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i havent gone threw every review but any of u guys catch anything in any review?
the epic by far was the best phone ive used but the GPS was down right awful and sprint nor samsung did anything to fix it
XDA fixed it enough to keep me happy. I think people are blowing this gps thing way out of proportion. "If it doesn't work perfectly or, at least as good as other phones then it must be the most awful thing ever!".
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XDA fixed it enough to keep me happy. I think people are blowing this gps thing way out of proportion. "If it doesn't work perfectly or, at least as good as other phones then it must be the most awful thing ever!".
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was never blown out of proportion.....my girls epic who is stock can never get a lock
mine who was rooted would get signal but never better then 40m lock and would lose signal constantly.....try taking an 9 hour drive with it on and see how many times ur signal is lost
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was never blown out of proportion.....my girls epic who is stock can never get a lock
mine who was rooted would get signal but never better then 40m lock and would lose signal constantly.....try taking an 9 hour drive with it on and see how many times ur signal is lost
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I certainly remember that a lot of people had trouble, but I never did. Mine always locked perfectly and quickly and never gave me trouble on drives short and long.
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was never blown out of proportion.....my girls epic who is stock can never get a lock
mine who was rooted would get signal but never better then 40m lock and would lose signal constantly.....try taking an 9 hour drive with it on and see how many times ur signal is lost
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I never understood the gps deal. It seemed so sporadic. Mine always worked and I am stock. I used it last weekend on EH17 to drive 5 hours to saint louis and it was perfect the entire way there and back. Didn't cut out once. But you see some people worth working gps and others without it.
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I have to agree on the gps sucking. On any drive over an hour I could expect to loose lock. I'd imagine if we looked in some of the other GSII forums we might get a clue.
the only thing i ever loved more about my evo then the epic was the gps....htc never gave me gps issues ever
when i had the bionic or droid x they both locked on quick
Backing up the GPS being just short of useless. Remember, just because YOU haven't experienced the problem doesn't prove there isn't one. On Eclair I had very little trouble, but on FroYo I would constantly lose signal mid-trip, having to frequently turn it off and back on to re-lock and hope I wouldn't lose it right when I was in the middle of complex turns or had missed a turn and needed re-routing. In the Gingerbread leaks it turned to completely useless, locking up 100% after as little as 10 seconds of use, requiring a full restart of the phone to be useful again.
So yes, the Epic's biggest flaw was its next-to-useless GPS, hands down. That said, most reviews of the entire Galaxy S line agreed the GPS was bad on all versions. So far I've heard nothing of the sort about the Galaxy S II phones in Europe which suggests the entire line will be similar, including our new Epic 4G Touches.
imtjnotu said:
was never blown out of proportion.....my girls epic who is stock can never get a lock
mine who was rooted would get signal but never better then 40m lock and would lose signal constantly.....try taking an 9 hour drive with it on and see how many times ur signal is lost
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If you couldn't fix it then that wasn't the norm. I would have returned it to Sprint and got a different one within the first 30 days.
9 hour drives? No problem. Longest I've been on was 6 but the GPS didn't have any problems. The battery on the other hand...
got mine yesterday, used GPS with google nav and telenav. drove for about an hour in farm country Ohio. GPS took a few seconds longer to lock than my EVo but once locked didn't drop signal. Still a little early to tell but no obvious problems yet.
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Backing up the GPS being just short of useless. Remember, just because YOU haven't experienced the problem doesn't prove there isn't one. On Eclair I had very little trouble, but on FroYo I would constantly lose signal mid-trip, having to frequently turn it off and back on to re-lock and hope I wouldn't lose it right when I was in the middle of complex turns or had missed a turn and needed re-routing. In the Gingerbread leaks it turned to completely useless, locking up 100% after as little as 10 seconds of use, requiring a full restart of the phone to be useful again.
So yes, the Epic's biggest flaw was its next-to-useless GPS, hands down. That said, most reviews of the entire Galaxy S line agreed the GPS was bad on all versions. So far I've heard nothing of the sort about the Galaxy S II phones in Europe which suggests the entire line will be similar, including our new Epic 4G Touches.
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Since I don't know who you were responding to I will assume it was me. You know that goes both ways right. Just because YOU have experienced the problem doesn't prove there is one. I have used every official build and every gingerbread leak except EE03 and I have never had a single problem. I use GPS frequently. I have never had a lockup. I have always had an instant lock. And I have always been able to get within 10 meters with the average being 3 meters. However, I never said there wasn't a problem. I just said I never understood the issue as to why it worked for some and not others. You would think that it would be global if the hardware is identical. Makes me wonder if it has anything to do with location in respect to the satellites. Never tried to dig into it because fortunately I didn't have the issue. But I do hope that the touch is without issues because not having gps would be a deal breaker for me.
