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Hey everyone,
I'm really new to android modding, and don't know much about all this. I'm good at modding but never been on android before. I went through the stickies and full desire guide etc threads, but its really getting confusing for me.
I've come to know some things: (correct if wrong)
1) You have some custom ROMs which you can flash after rooting the phone.
2) Most ROMs have pretty much everything working, but some things don't work on some ROMs (like camera for some)
3) Rooting voids warranty.
Seeing the vast amount of ROMs in the development section, I'm confused which one to look for. Can anyone suggest me which would be the best (stable and everything working) ROM for me? I basically need APP2SD or APP2SD+ (NOT the froyo one because its useless, I'm talking about the custom one) and minor tweaks like changing the homescreen etc.
Which would be the best suited ROM for above description? Basically, what criteria decide which ROM to put on the phone?
@Moderators, sorry if its the same old story. I'm really confused and so HAD to make a thread.
Hi and welcome. A couple of points I can help you with:
There are loads of roms to choose from, I am using this rom atm:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768703
Everything on this particular rom works fine and is very fast and stable. I generally find if roms have several revisions then are are generally very good. i.e. are having continuous support and developement.
As for rooting voiding warranty? Well this is no longer an issue as rooting can easily be reversed )
Hope this helps
LEWY
thehrushi said:
Hey everyone,
I'm really new to android modding, and don't know much about all this. I'm good at modding but never been on android before. I went through the stickies and full desire guide etc threads, but its really getting confusing for me.
I've come to know some things: (correct if wrong)
1) You have some custom ROMs which you can flash after rooting the phone.
2) Most ROMs have pretty much everything working, but some things don't work on some ROMs (like camera for some)
3) Rooting voids warranty.
Seeing the vast amount of ROMs in the development section, I'm confused which one to look for. Can anyone suggest me which would be the best (stable and everything working) ROM for me? I basically need APP2SD or APP2SD+ (NOT the froyo one because its useless, I'm talking about the custom one) and minor tweaks like changing the homescreen etc.
Which would be the best suited ROM for above description? Basically, what criteria decide which ROM to put on the phone?
@Moderators, sorry if its the same old story. I'm really confused and so HAD to make a thread.
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You do indeed need to Root the device before flashing, the only ROM that don't have 'things working' is the Desire HD ROM. I am not sure if that has been fixed or not yet though. All the other AOSP and Sense based Desire ROMs have everything working just fine. Rooting will void your warranty but it's super easy to reverse so there is nothing to worry about.
The most popular ROMs by far seem to be the AOSP (Android Open Source Project) ROMs (Non-Sense ROMs), all of them will have APP2SD built into them, the Sense ROMs also have APP2SD built into them.
LeeDrOiD is by far the most popular Sense based ROM, RCMixHD is the Desire HD based ROM, which I think still doesn't have the camera working.
And by far the most popular Desire ROM overall is the ASOP Cyanogen based DeFrost.
To get the most out of APP2SD you will need to download ROM Manager and create an EXT3 partition on your SD card so the ROM will place all of the Froyo compatable apps into the partion and not your internal memory.
Being brand new to the desire, I've flashed every Rom available in the last 2 weeks.
Leedroid is a very good sense Rom. I prefer having a Rom with sense right now because this is my first HTC.
Right now I'm running the Aurax sense Rom, solely because it has its own setCPU built in.
The hd roms didn't impress me that much, not yet at least, with a little more time they will be awesome though.
The MIUI roms are also amazingly pretty, if you don't mind the iPhone feel. My only problem with it though, and I've been told this hardly happens, my battery life was pathetic.
At the end of the day though, apart from the hardware, it is android and all the available apps that make our phone so great.
All the custom roms do add a lot of speed to the phone though, you have to do a quadrant after you flash so that you can see how awesome the Rom makes your phone run. They also add additional functionality compared to the stock Rom.
Honestly, I can't see why anyone would keep any Android device stock when there are such amazing roms around. At the end of the day its all down to your own preferences and what functions you like. You'll love any Rom you flash.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Thanks for such amazing replies. Meanwhile, I've also been through many ROMs and their descriptions. The terminologies are kinda new for me, but I can understand many things now....
The only thing I care about right now is App2SD because I found FroYo's move to SD doesn't help much. Also second thing is that I'm not having MY desire yet, its my friend's device m gonna try out everything on! So I'd be taking some extra care!
One big relief is that rooting is reversible. That'd be cool.
