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Anyone know if Google Wallet will be able to be ported over to the Galaxy Nexus? I'm going to miss being able to use my phone to pay for things, as I've grown somewhat accustomed to being able to do it. lol I love going to Dairy Queen, or Best Buy, or the drug store and just tapping my phone. I'd love to be able to do it on the Galaxy Nexus.
mysterioustko said:
Anyone know if Google Wallet will be able to be ported over to the Galaxy Nexus? I'd love to be able to do it on the Galaxy Nexus.
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Should not need to be ported, GNex has NFC
NFC is just a chip. You still need the software to use it. For example, I used Google Wallet on my Nexus S (which has a NFC chip). Without software to use the NFC chip with, it's useless. In other words, you have to have some sort of payment software on the phone in order to make use of the NFC as a form of payment.
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Should not need to be ported, GNex has NFC
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NFC is a chip. Google Wallet is an app that lets you use NFC for payments.
For example, only the Sprint Nexus S 4G officially has google wallet. The T-mo Nexus S doesn't. Neither do the SGSII varieties with NFC.
OP, I'd assume that once they have it working for ICS they'll make it happen with an update, but I'm not sure whats holding them from just launching with it.... then again they still haven't given it to the T-mo Nexus S lol so idk what's going on.
I'm really looking forward to Google Wallet too.
While there has been no official announcement, I don't ever think the Verizon version will ever see Google Wallet. Verizon has teamed up with T-Mobile and AT&T to put together Isis, a competitor to Google Wallet. Thats why we only see Google Wallet or Sprint.
martonikaj said:
NFC is a chip. Google Wallet is an app that lets you use NFC for payments.
For example, only the Sprint Nexus S 4G officially has google wallet. The T-mo Nexus S doesn't. Neither do the SGSII varieties with NFC.
OP, I'd assume that once they have it working for ICS they'll make it happen with an update, but I'm not sure whats holding them from just launching with it.... then again they still haven't given it to the T-mo Nexus S lol so idk what's going on.
I'm really looking forward to Google Wallet too.
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Well I have a T-mobile Nexus S that I use Google wallet on. Of course it isn't officially supported, but they ported it over from the Sprint Nexus S. I was just holding out hope that it might be possible to bring it to the Galaxy Nexus. lol of course this is just a hope. I'm not sure what libs or framework is needed for it to work.
mysterioustko said:
Well I have a T-mobile Nexus S that I use Google wallet on. Of course it isn't officially supported, but they ported it over from the Sprint Nexus S. I was just holding out hope that it might be possible to bring it to the Galaxy Nexus. lol of course this is just a hope. I'm not sure what libs or framework is needed for it to work.
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I get a little miffed every time I see a google wallet enabled payment system and I can't use it on my TMo nexus s 'officially'.
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[hfm] said:
I get a little miffed every time I see a google wallet enabled payment system and I can't use it on my TMo nexus s 'officially'.
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Yeah you would think that "officially" you'd be able to do it. Heck all Google would have to do is just put the app in the market to be downloaded and they wouldn't have to deal with the carriers at all (I think lol). But hey, gotta love the guys here at XDA, that got us around all that and brought it to the tmobile nexus. I'm just hoping it can be done on the Galaxy Nexus too.
Consider yourselves lucky that you can even use a hacked version on your phones.
What about us poor saps in Australia who can install the app and use it, but can't add any funds to it. I really don't understand why Google choose to operate like this.
Niksko said:
Consider yourselves lucky that you can even use a hacked version on your phones.
What about us poor saps in Australia who can install the app and use it, but can't add any funds to it. I really don't understand why Google choose to operate like this.
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Perhaps there are legal issues with it. I have no idea. I just wish a standard would be established already so that we can use it in our day to day. I love using my phone to pay for things! lol
I loved wallet on my tmobile nexus
It worked flawlessly
I was hoping for a gs2 port but that never took place.
Why wouldnt the flagship device for google have wallet pre installed ?
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Is wallet available outside the US? If not, then it may not be on the gsm version since it's not being sold in the states.
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fdm1 said:
Is wallet available outside the US? If not, then it may not be on the gsm version since it's not being sold in the states.
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It's a US-only service, yes. It's just an app so nothing is stopping them from supporting it on the GSM/HSPA version.
I thought the Google Wallet app just makes sure the credit card data travels a save way from the NFC sender to NFC receiver. I don't see how it'd be US-centric, when there's no mobile data involved in the transaction, since Google said that it doesn't require a data connection.