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Since I don't know who you were responding to I will assume it was me. You know that goes both ways right. Just because YOU have experienced the problem doesn't prove there is one. I have used every official build and every gingerbread leak except EE03 and I have never had a single problem. I use GPS frequently. I have never had a lockup. I have always had an instant lock. And I have always been able to get within 10 meters with the average being 3 meters. However, I never said there wasn't a problem. I just said I never understood the issue as to why it worked for some and not others. You would think that it would be global if the hardware is identical. Makes me wonder if it has anything to do with location in respect to the satellites. Never tried to dig into it because fortunately I didn't have the issue. But I do hope that the touch is without issues because not having gps would be a deal breaker for me.
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Just because he experienced the problem means that a problem exists. Whether it's a wide spread problem or a unique incident, the problem still exists. On the Epic forums people are constantly complaining about GPS issues. There are few fortunate ones like you who haven't had the same issues. I didn't have GPS issues for a while until my job had me drive long distances.
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Just because he experienced the problem means that a problem exists. Whether it's a wide spread problem or a unique incident, the problem still exists. On the Epic forums people are constantly complaining about GPS issues. There are few fortunate ones like you who haven't had the same issues. I didn't have GPS issues for a while until my job had me drive long distances.
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So if you brick your phone because of something you did is the phone bad. Is there a flaw in the phone? No. And again, I never said there wasn't a problem. Actually I said that there was a problem for some and not for others. The only point I was making is that I didn't understand why it worked for some and not others. I wish we could have found the root cause.
Generally speaking GPS on the galaxy S line sucked world wide. Generally speaking it appears that samsung fix this in the galaxy s II.
This is based on reading numerous reviews on both; though it is always possible they messed up on the epic touch as it is slightly different and has wimax; I'm expecting it to work like a charm.
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I do wonder how many folks who tested gps on the galaxy s remember to ignore wifi triangulation when voicing a comment.
Forgot about this thread and started another a bit further down. I managed to sneak GPS status onto our demo phone yesterday and it locked to 9/10 sats in less than 2 seconds from inside. Accuracy was only at 30m when I cut it off, but it was indoors in a spot where my epic cannot lock at all. Pretty sure it's fixed.
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The only point I was making is that I didn't understand why it worked for some and not others. I wish we could have found the root cause.
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I did spend a fair amount of time investigating the GPS issues on EC05. There are at least two problems: (i) GpsOne Xtra data that fails to download and update, eventually resulting in stale ephemeris and inability to get timely locks, and (ii) a RIL synchronization bug that results in the GPS crashing with 5% probability on every exit/switch of a GPS utilizing app.
The latter of those two problem is definitely confirmed and affects every EC05 Epic. However, if you only use Navigation once a day, you'll run into that bug an average once a month and might not even notice it. But it is possible to reliably reproduce.
The former of the two problems I never fully understood. The GPS should work as long as you reboot once a week, but we know folks whose phones chronically couldn't download new Xtra data on reboot, likely becuase it was attempting to do so "too quickly" after establishing a network connection. Forcing an Xtra download through GPS Test, GPS Aids, or with a patched framework resolved the issue for most of those folks. The remaining issue is that the ephemeris would still go stale very quickly (hours) on some phones, and an EFS/NVRAM clear appears to help that.
Part of the issue is that the "brokenness" of the GPS is somewhat subjective. It's entirey possible for the GPS to absolutely not be able to get an Xtra-assisted lock, but using almanac data still get one in 30-60s in a vehicle. For some folks, that might be "good enough" and wouldn't think there's much of a problem.
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Just because he experienced the problem means that a problem exists. Whether it's a wide spread problem or a unique incident, the problem still exists. On the Epic forums people are constantly complaining about GPS issues. There are few fortunate ones like you who haven't had the same issues. I didn't have GPS issues for a while until my job had me drive long distances.
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I think the opposite of what your saying is true. This problem isn't as wide spread as it seems. The few who have this problem are very loud about it and complain about it over the forums. Though I seriously doubt that they are the majority.
If fixing your gps doesn't work then you can always set it back to stock and take it in for repair. If they can't repair and you don't have insurance then you can pay a small fee for a epic with a working gps. I doubt anyone is forcing people to live with a phone that the gps doesn't work on.
