker was a bit louder! Trying the Galaxy Nexus makes it hard for anyone to go back to anything else, regardless of the cons.
1 complaint: speaker volume.
1 wish: Micro-HDMI instead of MHL.
1 WTF?!: No Micro-SD slot.
I've been an android user for 3 years now and never have I been this satisfied with a device. It is everything I have ever wanted from a phone.
Besides 'it's a NEXUS!' . That should sum it up.
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I've been an android user for 3 years now and never have I been this satisfied with a device. It is everything I have ever wanted from a phone.
Besides 'it's a NEXUS!' . That should sum it up.
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And waiting for the 4.0.4 update to achieve perfection.
It's the best phone on the market but still not that good.
Maybe this is just me venting but im so tired of people with an evo 3d talkin crap about the gs2. Me and my girlfriend both bought the 3d on launch day and it was ok at first but as soon as i saw the white epic we both dumped the evos. The galaxy screen is bigger and brighter. Way clearer. The battery last twice as long. The phone its self is faster with no lag at all. And to me the main difference is the camera. The camera is 100 times better then that ****ty evo camera. People defend the evo i think bc they have no upgrade but want the gs2 so they live in denial lol. The evo 3d cost as much as the original evo now (49$) and it hasnt even been a year yet. If you have a 3d do yourself a favor....sell it on craigslist then buy your self an epic off craigslist. Mite cost you 200 bucks when said in done. If not please come to grip with the fact the 3d is nowhere near as good as the gs2
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If your thread title is a question it belongs in the Q and A section.
Why didn't you just post this in the Evo 3d section then? Although Ranting in a public forum probably isn't going to get you far. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Epic-ly tapped from my Galaxy SII
I get mad when people spell does as DOSE ...lol
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Maybe this is just me venting but im so tired of people with an evo 3d talkin crap about the gs2. Me and my girlfriend both bought the 3d on launch day and it was ok at first but as soon as i saw the white epic we both dumped the evos. The galaxy screen is bigger and brighter. Way clearer. The battery last twice as long. The phone its self is faster with no lag at all. And to me the main difference is the camera. The camera is 100 times better then that ****ty evo camera. People defend the evo i think bc they have no upgrade but want the gs2 so they live in denial lol. The evo 3d cost as much as the original evo now (49$) and it hasnt even been a year yet. If you have a 3d do yourself a favor....sell it on craigslist then buy your self an epic off craigslist. Mite cost you 200 bucks when said in done. If not please come to grip with the fact the 3d is nowhere near as good as the gs2
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Shouldn't this go to the evo3d forum?
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Shouldn't this go to the evo3d forum?
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i think it's more about getting sympathy and a sense of commuinty from here.
I never had evo 3d.. but could care less about what they say. yea there will always be haters.
Htc has a big following.... I'm not going to say they are similar to apple fans but people that started with Htc and loved it they have stuck with them. Out of all software skins avaliable from device manufactures I must say sence has been the best. Also rooting with that phone and other software stuff has been easier with the HTC evo line of phones.
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Htc has a big following.... I'm not going to say they are similar to apple fans but people that started with Htc and loved it they have stuck with them. Out of all software skins avaliable from device manufactures I must say sence has been the best. Also rooting with that phone and other software stuff has been easier with the HTC evo line of phones.
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Where was this easy to root the first 3 months I had that pos 3d everyday was hoping someone had hacked the encrypted boot loader ...you must not remember that huh... I guess it was my imagination that we were odining rooted kernels like the next day on this phone...
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Where was this easy to root the first 3 months I had that pos 3d everyday was hoping someone had hacked the encrypted boot loader ...you must not remember that huh... I guess it was my imagination that we were odining rooted kernels like the next day on this phone...
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Tell me how many evos have been bricked since a bootloader unlock tool has been released
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Tell me how many evos have been bricked since a bootloader unlock tool has been released
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That is mostly user error for not reading and thinking that this phone is exactly like their old phone...and I used unrevoked on my 3d like an hour after it was released but from the animosity in your post you must not have read and bricked you're phone ...
