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I'm planning a major upgrade of my phone later this month and want to have as much information spelled out in advance as possible.
I think I will first upgrade my CWM to 5. Am I correct in understanding that CWM5 is out of beta and stable? I vaguely remember reading that its keys do not work perfectly with Froyo kernels, so I haven't moved until I do everything at once.
I'm leaning toward SleeperROM. It seems updated often and actively. On the other hand, reports that there may be wifi issues give me pause.
Whatever Rom I go to, I'll go back to RFS, because while I'm on Ext4 now, avoiding force closes is more important to me than operating speed.
My question is: Can I upgrade entirely with CWM, or will I need Odin? Has a way been developed yet to get my modem to EI22 that does not need Odin, or is it still recommended that I first Odin to a full stock EI22 Gingerbread, re-root and install CWM and my new rom from there?
If you had to do the upgrade process now, what steps would you take?
There is no modem.bin for the EI22 modem so no Odin. You have to flash the modem delta from CWM with EC05 modem on your phone. Then just flash a GB ROM and enjoy. Backup with nandroid and Titanium Backup. Not all data is compatible so some things may have to be set up again. I had to redo my email accounts in stock email client.
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Now I'm not NEARLY as experienced as Kenny, but what I did seemed to have worked out alright. I didn't use Odin (have a Mac) and used CWM (purple at the time) for it all.
I came from Froyo and did a CWM update to GB. That put me on EI22 with EC05 modem.
Updated to CWM 5. I did this as I was researching and getting ready to goto a custom ROM.
I then CWM'd to Legendary ROM (so choose your ROM here, I guess).
Then through a lot of trial and error with all the different modems, used the CWM flash able ECO5 to EI22 modem updater. This put me on Legendary Rom with EI22 modem. EI22 actually works fantastically for me.
I haven't had any problems since (minus bugs and whatnots from the Samurai Kernel and Legendary updates).
It sounds like you are pretty savvy. I don't think you will have any problems getting what you need done without Odin.
garyf said:
I'm planning a major upgrade of my phone later this month and want to have as much information spelled out in advance as possible.
I think I will first upgrade my CWM to 5. Am I correct in understanding that CWM5 is out of beta and stable? I vaguely remember reading that its keys do not work perfectly with Froyo kernels, so I haven't moved until I do everything at once.
I'm leaning toward SleeperROM. It seems updated often and actively. On the other hand, reports that there may be wifi issues give me pause.
Whatever Rom I go to, I'll go back to RFS, because while I'm on Ext4 now, avoiding force closes is more important to me than operating speed.
My question is: Can I upgrade entirely with CWM, or will I need Odin? Has a way been developed yet to get my modem to EI22 that does not need Odin, or is it still recommended that I first Odin to a full stock EI22 Gingerbread, re-root and install CWM and my new rom from there?
If you had to do the upgrade process now, what steps would you take?
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Check out QBKings How to video to Install EI22 Modem.. Then search his videos of numerous custom Roms for the one you like..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnk6lfBh5rI
It's also all personal preference. I Odined back to dg27 and got the ota package, Odined ACS Recovery, then flashed nubernel and then stock deodex EI22. Took an hour or so to reinstall apps and restore what data I wanted to keep. I like a super clean install, if it even matters much.
So i am new to Samsung (coming from a launch evo) and watched the QBKING77 videos and rooted and flashed Calkulins rom pretty easily. So far pretty simple but I have a question.
I am on stock EL29, What confuses me is the list of all the different modem .zip/.tar that are listed in the Caulkins thread. I couldn't really find a thread or video explaining what the difference is between the many different modems, or what the heck a modem is even. or if i should even worry about those at all. Should i just stick to the stock kernel that came with the rom? If i do decide to change the modem do i just flash/odin and im all set? or do i have to re flash the rom?
From what i learned so far, the kernel and phone radios are one in the same right?
Modem = radio. Also known as baseband under your settings - about phone. Modems are flashed independent of a ROM or kernel.
You can mix and match anytime you'd like. If you have solid service on EL29, no need to switch.