Considering that it has a dedicated GPS chip "SiRFstarIV GSD4t GPS" I doubt that we are going to see the same issues.
The integrated GPS on the SoC stinks, and samsung knows that. Using the SiRFstarIV will solve 99% of peoples GPS problems.
engadget claims it is solid. fwiw. http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/15/samsung-epic-4g-touch-review/
Our calls were absolutely solid. The phone's reception is on par with the best handsets around, and we never suffered from dropped calls or degraded quality. Our calls came in absolutely clear, and we think the speakers go to 11 because we had to actually turn down the volume to comfortably hear the other end of the line. The same thing could be said about the loudspeaker for calls and music, which both came out loud and clear without needing to strain our ears or feeling like we needed to break out the headphones. However, the sound seemed a bit limited when watching a full-length blockbuster movie, though we believe this had to do with the quality of the movie itself and not the phone.Last but not least, we double-checked the GPS to make sure it wouldn't have similar concerns to the Galaxy S series, and weren' t disappointed. In several locations -- including a basement next to a window -- the GPS pulled up our location in less than ten seconds. Needless to say, this is definitely a sound improvement, one we imagine had special attention given to it throughout the course of the phone's development.
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I burned through my extended battery in 2 1/2 hours today, and 4g drops were ridiculous. I finally called tech support, and they told me to exchange for a new one. So, I got my second one, still getting 4g drops. My wifes Thunderbolt (my old phone) holds 4g full strenght in my house all day. I am highly disappointed in this phone. If Rezound gets s-off by January 15, I may be switching. It sucks, because I really like this phone other than the signal.
Also, when I talked to tech support, she said there is an update coming in March, which I also read elsewhere on these forums. Why would they wait until March, seems kind of wierd.
I always read about people complaining about this phone. I have this to say to you:
If you don't like it get another phone.
I'm sure there are plenty or Rezounds out there for you.
Haven't you guys read that the LTE network has been on the fritz?
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Cool story bro.
Sounds like an issue with the LTE tower near you. My reception has been great. I'm at 14 hours and I still have 19% left...barely had it 24 hours. If you have multiple phones wigging out, there are two possibilities:
1) The User
2) The Network
Let me guess, you restored all of your titanium backups and/or restored from Google Servers?
Here's another thought. Did you get a new 4G Sim card or did they just pop the old one into the new phone? Ta-Da.
Omg so many Verizon-noobs complaining, of course it has bad battery, it's LTE...
By the way i dont believe you in going from 100% to 0% in 2 and a half hours with two different batteries, unless you are dumb and has screen on 100% etc. If, however, you are serious, call Verizon or something.
Actually, half you guys are arrogant assholes. No, I installed everything fresh, my f*%$ing Titanium files wouldn't transfer from old Nexus back to my computer without hanging up. Yes, I have a high-end computer with no issues, yes the samsung drivers are installed, MTP sucks. Yes, I owned a TB since day one and never had 4g reception issues in my house. No, there are not tower issues, I know how to troubleshoot. I get 10mbs down on both this phone and the TB, except the TB doesn't lose its 4g signal. And yes, I got a new SIM card with my new Nexus.
Plus, I work downtown on the 33rd floor, and my TB held a 4g signal most anywhere in my office, even in the ****ter in the middle of the floor. My Nexus, burned through the battery twice in 8 hours and was in 3g half the day. But, I guess it's user error. It's clear as day there are issues with reception, it's just can you tolerate it.
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Omg so many Verizon-noobs complaining, of course it has bad battery, it's LTE...
By the way i dont believe you in going from 100% to 0% in 2 and a half hours with two different batteries, unless you are dumb and has screen on 100% etc. If, however, you are serious, call Verizon or something.
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No one said I burned through 2 batteries, I said I burned through an extended battery in 2 1/2 hours, screen is on auto, and you are an arrogant prick also. Do you assume everyone is dumb because they have issues with their phone? Also, I have been on 4g since day 1 with the Thunderbolt, I know where f##$ I get 4g and where I don't.
I had a little over 12hrs 36min with minimal usage in an area with known bad signal and had 21% left today, go figure i guess. Granted I only used my phone during my breaks and lunch. Still good for being connected to LTE all day imho. Im happy with the results I've had and I am totally realistic with battery life with an LTE phone, so much so i bought the extra battery+charger. If i happen to be in an area when I know I won't have the option to charge my phone, i swap the battery and have near full charge. It's awesome.
