[Q] Root and downgrade w/o ADB - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have the G2 (HTC Vision/ Desire Z) and would like to root it and install Synergy custom ROM. The problem is in rooting the device. I have Gingerbread (2.3.4) and most of the easier rooting methods only work for 2.3.3. How do I downgrade and root without using ADB? I've also heard about something called "swap" could someone also explain that?
Thank you in advance for any help or suggestions!

Swap is a external partition on your SD card the phone uses as extra ram basically. Helps to have a higher class SD card with higher read and write speeds also.
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have a look:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097977
i didnĀ“t root this way... so read the thread to see how it works or not
i recommend the wiki guide

Havent used this but it reportedly works... LINK

Try HTC Super Tool, but MIUI ROM is better than Syngery

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Flashing with pvt4 and 0.93

Ok so i am pretty confused, i have rooted my phone. But not got S-OFF because of it being pvt4. Does this mean i cant flash a custom ROM?
I really wanna flash this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829734
Also, is it essential i have to make a goldcard?
HTC Desire 2.2 (Rooted) On TMOBILE UK with PVT4 and HBOOT 0.93
SeanBond said:
Ok so i am pretty confused, i have rooted my phone. But not got S-OFF because of it being pvt4. Does this mean i cant flash a custom ROM?
I really wanna flash this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829734
Also, is it essential i have to make a goldcard?
HTC Desire 2.2 (Rooted) On TMOBILE UK with PVT4 and HBOOT 0.93
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Is your device PVT4 old (20000) or PVT4 new (40000)?
Read this thread to find out how to check this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853583
You shouldn't have any problems rooting and flashing custom ROMs if your device has a PVT4 20000 erasesize. Use unrEVOked v3.22, safe and best successful method so far.
If your PVT4 has an erasesize of 40000, then i know of only of certain number of ROMs that have been confirmed to work with this type of device - Oxygen, LeeDroid's, ReflexTSenseHD, and MIUI.
You should not have a problem flashing any of these custom ROMs with the modified CWM-AlphaRev Recovery 2.5.1.3, which you must install with unrEVOked if your phone has an erasesize of 40000
As you were originally branded to T-Mobile, you will need to create a Gold Card only if you want to revert back to your original stock ROM (i.e. later on for warranty reasons). You should be able to find your original RUU by searching shipped-roms.com.
Thanks for the detailed reply!
I dont really care about the warrenty thing etc, and i could always do that later i guess.
Ill have a check now on what it is.
So will apps2sd still work etc?
EDIT:
Ok, i have checked and i have 2000! YUPPEEEE!
I have already rooted with unrEVOked, does this mean that i need to again? i also have clockwork
A2SD+/Data2SD will work fine for you and since you are already rooted, you will not need to re-root or reinstall clockwork either. Flash away in confidence
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Awesome, do i need to make a partition to do a2sd? and does it matter i dont have S-OFF?
Cheers for the help man
Yes you will need to, all custom roms require this prerequisite really. You can use Rom Manager to achieve this, it allows you to create up to an SD-EXT size of 512 MB for dedicated app data space. If you require a bigger EXT partition use AmonRa and flash with unrevoked, or use GParted - there are plenty guides on the forum on how to do this.
Yes, you dont need s-off, unless you want full root access to your phone.
Edit: sorry for the delay in replying... still trying to get use to swype.
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Not too bothered about full root tbh, aslong as i have a2sd.
Cheers for the help mate
Then you are good to go after you make your ext partition
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Just backing up my SD card now, the only thing i will miss is the sence clock
I don't use that clock anymore, nor do I use sense UI... I'm a fully fledged miui convert
If you want the sense clock, search the marketplace for 'sense clock widget', there are many variations - customisable too
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Yeah ill have a look, i might look at some other options too.
I <3 the clock though, its actually one of the reasons i got an HTC lol
SeanBond said:
Yeah ill have a look, i might look at some other options too.
I <3 the clock though, its actually one of the reasons i got an HTC lol
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Well if that's your thing then by all means, go for it
I totally understand where you are coming from though... I used to love sense ui and everything it had to offer but once I tried miui, I was amazed at how good it actually was/is, running out of superlatives for it
You could also give the DHD roms a go (ported from Desire HD), as they include the cool new sense features.
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Sorry for hijacking the thread, I've read the discussion so far but I have a question, it seems SeanBond did not debrand b4 rooting and went ahead to install a custom rom. Pls can I do same as I'm presently using a O2 branded phone, do advise me
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scorror said:
Sorry for hijacking the thread, I've read the discussion so far but I have a question, it seems SeanBond did not debrand b4 rooting and went ahead to install a custom rom. Pls can I do same as I'm presently using a O2 branded phone, do advise me
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No need to apologise and its good that you are making the effort to ask before a mistake is made, so i appreciate that.
He did debrand by using unrEVOked - it does not require you to use a Gold Card for it and provides you with root access (software root) to the phone. Only when you want to return to stock rom, you then you will need to create and use a Gold Card before running the appropriate RUU. If you want to create a Gold Card, use the one in my sig below.
Thanks. Do I need to create a gold card first b4 installing a custom rom or when I want to return to stock. Or if I'm on custom rom it's possible to still create a gold card thereafter
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Yeah i didnt make a goldcard.
Was pretty easy, flashed right from ROM manager.
scorror said:
Thanks. Do I need to create a gold card first b4 installing a custom rom or when I want to return to stock. Or if I'm on custom rom it's possible to still create a gold card thereafter
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You have two options here.
If you are branded and want to root in order to install a custom ROM, then you either create a Gold Card to unlock the phone's CID, just use unrEVOked, which does not require the creation of a Gold Card and provides you with root access to your phone, thus allowing you to flash custom roms, custom kernels, and custom radios. I don't know the full workings of unrEVOked, but it bypassed your phones CID lock feature and does not require you to create a Gold Card.
You only need to create a Gold Card if you want to return to stock rom as you were originally network branded.
How do they know? there is nothing visual that shows its branded?
SeanBond said:
How do they know? there is nothing visual that shows its branded?
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Software branding, for instance, when you boot the phone, it will show your network carrier splashscreen, like T-Mobile, or 02, or Orange. Also, their own icons will also be visible on the homescreen, for example.