You can use any modem on any gingerbread or ics rom. If using a GB rom, you can't use an ics kernel and vice versa.
Hope that helps
.zip is for flashing via Clockwork Recovery. .tar/.bin is for flashing via ODIN. Most importantly it's vital to read and reread everything and also ask any questions before flashing, like you're doing now. I make Nandroid backups anytime I'm about to make ANY changes. Good luck.
Also keep in mind that anything with F in the version (ex FC07) is an unofficial leak. The latest official is EL29, which you are already on.
As a good practice when I switch modems, is to update PRL and profile then reboot.
Components come in the following packages. These packages will come either in .zip or .tar/.bin form.
1. Modem (Always separate, can use any Modem with any rom)
2. ROM (With Kernel or Without Kernel)
3. Kernel (With CWM or Without CWM, use ICS kernel for ICS rom. Use GB kernel for GB rom)
CWM = Flash .zip and make Nandroid backup
Odin = Download Mode flashing tool that can flash .tar/.bin. It can be used
Don't go around flashing your radio all the time. It can be dangerous and very brick easy.
Thank you guys! This is the info I needed. I'm sticking with EL29 for now since I'm having zero issues on the radio side. And I wasn't going to flash ANYTHING via Odin until I learned more about how it all worked.
Do I need to manually update the kernel when installing Calkulin's 2.9.2 ROM?
I installed Calkulins 2.9.2 ROM quite a while back and have been happy with it. I believe I am on the stock EL29 modem (my baseband version says S710.10 S.EL29).
I am confused about the kernel. When installing Calkulin's ROM, did I also install the "Rogue" kernel? Or did the kernel not change from the stock kernel that was on the phone from before.
From what I have read I believe that if I am still on the stock kernel then I would not be gaining the battery life benefits of the ROM because the scripts installed by Calkulin's ROM would not be running.
Currently my "kernel version" says "2.6.35.7-SPH-D710.EL29-CL852097". I believe that this is the stock kernel from Sprint. If I need to install the "Rogue" kernel, (1) where do I get it from and (2) how do I know I am using the right one for Calkulin's version 2.9.2 (and not V 3.0)?
Thanks for any assistance you can provide,
Kevin
You can find kernels in the wiki in the stickies in dev section. If you turn your phone off completely( no light on the buttons at them bottom). Then you push and hold volume up and power at the same time. Wait for it to go into recovery. Does it say e3 with blue letters or is there a green backround?
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When I go into recovery on the top it says "Rogue ET Recover 1.1.2 (CWM v5.0.2.7)" and the background image says "Team Rogue". I wasn't able to find something that told me what kernel I was on.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you're on what's called a repacked stock kernel...its the stock el29 kernel with the cwm recovery added to it.
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Johnny - thats the thing I dont know; I am unsure how to tell what kernel I am on. I have always been under the impression that when I installed Calkulin's 2.9.2 ROM, that it also installed the "Rogue" kernel. But I am now under the impression that I may be on a "stock" kernel.
From what I understand about the ROM, the battery saver tweaks do not work for "stock" kernel. I never quite understood what a "repacked" kernel is.
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Johnny - thats the thing I dont know; I am unsure how to tell what kernel I am on. I have always been under the impression that when I installed Calkulin's 2.9.2 ROM, that it also installed the "Rogue" kernel. But I am now under the impression that I may be on a "stock" kernel.
From what I understand about the ROM, the battery saver tweaks do not work for "stock" kernel. I never quite understood what a "repacked" kernel is.
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K. So there's a couple of things going on here. Let's get you some definitions.
Kernel: Essentially the backbone of the operating system. There are different stock kernels for different versions of Android (one for GB and another for ICS). A stock kernel comes with stock recovery. It is not a good idea to flash anything using this recovery (in some cases it is actually blocked so you can't).
CWM: Clock Work Mod. The original version from Chris. It is considered a "repacked" kernel. It stands apart from a regular kernel because it has a custom recovery built in. There are a few other things packed into it but the main difference is the custom recovery. The EL26 CWM is commonly referred to as stock CWM (not a stock kernel though).