Software issue. Go cry to VZW please.
Yaaaaawn. User err... ogance.
Crazy world, ay?
You guys really are being dicks.
First off, it's clearly not the distance from the 4G tower because the thunderbolt is working just fine.
Second... the guy posts here saying he's had trouble with his second device. And being that an older device is working just fine he's looking for some answers. He's not trying to craptalk the device, but looking to see if anyone else has had the same trouble. That way in can gauge if he should attempt to get a third replacement, or swap out the phone for another device... or maybe someone figured out an issue with a specific ROM or discovered a radio that fixed his issue.
Instead he gets you Trollolols that are being complete dorks by telling him to switch to rezound or cry to VZW.
If you have nothing substantial or beneficial to say to his predicament, why is it so hard to just to stfu and move along?
Take that crap to androidforums.com where it belongs.
To the OP... have you attempted a different radio? Here's an article on it.
http://androidcommunity.com/leaked-...alaxy-nexus-improve-signal-slightly-20111221/
And you can try here to download some.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/12864-ra...ge__hl__+galaxy++nexus++radios__fromsearch__1
Gall0ws, thanks for the links, and support. I actually flashed the new radios on my last nexus, didn't get much of an improvement. The TB is between 75 - 85 dbm in my house, and the Nexus (including the new one), is typically between 95 - 115. I don't even care about the reading, because when I have 4g, it's fast. It's the drop outs to 3g that suck. Also, going to monitor this device for a few days before I flash the new radios, so I can really say if they made a difference. This just sucks, I was really hoping for an improvement over the Tbolt.
kwkslvr, I will take the screenshot, then punch it in your face. Do you think I am exaggerrating? Do you think I felt like taking all the **** off my phone, reflash everything back to stock and relock it, then waste an hour at Verizon, then reroot and put all my **** back on, I have no time for that. My thunderbolt is the original day one issue by the way, I don't exchange things for no reason. I don't use Titanium for anything other than restoring certain apps that I have that are no longer in market, no data.
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I burned through my extended battery in 2 1/2 hours today, and 4g drops were ridiculous. I finally called tech support, and they told me to exchange for a new one. So, I got my second one, still getting 4g drops. My wifes Thunderbolt (my old phone) holds 4g full strenght in my house all day. I am highly disappointed in this phone. If Rezound gets s-off by January 15, I may be switching. It sucks, because I really like this phone other than the signal.
Also, when I talked to tech support, she said there is an update coming in March, which I also read elsewhere on these forums. Why would they wait until March, seems kind of wierd.
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I haven't had problems with my GN, but I did find these two articles interesting regarding the whole 4G problems w/ some GN owners. I'm sure it isn't any condolence but...
1.http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/2...accurate-than-others-there-may-be-no-problem/
2.http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/2...gnal-indicator-to-better-match-other-devices/
What I find most disturbing is VZW "fix" for this is to just change/ fake what the signal actually is at and they aren't stating if the GN is correct or incorrect?!?! lol
By the way, when I got approval from Tech to exchange my device, she said there was an update coming in March in regards to the signal display issues, seems odd they would wait til March for an update. Just repeating what she said, nothing more.
Here is a speedtest with my signal strength, speeds are fine, and I am reading 101 dbm.
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I haven't had problems with my GN, but I did find these two articles interesting regarding the whole 4G problems w/ some GN owners. I'm sure it isn't any condolence but...
1.http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/2...accurate-than-others-there-may-be-no-problem/
2.http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/2...gnal-indicator-to-better-match-other-devices/
What I find most disturbing is VZW "fix" for this is to just change/ fake what the signal actually is at and they aren't stating if the GN is correct or incorrect?!?! lol
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The fix might not be simply falsifying any data but perhaps correcting an issue where the software is improperly calculating it. Which of course could lead to a lot of other issues such as excessive power drain because the phone thinks it needs to increase the power to the antenna instead of leaving it alone or reducing it.
For anyone having an issue with their signal, just keep a close eye on the radio threads. As soon as a new one gets leaked, they'll post it up and you can try it out.
And it can take a while, for example, my thunderbolt didn't have a good radio until on that was leaked Fall of this year. There is no rhyme or reason to it. some radios work better for some and not so good for others.
Obviously, if the phone isn't usable for his area, march is a long time to wait for an official update for verizon. But typically this stuff gets leaked out before an official push anyway.
Anywho, JC. Thanks for the links.
