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Just flashed back to stock 2.2

ok i have tried numerous ROMs (cm7, MIUI Desire Z 1.4, Senseginger 3.0, VillainROMZ 1.0.0, etc) and none of them seemed very stable.
pretty laggy or clunky and lots fo FC's so i went back to stock rom and
once again phone is working flawlessly.
now my question is...what now?
radios? kernels?
what do you recommend doing now that im rooted and back on stock ROM?

Have u tried virtuous?
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Try the gingerbread leak for tmobile G2, try xboarders pure stock, try ultimate droid, etc etc
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heisdnice said:
ok i have tried numerous ROMs (cm7, MIUI Desire Z 1.4, Senseginger 3.0, VillainROMZ 1.0.0, etc) and none of them seemed very stable.
pretty laggy or clunky and lots fo FC's so i went back to stock rom and
once again phone is working flawlessly.
now my question is...what now?
radios? kernels?
what do you recommend doing now that im rooted and back on stock ROM?
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What now?
If you're happy with the stock ROM, why did you root?
If you rooted just for the sake of rooting, then you wasted your time. Sure, you can uninstall bloatware but, really, you could have done that with temp root and PM.
Personally, I avoided MIUI (if I wanted an iPhone I would have bought an iPhone) and Sense ROMs (I don't care for eye candy) and the only lag I found with CM7 was due to ADW so I deleted it and either use the stock GB launcher or Launcher Pro and have had no lag issues.
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OriginalGabriel said:
What now?
If you're happy with the stock ROM, why did you root?
If you rooted just for the sake of rooting, then you wasted your time. Sure, you can uninstall bloatware but, really, you could have done that with temp root and PM.
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First off, while the stock ROM is actually quite good, you don't know whether you will like newer or custom ROMs better unless you try them first.
Aside from that, there are plenty of reasons to root and stay on the stock ROM. Such as overclocking the CPU, being able to use Titanium Backup and other apps (ShootMe, AdFree), and there are other benefits, as well.
Being rooted isn't just about flashing custom ROMs.

OriginalGabriel said:
What now?
Personally, I avoided MIUI (if I wanted an iPhone I would have bought an iPhone) and Sense ROMs (I don't care for eye candy) and the only lag I found with CM7 was due to ADW so I deleted it and either use the stock GB launcher or Launcher Pro and have had no lag issues.
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Launcher Pro is currently my favourite launcher, it is very fast, even at stock speeds.
I've found that all ROMs can be choppy from time to time, especially when my phone is not overclocked. I'm running at 1.4GHz most the time, but that's probably overkill.
My vote if you want a "just works" feel is use Virtuous - no point using stock when Virtuous exists. It's so much better optimised and you won't miss stock at all.

thansk for the opinions guys.
since Virtuous is what was recommended...
which version do you recommend for the g2?

You'll want the newest version of Virtuous, as there isn't any significant difference between the g2 and desire z, as far as I know.
You can get the most up to date Virtuous ROM from this thread:
[ROM][04/11/11] Virtuous v1.0.2 (HTC Sense 1.85.72.2) w/Fixes & Enhancements
Alternatively it's available through ROM Manager.
If you want overclocking you'll need either the "Standard" or "Advanced" Virtuous kernel, which are both also available from ROM Manager.

If you click the link on the Virtuous thread, or download using ROM Manager, the latest versions (1.0.2) is the only one available. G2 or Desire Z doesn't matter.
If you are asking which kernel, that's your choice. The ROM comes with the "Virtuous Standard" kernel which is overclocked to 1 GHz. If you want more OC options, up to 1.5 GHz, pick the Advanced Kernel. But keep in mind you will likely have to tinker with SetCPU screen-off profiles, otherwise you will have screen wake issues with the Advanced Kernel. If you want the kernel that "just works" stick with Standard.

awesome replies guys. very insightful.
ive chosen to install virtuous with the standard kernel

heisdnice I'm in the same boat as you. I'm running the xboarder56 ROM right now as it seems to be running stable...mius the GPS not working its ok.
I tried the latest Virtuous ROM and found it to be pretty good but I noticed that I got a FC on Handscent SMS and WiFi calling (even with the latter being removed via ROM Manager patch). I also found that a couple of Storm8 games that were fine on other ROMs (incl. the stock) had some imaging issues.
Trying to go through a bunch to see which ones are good and most suitable for me.