Rogue: Team Rogue is the most common one you'll see for our phones. They took CWM and customized it further. They also developed custom recoveries based if the leaked ICS kernels. There was something causing bricks in the kernels they created, unfortunately we can't quite figure out why until we have source.
If you are seeing Team Rogue when opening recovery you currently have a "customized custom recovery kernel".
If you are flashing anything GB you're ok with what you have. If you're flashing ICS you'll need to use the EL26 CWM.
How this clears things up a bit.
I have a question:
I'm presently runningthe Nocturnal Venum AOKP rom (which is awesome
I might add) but this question actually has impications on all the
ICS 4.03 & 4.04 roms. After Flashing the rom and whatever else you
flash through the EL26 CWM(5.027) based kernel and rebooting you
loose that CWM and must get CWM from the Play Store.
My question is this; Say I want to flash a new modem must I Odin
the EL26 kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514665
using the method per kbizzle and then flash new modem and reflash
ICS kernel? This is important to know as the only unrecoverable brick I
have manufactured is with the flashing that goes between gingerbread
based recovery to ICS rom and attenpting to go back. I admit I'm a 50
something year old noob with building pc's as my experience before
getting into the android game so I wont pretend I'm something I'm
not! I have flased better than 100 roms and am learning more with
each possible bricking roll of the dice flashing I do and I have
bricked my share. Is their a CWM in the works for flashing modems
and so on in the works? Any help will be greatly appreciated!
to flash a modem, simply flash the .bin file in Odin. no need to use recovery and it doesn't add to the Odin count.
DO NOT USE CWM FROM THE PLAY STORE!!!!
Odin el26 cwm, clear dalvik cache, flash whatever mod you're wanting to flash, flash AOSP ICS kernel, reboot.
worked like a charm
I was having the same problem flashing modems on Nocturnal Venum. Didnt know we had to flash the kernel along with it. Needless to say working great now
It would be in your best interest to flash using ODIN. You won't have to go back to a GB kernel to flash a modem with ODIN.
You can flash with CWM, but I wouldn't in the AOKP/AOSP situation you're in.
Flashing new ICS modem
OK cnstarz,
That's what I needed to know and appreciate your prompt response! You raise another question which is was using or wanting to use CWM for nandroid backup but as it wouldn't flash modem, the nandroid backup is also out of the question. I plan on using the rom I'm on now as a daily driver but like to try others out and know that I have to basically Odin back to gingerbread to either try another gingerbread rom or to do another ICS rom. So, my guess is I have no nandroid option or is there?
Again thanks for your help.
i just upgraded to ff18///
i then upgraded to cwm
i then upgraded to calkulins 4gt 2 fe22
i also just upgraded the modem for fe22 it said this was the newest
quest is i assume the calkulins rom is called fe22
i assume i look for only that stuff fe22
how do i know when to upgrade the rom ///kernals //modem
do i only look for calkulins 4gt 2 fe22
http://www.buildarom.com/E4GT/Modems/E4GT_Modem_FE22.zip ////is that stuff right to use
by the way u guys are great and thank u
is it better to stick with the calkukins stuff because i heard its safe and good
The latest modem is FF18, use whatever works best for you. Anything in that thread is outdated and Calkulin moved onto a different phone.
Know that the FE22 repacked recovery is unsafe to factory reset on in fact staying out of the recovery on it entirely is a good idea. I know there were some earlier than FF18 repacks that were made generally safe but the only kernel source we have had is FF18 and the only completely safe kernels will be based on that source.
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The latest modem is FF18, use whatever works best for you. Anything in that thread is outdated and Calkulin moved onto a different phone.
Know that the FE22 repacked recovery is unsafe to factory reset on in fact staying out of the recovery on it entirely is a good idea. I know there were some earlier than FF18 repacks that were made generally safe but the only kernel source we have had is FF18 and the only completely safe kernels will be based on that source.
