I have an LTE Galaxy Nexus and would like to keep the stock ROM with having root to be able to wireless tether, etc. I would also like to be able to update to the official 4.0.3 when it is pushed OTA. So this brings me to a Clockworkmod question:
If I root phone, install temporary Clockworkmod to do the whole nandroid backup and everything. Since i will have a temp Clockworkmod, when the 4.0.3 update is pushed, will I be able to simply reboot my phone so that my rooted stock OS would first recover a stock recovery then apply update with successful installation? Could it be that easy? Or even to just reboot once i create a backup so my stock recovery detects the OTA?
I understand that the update would unroot my phone, however what i am getting at is whether i should wait for the 4.0.3 update to be released so then i could root and install Clockworkmod and all that, or does it really matter if what i described above will work?
Thanks of the help. Please provide as much detail as possible. As you can see I am newb.
i have a question to add to this. I have the perm clockwork recovery and i want to undo that so i can get the update when i comes out but i dont know how to do that without going completly back to factory conditions.
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The last two times I have tried to install the latest update (2.2 I believe) to my EVO, it has downloaded just fine but then seems to crash when it tries to do the actual install.
What I get is a screen showing the little green android next to an oblique triangle with an exclamation point in it. Everything stops at that point.
I have previously rooted the phone (no nand though) so I could install the android wireless tether, etc. Other than that though, I have not done too much with the phone. It's been running fine, so I have no idea what may be causing the new OTA update to crash.
(I've heard there have been some problems with the update and I really do want to be able to re-root the phone after the fact, if that could be a problem..so as far as that goes I'm in no hurry.)
Still, does anyone have any idea what might cause the latest update to crash? Should I perhaps manually copy it to my SD card and try running it from there?
Thanks,
JTT
You probably have a custom recovery so you can't OTA
OP,
You trying to maintain root? Then don't flash the OTA. If you are tryign to get back to stock, then run the 2.2 RUU file. That will wipe your phone and you will get stock - and NO root.
the question is how did you root the phone?....
in the end to keep root its, apply the 1.47 ota update, install unrevoked3, unrevoked forever, install stock recovery, update to 2.2 froyo, install custom recovery, install superuser app, then BAM you are rooted on 2.2
all addressed in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=752166
IceCreaMan said:
the question is how did you root the phone?....
in the end to keep root its, apply the 1.47 ota update, install unrevoked3, unrevoked forever, install stock recovery, update to 2.2 froyo, install custom recovery, install superuser app, then BAM you are rooted on 2.2
all addressed in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=752166
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Don't take the 2.2 OTA if you want to maintain root.
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never do OTA lol. i learned the hard way.. im stuck on 2.2 without root. you will lose your root if you update ota. just say no man.. just say no
android 2.2 help
so is there anyway to root 2.2 ota update i wanna root my phone!!!
Maybe a noobish question, but im sorry
As the title says : if i root the phone, will i be able to recieve updates OTA ?
edit : and same question : if i get cwr (for nandroid backups) will i be able to recieve OTA updates?
Thanks guys
So long as you're running the stock rom, you should still get OTA updates. They may or may not break root, but you'll have to risk that. If you're running a custom ROM, then you probably will not get OTA updates, but you can of course update your ROM as per the developer builds.
You will remove root if you install an OTA, and I have heard of people actually bricking their phones installing an OTA with root.
installing CWM will break OTA even if you're on the stock ROM because it flashes in stock recovery, not CWM.
...and from the mixed responses you can tell that it wasn't really a noob question. (all answers were partially correct, btw).
The update will still get pushed to your phone, based on the build version of your phone. The custom recovery will fail to install, at which point you can simply install it yourself by performing a manual flash via recovery.
Depending on the extent of the update, you may or may not lose root, and possibly even your custom recovery. Your best option is to manually flash an update, then the su.zip, and I've also put together flashable a script to prevent your custom recovery from reverting to stock at your next boot (I'll post it when I get chance). Flash all the files while in CWM, and you're golden!
I have reached maximum thanks-per-day, otherwise i would give a thanks to all of you..
So, i still have few questions :
1) If i root, get custom CWM, but stock rom, will i still be able to SEE ota update, and to DL it over the OTA (not flash it)?
2) Can i brick my device with flashing ota , while rooted and with custom CWM ?
Thanks in advance
-yes it will still show up.
-it won't brick your device, but the update will fail, and you'll have to pull battery to gay back into the os.
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I have a noob question:
I unlocked my bootloader and rooted my gsm nexus. However I would like to be able to receive and install any updates OTA- basically stay as stock as possible with root. My plan was to leave the stock recovery in place. If I need to do a backup or reflash su.zip (after an update to regain root) I was planning on running rom manager and using it to flash CWM. I realize that this CWM would not survive a reboot as the startup script will reflash the stock recovery.
Will this work and does it make sense?
thanks
quick bump- basically I want to know what will prevent an OTA update from installing
Edit I realized there was a flaw in my logic. After an OTA update I will lose root and then be unable to flash the recovery via rom manager. I guess will have to resort to fastboot after OTA
Just got my S3. Should I take the initial OTA or will that make it harder for me to root?