Also, I've read people in Germany using their German T-Mobile Nexus S to pay at the very few Paypass terminals in that country.
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I thought the Google Wallet app just makes sure the credit card data travels a save way from the NFC sender to NFC receiver. I don't see how it'd be US-centric, when there's no mobile data involved in the transaction, since Google said that it doesn't require a data connection.
Also, I've read people in Germany using their German T-Mobile Nexus S to pay at the very few Paypass terminals in that country.
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I meant it as in "the service is currently available in the US only". As far as I know Google has only officially launched the service in the US as of yet. That could just have been a marketing thing though. I'm not sure if it works fine if a seller outside the US just plugs in a comatible NFC-enabled terminal.
Actually, the relevant standard is called Paypass and used outside of the US. In Europe, there's various sort of cards being distributed by Visa, Mastercard and sorts. But apparently there's a RFID version of Paypass, and a superset that does NFC. The current distributed cards are RFID. But there appear to be NFC capable terminals in at least Germany.
From what I could gather, Google Wallet does Paypass NFC. It seems mostly a matter of getting it to install and run on a phone that's not the Spring Nexus S.
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Actually, the relevant standard is called Paypass and used outside of the US. In Europe, there's various sort of cards being distributed by Visa, Mastercard and sorts. But apparently there's a RFID version of Paypass, and a superset that does NFC. The current distributed cards are RFID. But there appear to be NFC capable terminals in at least Germany.
From what I could gather, Google Wallet does Paypass NFC. It seems mostly a matter of getting it to install and run on a phone that's not the Spring Nexus S.
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Interesting. So it's nothing specific needed on the merchant's side other than an NFC-compatible paypass terminal? How does the service work software wise? They could very well have limits on the cards you can use it with.
You might want to check this out.
sitnlow4life said:
I loved wallet on my tmobile nexus
It worked flawlessly
I was hoping for a gs2 port but that never took place.
Why wouldnt the flagship device for google have wallet pre installed ?
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This is the same thing that I was thinking. This is supposed to be the flagship device...you'd think it would already have Wallet on it...or at least have it available.
Here's a 17-yo Brit's contribution to this (and his first ever to the Android communication - received my first Android phone 3 days ago!):
Google Wallet can be "enticed" to run on the Galaxy Nexus. I'm still waiting for an attempt to test it, so we may find out if it works on Monday.
I used the "googlewalletfix_1.1R38v5_ICS_aok.zip" file (no credit to me - found it elsewhere on these forums) - I did the following (with MoDaCo custom ROM):
Flashed MoDaCo, flashed googlewalletfix, reboot to "proper"
Found Google Wallet wasn't installed
Open root terminal, cd to /mnt/sdcard/gw/
mount -o remount,rw /data/system
cp system/app/NfcGoogle.apk /system/app/NfcGoogle.apk # this is probably a terrible, terrible thing to do to your phone. Turn NFC off first and cross your fingers!
cp system/app/Wallet.apk /system/app/Wallet.apk
I saw some logcat entries telling me it was doing something with my newly positioned apk and lo-and-behold, Wallet was installed and would allow me to get a prepaid Google card!
I attached some pretty pictures taken using the Dalvik Debug Monitor.
lukegb said:
Here's a 17-yo Brit's contribution to this (and his first ever to the Android communication - received my first Android phone 3 days ago!):
Google Wallet can be "enticed" to run on the Galaxy Nexus. I'm still waiting for an attempt to test it, so we may find out if it works on Monday.
I used the "googlewalletfix_1.1R38v5_ICS_aok.zip" file (no credit to me - found it elsewhere on these forums) - I did the following (with MoDaCo custom ROM):
Flashed MoDaCo, flashed googlewalletfix, reboot to "proper"
Found Google Wallet wasn't installed
Open root terminal, cd to /mnt/sdcard/gw/
mount -o remount,rw /data/system
cp system/app/NfcGoogle.apk /system/app/NfcGoogle.apk # this is probably a terrible, terrible thing to do to your phone. Turn NFC off first and cross your fingers!
cp system/app/Wallet.apk /system/app/Wallet.apk
I saw some logcat entries telling me it was doing something with my newly positioned apk and lo-and-behold, Wallet was installed and would allow me to get a prepaid Google card!
I attached some pretty pictures taken using the Dalvik Debug Monitor.