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thanks didint know that //// this stuff is so confusing lol so how do i go back to ff18
can i use this to go back to ff18 for cwm e4gtauto-lite-sfxhanks
how do i go backk please also i was told that the agat cwm was safe
In case your not entirely familiar. Our phones eMMC has a bug in its firmware that is triggered by the Android 4.0 Kernel during certain erase operations. Factory reset is a surefire way to permenantly brick the phone. FF18 was supposed to have been made safe by Samsung but from what we can tell on the surface it is not.
AGAT and others by now as well as whoever is doing the TWRP recovery kernels have made kernels with recoveries that are safe to wipe and factory reset as well as generally safe flashing roms. Look for ones built from FF18 source which will have been made safe inside and out. AOSP roms like CM9 and AOKP have safe recoveries and a source built kernel is in testing for as well.
Just be careful with factory resetting, formatting, flashing roms on stock recovery or anything prior to FF18 that is not marked as being safe to do whatever.
You should be able to use sfhub's auto root to install Agat's FF18 on Calkulin's rom, you could technically stay there but thats a pretty old custom rom at this point. There are others out there I have not kept up. Agat has one there are some more popular ones these days like Blu Kuban and stuff I havent kept up to be honest.
larrynypd said:
thanks didint know that //// this stuff is so confusing lol so how do i go back to ff18
can i use this to go back to ff18 for cwm e4gtauto-lite-sfxhanks
how do i go backk please also i was told that the agat cwm was safe
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Just flash agats last kernel....its built from source and is safe to flash things from. Also an unsafe recovery just means don't wipe data in it....you can still flash a modem or app.zip in it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35
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RainMotorsports said:
In case your not entirely familiar. Our phones eMMC has a bug in its firmware that is triggered by the Android 4.0 Kernel during certain erase operations. Factory reset is a surefire way to permenantly brick the phone. FF18 was supposed to have been made safe by Samsung but from what we can tell on the surface it is not.
AGAT and others by now as well as whoever is doing the TWRP recovery kernels have made kernels with recoveries that are safe to wipe and factory reset as well as generally safe flashing roms. Look for ones built from FF18 source which will have been made safe inside and out. AOSP roms like CM9 and AOKP have safe recoveries and a source built kernel is in testing for as well.
Just be careful with factory resetting, formatting, flashing roms on stock recovery or anything prior to FF18 that is not marked as being safe to do whatever.
You should be able to use sfhub's auto root to install Agat's FF18 on Calkulin's rom, you could technically stay there but thats a pretty old custom rom at this point. There are others out there I have not kept up. Agat has one there are some more popular ones these days like Blu Kuban and stuff I havent kept up to be honest.
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do u reccommend not to root then
this is what i used to get for cwm can i use it to go back to ff18 e4gtauto-lite-sfx
or what about this This One-Click ODIN contains the STOCK FF18 Modem/Kernel/ROM for the E4GT
larrynypd said:
do u reccommend not to root then
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Root is irrelevant. If your worried about the bug root has nothing to do with it. The Galaxy Note which has the bug was given ICS over the air and had a rash of bricks from people on stock unrooted firmware just doing simple factory resets. We also have the bug and while reports internally say they put in a work around, its not showing in the source we have.
You are in fact safer being with us, is that not sad? Our developers have worked around the problem from every known point of cause. From where you are at install AGATs FF18 using the auto root. You can flash a different rom if you wish after that.
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Root is irrelevant. If your worried about the bug root has nothing to do with it. The Galaxy Note which has the bug was given ICS over the air and had a rash of bricks from people on stock unrooted firmware just doing simple factory resets. We also have the bug and while reports internally say they put in a work around, its not showing in the source we have.
You are in fact safer being with us, is that not sad? Our developers have worked around the problem from every known point of cause. From where you are at install AGATs FF18 using the auto root. You can flash a different rom if you wish after that.
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thanks do you know off hand how to deroot ff18 if i have to can i just reput stock ff18 rom back on phone would that deroot it or mess it up
also who and what do i use to update //upgrade the rom/kernals /modems on here do i look for anything that said for ff18 and i would be ok thansk larry
Well new company gave me 20% Sprint discount and have become sick of my Tmobiles poor coverage. However I fear wimax might be sucky too here in Seattle. Anyway, long time member here and have been involved in the HTC Sensation and One forums. Both with very very stable roms and kernals.
