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What is the point of a nandroid backup?
Ive flashed many roms since coming here, and have backed up my Nandroid a few times, but I have no clue what the backups are to be used for.
Am I right in assuming that its a backup of all the internal memory? Such that say I was on Rom Y, I nandroid backup, then full wipe and flash Rom Z, if Z sucks I can just flash Y, and restore the backup and my phone is completely back to where it was before the process? Is that the purpose?
Ive finally gotten tired of setting up my homescreens/widgets/programs everytime I flash a new rom. So I wondered if Nandroid backups could help alleviate some of that.
Thanks.
massivebasset said:
What is the point of a nandroid backup?
Ive flashed many roms since coming here, and have backed up my Nandroid a few times, but I have no clue what the backups are to be used for.
Am I right in assuming that its a backup of all the internal memory? Such that say I was on Rom Y, I nandroid backup, then full wipe and flash Rom Z, if Z sucks I can just flash Y, and restore the backup and my phone is completely back to where it was before the process? Is that the purpose?
Ive finally gotten tired of setting up my homescreens/widgets/programs everytime I flash a new rom. So I wondered if Nandroid backups could help alleviate some of that.
Thanks.
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with the current lack of brain power to make a good joke at your topic line about young attractive nandroid backups, ill give you a straight answer.
Yes. your assumption on what they do is correct. however you cant use them to backup homescreen stuffs and move them to a new rom.
im not sure what you can use for that but theres probably something out there for that.
nenn said:
with the current lack of brain power to make a good joke at your topic line about young attractive nandroid backups, ill give you a straight answer.
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Thats why I post my grammatically terrible questions in the mornings!
Thanks for the response, I assumed a backup for Y wouldnt work for Z, but if it at least can get me back to Y seamlessly, thats something.
nenn said:
im not sure what you can use for that but theres probably something out there for that.
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I use LauncherPro, which has a backup, titanium for programs, and apps organizer to make it as painless as possible, but theres still some annoyance in getting it all perfect (Widgets for instance dont really back up with Launcher Pro).
the other purpose is as a fail safe. if something goes majorly wrong. you have a stable safe back up that will get you running again.
MyBackup from the market has the ability to save home screen settings. Combined with Titanium Backup, it is a great way to move apps and data to new ROMs. Just be sure to not restore system settings as that will screw up your new ROM.
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What is best way make backup Messages, settings, App etc...
zeus34 said:
What is best way make backup Messages, settings, App etc...
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Use clockworkmod to do a backup, backs up the entire phone or titanium backup to backup just apps and data.
For just SMS I use WaveSecure.
alexluckett said:
Use clockworkmod to do a backup, backs up the entire phone or titanium backup to backup just apps and data.
For just SMS I use WaveSecure.
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Any of these requires root?
I reckon, clockwork needs root.
Titanium Backup needs root too, fyi
and, so, as you require root for both, have clockworkmod create a nandroid backup...
the created backup is stored on your sd card, make sure you copy it to another location as well (in case your sd card gets crippled )
Seems like both app needs root.
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iAltair said:
Seems like both app needs root.
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nope, it does not seem like....
they DO require root...
also, quick question for this thread:
if i create a nandroid backup, do i still need to worry about my apps completely working (and therefore should also create a Ti backup)?
kebong said:
also, quick question for this thread:
if i create a nandroid backup, do i still need to worry about my apps completely working (and therefore should also create a Ti backup)?
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Nandroid backup is indispensable if everything goes tits up, so I make one prior to flashing a new ROM, at least then I know worst case scenario I can get back to where I am now. I use Ti to restore apps and, more importantly, their associated data after doing a clean install of a ROM, also I can schedule Nandroid to regularly backup apps and data for me
Hi guys .. I have had my Desire Z for a little while and I want to play around with ROMs now ... I am looking for a way to make a *full* backup of the phone .. That means the OS itself, all its settings (alarms, personalization stuff, stored passwords, installed apps, etc ..), all application and personal data (both on ROM and SD card), etc ...