What are the odds of bricking your phone while flashing or applying mods?
thehrushi said:
Thanks for such amazing replies. Meanwhile, I've also been through many ROMs and their descriptions. The terminologies are kinda new for me, but I can understand many things now....
The only thing I care about right now is App2SD because I found FroYo's move to SD doesn't help much. Also second thing is that I'm not having MY desire yet, its my friend's device m gonna try out everything on! So I'd be taking some extra care!
One big relief is that rooting is reversible. That'd be cool.
What are the odds of bricking your phone while flashing or applying mods?
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It is honestly impossible to brick a desire. I bricked my MOTO backflip, there was no coming back from that. With the desire I flashed something that didn't work, but pressing volume down and power gets you right into the hbooot menu, from there just mount as usb and copy over a new Rom to flash.
The one thing you need to remember, when flashing new roms the first boot takes a while, never pull the battery thinking there's nothing happening, that will destroy your phone and there's no coming back from that.
Before every Rom you flash make sure to do a factory reset in the recovery menu, that ensures that the new Rom will work to its full capability and minimizes the chances of experiencing problems.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
thehrushi said:
What are the odds of bricking your phone while flashing or applying mods?
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You can brick your device flashing Radios, but you can always send it back to HTC, pay them an extortionate amount and they will revive it for you. But overall, the chances are slim to none in my experience.
Just make sure, after rooting, you make a Nandroid backup of the OS. Then you can do whatever you like to the phone and it will be reversable.
I keep a Nandroid of my DeFrost ROM, and one of my PaysROM, and I have one of my MoDaCo R8, you can switch between them just using Recovery, as the mood takes you, absolutely everything will be exactly as it was everytime you load the backup back onto the phone, I just wipe the cache, Dalvik Cache, factory reset the ROM then reinstall whichever ROM I want to use (DeFrost, PaysROM etc etc) from the SD card and then backup from the Nandroid.
Depending on the age of your desire, you shouldn't need to flash a radio though. I've never needed to flash a radio, but that's because my desire came with the latest radio, thankfully it still has the amoled screen.
If you do need to replace the radio and somehow brick it, if its still under warranty HTC will replace it for you because there is no way that they can prove you bricked the device.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Kalavere said:
Just make sure, after rooting, you make a Nandroid backup of the OS. Then you can do whatever you like to the phone and it will be reversable.
I keep a Nandroid of my DeFrost ROM, and one of my PaysROM, and I have one of my MoDaCo R8, you can switch between them just using Recovery, as the mood takes you, absolutely everything will be exactly as it was everytime you load the backup back onto the phone, I just wipe the cache, Dalvik Cache, factory reset the ROM then reinstall whichever ROM I want to use (DeFrost, PaysROM etc etc) from the SD card and then backup from the Nandroid.
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Wow that means you install a ROM, make settings you want, put in your data (phonebook etc) and then take a full backup. Switching between them is as easy as restoring a backup!
Is that right?
Initially, I'd be trying out ROMs, and would stick to the one which suits me best. I just can't wait before my desire arrives this monthend!!
thehrushi said:
Wow that means you install a ROM, make settings you want, put in your data (phonebook etc) and then take a full backup. Switching between them is as easy as restoring a backup!
Is that right?
Initially, I'd be trying out ROMs, and would stick to the one which suits me best. I just can't wait before my desire arrives this monthend!!
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It saves everything, app data, messages, settings, the lot. Although when switching ROMs I still factory reset, wipe the caches and reinstall the ROM I want to use before loading the backup of that specific ROM. I am not sure things will go so smoothly if you just reload the backups without factory resetting and reinstalling the ROM first, but it won't hurt to try.
Kalavere said:
It saves everything, app data, messages, settings, the lot. Although when switching ROMs I still factory reset, wipe the caches and reinstall the ROM I want to use before loading the backup of that specific ROM. I am not sure things will go so smoothly if you just reload the backups without factory resetting and reinstalling the ROM first, but it won't hurt to try.
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Exactly!
Alright, so I rooted my Dinc yesterday, and there are several ROM's that I want to try out but am a little confused about a couple of things and the more I'm searching and reading, the more I'm getting confused. I'm probably over-analyzing it but I wanted to make sure before I venture on just to be safe. So if ya'll don't mind (as I'm sure these are total n00b questions that have been asked before):
1) My initial Nandroid backup - Does that backup the entire phone. So if I want to restore the phone to the original stock ROM and everything I can just restore the whole Nandroid backup and be good to go? My fear is flashing a new ROM, wanting to get the phone back to what it was stock, and not having a backup of it.