I was excited to pick up a couple Sprint Galaxy epics and the guy at Sprint had his all rooted and claimed it was smoking fast.
However I came to this forum and see all kinds of complaints of loss of stability just from simple Root of the Epic? Also have not read any stable ICS roms and I have read all of the threads. Plus read this phone is very easy to brick under clockwork. With sensation we use Aroma and it rocks!
So before I move on, I am not looking to break rules on asking ROM questions. I simply would like some input on what ICS rom is stable and supported still as I see many devs have moved on the the sg3 here.
What kernal and radio or what you call modem is stable and how do you find what is for your phone match?
Lastly, what is safest way to ROOT and flash ROMS for this phone?
I did read the stickies but am still confused.
I may be just happy at first to simply ROOT and install the fix for Hot Spot Wi fi and go from there.
Thanks so much.
Not even sure if phones will arrive with stock ICS tomorrow or GB...
Ice
The SAFEST way to flash stock ROMs in case of emergency is using Odin.I've found both stock ROMs (GB & ICS) very stable, however I reboot my phone everyother day (windows habit).
This thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495 was my starting point.
rovar said:
The SAFEST way to flash stock ROMs in case of emergency is using Odin.I've found both stock ROMs (GB & ICS) very stable, however I reboot my phone everyother day (windows habit).
This thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495 was my starting point.
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First off thank you for your reply. Interesting, I have read ODIn maybe responsible for bricking many of these phones is that incorrect? Lots of what I found seeing the people are very unstable with the custom roms so far for ICS for this phone of course stock ICS will be here soon.is there the ability to just root the phone and leave the stock ics ROM and just run the sprint hot spot mod.
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iceshark said:
First off thank you for your reply. Interesting, I have read ODIn maybe responsible for bricking many of these phones is that incorrect? Lots of what I found seeing the people are very unstable with the custom roms so far for ICS for this phone of course stock ICS will be here soon.is there the ability to just root the phone and leave the stock ics ROM and just run the sprint hot spot mod.
Sent from my Sensation 4G using xda premium
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Odin never causes any bricks as long as the process is not interrupted. Most of the instability is caused by user error. From my experience, all fresh (by fresh I mean wipe data/cache and format system) custom ROM installs have been rock solid stable. Also, most network issues are fixed by updating profile/prl. Official ICS is already out, it is build FF18. Stock ICS will not normally have the hotspot mod. You will have to use a hack to install it yourself. If you want a stock ICS experience, use this odin package (reset user data) to odin your phone to pre-rooted FF18:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
And here is your hotspot hack:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1760712
Nonetheless, I see no reason why you wouldn't just save yourself the time and flash a custom ICS ROM.
Imho, there isn't any ics custom rom as of yet that is 100% stable, glitch-free, and reliable. I would wait it out until more polished versions come out. If there is a pretty good one to try, i'd say the blu kuban.
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Odin never causes any bricks as long as the process is not interrupted. Most of the instability is caused by user error. From my experience, all fresh (by fresh I mean wipe data/cache and format system) custom ROM installs have been rock solid stable. Also, most network issues are fixed by updating profile/prl. Official ICS is already out, it is build FF18. Stock ICS will not normally have the hotspot mod. You will have to use a hack to install it yourself. If you want a stock ICS experience, use this odin package (reset user data) to odin your phone to pre-rooted FF18:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
And here is your hotspot hack:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1760712
Nonetheless, I see no reason why you wouldn't just save yourself the time and flash a custom ICS ROM.
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Thanks, I think we are on the same page with this!
So I just loaded the FF18 Full Restore and Samsung drivers as indicated in this thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1670110
I also tested after unzipping to a folder and the ODEN program comes up waiting for me to hook up phone I dont have yet till tomorrow.