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Great work! Anyone willing to try this to see if it works? I'd try it but I don't have my Galaxy Nexus yet (thanks to Handtec....). Great to see progress being made so quickly.
So if I buy a Nexus (off contract) and activate it on my VZW account, where will OTA updates come from? Direct from Google, yes?
It doesn't matter if you buy it off contract or contract. Verizon Galaxy Nexuses (CDMA/LTE) will come from Google directly but Verizon has to approve of the update before Google pushes it out.
Whereas, the GSM Galaxy Nexus (yakju models.. if its not yakju you can convert, search forum on how to do that) gets update from Google without approval from any other parties.
Yes. They don't come OTA from the carrier as most people believe. They come from Google. I know this because when I went to the Verizon store on launch day to get my Nexus, the reps let me play with my phone for 15 mins or so while they tended to another customer. They gave it to me new in the box with no SIM card and connected it to WiFi for me. After about 5-10 mins of me playing with it and setting it up over WiFi, the phone pulled the new 4.0.2 update and I installed it. It did this without being activated on the carrier, no SIM card installed and it was connected to a commercial ISP (not a Verizon MiFi AP) via WiFi.
Unless Verizon has some weird setup to push updated over the internet instead of the carrier, I'm pretty confident that the updates come from Google's servers and not Verizon. But yes, Verizon will have to approve the update before it gets pushed to their Nexus devices.
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It doesn't matter if you buy it off contract or contract. Verizon Galaxy Nexuses (CDMA/LTE) will come from Google directly but Verizon has to approve of the update before Google pushes it out.
Whereas, the GSM Galaxy Nexus (yakju models.. if its not yakju you can convert, search forum on how to do that) gets update from Google without approval from any other parties.
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But I couldn't use a "yakju" model on Verizon, right?
Thanks!
dwhsix said:
But I couldn't use a "yakju" model on Verizon, right?
Thanks!
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No you can't. Yakju is the GSM build.
The Verizon CDMA build is Mysid.
They are NOT interchangeable.
T4rd said:
Yes. They don't come OTA from the carrier as most people believe. They come from Google. I know this because when I went to the Verizon store on launch day to get my Nexus, the reps let me play with my phone for 15 mins or so while they tended to another customer. They gave it to me new in the box with no SIM card and connected it to WiFi for me. After about 5-10 mins of me playing with it and setting it up over WiFi, the phone pulled the new 4.0.2 update and I installed it. It did this without being activated on the carrier, no SIM card installed and it was connected to a commercial ISP (not a Verizon MiFi AP) via WiFi.
Unless Verizon has some weird setup to push updated over the internet instead of the carrier, I'm pretty confident that the updates come from Google's servers and not Verizon. But yes, Verizon will have to approve the update before it gets pushed to their Nexus devices.
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I think this app would disagree with you.
dwhsix said:
But I couldn't use a "yakju" model on Verizon, right?
Thanks!
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No. That refers to GSM models.
WiredPirate said:
I think this app would disagree with you.
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I don't think that app could have agreed with me more, lol. Read my post again .
Does anyone know for sure if we can use Google Wallet with our One X and if not why not? I'm looking for a solid answer, not speculation if anyone knows for sure. Thanks a lot in advance!
It all depends on your carrier. Even if your unlocked. I'm using an international version on US's AT&T. I can download google wallet, but as soon as I open it tells me my country/carrier is not supported at this time.
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Willieumm said:
Does anyone know for sure if we can use Google Wallet with our One X and if not why not? I'm looking for a solid answer, not speculation if anyone knows for sure. Thanks a lot in advance!
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No. You can download it from the Market but when you open it you get "Google Wallet has not yet been certified in your country or on your device/carrier." I'm hoping it's not the former because it's picking the phone up as being from the UK. If it's the latter I'm hoping that when AT&T launches the One X it'll be Google Wallet certified. That may not benefit us though because the AT&T phone will have a different model number. Bottom line, don't buy the international One X if Google Wallet is one of your hot buttons.
Unlikely AT&T will ever allow this as I believe all US carriers are collaborating on using an alternative to Google Wallet. The only thing I can think of is to edit build.prop to spoof a UK carrier.
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Well I'm on AT&T as well and when I flashed the google wallet .apk on my Galaxy Nexus I had no problems using it. It wasn't a download from the market, it was a cwm flashable zip and I was able to use it just fine on AT&T. Could this not be done with our One X just the same?
if not, then everyone should get back $50+ on their phones. even descriptions on store sites mention NFC and Google Wallet.