[Q] Root access to install apps to sd

Hi after spending about a week reading through forums I managed to change my friends HTC HD2 to android using the LEO "Stock" NAND Android ROM.
All went great thanks to the excellent instuctions on here.
I then put z4root on and app2sd and all worked great.
I then deceicded to buy an HTC desire for myself not the HD one.
However maybe I should have done some more reading first as I cant find a way to root device to install apps to sd card.
I dont really want to flash another rom as phone is new and under warrant.Can you root without flashing a new rom or somehow move them to sd
Have I just made a huge mistake buying this phone or is there a way.
All help appreciated thanks
How does rooting void the warranty less than flashing a custom rom? Don't answer cause it doesn't.
It is possible to root and keep the current rom, but if you want to enable A2SD then it's a lot of work (not talking about the froyo crap).
So if you want A2SD is suggest you root with Unrevoked and flash Leedroid. Don't forget to make a ext partition on the sd card before flashing.
Disclaimer: You are the only one responsible for you phone, no one else!
You can root the stock ROM as TheGhost 233 said. You can also use AlphaRev's S-Off as well on it if you wanted.
As for me, I couldn't be bothered with A2SD so I just S-Off'd and then used the n1table to increase my internal memory. The ROM I use uses bugger all in the system. Also, you can move apps to SD card anyway if you have 2.2+.
gaz1888 said:
Hi after spending about a week reading through forums I managed to change my friends HTC HD2 to android using the LEO "Stock" NAND Android ROM.
All went great thanks to the excellent instuctions on here.
I then put z4root on and app2sd and all worked great.
I then deceicded to buy an HTC desire for myself not the HD one.
However maybe I should have done some more reading first as I cant find a way to root device to install apps to sd card.
I dont really want to flash another rom as phone is new and under warrant.Can you root without flashing a new rom or somehow move them to sd
Have I just made a huge mistake buying this phone or is there a way.
All help appreciated thanks
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No, I don't think you've made a mistake buying this particular phone....seriously....
As for rooting, use the Unrevoked method which is the easiest....Alpharev S-OFF works too ( I think you can't flash custom HBOOT images if your phone has the latest PVT-4 NAND..better check on that..)
Here's the complete guide from the Desire Android Development section of the forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
Thanks for the replies I am waiting on phone getting delivered today from virgin.
I will post back when I get a chance to have a look at it.
I got root using unrevoked3 but my phone is s-on
My phone is on virgin branded and I presume locked though not tried another sin in it yet.
If I wanted to flash leedroid Rom onto phone what steps would I have to do
I put on setcpu so that seems to have helped battery life but would like custom Rom on
Thanks
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Hold on wait a minute you don't have to flash a new ROM at all your v-mobile phone should be on froyo (android 2.2) current software version 2.22.351.3 which already lets you put some apps onto your sd card at the moment i only have 3 downloaded apps that are on phone only mode.
[edit] you can also add downloaded apps from computer to sd card and install with Astro - Every one that i have done this with enabled move to sd and i still have 98mb of space to store more apps (even with the ones that are installed by v-mobile)
Thanks for reply yes it is on new update but I thought some of the modded roms were using less battery power so I wanted to know how to install one.
I have rooted using unrevoked 3 but i notice my phone is s-on
Just wanted to know if someone could advise me on the steps to do this or point me to a guide.
Will look at that astro as well thanks.
I have modinstall also
The issue you have is should things go wrong you can't return to stock as the Virgin RUU hasn't been leaked, so make a gold card now before you continue. This way, should the worst happen, you can flash the generic HTC RUU to get back to stock
Then look at custom ROMs using A2SD+ - most do it these days but best to check the ROM thread in question to make sure. Then partition your SD card and flash the ROM and you're good to go.
S-OFF isn't something you NEED - just means you can make changes to the OS without having to go into recovery first. If you're not going to be making a lot of changes bar a new ROM then leave that for now
EddyOS said:
The issue you have is should things go wrong you can't return to stock as the Virgin RUU hasn't been leaked, so make a gold card now before you continue. This way, should the worst happen, you can flash the generic HTC RUU to get back to stock
Then look at custom ROMs using A2SD+ - most do it these days but best to check the ROM thread in question to make sure. Then partition your SD card and flash the ROM and you're good to go.
S-OFF isn't something you NEED - just means you can make changes to the OS without having to go into recovery first. If you're not going to be making a lot of changes bar a new ROM then leave that for now
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This is what i was thinking and knowing v-mobile if you can't find a stock ROM to flash back to may have no warranty. That's the only reason i havent messed with mine
Early version (2.1) are about so you could downgrade using the guide on here but I don't know if it'd work (depends on the HBOOT)
Either way, a gold card is needed