[Q] Miui Kernel ?

Hey all,
I wan to know (since im quite new to MIUI rom's) which alternative (to the stock) kernel do you propose ? I'm using Miui Xj 1.7.15

aca85 said:
Hey all,
I wan to know (since im quite new to MIUI rom's) which alternative (to the stock) kernel do you propose ? I'm using Miui Xj 1.7.15
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Well, this is at your discretion to choose what you want (either BFS, CFS, OC/UV, OC, etc.), but I think that every AOSP kernel will work with the MIUI. Just head over to AOSP kernels and see which one suits you best.
What I usually do, before deciding what ROM, Kernel, etc. to use, I try them all. The best one that gives the highest performance (no lags, multitasking, etc.) is the one I choose. Now it can differ from what you want. Also I do like stability, so anything that is passed as UNSTABLE I stay away from it.
EDIT: I saw that you have used "Kernel : 2.6.35.13 ManU 2.0", which I think is compatible with MIUI. If you liked it, than maybe you should stick with it.
Always do a NADROID Back-up before flashing the new kernel, so you can always have a root out.

[Q] Most Stable ROM

Hello ppl, i recently got a desire for uhh, 100 bucks
and now i see that this device has lot of ROMs.
(i'm now doing the roots and installing the recoverys)
I was looking for something simple, because this is for my brother and he is not such a geek, i just want a rom that does not have freezes or reboots, that works smooth
Does the ICS ROMs already stable or i should go for GB?
thanks ppl!

CM7 no questions asked.
Make sure to S-OFF and flash cm7 hboot to get the most space for apps

used CM7 a long time, but the ROM i used the longest is InsertCoin v1.1.4 on Stock HBOOT.
It's fast and stable, just had one issue in over 6 months which could be resolved by flashing a kernel without two way call recording.

Cyanogenmod, or Oxygen which is more barebones. Or stock Sense ROMs should be stable also. Personally I dont care for sense that much.

ICS is not stable, there are still some issues that need to be ironed out.
Stick to GB, I would recommend any of Roalex's roms, they're fantastic, even his ICS rom, which from my experience is the Best ICS rom on the desire at the moment.

Thank you everybody, now i gonna try your suggestions!

I really also liked Roalex's updated Oxygen, but it has one problem, if you move an app to sd, you can't move it back to the phone. This is using the standard apps to sd function of android. Roalexe's Cyanogen based GB rom has this issue also. I also had to restore apn's from a backup to get 3g working on the CM version. So they might not be as rock solid as original cm or oxygen.

I'm used MildWild V-4.0 Based on Oxygen 2.3.2 for about 2 to 3 months, I didnt faced single issue. This was my best ROM I have used..

Hi, I would tend to say Mildwild based on oxygen too. It is very stable. Mildwild CM is also nice but last version has bugs.

First, I would say, that it's ur choice.
Everybody says Oxygen is quiet good, but in my opinion, it's very ugly.
So CM will be nice, too. But u have to choose by ur self which rom is better 4 u.

The Gingerbread (Android 2.3.7) version of MIUI_Au (v. 2.1.13, which you will have to google as newcomers are stupidly barred from posting outside links) is also very stable, fast, and quite aesthetically pleasing, so you might want to give it a go.

Dont want to seem like a broken record but this is my post on another thread.
I know it's still in beta but Im using ICS .10.1 by Sandvold, very stable, no issues with the mass of apps I have installed and battery is great, better than stock I find. The ROM is fast and responsive again better than stock. Tried a few GB roms and sense roms but this is the best so far.
For various reasons I have gone back to these ICS roms, battery life, BSOD's and FC's. I've tried Runny roms and MUIU though still have serious issues on my phone. Running the current rom I could pretty much not update or change it and would be happy with it. Very stable, smooth and no BSOD's since latest update. Worth considering IMO.