Willieumm said:
Well I'm on AT&T as well and when I flashed the google wallet .apk on my Galaxy Nexus I had no problems using it. It wasn't a download from the market, it was a cwm flashable zip and I was able to use it just fine on AT&T. Could this not be done with our One X just the same?
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AT&T supports Google wallet on the GN and NS.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/0...still-nothing-for-the-lte-variant-on-verizon/
brent8577 said:
if not, then everyone should get back $50+ on their phones. even descriptions on store sites mention NFC and Google Wallet.
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Neither HTC or Google can do anything if AT&T doesn't add the device to their supported list. The GN and NS are designed to be used on multiple carriers while AT&T has their own version of the One X(L). You can root your phone to get Google Wallet working but I advice against it as it's way too easy for your financial info to be hacked.
BarryH_GEG said:
Neither HTC or Google can do anything if AT&T doesn't add the device to their supported list. The GN and NS are designed to be used on multiple carriers while AT&T has their own version of the One X(L). You can root your phone to get Google Wallet working but I advice against it as it's way too easy for your financial info to be hacked.
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I'm not too sure about that. The application only seems to work on the Nexus devices; even a rooted and unlocked One X with Market Enabler will receive the same error about device compatibility. Sounds to me like Google will have to update Wallet before One X owners can use it.
I read the other day that google has suspend Google Wallet for now as it's so easy to hack in to anyone's account...
http://pymnts.com/briefing-room/mob...oogle-Wallet-Prepaid-Capabilities-After-Hack/
beanbean50 said:
I read the other day that google has suspend Google Wallet for now as it's so easy to hack in to anyone's account...
http://pymnts.com/briefing-room/mob...oogle-Wallet-Prepaid-Capabilities-After-Hack/
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That is an old article. Wallet has received a few updates since then and all is working fine again. Wallet itself was never suspended either. The ability to add new Google prepaid cards was turned off for a short time, and the ability to re-add existing Google prepaid cards that had been removed was disabled for a few weeks after that.
If you were an existing wallet user prior to all the hype you were completely unaffected during that entire time so long as you did not remove your existing prepaid card from with the app itself or wipe/reset your device etc.
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That is an old article. Wallet has received a few updates since then and all is working fine again. Wallet itself was never suspended either. The ability to add new Google prepaid cards was turned off for a short time, and the ability to re-add existing Google prepaid cards that had been removed was disabled for a few weeks after that.
If you were an existing wallet user prior to all the hype you were completely unaffected during that entire time so long as you did not remove your existing prepaid card from with the app itself or wipe/reset your device etc.
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I installed Google Wallet on an AT&T One X in store and it had the same error about being unsupported. FYI
mobilehavoc said:
I installed Google Wallet on an AT&T One X in store and it had the same error about being unsupported. FYI
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Well, that sucks. They could be supporting the Nexi under pressure/cajoling from Citibank/MasterCard/Google. Do any of the phones they sell directly have NFC and support Google Wallet? Being optimistic the One X launch was pushed up and maybe their just not ready yet. There's still no telling if the international version will work because it has a different network ID. Sigh.
if there is some hacked version that works, post it here because i will use it. i don't care if it's not secure. i don't keep money in my bank account for long and i have nothing to hide. ;p
BarryH_GEG said:
Well, that sucks. They could be supporting the Nexi under pressure/cajoling from Citibank/MasterCard/Google. Do any of the phones they sell directly have NFC and support Google Wallet? Being optimistic the One X launch was pushed up and maybe their just not ready yet. There's still no telling if the international version will work because it has a different network ID. Sigh.
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FWIW, I think it uses Market to determine carrier and I'm guessing build.prop possibly for device. I'm sure there's a way to get it to work especially since AT&T is officially supports so it's just the device you have to get over.
It worked on my Galaxy nexus with market enabler. It doesn't with my one X...
Is there any way to fool the phone in to thinking it's a galaxy nexus?
bufodill said:
It worked on my Galaxy nexus with market enabler. It doesn't with my one X...
Is there any way to fool the phone in to thinking it's a galaxy nexus?
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Pretty sure you can fake it in build.prop
mobilehavoc said:
Pretty sure you can fake it in build.prop
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So... anyone wanna try?
Wouldn't it be reasonable to believe that the wallet app would accept it if it believes it runs on a galaxy nexus on t-mobile us?
bufodill said:
So... anyone wanna try?