Stock Rom..

Hi guys quick q for the devs...just got my desire back from being repaired and I'm actually happy with the speed and stability of the stock Rom yet still suffering from the low memory...was wondering if I root it again is there a script I can run to get aps2sd and still keep my stock Rom as I only want the extra space ?
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You could try to get DarkTremor working. That's the only script I know of tbh. You could do a quick search.
Simply run the revoluntionary program and get S-OFF & Root. (without flashing a new ROM)
You'll keep the stock rom, but with the added perk of having A2SD, being able to do nandroid backups, underclock/overclock, etc etc.
I did this for my old HTC Desire, and also my new HTC EVO 3D, works like a treat.
bailz2506 said:
Hi guys quick q for the devs...just got my desire back from being repaired and I'm actually happy with the speed and stability of the stock Rom yet still suffering from the low memory...was wondering if I root it again is there a script I can run to get aps2sd and still keep my stock Rom as I only want the extra space ?
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Baadnwz already made a version of the stock 2.3 that allows you to use your SD as supplemental memory. Check it out !

[Q] HTC Wildfire - rooting/custom ROM questions

Hi all, can somebody give me some advice to help out a friend.
My housemate has an HTC Wildfire and told me it keeps saying out of storage space errors. So I had a look at it, just assuming I needed to delete some apps, remove old cache data and maybe move some apps to the SD card. On checking, he has 7MB space free, so I thought he must have loads of apps installed, but there's only about 7?! The internal storage was so low and yet the SD card storage was hardly used at all, and there was also no option to move apps to the SD card. Didn't know these phones had so little storage space (I almost got one of these before my x10 3 years ago!)
I'm guessing the best thing to do is root the phone and clear out junk apps etc using Titanium Backup. I've done rooting and using of custom ROMs before on my old Xperia X10, but never on any other phone so is there an easy way to do it on an HTC Wildfire? As I am aware the process will be different. Also what sort of custom ROMs were developed for the Wildfire? Just upto Gingerbread or ICS and beyond, and if the latter, do they run better than GB?
Any help would be appreciated
Cheers
Just to be clear Your friend has HTC Wildfire S and not HTC WILDFIRE...If he has Wildfire S then follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1878031
Some Wildfire S models manufactured in 2012 gave some problems regarding recovery..If above mentioned guide fails and you can't get to recovery then follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1997465...
If the Wildfire S is manufactured in 2012 and you had to follow the second guide then you can't install ROMs based on CYANOGENMOD... You can only install ROMs based on stock ROM...
Thanks ever so much for the reply - I will have a look through those links. I did wonder whether he had the Wildfire or Wildfire S (before yesterday I had no idea there were two models) but then I guessed it would be the S as he is on 2.3.5 and yet the standard Wildfire shipped with 2.1 or 2.2 I believe.
Is there a 'safe list' of bloatware apps etc that can be removed from the Wildfire S with Titanium once it has been rooted?
Many thanks
alex_ncfc said:
Thanks ever so much for the reply - I will have a look through those links. I did wonder whether he had the Wildfire or Wildfire S (before yesterday I had no idea there were two models) but then I guessed it would be the S as he is on 2.3.5 and yet the standard Wildfire shipped with 2.1 or 2.2 I believe.
Is there a 'safe list' of bloatware apps etc that can be removed from the Wildfire S with Titanium once it has been rooted?