I've done my initial homework by searching but I'm still a little unclear. I'm so accustomed to HTC with their OTAs changing Hboot and preventing s-off, etc. I found the guide on how to root but does the bootloader need to be unlocked?
This is my first Samsung device so please be gentle to this noob.
clankfu said:
Just got my S3. Should I take the initial OTA or will that make it harder for me to root?
I've done my initial homework by searching but I'm still a little unclear. I'm so accustomed to HTC with their OTAs changing Hboot and preventing s-off, etc. I found the guide on how to root but does the bootloader need to be unlocked?
This is my first Samsung device so please be gentle to this noob.
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Your safe to take it, initial root process will be the same regardless. You'll most likely root flashing cwm recovery or a insecure kernel in odin so the system wont matter.only the vzw model has a locked bootloader. doesnt apply to us
If you are at n00b status i personally reccomend mskips toolkit found here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746680 ---guys a genius, has everything you need.
you can't OTA update a phone that's rooted or has CWM on it, so definitely update before you root.
Exactly, it will download but will fail on the install because CWM is installed. You must have the Samsung stock recovery installed in order to update. Depending on what ROM you are running, you can re-install stock recovery, install OTA update, re-install CWM, then root again. That is what I did, but I am running Rooted Stock.
BrandonEnr7 said:
Exactly, it will download but will fail on the install because CWM is installed. You must have the Samsung stock recovery installed in order to update. Depending on what ROM you are running, you can re-install stock recovery, install OTA update, re-install CWM, then root again. That is what I did, but I am running Rooted Stock.
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Really the ota's don't matter ne way as the only important parts are the modems which can be dl'd here and applied in cwm anyway
Thanks fellas. My only concern was with the ability to root and staying unlocked after taking an OTA. I'm traumatized by the EVO 3D's OTA that updated the Hboot and was just a pain in the ass.
What's the current OTA address anyway?
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Exactly, it will download but will fail on the install because CWM is installed. You must have the Samsung stock recovery installed in order to update. Depending on what ROM you are running, you can re-install stock recovery, install OTA update, re-install CWM, then root again. That is what I did, but I am running Rooted Stock.
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I have rooted my Nexus 7 wifi 2012 tablet with TWRP
I don't want to keep un-rooting, applying ota updates then re-rooting my tablet. Is there an easy way. Maybe modified images i can use on a rooted tablet which i can install via the install option in twrp recovery loader.
I also notice that Nexus root tool kit has a ota sideload update option in the advanced menue.
So my question is where are the modifies ota update files if they exist as I don't want to keep un-rooting, rerooting each time to apply official ota updates. I have searched the net and can't find modifies ota updates?
My OTA failed due to root and modifications so I extracted system.img and boot.img from the 5.1 tarball and flashed them using Nexus Root Toolkit. Works well.
I'm going through the same issue - I want to keep running stock, but every time an OTA update comes in, it bugs me for an update until I go through the whole process of finding the files elsewhere, using the Toolkit to flash them etc etc.
Is there a better way to do this automatically? Can I find the downloaded OTA package on the Nexus and just flash it from there?
Since Lollipop, you can't take an OTA in any way (official or sideload) if you've modified your system. Rooting, custom recovery or kernel. Unrooting does not help since the system already has been modified.
Easiest way to upgrade and still keep your data is to flash the factory image but leave out userdata.img. This can be easily done through NRT (No wipe mode) if command prompt is scary. Yes you'll have to reroot... But hey, this is a Nexus, it's easy.
I assume that means waiting for someone to post the update?
If you want to wait for someone to make a prerooted image, then yes. Otherwise just download the official factory image (Google it) and go for it.
Google doesn't always release OTAs and factory images at the same time, so some waiting will probably always be involved...
Drives me crazy. TWRP used to be able to intercept a OTA flash, flash the needed images, detect you lost root and ask to restore root.
Somewhere that disappeared.
I just flashed a very old stock and took every OTA to 5.0.2, rooted, setup... now getting bombarded with 5.1.1 update notification. Ugh
Didgeridoohan said:
Since Lollipop, you can't take an OTA in any way (official or sideload) if you've modified your system. Rooting, custom recovery or kernel. Unrooting does not help since the system already has been modified.
Easiest way to upgrade and still keep your data is to flash the factory image but leave out userdata.img. This can be easily done through NRT (No wipe mode) if command prompt is scary. Yes you'll have to reroot... But hey, this is a Nexus, it's easy.
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I need to flash the latest lollipop image to my rooted nexus with TWRP. I know where to find the images but don't remember how to flash it. What exactly are the steps and how do I leave out userdata.img ?
And what are the steps to reroot lollipop?
Thanks
i keep getting the offer to download the 5.1 update but when i do it dloads it then tries to reboot into recovery to flash it but it obviously boots into TWRP recovery which is no good.
So the question is when it dloads the update where does it dload to?
and could i flash it from TWRP if i find it?