2) ROM's/Kernels. I thought a ROM included a Kernel to go with it, but I keep reading about people trying different kernels with certain ROM's. I'm really confused here so any info would help.
3) It is obvious that a lot of people have put in a LOT of hard work here. I just wanted to personally thank you all for the hard work and support, if it wasn't for what you guys have done and documented here, n00b's like me would be stuck with bloated handcuffed phones. So thanks a ton.
badogg said:
1) My initial Nandroid backup - Does that backup the entire phone. So if I want to restore the phone to the original stock ROM and everything I can just restore the whole Nandroid backup and be good to go? My fear is flashing a new ROM, wanting to get the phone back to what it was stock, and not having a backup of it.
2) ROM's/Kernels. I thought a ROM included a Kernel to go with it, but I keep reading about people trying different kernels with certain ROM's. I'm really confused here so any info would help.
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1). Yes, it does. If you were to restore it, it would be restored to the point you made the backup. That's why it is recommended before you flash anything, do a nandroid. It saves the headache of reflashing a ROM, or going back to a really old backup and losing anything you've done since then.
2). Yes, the developer will include the kernel with the ROM. People flash a custom kernel to overclock/underclock the CPU, better battery performance, among many other features. One thing to keep in mind: A Sense based ROM (HTC Sense) takes a Sense kernel, and an AOSP ROM (like CyanogenMod) requires an AOSP kernel. Don't flash an AOSP kernel on a Sense ROM (and vice versa), won't work and you'll need to restore your nandroid.
In the Development section, the developers are really good with explaining what it is they've produced, so you'll know what you're downloading, and if you are unsure, ask!
RMarkwald said:
1). Yes, it does. If you were to restore it, it would be restored to the point you made the backup. That's why it is recommended before you flash anything, do a nandroid. It saves the headache of reflashing a ROM, or going back to a really old backup and losing anything you've done since then.
2). Yes, the developer will include the kernel with the ROM. People flash a custom kernel to overclock/underclock the CPU, better battery performance, among many other features. One thing to keep in mind: A Sense based ROM (HTC Sense) takes a Sense kernel, and an AOSP ROM (like CyanogenMod) requires an AOSP kernel. Don't flash an AOSP kernel on a Sense ROM (and vice versa), won't work and you'll need to restore your nandroid.
In the Development section, the developers are really good with explaining what it is they've produced, so you'll know what you're downloading, and if you are unsure, ask!
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Awesome. Thanks for the reply, and I do apologize for asking things that were probably asked a hundred times over, I try not to be *that* guy, but I was just getting all confused over it and needed a direct answer.
badogg said:
1) My initial Nandroid backup - Does that backup the entire phone. So if I want to restore the phone to the original stock ROM and everything I can just restore the whole Nandroid backup and be good to go? My fear is flashing a new ROM, wanting to get the phone back to what it was stock, and not having a backup of it.
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It backs up EVERYTHING. Literally.
It returns your phone to the EXACT state that it was in when you did the Nanadroid backup. Every single phone call, setting, data, EVERYTHING.
badogg said:
2) ROM's/Kernels. I thought a ROM included a Kernel to go with it, but I keep reading about people trying different kernels with certain ROM's. I'm really confused here so any info would help.
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Roms come with their own kernels. just like roms, some kernels offer different tweaks to improve battery life and/or improve performance.
badogg said:
3) It is obvious that a lot of people have put in a LOT of hard work here. I just wanted to personally thank you all for the hard work and support, if it wasn't for what you guys have done and documented here, n00b's like me would be stuck with bloated handcuffed phones. So thanks a ton.
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i would also like to thank all the devs out there. while verizon is ending the life of the incredible, this community keeps it alive.
badogg said:
Awesome. Thanks for the reply, and I do apologize for asking things that were probably asked a hundred times over, I try not to be *that* guy, but I was just getting all confused over it and needed a direct answer.
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No problem!
O.M.G...
I loaded the CM7 nightly ROM and holy cow it has re-invigorated my Dinc. It is WAY snappier than it was before. Seems better on battery life so far.
LOVE the UI.
I am thinking of trying out other ROM's, but this CM7 ROM is seriously the shizz...
Thanks for this post, it clears up a few things for me as well.
Sent from my ADR6300 using......blah blah you get the idea.