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That is mostly user error for not reading and thinking that this phone is exactly like their old phone...and I used unrevoked on my 3d like an hour after it was released but from the animosity in your post you must not have read and bricked you're phone ...
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It not animosity I'm just making a point.... On my evo I never had to flash 10 kernels, 3 different recoveries and use Odin just to flash 1rom. I am in no way shape or form hating on this phone because this has been the best phone I've ever owned but I'm saying that the evo was waaaaaay more easy to mess with
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I have seen this one too many times and I am gonna go ahead and close this thread right here for a few reasons:
1. It simply opens the floor for flaming in large magnitudes;
2. It is not in the right section (should actually be in OT rather than here);
3. There is no point to this other than you venting.
Sorry but thread closed.
My friend is looking into this phone is it a good phone does it work great will it ever get ics?
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My friend is looking into this phone is it a good phone does it work great will it ever get ics?
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Yes, it is a very good phone for its price. It works great with sense 2.1 roms and cm7. it has ics update, look at the development forum.. it is buggy, but modpunk will fix it soon.
All in all, I am satisfied with it.
But only when you root/OC it.Then it works without any lag on sense 2.1/3.5 ROMs, as well as on CM7.
ICS is available(CM9), it's still in alpha stage, but it's very good.There aren't so many bugs considering it's in alpha stage.
modpunk is great developer, and he will sort it all out.
If you're asking about official ICS..no.We will not get it.
HTC does not care for their customers, that's the reason.
Wfs is definately good choice for its price, get anything bit sony cr*p,they really dont care about customers
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I thinks also its a great phone for his price.
It's a mid range phone, but when the phone is rooted its nearly a high end phone.
I'm very glad with the WFS
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My friend is looking into this phone is it a good phone does it work great will it ever get ics?
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unless smallness is a major priority, you might instead look around for a used incredible S. It would be about the same price as a contractless wildfire S ($200-250 around here), and packs a bigger screen, better processor, lots more internal storage, has a full software s-off available, and will be getting ICS sometime this year.
He has a dumb phone he just wants android he doesn't really care about the fast stuff I do but he has 3 choices of phones
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Good phone, gsm or cdma?
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I think there is GSM (Marvel) and CDMA(marvelc) variant, I am using GSM.
Simply superb, at first the battery backup is low. But now it is well for me. Happy to use this phone
I have a cdma.
Pros
-sleek and stylish
-radio shack has white
-good CPU speed
-great camera
-nice clear screen
Cons
-Bad battery life
-phone is VERY light, feels cheap
-no backdoor cover for extended battery for cdma
-hard to find cases for cdma
-some phones can be defective (I had 2)
-touch screen response isnt the best
Overall I give it a 6/10, I've had my phone since black Friday, you get what you pay for really, for a new comer into Android development this is a good starter. I honestly would recommend the LG optimus v over this phone. This is just my opinion, goodluck
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Does this really belong here? prolly not
but i know a lot of inc2 users dont want to upgrade and loose unlimited data, and buying phones off contract can be crazy expensive to keep it
inc4g can typically be had for under $250 on ebay/cl, and now we have s-off coming (which being locked was a major point for many to avoid the phone)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1944157
basically thought id throw this out there, for those looking for a pretty good (i love it, others refuse to use anything smaller than 4.3 inch screen these days) 4g phone that can be had off contract used for just about upgrade pricing, can now not worry about having an unrootable/locked phone :good:
it will most likely be getting official jellybean at some point, which the rezound probably wont (nothing against rezound, but that could be a deal breaker for some)
Awesome, the not unlockable at all part was definitely what had me staying away from this, I knew it'd get done eventually though, thanks for the heads up.
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Thanks for this nits. Are you on the dinc4g now? It's something to consider at that price. Is battery comparable to what we have now on dinc2? I may have to Google to see how big an improvement it is. I don't recall any of the tech specs for it.