Wouldn't it be reasonable to believe that the wallet app would accept it if it believes it runs on a galaxy nexus on t-mobile us?
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How? I tried changing my carrier to t-mobile us with market enabler and had no luck.
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it's my guess that after the security flap, google has really beefed up the barriers for wallet. i've read that google is working on whatever has to be done to jump through the hoops in the eu to enable wallet, so if that happens things might change. or maybe if an agreement is reached with at&t, for example, to enable wallet on its one x's that would change accessibility. otherwise everything i've read says no joy on this right now.
Willieumm said:
How? I tried changing my carrier to t-mobile us with market enabler and had no luck.
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The point was trying to change phone id to galaxy nexus, if it's possible.
Changing carrier ID on the galaxy nexus is confirmed to work, also outside of the states.
I haven't seen this topic show up on this forum and I had a couple of questions so...... im very interested to know what you guys think of AT&T's upcoming NFC program ISIS? Also does anyone know when we can expect it to be available?
AFAIK its launched in two area atm like a pilot program i believe on of the areas is texas the other then name escapes me.
DJSYNTHVIRUS said:
AFAIK its launched in two area atm like a pilot program i believe on of the areas is texas the other then name escapes me.
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I didn't know that thanks! Im hoping it will be useful.
I just find it stupid that AT&T is dumping Google Wallet in favor of a system that isn't even ready yet.
Way to give us NFC without it really being useful. (I mean, there's Android Beam, which is cool, but not really useful...)
Xodium said:
I just find it stupid that AT&T is dumping Google Wallet in favor of a system that isn't even ready yet.
Way to give us NFC without it really being useful. (I mean, there's Android Beam, which is cool, but not really useful...)
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Classic AT&T fail...
It really isn't a fail on AT&T's part. Google Wallet isn't doing that fantastic, especially with how few companies are accepting it. Yea, ISIS isn't ready to go yet, however I live in SLC, one of the main areas that ISIS will be launching at in the summer, and at least 1 in 3 stores has already signed on and started preparing for the switch, UTA (the transit system out here) has also signed on and are making adjustments. Once ISIS is out, it will have a much stronger chance of doing well right out of the gate compared to Google Wallet.
Yes, it required a delay for AT&T users before we get to use NFC for payments, however choosing to back a program that now has a strong backing from companies as well as banks/credit card providers, ISIS really was a good decision.
Sure they could have put their eggs in both baskets, but that probably wouldn't have worked out too well, after all, one of the two would have tried to force them into one corner or the other.
It is not just AT&T. The whole ISIS initiative is a joint venture between AT&T, T-mobile, and Verizon. That is why when the Google Wallet first launched it could only be used on the Samsung Galaxy Nexus from Sprint.
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It really isn't a fail on AT&T's part. Google Wallet isn't doing that fantastic, especially with how few companies are accepting it. Yea, ISIS isn't ready to go yet, however I live in SLC, one of the main areas that ISIS will be launching at in the summer, and at least 1 in 3 stores has already signed on and started preparing for the switch, UTA (the transit system out here) has also signed on and are making adjustments. Once ISIS is out, it will have a much stronger chance of doing well right out of the gate compared to Google Wallet.
Yes, it required a delay for AT&T users before we get to use NFC for payments, however choosing to back a program that now has a strong backing from companies as well as banks/credit card providers, ISIS really was a good decision.
Sure they could have put their eggs in both baskets, but that probably wouldn't have worked out too well, after all, one of the two would have tried to force them into one corner or the other.
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Yes, this is also true. People are blaming just their networks, but Google is at fault here too. They have been very slow in everything that relates to Google Wallet. Getting retailer support isn't actually a problem for Wallet, since it uses PayPass which is already quite popular. But getting more support for phones, especially internationally, is very important, and Google have failed badly at this.
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Yes, this is also true. People are blaming just their networks, but Google is at fault here too. They have been very slow in everything that relates to Google Wallet. Getting retailer support isn't actually a problem for Wallet, since it uses PayPass which is already quite popular. But getting more support for phones, especially internationally, is very important, and Google have failed badly at this.
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Not to mention the fact that Google didn't really pursue adding more carriers early on. First they wanted extensive testing to insure it was ready for a large scale launch. Unfortunately by the time they were ready to bring in everyone else, T-Mobile, Verizon and AT&T had decided not to wait but instead to help start up something new. Honestly, I'm excited because ISIS looks very promising.