That is, one backup that when restored, returns the complete phone including all its settings and data to the state the phone was in when the backup was created ..
Now there are two Market tools I've found that claim to do something similar: My Backup Pro and Titanium Backup, and I also hear that ClockWorkMod can create backups ...
But I don't know if these tools backup *everything* like I want, so any advice given here would be really appreciated ..
Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
When you are rooted you can use titanium backup to back up all your apps, data & settings. Then when you install a new ROM you can easily restore everything.
The back up you do in CWM is called a nandroid and this backs up your entire ROM including apps, data & settings. as soon as you are rooted you will want to do this so you have a back up of your stock ROM incase anything goes wrong and you need to get your stock ROM easily.
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cjward23 said:
Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
When you are rooted you can use titanium backup to back up all your apps, data & settings. Then when you install a new ROM you can easily restore everything.
The back up you do in CWM is called a nandroid and this backs up your entire ROM including apps, data & settings. as soon as you are rooted you will want to do this so you have a back up of your stock ROM incase anything goes wrong and you need to get your stock ROM easily.
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Ok thanks for that advice ...
So assuming my phone is rooted (it isn't now but I will do it once this issue is resolved), which method is better for me which backs up *everything* (stock OS, personal data, app data, media, settings, SD card stuff, etc ..) ? CWM or Titanium Backup ?
I have heard that CWM doesn't backup everything .. that it leaves some stuff out (not exactly sure what this is though) .. :/
ahmadka said:
Ok thanks for that advice ...
So assuming my phone is rooted (it isn't now but I will do it once this issue is resolved), which method is better for me which backs up *everything* (stock OS, personal data, app data, media, settings, SD card stuff, etc ..) ? CWM or Titanium Backup ?
I have heard that CWM doesn't backup everything .. that it leaves some stuff out (not exactly sure what this is though) .. :/
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never ever ever use TiBU for backing up anything other than downloaded apps. (imo, some people may disagree, but I have never had success with TiBU outside of saving a few downloaded apps... and even then it seems to be hit or miss for me)
CWM is the best option for creating a full backup. when you restore a nandroid backup, it's like going back in time... everything is exactly as it was when that backup was created.
pmcqueen said:
never ever ever use TiBU for backing up anything other than downloaded apps. (imo, some people may disagree, but I have never had success with TiBU outside of saving a few downloaded apps... and even then it seems to be hit or miss for me)
CWM is the best option for creating a full backup. when you restore a nandroid backup, it's like going back in time... everything is exactly as it was when that backup was created.
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Hmm ... Are you absolutely sure that CWM backs up everything ? That is, the stock ROM, all my android's settings, sms, contacts, emails, list of apps installed, app data, my personal data (photos, videos, music, documents, etc ..) ? And does it also backup data from both the built-in memory and stuff on the SD card ?
Reason why I ask this is because this afternoon I came across a thread (can't seem to find it now) where somebody said CWM leaves some stuff out in backing up and then somebody else suggested using Titanium Backup ...
So I want to proceed with CWM only if you're dead sure that it backs up *everyyyyyythinggggg* ...
Btw, I don't mean to question to knowledge, I just want to be sure, thats all
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Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
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+1
Root + Titanium Backup.
How can we back up the stock rom?? Cwm will not be present on the stock rom. So how?
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mmb_z said:
+1
Root + Titanium Backup.
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Conflicting statements people .. :/
CWM or titanium backup ?
Btw, does titanium backup also backup the stock OS/ROM ?
vikraam said:
How can we back up the stock rom?? Cwm will not be present on the stock rom. So how?
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When you root you will still be using your stock ROM, you then back up your stock rooted ROM. There is no way to back up an unrooted ROM.
Unrooted stock ROM's are available in the form of an official RUU most of which you will find if you read the stickies in the development section of the forums.
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ahmadka said:
Conflicting statements people .. :/
CWM or titanium backup ?
Btw, does titanium backup also backup the stock OS/ROM ?