As the title states today i got my sgs s II. impressed with it so far but i want to start flashing new roms. Came from the sgs 4g i am familiar with cwm, odin and superoneclick but looking at roms here i see that there are ICS roms that have special requirements as to flashing (read the megamix install instructions) and i don't want to brick or otherwise mess this phone up. if anyone can guide in the right direction where to start and the differences in the roms on this forum id really appreciate it.
The ICS ROM's are not completely stable yet, they are based off the Skyrocket ICS leak. But it's the same as your old phone, Odin CWM then flash a rom. No need to root if you're going to flash a custom rom, they are already rooted. The only requirement for ICS is flashing the super wipe zip from the dev section before flashing the rom. Just make sure you follow instructions in the OP word for word, and you will be fine. But READ READ READ 3x before jumping in.
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ihateDISCO said:
As the title states today i got my sgs s II. impressed with it so far but i want to start flashing new roms. Came from the sgs 4g i am familiar with cwm, odin and superoneclick but looking at roms here i see that there are ICS roms that have special requirements as to flashing (read the megamix install instructions) and i don't want to brick or otherwise mess this phone up. if anyone can guide in the right direction where to start and the differences in the roms on this forum id really appreciate it.
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It's hard to brick. Use Odin, flash something with root, and use CWM beyond that. Generally, ROM features are listed in the threads where they're posted. You might start out by reading through some threads.
thx for the info i was a little confused about the ics was looking thru and the tuesday rom looks very nice. again thank you for the info and for putting up with a noob.
I agree with what everyone has said.
For what it's worth:
Eugene's Macnut is my daily driver. I try them all, and I am always going back to it. Fantastic battery life, great performance, and everything just works. The custom driver is fantastic--already highly undervolted.
If you don't care about wi-fi calling, his CM7 is fantastic.
If you want ICS, they are all basically the same right now, with a few tweaks / mods / themeing here or there.
Yaldak's vanilla update will be the next ICS that I try (none are quite stable enough for me yet...and no wifi calling) whenever he releases it.
Also--if you haven't already, just CWM via Odin, and you can be done. I never even booted into the stock version when I got the phone.
any working links for the cwm? looking thru posts cant find one that will open.
ihateDISCO said:
any working links for the cwm? looking thru posts cant find one that will open.
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this is a zip i put together. it has:
Odin 1.85
CWM recovery.tar.md5
ADB / USB Drivers for the t989
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/622730/t989.zip
Enjoy!
I recently rooted and started flashing my GS2 as well as my GF's G2x. For the GS2, I've tried Tuesday's BluRay. It's really nice..very fast and smooth, great looking themes for it too, but I found it was a bit too limited, and eventually had to load another launcher and reconfigure some of the sounds. I also really missed the time on the status bar (M&S has since put out a patch that added the clock to one of the themes, unfortunately it wasn't the theme I preferred). I ran with that for a couple days and have since flashed Foxstar. I really like Foxstar's included utilities and tools, but it was a bit laggy coming out of the lockscreen and scrolling through pages. I've read that loading faux's kernel over the included synergy helps a lot. Will probably do that in a bit and run with foxstar for a few days to test out performance and battery life. But I'm getting itchy fingers and might try one of the CM7 ROMs or Juggernaut soon. I'm making Nandroids of each install I've done (as well as the stock), and eventually I'll pick one to run as a daily driver.
I recommend Eugene's next CM7 update the R3. I've been running with it since R1 and it's superb.
With the massive customizations it's hard to go back to GB or the alpha like ICS's out there. Although the latter have great qualities.
does the cm7 have the tv out function via the mhl cable?
Since you're new here. The few times a gs2 was bricked is because of:
1. flash a rom different galaxy s2 rom as in the international, the att, sprint, old vibrant. We can flash the skyrocket roms though.
2. Using odin to flash a stock rom incorrectly. i.e. using a pit file, battery falls out etc
3. the Phone just DIES OUT. Believe it or not, some people's phone just shuts off and won't turn on again.
But other than that, our phone is pretty hard to brick if you're not stupid.
T989 is a beast and is very hard to brick if you have a lil bit of root knowledge...everything ive learned has been thru google , trial and error and the bad ass devs here at xda..if u search for it you will find the answers to all your questions
ihateDISCO said:
As the title states today i got my sgs s II. impressed with it so far but i want to start flashing new roms. Came from the sgs 4g i am familiar with cwm, odin and superoneclick but looking at roms here i see that there are ICS roms that have special requirements as to flashing (read the megamix install instructions) and i don't want to brick or otherwise mess this phone up. if anyone can guide in the right direction where to start and the differences in the roms on this forum id really appreciate it.