Many thanks
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I don't know about safe list.. but there are some ROMs with removed bloatware like Kimsmod supreme,Wildchild etc.. and also 3.5 ROMs..
P.S. Wildfire has a trackball under screen.. and Wildfire S doesn't have trackball..
Back again. Thanks for the replies
Finally got a working USB cable for my housemate's phone. He still wants to root, and being that I have done this on my old Xperia X10, he wants me to look into it - however, on reading that tutorial you (very kindly!) provided the link for above, it seems very complicated. Is there not an easier, simpler solution, or is this the best/fastest way?
Also I keep reading about Int2Ext in these forums - is this something that allows the SD card to be partitioned and used for apps? If so, does this come built in with custom ROMs or is it something you must do manually??
Many thanks
What is happening?
Is everyone seriously replying
the man is asking a question about HTC WILDFIRE NOT WILDFIRE S
hey dude plz delete this thread and open a new thread in your forum "HTC WILDFIRE"
What are you on about? It is the Wildfire-S....
alex_ncfc said:
Back again. Thanks for the replies
Finally got a working USB cable for my housemate's phone. He still wants to root, and being that I have done this on my old Xperia X10, he wants me to look into it - however, on reading that tutorial you (very kindly!) provided the link for above, it seems very complicated. Is there not an easier, simpler solution, or is this the best/fastest way?
Also I keep reading about Int2Ext in these forums - is this something that allows the SD card to be partitioned and used for apps? If so, does this come built in with custom ROMs or is it something you must do manually??
Many thanks
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There is HTC SuperTool v3 that can root your phone.This method would be the easiest (after you have unlocked the bootloader) assuming it works but unfortunately, it didn't work for me.
INT2EXT allows you to use a partitioned section of your SD card for more storage of apps More info here. Most custom roms support the use of the INT2EXT script

[Q] Best Desire ROM?

Hi ive got a question.
Since there are so many desire roms out there, what is the best rom in terms of stability, memory and performance.
I just got a desire and my stock rom (froyo 2.2) has only 68mb of internal space where it should be ~150mb.
I dont care what Android version its based on as long as i get more app space.
Im having trouble in rooting my phone, ive used the multiple guides on xda without success (when i tried i didnt have a sd card, nor do i know if its needed). However when i do succeed i want to flash a rom, so i would know what rom to use...
Im buying a 2gb card today since i dont have one in my phone.
So if any one can help me, thanks!!
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No 'best ROM'....
Find what's best for you and your needs, not what's best for others...
There are plenty to choose from, that's the point . As a general rule, the older Gingerbread ROMs will be more stable, but the newer ones can be 'stable enough' depending on your definition.
Any custom ROM will have better memory than stock. You only need root and a correctly partitioned sd card for this, use 4EXT recovery or gparted only. As you only have a 2GB card, then a 1GB ext4 partition may be the right balance.
Most ROMs will have an A2SD script built in for more app space, or you just have to activate it (read / search each thread).
It's also advantageous to s-off the phone. Some roms fit onto smaller hboots to get even more app space.
Start here, find the bit on using revolutionary to s-off.
What he said ^
Please no more "best ROM" threads.
thread closed. :highfive:

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