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Titanium will not back up the os, you can use to back up all of the system apps and data. But as a previous poster said this is not good a good idea as restoring them tends to be problematic.
And don't worry about your sdcard flashing roms will not affect any data on your sdcard.
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mmb_z said:
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Root + Titanium Backup.
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ahmadka said:
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the only thing you could theoretically lose are photos, videos, etc that are stored on the sdcard... but this would only happen if you deleted/formatted the sd card. otherwise, they just move with you from rom to rom.
I don't know what people think titanium backup is for, but seriously... it's not as magnificent as it is commonly made out to be. its only real use is restoring stuff from /data (ie apps and settings). even then, it is known to be problematic. I have used it in the past but I finally got sick of it when I realized that half of the time I used it to backup/restore it ended up doing more harm than good.
CWM is the best option for making a full backup of EVERYTHING on your phone (remember, your sd card is not part of your phone... it doesn't get backed up/restored via CWM). restoring a CWM backup will revert your phone to the exact state it was in at the time of the backup.
I used titanium backup and it worked for everything. Even backed the stuff up to my PC.
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hardy1906 said:
I used titanium backup and it worked for everything. Even backed the stuff up to my PC.
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that's awesome, but you will encounter problems with Ti backup if you try to restore anything from /system after installing a new rom. if you've come from one aosp rom to another, you might get lucky and not have any trouble (especially if they are a similar flavor of aosp), but if you try to restore anything from a sense rom's /system to an aosp rom's /system, or vice versa, you're in for a lot of force closing and general bass-ackwardness.
op: the BEST way is a nandroid backup. if you try and restore titanium backup apps and settings over whichever rom you've installed, you can almost guarantee something will be broken... just do it the right way and do a nandroid backup via CWM and save yourself the trouble.
Guys I forgot to mention, my phone is NOT currently rooted (Yes I realize I should have mentioned this in the first post) .. so what can I use now to backup everything like I want ?
ahmadka said:
Guys I forgot to mention, my phone is NOT currently rooted (Yes I realize I should have mentioned this in the first post) .. so what can I use now to backup everything like I want ?
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Not much really, there are apps available to back up sms and contacts will be synced to Google.
todo backup by easeus...free too. works great
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1) Root.
2) Install CWM Recovery.
3) Nandroid.
There's your backup.
How do you guys do backups when you try out different roms? Am I bound to lose scores and settings in games and apps every time i change rom?
(sorry for what may be a stupid question, but i understood the answers given earlier that making a Nandroid recovery will also recover the rom at the time of the backup not just apps and settings)
glx-rider said:
How do you guys do backups when you try out different roms? Am I bound to lose scores and settings in games and apps every time i change rom?
(sorry for what may be a stupid question, but i understood the answers given earlier that making a Nandroid recovery will also recover the rom at the time of the backup not just apps and settings)
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A nandroid back does a complete back of system, apps, data, and settings. When you restore a nandroid your phone will be restored to the exact point it was at before you preformed the nandroid.
To back up apps and data, you will need to use an app like titanium backup. you then can restore apps and data, including game save and scores after you flash a new rom.
But it is not advised to back up and restore system data and settings with titanium back up
before i rooted i took backups whit MyBackup.
after you get rooted, take Clean CWM backup of your phone.
when you are up and running on a custom rom, take CWM backup, and back up downloaded apps whit Titanium backup.
If you are going from sense rom to sense rom, you dont necessaryli need to wipe your data and apps, so you don't have to restore anything. If you are going for completely different rom, you need wipe everything, after you are running in new rom, you cant get just the apps from cwm backup, it would restore your old rom too, so now restore your apps and stuff from TI backups. and if you don't like the new rom, use CWM backup to go back to your last rom.
so you need both backups cwm and Ti..
and as said before app backups might cause some problems when going from rom to rom
I have been jumping between different MIUI roms, they are basically the same so i haven't wiped anything(except dalvik cache) when flashing new rom, so everything will stay the way they are, and no ned to restore anything, if that's the case.