No major problems here
I've been running my phone for 2 days here without any significant battery issues; at least none more that I expected based on battery size and playing time. I've ordered the extended battery for insurance, but I fully expect that to do what I need. My only complaint at this point is signal strength vs. other VZ phones I've seen sitting right next to me. I have being disappointed here, am I alone?
Feel free to take a swing, but I don't think it'll fix your GN. I'll be awaiting the screen shot.
The AnandTech article is completely correct. I experienced a similar thing with my iPhone back in the day. This is a GOOGLE phone with as little Verizon interference as possible. Carriers want their users to think that they have GREAT reception everywhere they go. Those numbers are typically fudged, it's nothing new, I promise. As far as 4G drop off to 3G goes, most LTE phones suffer from this. Your T-Bolt is an older device. I'm sure you can't possibly have forgotten the number of LTE-related issues that device was plagued with early on. I remember a buddy of mine returning his because as cool as 4G was, 10% battery drain an hour on LTE while sleeping was just plain unacceptable. The Bionic has had issues. Most likely ALL VZW LTE phones are going to initially have issues the way that LTE and CDMA are basically taped together with very non-sticky painters tape.
I've seen connectivity issues with my MiFi related to specific locations that I'm in (I'm a heavy traveler with work). Any "fix" will be purely for display purposes. The day that release hits will be the day I'll be on XDA trying to research how block the update notification. The GN is currently displaying true and accurate reception strength and I'm sure it's driving Verizon up the friggin wall.
Ok, I'll stop giving everyone a hard time. But really, if the device sucks in your area, I'd return it and wait for a fix. In all seriousness, as you now confirmed from flashing modems, no modem is gonna make THAT big of a difference overall. Constructively, I'd wipe the device, log in with my Google Account, install zero apps, and see what it does. If my battery life sucked, I'd take it to the Verizon store and ask for a new battery. If that battery sucked (like draining dead 3 hours in sleep mode) I'd take the device back and exchange it.
It's not that I'm calling you a liar, it's that typically that kind of behavior is faulty hardware. Having it twice in a row is abnormal. In all fairness, my first iPhone had a bad battery and died in 2 hours (permanently). My second iPhone would overheat and lock up. My third iPhone was "fine" other than the fact that it was an iPhone.
Did it leave a bad taste in my mouth? Yeah, sure, but I still accept the fact that it was a weird chain of events and that the vast majority are perfectly fine. What I'm saying, nicely, is that both your first and your second device are not normal. It's not Google's, Verizon's or Samsung's fault...well, Samsung's for putting together a few bad units, but you know what I mean.
Haven't said 2nd device has bad battery life, just 4g drops. Hoping battery life will be better on this one.
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I definitely think something is wrong with battery life. I bought the extended battery and my phone is at 20% in 4 hours with screen brightness at zero and light texting and a lil fb. I feel like the regular battery lasted longer than the extended one I might test that next.
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I'm hoping for a clear honest assessment of the reliability of the signal and GPS on the E4GT. I use CoPilot a TON for navigation and absolutely need the GPS to get a reasonably fast lock and be both fast (in terms of true-to-location while moving) and accurate. I also need the phone to not be dropping calls (I left AT&T for this very reason).
The reason for my post is simple - I've done a ton of reading threads both here and other sites and at this point am a bit worried that my planned purchase of the dreamy SII may have a few flaws. I've read post-after-post about signal loss issues as well as posts about very unreliable GPS qualities. But many of these posts appear to have been from the September-to-December timeframe and potentially were fixed or were older hardware versions.
SOoooo... I'm hoping a few of you real-life current owners can quell the fear - I so covet that gorgeous screen and dual-core processor. But the fact of the matter is that my Evo 4G gets near instantaneous GPS lock and pretty much never drops a call. I don't want to buy the E4GT and end up hating it for the 2 features I need most.
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I came from an evo as well and the call quality isn't an issue but the GPS is non existent on the phone. To be fair some time it locks with a few minutes some times it won't get a lock for 30 minutes even when I use GPS tool box to clear data and download the agps assistance. I'm in So Cal, in the high desert where we only have 2 story buildings and a pretty clear view of the sky.
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Rats... bad GPS is a deal-breaker for me Maybe you're alone and I'll get nothing but rave reviews, right? Right?
I use GPS 4 to 5 times a day. You just need to turn GPS on. Then reboot. It sometimes takes a few minutes but always locks and always gets me where I want to go. Miner glitch in otherwise perfect phone
best gps for getting to a known address
Never had a dropped call yet. Use the gps multiple times a day and takes 1-20s to lock on, usually if it takes longer than that then something is wrong with the address. One notable problem is when using Google Navigate to search for say a McDonalds,it might give an address only relatively close and you'll need to look up the real address manually and have it go to that one instead. Also remember all phones are build a little different too so result can be way different.