Blaming AT&T, or for that matter any carrier other than Sprint, or not waiting on Google to let them in on G-Wallet is kinda pointless, after all no business wants to wait, they want to get in on the action and try to beat the competition.
Google is just piggy back ridding off of PayPass. I'm positive Google Wallet will be accepted by every NFC payment system.
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It is not just AT&T. The whole ISIS initiative is a joint venture between AT&T, T-mobile, and Verizon. That is why when the Google Wallet first launched it could only be used on the Samsung Galaxy Nexus from Sprint.
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A slight correction - Google Wallet launched on the Nexus S 4G on Sprint in ~September 2011 via an OTA.
There are a few things to understand about the release and development of an application like this.
1) To release an application you have to have it available to devices.
- AT&T, Verizon, and TMobile have basically stopped the release of this app by preventing it from being installed on over 80% of the phones in the US.
2) Wallet is just as good as any other app out there, and could be better with a large company like Google behind it.
- Knowing that they would not be able to install on the majority of phones, development probably got put on the back burner.
3) AT&T, Verizon and TMobile in may ways have jointly killed the Wallet project since Google decided not to go to court to fight for the app to be released on their networks.
4) The Wallet application CAN run on any network, it is just software.
5) In no way is Google responsible for the success or lack of it with Wallet. In this case, they tried to release it with the intention of having it on all Nexus phones and the carriers stopped it.
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5) In no way is Google responsible for the success or lack of it with Wallet. In this case, they tried to release it with the intention of having it on all Nexus phones and the carriers stopped it.
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Google are not obliged to block Wallet from showing up in the Play Store for certain networks. Like you said, Wallet will work on any network.
Apple would have no trouble installing their own Wallet solution, regardless of the networks' reluctance. It's because Google are '*****es' to the networks - they do whatever the networks tell them to. That's why their own 'pure' Google devices like the Verizon Nexus have bloat and branding on them. That's never been the case with Apple. Apple puts their foot down, and the networks have no choice but to comply with Apple. It's not the same for Google. They're pushovers.
Google could of course release Wallet in the European markets, where they already have money handling licences for the web version of Google Wallet and where consumers aren't so heavily reliant on networks when purchasing phones. But they haven't done this.
So, yes, the eventual failure of Google Wallet will be down to Google.
First of i know the international version works on AT&T but Why is the galaxy nexus not offered from at&t because at&t runs off GSM network which is what the international galaxy nexus runs on if I'm not mistaken so
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mkeller96 said:
First of i know the international version works on AT&T but Why is the galaxy nexus not offered from at&t because at&t runs off GSM network which is what the international galaxy nexus runs on if I'm not mistaken so
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How on earth would a carrier branded, carrier updated, carrier bloated version of the Galaxy Nexus compete with the unlocked, GSM version that will work on Tmo OR Att?
Sprint and Verizon are cdma carriers who's contracted users cant use a GSM device, which is why they have their own versions.
mkeller96 said:
First of i know the international version works on AT&T but Why is the galaxy nexus not offered from at&t because at&t runs off GSM network which is what the international galaxy nexus runs on if I'm not mistaken so
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https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=galaxy_nexus_hspa
Because this is better.
WHY would you ever want AT&T to offer this device???
$350 off contract is much better than paying $650 off contract or $199-$299 on contract at the carrier. It'd have carrier bloat, logos, locked down firmware (blocked tethering!) and slow updates.
If you seriously want an AT&T branded Nexus, you clearly don't get it...
jordanishere said:
How on earth would a carrier branded, carrier updated, carrier bloated version of the Galaxy Nexus compete with the unlocked, GSM version that will work on Tmo OR Att?
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lol 3 apk's of "bloat".
/me strokes his 32gb unlimited lte nexus
good day.
Why does att do half the stupid crap they do? No one can answer that question. Since Google is selling it unlocked so cheap at $350 that's the deal of the century so just buy thru Google.
chopper the dog said:
lol 3 apk's of "bloat".
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How do you know how many apps AT&T would put on their version given the opportunity to sell it?
martonikaj said:
How do you know how many apps AT&T would put on their version given the opportunity to sell it?
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It was just in reference to his comparison towards the cdma variants and their bloat. Not what at&t would add.
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chopper the dog said:
It was just in reference to his comparison towards the cdma variants and their bloat. Not what at&t would add.
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There was no reference at all to Verizon.