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Sell it and get a phone with better development. This ones is horrific imho, but you know what they say about opinions. 8)
I am currently running Agat63's tFD26_v0.1.0 Rooted Odexed along with FD26 kernel w/ rogue cwm that was taken from Calkulin's_E4GT_2_ROM_v1.5 and I want to do a nandroid backup. Is it safe to do the backup from this kernel or do I need to go back to EL26+cwm?
Also, what would be the safest way to restore said backup if I am on another ICS rom? I don't think I will be playing with AOKP or CM9 for some time so those are not in question.
Reflash the El26 CWM kernel, nandroid, then reflash the FD26 kernel so that your Rom will boot again.
That's all ya gotta do. If you have to restore from that nandroid, you will have to restore, then reflash the FD26 kernel for it to work.
Honestly the answer to this and many questions can be easily found in here or using Google. As instructed above basically flashing an EL26 kernel will get you started. I don't mean to be an ass but this a question you honestly should of figured out prior to flashing.
Knowing what to do before you get yourself into trouble is always a good idea. I just don't want to see you start a I bricked my phone thread that's all. Be careful and know your options in the future....
Good luck
playya said:
Honestly the answer to this and many questions can be easily found in here or using Google. As instructed above basically flashing an EL26 kernel will get you started. I don't mean to be an ass but this a question you honestly should of figured out prior to flashing.
Knowing what to do before you get yourself into trouble is always a good idea. I just don't want to see you start a I bricked my phone thread that's all. Be careful and know your options in the future....
Good luck
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Nobody is in trouble here, and quite frankly I am not sure how many times someone has answered a question about a kernel that is from a rom that was released a couple days ago. But maybe my question SHOULD have been is this newest kernel safe to back up with.
CyberpodS2 said:
Nobody is in trouble here, and quite frankly I am not sure how many times someone has answered a question about a kernel that is from a rom that was released a couple days ago. But maybe my question SHOULD have been is this newest kernel safe to back up with.
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A day ago a week ago a month ago the process is still the same my friend I see you got a little upset my bad but your question is no different than the process noted all over xda epic touch forum.
I am basically saying that asking the question can open up multiple answers and may only confuse you more. Follow the developers wishes and those who know better than us and things should go great for you. Again my bad if you dont get what I am trying to say.... Happy Flashing
quite simply use the GB EL26 CWM and make sure you have a copy of the ICS kernel...
Once again good luck
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A day ago a week ago a month ago the process is still the same my friend I see you got a little upset my bad but your question is no different than the process noted all over xda epic touch forum.
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I am not upset, just wanted to nail down what is what in regards to my setup. There is conflicting (or at least concurrent) information regarding what is and is not safe to flash with repacked kernels vs. the EL26+CWM.
I did a lot of searching and reading before asking my question. I have read that nothing should be flashed with the rogue repacks. That modems and kernels are safe but not roms. That any zips that do not format are safe. Etc... I truly do understand your frustration with what seems to be similar questions being asked daily. Maybe I did not read enough different posts, but just 5 minutes after reading your reply I read this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25850359&postcount=165
You might understand why I thought to ask about my specific rom/kernel install. I do appreciate the time you took to reply twice and no I don't think your being an ass.
From what I have read and through my own experience, the AOSP type ROMS are really the only ones that you need to backup using the EL26 kernel. I have switched between agat/calk/venum/stock rooted using the rogue fd02 kernel with no issues at all. The brick seems to happen because the AOSP kernels/ROMS are written different than the stock based ROMS and it corrupts the partition when trying to go back and forth.
T.C.P. is almost done with his AOSP Cwm kernel so it might just pay to be patient for it.
Of course, flash at your own risk always.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA
dante32278 said:
I have switched between agat/calk/venum/stock rooted using the rogue fd02 kernel with no issues at all.
Of course, flash at your own risk always.
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Question for you since you have been through those roms. Did you have a favorite? I came from Blazer 4.1 to tFD26_v0.1.0 and so far am happy with it. That being said I was wondering if any of the others had a shiny spot worth looking at...
Calks is super fast....the new one from reactive disorder has been very smooth and is my current daily...agat roms are nice and run smooth....personally I like the rubix from reactive disorder. No issues with the rom and he is all over the message board for it.