What comes to the stuff on SDcard, it will be just fine, if you want to back up your pics/music/vids, etc from your sdcard, just copy them to your computer.
I need help today with Restoring all my apps and widgets from backup after I Flashed new rom. can someone point me to the right direction.
Thank you,
Droidrookie said:
I need help today with Restoring all my apps and widgets from backup after I Flashed new rom. can someone point me to the right direction.
Thank you,
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Titanium Backup
Droidrookie said:
I need help today with Restoring all my apps and widgets from backup after I Flashed new rom. can someone point me to the right direction.
Thank you,
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If you have a google account,google will restore your apps during set-up,but not the settings.Like the guy above said,Titanium Backup does the trick.
Diablo67 said:
If you have a google account,google will restore your apps during set-up,but not the settings.Like the guy above said,Titanium Backup does the trick.
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I downloaded Titanium back up and I am unable to locate the app. I saw it in my Application, but can't access to it.
Droidrookie said:
I downloaded Titanium back up and I am unable to locate the app. I saw it in my Application, but can't access to it.
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What rom are you running?and recovery?
Diablo67 said:
What rom are you running?and recovery?
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I am still running stock 2.2 rooted. and ClockWorkMod recovery.
Droidrookie said:
I am still running stock 2.2 rooted. and ClockWorkMod recovery.
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Thats strange,all i can tell you is update your recovery and you might need to do a full wipe and partition your sd card and start over,make sure you use Darktremors Apps2sd tweak.
Diablo67 said:
Thats strange,all i can tell you is update your recovery and you might need to do a full wipe and partition your sd card and start over,make sure you use Darktremors Apps2sd tweak.
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WHen I run the emulator on it said Can't install "to" SD card..
Now I saw the titanium update. I will see if I can restore from backups..
You have to backup the apps with titanium backup to restore them u can't just restore apps from a nandroid with it
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I have done some searching and other threads didn't exactly answer my question.
I understand that a Nandroid backup will take you back to the way your phone was before flashing a ROM.
My question is does that include all the installed apps? So like I have my SMS Backup & Restore, Defender II, and Dolphin Browser (just to name a few of the many). So does the Nandroid backup all these apps as well, or just what is on the internal memory?
jacodaburr said:
I have done some searching and other threads didn't exactly answer my question.
I understand that a Nandroid backup will take you back to the way your phone was before flashing a ROM.
My question is does that include all the installed apps? So like I have my SMS Backup & Restore, Defender II, and Dolphin Browser (just to name a few of the many). So does the Nandroid backup all these apps as well, or just what is on the internal memory?
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A nandroid backup is an exactly image of your kernel, system, data, and boot image as well. Your user applications are stored inside the data partition that means yes your applications are in your nandroid too.
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parusia said:
A nandroid backup is an exactly image of your kernel, system, data, and boot image as well. Your user applications are stored inside the data partition that means yes your applications are in your nandroid too.
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YAY Thanks you! I finally got everything working with my current ROM and wanted to experiment with some of the Jelly Bean ROMs, but wanted to make sure all my work wasn't going to go to waste, lol.
Keep in mind though, Nandoid back ups don't always flash/restore like it was before. It's a good temporary fix if something messes up, but not (in my opinion) a permanent solution.
If restored using backups a few times and they always came out buggy, I only use them in case of emergency!
Bluntified said:
Keep in mind though, Nandoid back ups don't always flash/restore like it was before. It's a good temporary fix if something messes up, but not (in my opinion) a permanent solution.
If restored using backups a few times and they always came out buggy, I only use them in case of emergency!
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If it at least restores the ROM itself and everything with that I am fine, which is what I knew it would at least do. Having all my apps there is just a plus! xD
It won't backup your images and songs, and it doesn't come out buggy.
doanthaitu said:
It won't backup your images and songs, and it doesn't come out buggy.
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I try to keep this files on the external as a necessary precaution in case anything ever goes, even when running stock ROM, lol. Thanks though