The turn on-reboot-wait method on the GPS is straight up a deal breaker for me. With my "OG" Evo, I turn on GPS, and by the time CoPilot is loaded (typically about 10 seconds) the GPS is locked and ready to rock. With a newer and significantly more expensive phone, I refuse to be taking steps backward. I so badly wanted this phone but I think I'll have to wait... Or try the 3D.
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I so badly wanted this phone but I think I'll have to wait... Or try the 3D.
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This is one of those areas that really has no definitive answer. Luckily my GPS seems to work fine with pretty instant lock (knock on wood). I've seen reports of others that can't get locks unless they stand on their heads and rub their bellys, lol.
The best advice I can give is to actually get the phone and try it... if it doesn't work you have 14 days to return it and go with another one.
I have only seen problems with my GPS using google maps but if i use telenav or just Nav which also came on my phone its comes up w/i 5-10 seconds. Signal is good but not bad, i had the EVO 3d which was horrible, moto photon was excellent but i would put this signal right in the middle of them at "OK". I havent dropped very many calls but i do travel in rural areas so i cant down grade the signal for dead spots from Sprint
I have never really experienced GPS issues... I have only had one time where it took it about a minute to lock and route address.
I'd say bite the bullet and go for it. Seems like many who don't get good GPS trade their phones in for another and then they get good GPS. Seems like a quality control issue with samsung and GPS. You could always trade yours in if it's no good.
For me, my GPS locks take a while, unless I use GPS Status first, which locks consistently in < 10 sec.
If you decide to take the plunge and your ET4G has crap GPS, have them exchange it. I have a YouTube video that shows my first copy (which was aweful) and my second copy that to this day is fantastic.
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I appreciate all the input. Maybe I've been spoiled by the GPS quality on the OG Evo - which pretty much never takes longer than 10 seconds to lock. I don't have to do any silly reboots or gps status or clearing this or that... I turn on GPS, click the link for CoPilot - and by the time CoPilot loads gps has a lock. I've talked to enough people both online and locally to have the heebie jeebies about the E4GT.
Soooo... Right or wrong, what I decided to do is buy an Evo 3D on Craigslist to try that and hopefully either wait for a consistently good report on E4GT or a different phone with a more reliable GPS. That way I can still upgrade via contract if and when that time comes.
Again I thank you all for your input -
I never had a problem with gps on the et4g. It works perfect. When I saw buddy got gps working on cm7 I couldn't believe it bc it never worked for me when I had the evo...
I believe this device had better gps quality..
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I have a Galaxy Nexus on Sprint. I got it a couple days before the 4.0.4 update, and for those couple days, it worked great. Calls were coming and going, no browser issues, even the GPS sync'd up in seconds (I heard about the issues so I put it through some testing).
Fast forward a couple days and I get 4.0.4. First thing I notice is my web browsing slowing to a crawl, then eventually, just stops. I would click anything or go anywhere, and the progress bar will barely move and just stay put. This did not happen connected to WiFi, only 3G. I reboot my phone, and all is well for another few hours. I don't always use my phone at all times, so I don't know what causes it. I've had to reboot my phone twice yesterday because of this issue.
The next issue was the GPS. I was going somewhere with my wife and figured GPS'ing an address wouldn't be a problem. Well, after about 3 minutes I figured it was like the browsing issue and rebooted the phone hoping it would work again. Nope. We loaded the address up in my wife's Samsung Replenish and were on our way. The whole time my phone was trying to get a GPS lock after a fresh reboot. I even threw my phone on the dashboard so it had a clear view of the sky. The GPS never did sync after the 15 minutes or so it took to get there.
Today, I just discovered ANOTHER issue! I was talking on the phone to my doctor's office, when I heard a few clicks, then it hung up. I thought it was my doctor's office that tried to transfer me and goofed up. I try to call back and after a few rings, I get call cannot be completed as dialed. Still, I thought it was their end. I call again and the recording comes up and plays for about 5 seconds, then cuts out again. So I finally call on a landline and all was well. After I was off the phone, another call came in to my phone and I answered it after the second ring, and it cut out immediately. My wife tried calling later after that, with the same results. After calling again, I was able to hear her after about 5 seconds (I waited longer than that last time).