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dante32278 said:
Calks is super fast....the new one from reactive disorder has been very smooth and is my current daily...agat roms are nice and run smooth....personally I like the rubix from reactive disorder. No issues with the rom and he is all over the message board for it.
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Sweet... Thanks!
CyberpodS2 said:
I am not upset, just wanted to nail down what is what in regards to my setup. There is conflicting (or at least concurrent) information regarding what is and is not safe to flash with repacked kernels vs. the EL26+CWM.
I did a lot of searching and reading before asking my question. I have read that nothing should be flashed with the rogue repacks. That modems and kernels are safe but not roms. That any zips that do not format are safe. Etc... I truly do understand your frustration with what seems to be similar questions being asked daily. Maybe I did not read enough different posts, but just 5 minutes after reading your reply I read this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25850359&postcount=165
You might understand why I thought to ask about my specific rom/kernel install. I do appreciate the time you took to reply twice and no I don't think your being an ass.
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Believe me I understand your frustration but it seems what may work for one does not always work for another and I would prefer you to be cautious and like you said SAFE way to backup as opposed to a way that someone on here may have had luck with... But it seems you got it under control so again enjoy!
playya said:
Believe me I understand your frustration but it seems what may work for one does not always work for another and I would prefer you to be cautious and like you said SAFE way to backup as opposed to a way that someone on here may have had luck with... But it seems you got it under control so again enjoy!
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Thanks man!
Hi folks,
Just decided to retire my old S3 and when looking for a new phone my main requirement was to get a good DAC built in without breaking the bank or renewing my contract, ended up with the Sprint Note 2. Naturally I was excited but quickly put off by the stock ROM so I decided to root/flash, etc. This is what happened so far;
-Rooted with newest TWRP and root verified on stock rom (followed NK2 instructions)
-Made the big mistake of flashing now without backup, after trying a couple of roms I kept having the same problem (phone gets stuck in load animation indefinitely regardless of rom flashed)
-Gave up on custom roms so I flashed a rooted stock NE2 rom and phone turned on wooohooooooo
-But wait, no network connection, no voice or data, tried to flash modem zip file from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2139889 but it keeps saying zip is corrupt, redownloaded & recopied to SD with the same result.
Now I have a working phone but not so working since I can't place calls. What went wrong? any help is very very appreciated.
Phone works after flashing Alliance ROM but somehow now TWRP recovery is gone and phone is UnRooted which is less than ideal but it works nevertheless...
Now before I go off wasting a whole day flashing & waiting for battery to recharge can anyone please point me in the right direction?
I need to figure out the following:
-Root method that works, I'm on Alliance NE2 now
-Which recovery is best recommended for current ROMs?
-Need a kernel that enables audio features like Direct DAC & upsampling
-ROM that actually works with said Kernel and functions at least 90% with wifi tethering etc.?
Surprised it's this difficult with this phone coming from the S3 which took me no more than an hour first time rooting/flashing.
hhmmm 63 views and nobody able to help?
Currently stuck on this ROM, which is horrible because maps doesn't work well, pandora crashes, UI fc's left & right and to top it off the phone is sluggish in every way possible.
Unified Toolkit not working, drivers installed properly, ADB visible in device manager, debugging enabled yet phone can not be seen by Toolkit.
I really don't want to switch back to my cracked S3 but I'm not left with many options considering my note 2 is barely usable now.
Is anyone out there... there.... ere... ere... ere.....
lol seriously feeling like I'm the only person left in these forums.
Use odin to flash recovery but make sure you uncheck reboot option. Once flashed remove battery and while doing the recovery hotkeys insert battery. Now wipe everything and flash another rom.
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here's what I've done now;
-Flashed newest TWRP via Odin
-Wiped & flashed Rwilco12's NE2
-Rebooted and phone booted yipeeee
-No cellular connection, crap phone i hate you
-Rebooted to recovery & flashed NE2 Modem
-Rebooted again and recovery is now gone
So either I get root but can't use the phone as a PHONE
or I loose Root and get basically the same POS I started with.
I've given up on eye candy, custom rom, custom settings and my expectations have dwindled down to just ANY ROM + Root + Tether yet that can't even be accomplished. I know I'm doing something wrong but at this point I'm over 10 hours into trying to figure this out and have no idea what to do next. Anything?