I also watched this video and it seems very easy to do if this is correct process,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IL21F8Gfbs
Still some clarifying questions,
1. If my new phone comes with ICS already pushed to it. Do I simply still install FF18 to get root for the ICS rom?
2. If phone does not come with ICS will this install ICS and Root?
3. Do I need to use this or Caulkins to wipe data first before I do this process on phone out of the box new?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1670110
Also I am little nervous reading this post from SFHUB<, Is he saying not to do the above process thru the built in Odin recovery in the phone if it comes with stock ICS in it? What does this mean???
The Epic 4g Touch has a bug in it's emmc controller that can cause the /data partition to become inaccessible/unrecoverable sometimes thanks to the wipe process when flashing from ICS recoveries... DO NOT FLASH FROM ICS RECOVERIES!!!!
7/11/12 edit: In the FF18 source Garwynn has confirmed the presence of the offending code that triggers the emmc bug (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...1&postcount=32) meaning that it will eventually be safe to flash from ICS as long as the offending code is removed by the dev of the kernel/rom...
- Please see this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1525495) thread by xST4T1K which details how NOT to brick your device... It is slightly out of date but still very relevant... if you want a more technical understanding of what this emmc bug is and why this is happening you can see Sfhub's thread in general related to it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1644364 ). The OP contains all of the information that our users have been able to figure out about this bug... Be sure to thank these people, as their hard work has made it exponentially safer for all of us to flash ICS roms on our phones...
-Every ICS rom will have a flashing guide in it's dev thread, its HIGHLY suggested you read and reread the guide for the rom you want to flash and follow it EXACTLY, taking the extra time upfront to fully understand what you're about to do will save you alot of trouble going forward.
-Put simply though you will always want to ODIN or Mobile ODIN (mobile Odin is an app made by the dev chainfire, available in the play store, that allows you to preform Odin flashes from your phone without using a PC) the el26 Gingerbread kernel/recovery and flash any ICS roms from that. NEVER FLASH FROM AN ICS RECOVERY, THAT IS HOW BRICKS ARE MADE!!!! Also do NOT use Rom Manager or Touch recovery!!!!
- Currently there are some ICS recoveries that are thought to be safe to flash from thanks to the work done on the emmc bug. If one of these is included in your rom it will be noted by the dev in the rom thread, however the safest way is still just to Odin back to el26 in order to avoid any chance of bricking!
Next, once I do this FF!8 and have root and ICS. If I want to dabble in custom roms. I am guessing they are installed by CWM from file downloaded to root of SD card like normal. I do not find CWM touch for this phone anywhere. I am sure I am missing it. It seems from reading the exploit in ICS kernal is causing the bricks. So I am guessing to use SF hubs or Claukins data wipe before loading custom roms. Are we beating to the same drum here?
Will correct radio or modem be installed automtic with FF18 or custom roms? I see many threads just on modems.
Thanks and thanks for the hot spot mod.
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Imho, there isn't any ics custom rom as of yet that is 100% stable, glitch-free, and reliable. I would wait it out until more polished versions come out. If there is a pretty good one to try, i'd say the blu kuban.
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Thats what it seems from hours reading each ROM thread. Reminds me of the Sensation when GB and or ICS first leaked. Will most likely just root stock and go from there.
CWM is in the kernel. Current kernels such as chris41g's or AGAT's kernels have patched up recoveries that avoid the emmc bug, so they are completely safe. You should use calkulins format all before flashing a rom in CWM.
For odin, it wouldn't hurt to odin sfhubs wipe data/cache, but it's not necessary. As long as you use the reset user data odin package for FF18, it will take you to stock rooted FF18. Regardless of what rom your phone comes with, run that odin package. You don't need to worry about the modem either because it will install the latest one. Be sure to update your profile/prl in settings>about>system updates after.
If you want to try a custom rom, use odin to flash a kernel with cwm (agat's or chris41g's). Once you have a recovery, flash calkulins format all, and then the ROM of your choice. Modems are not installed through CWM rom zips. You'll have to flash a modem zip in recovery or odin a modem tar.
revamper said:
CWM is in the kernel. Current kernels such as chris41g's or AGAT's kernels have patched up recoveries that avoid the emmc bug, so they are completely safe. You should use calkulins format all before flashing a rom in CWM.