I'm coming from an EVO 3D (EVO 4G before that) and it had it's quirks, but at least I could hold a conversation and use the web browser reliably. Being basically a vanilla Google Android handset, I had high hopes that all my worries and woes would go away. Now? After being pro-Android since my Samsung Moment, I'm starting to think if I should get a damn iPhone. As much as I dislike Apple and what it stands for, at least their phones "just work".
Anybody have anything I can or should try? Should I just toss this phone on the shelf until Google figures out what they're doing with this handset?
sounds like sprint in your area is having problems.
i doubt it would matter if you had a iphone or not.
My wife isn't having ANY problems with her old PoS Replenish. A lot of friends of mine have Sprint and nobody is having problems that I've heard. As soon as I reboot it when I have browser problems, it works great again, until later.
Flash a custom rom.
Or if you don't want to have a custom rom then flash the factory image.
Maybe something went a bit arse-ways with the ota.
that shouldn't be happening, its not normal, 4.0.4 made the gnex better than it already was!
I did a factory reset and the first call I made was dropped. Guess I'll put a custom rom on it... I shouldn't have to though
might something with the radio if everyone else around is not having problems with sprint. factory reset is not the same as reflashing the 4.0.4 images. try and reflash the stock 4.0.4 images.
I'm on my second device, sprint swapped mine out because my data was just crawling, and I came from T-Mobile and they don't have fast 3G and it felt like I just switched to Dial-Up. They updated the device in-store to 4.0.4 and it was fine yesterday and this morning Pandora kept stopping and buffering. When I got to work I rebooted and ran a speed test and I was getting 1400-1700kbps and sub 400ms ping, which IMHO good considering I don't get great reception in our datacenter. Now 4 hours later I'm down to 100-330kbps and ping of 1000ms plus... even after reboot...
Probably Sprint-version-specific problem or hardware problem of your phone.
I use a GSM Nexus on tmobile and I know people that have the Verizon version. Everyone noticed significant improvement after going to 4.0.4.
I have had this phone a total of 3 days. I am coming from a iPhone 6 and previously had a Galaxy s4 and 5 before this.
This phone is annoying me. Its sad because its so beautiful and if it functioned normally, we wouldn't have a problem. Sometimes I want to throw this thing across the room.
Someone please help me with these issues. I rely on wifi and wifi calling.
Issue 1: When I am home and connected to wifi and wifi calling, my messages and alerts do not come to me when I leave the phone down for a while and it goes to sleep. I will pick my phone up and suddenly I will get all my text messages and alerts. Wifi sleeping is on NEVER already. My iPhone never had this issue, nor did the previous samsung phones.
Issue 2: When I leave my house, the internet connection does not work all the time. Today I left my house and drove somewhere and needed to use my gps. I had full LTE service, and it was telling me I am not connected. This also happened with my apps that also did not work because it was acting as if I was not connected. Issue was fixed with a phone restart. I do not want to restart my phone everytime I leave wifi.
Issue 3: MMS does not receive or send on wifi. I had this issue with prior galaxy, but I am shocked this still has not been adressed.
I also keep LTE voice OFF because like with other phones that have VOLTE, for some reason it just does not work that well. I am in NYC so its not a reception thing.
Those are my MAIN issues and would like some help with them.
The only other thing apple has samsung beat on is that with headphones connected, the apple blows away the samsung in terms of volume and sound quality. Its sad because I have expensive headphones that I would love to use all the time, so I guess I will have to buy an iPod touch when and if I sell the iPhone
Also the screen is very sensitive. I see myself accidentally opening apps when all I want to do is swipe across my menu screens. Not to mention it keeps telling me that hangouts stopped working, when I have it disabled already!
I am stock btw. Latest version, and battery has been good surprisingly. I do not want to root
Anyway, thanks everyone and please help and address the top two issues
Turning Wifi calling off will help drastically with those issues have you tried it without yet?
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Turning Wifi calling off will help drastically with those issues have you tried it without yet?
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As I said, I rely on wifi and wifi calling. I live in a basement apartment with zero service. Who would buy a phone that is almost 1000 dollars, and have to turn off services you pay for to make it work the right way? There is no way wifi could be turned off while I am home
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As I said, I rely on wifi and wifi calling. I live in a basement apartment with zero service. Who would buy a phone that is almost 1000 dollars, and have to turn off services you pay for to make it work the right way? There is no way wifi could be turned off while I am home
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Try doing a factory wipe, that usually solves issues like that.