Finally:
CWM Recovery - OmniROM - Micro Gapps - Devil Kernel - Rooted
In case someone is in my shoes and hating life, I'll save you a lot of headache by telling you that TWRP recovery does not work for 90% of the ROMs that are still available for this phone so use Phil'z CWM
oceanisbleu said:
Finally:
CWM Recovery - OmniROM - Micro Gapps - Devil Kernel - Rooted
In case someone is in my shoes and hating life, I'll save you a lot of headache by telling you that TWRP recovery does not work for 90% of the ROMs that are still available for this phone so use Phil'z CWM
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Twrp 2.8.6.x works for almost every rom but you will find most users recommend philz. I as a wantabe dev will suggest philz 6.0.7.9 expect in a few rare cases with aroma installer needing twrp. Personally I have philz 6.9.7.9, twrp 2.8.6.0, shift dual recovery and devil dual recovery zip on my external sdcard. This way I always have what I need depending on what I am doing.
All this info along with solutions to every problem is here on xda already. It may take some time to find everything but really the users should do his homework before doing anything to the phone anyways.
Also if you read the rom thread (Alliance) you would know why you lost root. Simply put you updated supersu app and binary. It is a known issue on every ne2 based custom rom for this device.
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Hey thanks for the feedback.
Almost everything I tried on twrp failed, when flashing anything I follow all instructions in the OP's first page. In Alliance's case the resolution to the issue does not come up till page 23, I'll just be honest & say I haven't and probably will never read every page of comments before flashing a ROM, 10 pages okay but beyond that it's more trouble than it's worth.
Can that same issue happen with all other ROMs? on Omni I just ran Root Checker & it said not properly installed!
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Hey thanks for the feedback.
Almost everything I tried on twrp failed, when flashing anything I follow all instructions in the OP's first page. In Alliance's case the resolution to the issue does not come up till page 23, I'll just be honest & say I haven't and probably will never read every page of comments before flashing a ROM, 10 pages okay but beyond that it's more trouble than it's worth.
Can that same issue happen with all other ROMs? on Omni I just ran Root Checker & it said not properly installed!
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I will read every page myself even if it takes a week. You say reading it is more trouble than it is worth which is why you had that issue with Alliance. Same goes for your omni issue.
If you don't want to read that is up to you. A google search will normally help with common issues. I dont mind helping but you have to help yourself first. Not to be rude but I wont answer your omni question because you have not looked. Ypir issue is the number 1 issue omni users have.
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won't argue with your opinion as I have my own
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won't argue with your opinion as I have my own
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I see you edited that a bunch. I dont mind helping. I have been helping so far. Now about the omni gps. I only know on possible fix bit it is a pain.
1. Flash stock/stock based rom
2. Get gps lock
3. While locked and in app reboot to recovery
4. Wipe and install aosp rom & gapps or restore aosp backup
Then you might get gps lock.
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reading back I realized some clarity on my part would have been helpful rather than make a general statement.
So the issue with reading 25, 50 or a 100 pages isn't by choice (may have sounded arrogant the way I said it at first) but I work 50 hrs a week, I do work on my home myself, I rent out rooms to students, I have other projects going, etc. so a very very busy lifestyle. Not to mention the daily crap that tends to come up all the time the moment I get home from work so in short, I really can't afford the time to read in that much detail whether I want to or not.
Regardless, by no means am I lazy when it comes to research, notice my post count? yet I've been here since 2009, and since 09 I've had at least 8 different phones (windows phones too) I really try to figure out everything I need on my own so in this case I spent 3 days working on my initial issues, after that I posted this thread which was 8 days ago and had it figured out and finished yesterday (a few bugs aside), that's easily 10 days I spent at least an hour or two a day working on one thing. Surely you understand how frustrating that must begin to feel.
Regarding my last reply, haha I had to delete most of it because I realized I was beginning to take my frustration out on you when in fact you're the only person who actually offered help (still very very thankful) and to top it off I screwed up the rest of the reply when I mentioned GPS, got that mixed up with the topic we were actually discussing (losing root) this happened because I was reading through the GPS issues before I got to your reply and yah mixed it all up, so again apologies for the lack of clarity and thanks for your last reply, it's more straight forward than all the comments I found on that issue.
You won't have to explain anything else I promise haha and I did all this just now but want to verify I did it correctly so I don't come back to it again. After flashing ROM/Gaps/Kernel & supersu, never update supersu after running rom correct?. Root verified as of 30 minutes ago.