For odin, it wouldn't hurt to odin sfhubs wipe data/cache, but it's not necessary. As long as you use the reset user data odin package for FF18, it will take you to stock rooted FF18. Regardless of what rom your phone comes with, run that odin package. You don't need to worry about the modem either because it will install the latest one. Be sure to update your profile/prl in settings>about>system updates after.
If you want to try a custom rom, use odin to flash a kernel with cwm (agat's or chris41g's). Once you have a recovery, flash calkulins format all, and then the ROM of your choice. Modems are not installed through CWM rom zips. You'll have to flash a modem zip in recovery or odin a modem tar.
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I was studying Sfhugs FF18 thread and it says I can do the one click root and then install option D and that puts in the FF18, with agats CWM. So is this more simple then flashing FF18 and then doing a flash for either chris or agat kernal with cwm?
Should I use Calkulins format before flashing FF18 from stock?
So when you guys flash new custom roms you have to flash current modem each time? or only if you want to have a more current one? Coming from HTC you only have to flash radio when its required to match a new base leaked. So little confused there too.
Thanks your help has been great!
iceshark said:
I was studying Sfhugs FF18 thread and it says I can do the one click root and then install option D and that puts in the FF18, with agats CWM. So is this more simple then flashing FF18 and then doing a flash for either chris or agat kernal with cwm?
Should I use Calkulins format before flashing FF18 from stock?
So when you guys flash new custom roms you have to flash current modem each time? or only if you want to have a more current one? Coming from HTC you only have to flash radio when its required to match a new base leaked. So little confused there too.
Thanks your help has been great!
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I know I personally use Mijjahz's "GOODNESS" ROM and it runs smooth. Many mods and add ons with more added daily. I flashed agat's 2.2 kernel because I don't like the 2.3 that version 16.6.1 comes with.
I also flashed FF18 over my EL26 modem. Modems don't change between flashing I believe. Those you update yourself. A lot of folks stay on EL29 or find something that works perfectly in their area.
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optimummind said:
Imho, there isn't any ics custom rom as of yet that is 100% stable, glitch-free, and reliable. I would wait it out until more polished versions come out. If there is a pretty good one to try, i'd say the blu kuban.
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not sure what you expect from a mobile os but I couldn't disagree more.... my experance on mijjahs goodness has been better and more stable than stock in every way, hell even cm9 and aokp are extremely reliable as well if you can live without dialer codes and prl/profile updates.... no software is ever going to be 100%.... I say flash away, you won't be dissapointed
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cp320703 said:
not sure what you expect from a mobile os but I couldn't disagree more.... my experance on mijjahs goodness has been better and more stable than stock in every way, hell even cm9 and aokp are extremely reliable as well if you can live without dialer codes and prl/profile updates.... no software is ever going to be 100%.... I say flash away, you won't be dissapointed
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QFT.
ICS ROMs are very stable at this point.
iceshark said:
Thanks, I think we are on the same page with this!
So I just loaded the FF18 Full Restore and Samsung drivers as indicated in this thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1670110
I also tested after unzipping to a folder and the ODEN program comes up waiting for me to hook up phone I dont have yet till tomorrow.
I also watched this video and it seems very easy to do if this is correct process,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IL21F8Gfbs
Still some clarifying questions,
1. If my new phone comes with ICS already pushed to it. Do I simply still install FF18 to get root for the ICS rom?
2. If phone does not come with ICS will this install ICS and Root?
3. Do I need to use this or Caulkins to wipe data first before I do this process on phone out of the box new?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1670110
Also I am little nervous reading this post from SFHUB<, Is he saying not to do the above process thru the built in Odin recovery in the phone if it comes with stock ICS in it? What does this mean???
The Epic 4g Touch has a bug in it's emmc controller that can cause the /data partition to become inaccessible/unrecoverable sometimes thanks to the wipe process when flashing from ICS recoveries... DO NOT FLASH FROM ICS RECOVERIES!!!!
7/11/12 edit: In the FF18 source Garwynn has confirmed the presence of the offending code that triggers the emmc bug (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...1&postcount=32) meaning that it will eventually be safe to flash from ICS as long as the offending code is removed by the dev of the kernel/rom...