Factory reset a brand new phone? Sweet.
Contact your carrier and request a signal booster, no charge to you. Then you can rely on data instead of wifi. Also start a complaint ticket for the phone, after a while they will send you to tmobile store and replace phone. Maybe it's buggy, maybe it's not.
But if you really have to throw it I'll come over and catch it.
Our phones must be total opposites because this is the best Samsung phone I have had, this makes # 4, Captivate, GS2, SG4 and now the S6e.
But you never know, visit the Tmobile store, remember that you have 14 days to be totally satisfied, that means replacement with another NEW phone if necessary.
Pp.
I know your pain. The fact that you're on t-mobile for wifi calling and this garbage device just not cutting it huh. I had almost all flagship samsung phone and this one right here is the most frustrating and expensive one of all. This device out of box is just terrible. Memory management, wifi issues, battery leak, FC left and right is just what I experience. Honestly this phone is making me understand why apple is better. Not because the people are stupid. But because they don't deal with half of the broken process we do here in Android. Yea I agree apple is like 2 years behind android but wtf. Now with Jump on demand I am thinking to make the switch to Apple or continue to toss my phone on the table when upset that the device once again is not responding. But lesson learned. Not jumping on new Android devices on release. This phone is a testament why.
Actually the phone works great right now. Maybe it needed a few days to become normal. Battery life is better then my iPhone 6. The text issue seems to ha e gone away. I still from time to time have the issue of leaving my house from WiFi and the phone acting like it has no connection, which requires a restart. I wonder what is causing that. Overall I'm happy with this device.
I can relate to you on T-Mobile LTE, and the screen. Although the reason the accidental app opening while swiping I think was happening because my hand was touching the side of the edge screen. Hold the phone differently or put a case on it and will notice this issue is decreased or gone completely.
There is still a screen issue with this phone and I've noticed it when typing out a fast message. Touch inputs do not register sometimes. That issue has some what been resolved with the case and my hand not being on the edge, but the issue is still there. My Note 3's screen is so much better in regards to accuracy and sensitivity.
For a $1000 phone, this thing should be close to flawless but it does have quite a few flaws, especially with Touchwiz and crappy lollipop. My main issue with TW is the way it manages memory. I just wanna throw this phone at the wall and stomp on it. I'll be in Chrome, go to reply to a text and make a note in Google keep, or whatever, come back to Chrome and it reloading the page I was just viewing a minute ago. So damn frustrating.
I haven't really been on XDA as much as I have in the past, but what ROMs can we flash for this phone because from the looks of it, the dev forum is a ghost town.
In regards to T-Mobile's crud network, just switch your phone into airplane mode, then off, a lot faster than rebooting the phone. This issue I've noticed only happens with LTE, what I do is just go to network settings and switch to WCDMA ONLY, which turns off LTE and connects to HSPA only, which is more reliable and FASTER in my area. Hope I helped someone out there cause I just typed this all on my S6 Edge.
Don't get me wrong, I love this damn phone and wouldn't trade it for any other phone, but better believe I'm gonna swap it out for the Note 5.
This phone has fantastic hardware and the worst software of any phone I've ever owned. I can make compressed twrp backups in like 10 minutes. The screen is the prettiest I've ever seen. The fingerprint reader is very good. The camera is damned fantastic. The software is a pile of dog ****. Samsung should be ashamed. They should be ashamed because I just bought a heavily discounted Fire Phone and loading CM11 on it because I just can't take this crappy phone any longer. I'll check back in on the next update to see if things have improved. Until then I'll be using a phone that cost around 4.5 times less and will somehow perform better.
Funny thing is I have to reboot it if that problem ever happens. Airplane mode doesn't reset it. Weird
Going to have to disagree politely with the OP on headphone output quality. I too have an iPhone 6 and while yes, it has more volume, they both have enough volume to drive proper headphones and I find the output on the S6 to be extremely clean and more lively than the iPhone 6 output. Check GSMArena's review and notice they say it has the cleanest output of any smartphone they've tested thanks to the onboard Wolfson DAC. To each their own with sound quality, but I find the S6 to be extremely good, especially after the 5.1.1 update.
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Going to have to disagree politely with the OP...
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Nonsense! That sort of behavior is not allowed here!
Yeah nothing wrong with disagreeing. In my opinion it's much lower then the iPhone 6. It went from being fun to listen to music on my vmoda m100s to me wishing I could make it louder on my gs6. Also affected the quality in my car via Bluetooth. Much lower output. I guess every one has their preference