GPS, this one is a big big deal because I use it for work but I had already found the answer pretty quickly as I had read something about it before I even flashed Omni.
I do know how frustrating it can be. I have been in worse spots and had to create my own fixes which I have shared here. As far as time goes I understand that being a parent of 7 children.
I am still active here and always willing to help others long as they help themselves also. We seem to have gotten off badly. While some of your post seemed you had done nothing to help yourself. So lets forget earlier stuff and move on.
Yes you seem to have all the steps correct.
FYI android 5.0-5.0.2 all have gps issues but there is a flashable fix. Most new 5.1.1 builds have gps fixed.
If you run into any issues feel free to ask but include steps you have taken to fix the issue. The more you tell the better help you can get. Plus others wont think you are wanting to be spoon fed.
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haha thanks for understanding, very much appreciated.
7 kids??? where do you find the time? my situation does not fare in comparison :laugh:
Now that I've resolved the "failed" issue when flashing ROMs I may be brave enough to test some 5.x.x out, I had stuck to 4.x.x because I was under the impression that they were more stable...
Would you be willing to recommend any specific ROMs based on our discussion?
By the way, I tend to ramble on and on most forums that's a bit faux pas so I've sorta been conditioned to keep it sweet & short, clearly that is a bad approach on here, we live & learn
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haha thanks for understanding, very much appreciated.
7 kids??? where do you find the time? my situation does not fare in comparison :laugh:
Now that I've resolved the "failed" issue when flashing ROMs I may be brave enough to test some 5.x.x out, I had stuck to 4.x.x because I was under the impression that they were more stable...
Would you be willing to recommend any specific ROMs based on our discussion?
By the way, I tend to ramble on and on most forums that's a bit faux pas so I've sorta been conditioned to keep it sweet & short, clearly that is a bad approach on here, we live & learn
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Well I personally have a Frankenstein device. It started out as a sprint l900 but I removed the sdcard/sim board and put a n7100 board so I can use a cricket sim. This causes issues with calls on aosp so I run modified t0lte (n7105 international) roms.
As far as 5.1.1 roms I personally build 2. First is CyanideL (highly modified cm base) and broken (a highly modified slimroms base). Those two are really the only two worth flashing. There is also cm and I think a liquid rom but they don't have the features of the two I compile.
If you want a stock based rom I did the Community Rom (s5/n3 based) which is stable with only two issues. Spen clipping does not work and updating suoersu causes loss of root.
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As far as 5.1.1 roms I personally build 2. First is CyanideL (highly modified cm base) and broken (a highly modified slimroms base). Those two are really the only two worth flashing. There is also cm and I think a liquid rom but they don't have the features of the two I compile, I believe Phill'z CWM download link is down as well.
If you want a stock based rom I did the Community Rom (s5/n3 based) which is stable with only two issues. Spen clipping does not work and updating suoersu causes loss of root.
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wow CyanideL is you, how did I miss that?? looking at too many ROMs is how I suppose...
Going to CyanideL asap. Seriously thank you for keeping the CyanideL thread up to date, it drove me crazy to read & read & read in ROM threads for a while until I decided "okey let's give this one a try" only to find out that the download links are broken or the files are no longer there, had that issue with Omni till I found comparable files on another website (gapps I think it was) and Phill'z CWM thread has a dead end download link as well.
I was really really wanting CyanideL to work for me last week (when I was having the flashing issue) and was so bummed out every time I failed to flash it. I plan to make a donation as soon as I get it working, I feel like I owe you simply for the time you've spent on my thread alone and of course I love supporting people who support families :highfive:
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wow CyanideL is you, how did I miss that?? looking at too many ROMs is how I suppose...
Going to CyanideL asap. Seriously thank you for keeping the CyanideL thread up to date, it drove me crazy to read & read & read in ROM threads for a while until I decided "okey let's give this one a try" only to find out that the download links are broken or the files are no longer there, had that issue with Omni till I found comparable files on another website (gapps I think it was) and Phill'z CWM thread has a dead end download link as well.
I was really really wanting CyanideL to work for me last week (when I was having the flashing issue) and was so bummed out every time I failed to flash it. I plan to make a donation as soon as I get it working, I feel like I owe you simply for the time you've spent on my thread alone and of course I love supporting people who support families :highfive:
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Well the donation would be nice but understand when you hit my donation button/link it will take ypu to the Red Cross donation site. That is not a mistake. I personally dont take donations and feel of someone wants to donate something it should go where it can be used by those who need it.
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