- Please see this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1525495) thread by xST4T1K which details how NOT to brick your device... It is slightly out of date but still very relevant... if you want a more technical understanding of what this emmc bug is and why this is happening you can see Sfhub's thread in general related to it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1644364 ). The OP contains all of the information that our users have been able to figure out about this bug... Be sure to thank these people, as their hard work has made it exponentially safer for all of us to flash ICS roms on our phones...
-Every ICS rom will have a flashing guide in it's dev thread, its HIGHLY suggested you read and reread the guide for the rom you want to flash and follow it EXACTLY, taking the extra time upfront to fully understand what you're about to do will save you alot of trouble going forward.
-Put simply though you will always want to ODIN or Mobile ODIN (mobile Odin is an app made by the dev chainfire, available in the play store, that allows you to preform Odin flashes from your phone without using a PC) the el26 Gingerbread kernel/recovery and flash any ICS roms from that. NEVER FLASH FROM AN ICS RECOVERY, THAT IS HOW BRICKS ARE MADE!!!! Also do NOT use Rom Manager or Touch recovery!!!!
- Currently there are some ICS recoveries that are thought to be safe to flash from thanks to the work done on the emmc bug. If one of these is included in your rom it will be noted by the dev in the rom thread, however the safest way is still just to Odin back to el26 in order to avoid any chance of bricking!
Next, once I do this FF!8 and have root and ICS. If I want to dabble in custom roms. I am guessing they are installed by CWM from file downloaded to root of SD card like normal. I do not find CWM touch for this phone anywhere. I am sure I am missing it. It seems from reading the exploit in ICS kernal is causing the bricks. So I am guessing to use SF hubs or Claukins data wipe before loading custom roms. Are we beating to the same drum here?
Will correct radio or modem be installed automtic with FF18 or custom roms? I see many threads just on modems.
Thanks and thanks for the hot spot mod.
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you're quoting some of my new user guide here, and i haven't updated it since the OTA came out so it somewhat overstates the danger of bricking (not a bad thing really, made you read, didn't it!?) which was much easir to do before we got kernel source, since then agat63 and chris41g have been killin it in kernel development since they got ICS source... their ICS kernels are safe to flash from and can be found in the dev section, if you're on the stock FF18 rooted with stock kernel i would personally ODIN (mobile or desktop) back to EL26, and from there flash whatever custom ICS rom you like, as far as I'm aware all of the roms come with a safe kernel these days but do be sure to double check and flash one if it does not... at that point going forward should you wish to flash something else you can just do it via cwm as per usual without having to odin back to gingerbread....do note however that you can't use touchwiz kernels with AOSP roms, there asr safe AOSP kernels as well however...
edit: oops, just noticed revamper addressed most of this on the last page, to answer another one of your questions though you can try as many modems as you like and decide which one works best for you, its varies phone to phone and area to area... the modem is not at all required to match the build number of the rom, (example: may people still use the el29 modem with ICS) you can use ANY modem with ANY rom
Ive flashed this phone hundreds of times. Put your rom and any other zips you have on external card. Then to do a full clean wipe go to privacy. then factory data reset then check usb storage. You can skip this step, but this is how to get it factory fresh. Download the el26 cwm kenal. Its posted everywhere. Next open Odin go to pda and select EL26 cwm kernal. Uncheck auto reboot. Have battery cover off! Flash kernal pop battery out when it starts to boot. or says pass. then use the vol up and power combo hold them down until boot screen pops up then let off. Next flash calkulins wipe all or wipe no data. . Never brick never fail. Then flash your rom and tweaks and be happy. Ive done this driving down the road its that easy. Laptop sitting in passenger seat with odin up lol. Plus i drive a 5sp full size truck. Flashing is easy. Follow directions. There is nothing wrong with this phone just read directions if your a noob. I,ll be making multi scenario flashing youtube movies soon. Like mobile tech videos does.
Flashing is easy. Follow directions. There is nothing wrong with this phone just read directions if your a noob.
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That's all there is to say.