Ummm...I'm going to assume since Apple and att pretty much go hand in hand and apple is trying to BAN the gnex with the current patent fight..
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JediNinjafication said:
Ummm...I'm going to assume since Apple and att pretty much go hand in hand and apple is trying to BAN the gnex with the current patent fight..
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Well, AT&T still sells lots of Android phones. Apple can't tell AT&T what phones to buy, that's the pinnacle of antitrust.
martonikaj said:
Well, AT&T still sells lots of Android phones. Apple can't tell AT&T what phones to buy, that's the pinnacle of antitrust.
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they do sell other Android devices, but NOT the ones Apple is actively going after. And while Apple can't tell them what they can and cannot sell, I think it would be more of a conflict of interest. Yes...iphone has been released to other carriers but at one time att had exclusive rights to the device. Plus, like i said..Apple and att pretty much go hand in hand. while i have never liked Apple, it's good business sense for att. Kind of don't bite the hand that feeds/don't rock the boat?
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That and none of the Android phones att has is technically in direct competition with the iphone. Am assuming there is some sort of clause in the contact with them
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JediNinjafication said:
they do sell other Android devices, but NOT the ones Apple is actively going after. And while Apple can't tell them what they can and cannot sell, I think it would be more of a conflict of interest. Yes...iphone has been released to other carriers but at one time att had exclusive rights to the device. Plus, like i said..Apple and att pretty much go hand in hand. while i have never liked Apple, it's good business sense for att. Kind of don't bite the hand that feeds/don't rock the boat?
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They don't go hand in hand anymore... Apple sells the iPhone on AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, and another 5 regional / MVNO carriers in the USA now. Apple doesn't care anymore, they just wanna sell phones. It's a relationship of dependence between Apple and AT&T, simply out of necessity because Apple wants the access to the huge bucket of customers AT&T has, and AT&T just wants money.
JediNinjafication said:
That and none of the Android phones att has is technically in direct competition with the iphone. Am assuming there is some sort of clause in the contact with them
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How about the HTC One X, Motorola Atrix HD, Samsung Galaxy Note or Galaxy SIII? Not sure what you're talking about. AT&T carries all of the headline Android devices.
jordanishere said:
How on earth would a carrier branded, carrier updated, carrier bloated version of the Galaxy Nexus compete with the unlocked, GSM version that will work on Tmo OR Att?
Sprint and Verizon are cdma carriers who's contracted users cant use a GSM device, which is why they have their own versions.
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There is a gsm gnex. And how does it compete? Try coverage for one! And two..it's a GOOGLE phone..no carrier bloat allowed
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martonikaj said:
WHY would you ever want AT&T to offer this device???
$350 off contract is much better than paying $650 off contract or $199-$299 on contract at the carrier. It'd have carrier bloat, logos, locked down firmware (blocked tethering!) and slow updates.
If you seriously want an AT&T branded Nexus, you clearly don't get it...
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clearly you don't get the point of a NEXUS device. Nexus is pure Google..no carrier modification. And i don't have a locked tether. Sweet..gsm faster...where you can pick up the signal. And i wouldn't give att a single penny for anything. Someone asked why att didn't have it. I have my opinion
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JediNinjafication said:
There is a gsm gnex. And how does it compete? Try coverage for one! And two..it's a GOOGLE phone..no carrier bloat allowed
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I get great coverage in my gsm version granted the Verizon version might get some better download speeds but as far as everyday use there is not much difference my friend has a Verizon one and real world difference, he pays more s month to have one
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dislplin01 said:
I get great coverage in my gsm version granted the Verizon version might get some better download speeds but as far as everyday use there is not much difference my friend has a Verizon one and real world difference, he pays more s month to have one
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I'm Sprint myself and have no complaints
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JediNinjafication said:
clearly you don't get the point of a NEXUS device. Nexus is pure Google..no carrier modification. And i don't have a locked tether. Sweet..gsm faster...where you can pick up the signal. And i wouldn't give att a single penny for anything. Someone asked why att didn't have it. I have my opinion
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Did you even read my post that you quoted? You're not making any sense at all.
You international guys are taking this question to a place it wasn't meant to go. The OP is just wondering why AT&T isn't offering it subsidized on contract..not asking for an AT&T branded and bloated GNex. Don't say this isn't possible, because both AT&T and T-mobile offered the Nexus S unbranded. Don't confuse Verizon's BS with the GSM carriers...