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Thanks for this nits. Are you on the dinc4g now? It's something to consider at that price. Is battery comparable to what we have now on dinc2? I may have to Google to see how big an improvement it is. I don't recall any of the tech specs for it.
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yeah ive had the inc4g since launch...i was one of the fortunate ones (maybe 80-100?) that got dev unlocked through htcdev when the phone was unoffiicially supported for its first 10 days post launch...after that htc killed support to it...
theory was either a) verizon told them to (verizon claims our stock release software and unlock would cause issues...according to some support folk) or b) verizon just didnt want it unlockable
in any event, it ll work out in the end, cuz we probably wouldnt have soff if we had dev unlock as andy might not have had to reach out to the i/o guys if we still had unlock...and soff is so much better
but our sense4.1/android 4.0.4 update this week contained the exploit the guys needed to get temproot and soff the device supposedly :good:
as for the device?
battery life is incredible for a 4g device...on the stock battery and kernel i get 4 hours screen on time regularly (more than my inc2), in lte coverage the whole time...radios are very good
comparing it to the inc2, i guess form factor differences would be iphone 4s vs iphone5...the inc4g is narrower, but qhd res....i happen to like the screen a lot (even though some blogs killed it)....its very responsive, and smooth (even more so now on sense4.1 vs 4.0)
Keep us posted on the s-off. Thanks nit.
Thanks for the info Justin.
Well I will certainly be getting this phone for sure.
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I'm certainly going to think hard on it. I have to go off contract to keep unlimited anyways. I may begin monitoring the forum to see how much dev support swings over there. Will cyanogenmod ever support non moto phones? Lol.
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I'm certainly going to think hard on it. I have to go off contract to keep unlimited anyways. I may begin monitoring the forum to see how much dev support swings over there. Will cyanogenmod ever support non moto phones? Lol.
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Since when did CM only support moto phones?? Only reason we aren't supported is because we don't have kernel source, we used to be for GB.
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I understand that. Just frustrated that Verizon is kicking us to the curb it seems. Lol. I hope source does release and we still get supported!!! I just am nervous to buy a non nexus given Verizon's dropping of the ball on devices at random.
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If anyone cares for another opinion, I can pretty much confirm Justin's take on the Dinc4. I had the Dinc2 for quite a while and absolutely loved it (now my dad loves it.) I was predisposed to the Dinc4 because the form factor of the Dinc2 was perfect. Once I noticed Justin had the phone and knew it would have great ROMs, that sealed the deal. My phone arrived THE DAY HTC removed it from their unlock tool :'(
So after 3 months with the Dinc4, I'm a little baffled by the amount of negative reviews on this phone. The screen is fantastic, the camera is outstanding, and the phone (stock) is smooth and responsive. The latest update made it even better. Battery life is great. If you like your Dinc2 as much as I did and aren't looking for a phablet size device, I think this is a great upgrade.
Cheers.
+1 I just got mine and I love it. Except for the lack of root, but like nits said that will be available in the near future. The form of the phone reminds me of the og inc and I loved that lil guy
if root ever becomes available for it, i might look around to trade my dinc2 + some cash maybe, for one. dinc2 is my first Android based phone and I really love it. I even liked it on stock, but root is just amazing lol
We're told root is coming soon
Once the s-off tool is released, i'm sure root will accompany root.
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Once the s-off tool is released, i'm sure root will accompany root.
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yeah, just fastboot a recovery and flash a superuser package and youre set (post s-off)
I think just maybe HTC threw the dinc4g a bone. They have supported the android underground in the past. They still would if very greedy wireless hadn't stepped in.
It makes sense to me, that they released an update knowing full well that we could exploit it.
Anyone else think the same?
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I'll second that
If our phones were 4g I could care less about upgrading to the dinc4g because the dinc2 is an amazing phone :X
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JehC said:
If our phones were 4g I could care less about upgrading to the dinc4g because the dinc2 is an amazing phone :X
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well thats the rub, its not