Insetcoin is great, I'm on that ROM very long and its smooth and stable.

People claiming ICS ROM's at the moment are the most stable are seriously brain damaged..
3 biggest issues with all of them = broken video recording, no usb tethering, sluggish (unless you use only few apps and dont need a dalvik 2 ext scripts)
Also the "Full HWA" is still a hack.
I'm not saying they are bad, but they cannot be considered as "most stable" by any means.
The most stable ROM's by now, are the AOSP ones based on Gingerbread. (CM7, Oxygen etc.)
Ok maybe they are not "eye candy" out of the box, but if you spend some time to theme it then you'll be surprised, and you actually dont need Sense or ICS ROM's to achieve it.
Some examples. http://mycolorscreen.com/popular/

Hi,
I've been using mildwild V4.0 oxygen since it is out and I'm very pleased with it.
It is stable and fast. Sometimes I miss some sense functions like rolling numbers when setting the alarm clock. But when i use a sense rom, i realize how fast mildwild really is
The best is to try some Roms. Everybody has his own preferences.

I suggest mildwild v4.0 oxygen too

Runnymede AIO V6.0.4.3 Special Edition or MildWild CM 4.8

If you want ICS, BCM 3.7U0 but of course it's not the most stable ROM but I'm telling you this ROM is great although it says your sd-ext must be less than 1.5Gb but I'm using it with 2Gb sd-ext 4 on a class 4, 16 Gb sd card with no problem at all. Trust me on these if not the most stable only because of the usb tethering and 15fps video recording, this ROM is the most performance sucker I ever had my benchmark on quadrant advance is 1708 with this ROM and I didn't even overclock my cpu but on a stable gb ROM my benchmark was 998 with the same app.let me point out that I have 132 apps installed on the ICS but I only had 87 apps on the gb ROM.
And with mods I have made it too look like this:
I might be a new XDA-Developers user but it doesn't mean that I'm new to using its stuff, it only means that I have been dumb enough to just use and never comment!!
Hope I could Help
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i ussed RSK 7.4.3 is pretty stable and guick...

MildWild V4, based on Oxygen

Recommend me some ROMs! [Defy+]

Hello everyone, I'm new to the forums but I've been looking into custom ROMs for some time already.
I'd like to tell you that I'm extremely dumb when it comes to things like Kernel, even though I understand a bit of these, I have lots of questions, keeping with that example, if I flash a CM9 Kernel, when I restore an old backup (where I used the Stock phone, for instance), what happens to that Kernel? Is it erased and the Kernel is back to my Stock?
But well, let's get the thread specifically where I want, the custom ROMs.
As previously said, I'm stupidly new to these things, but I decided to gamble on my luck and flash a CM9 Quarx nightly some days ago (can't remember from where I got that one, sorry), but I experienced some problems, like a small lag (yeah, I didn't really like the speed, compared to my stock) and an awful battery problem, where two battery fixes didn't work, and, then, with my heart desolated like a dragon's breath on corn fields, I restored the stock backup I made before doing that.
Ah yeah, I forgot to mention that my Defy+ came with a 2.3.4 version of the OS, just to let you guys know.
So, after that, seeking for more candy to my eyes (Jesus, I loved the settings and stuff from that ROM!), I sailed my boat to the famous WhiteRabbit 1.6, which I must admit, I LOVED it. But as I said, LOV"ED", until I started to face a giant tide... My phone was constantly freezing for long periods (something between 4 and 6 minutes, usually), something of which made my phone quite unusuable and unstable. With tears in my eyes, listening to Beethoven's 1st move of Moonlight Sonata (on the PC...), I decided to restore that old - 2-day old actually - backup to Stock again.
Now I just noticed that I don't like Stock anymore, I can't stand the limitations in comparison to the other two ROMs I used, and I want more! I want some stable ROM, and with "stable" I really mean something stable: a ROM that won't freeze, that has the basic stuff working, a good-looking UI, with fast and smooth scrolling, with a fix for the battery error (if there is the error on the ROM... which I'm quite sure will have), and that gives me more than the Stock would.
I've been looking at that MIUI Pikachu Edition and I really want to try it out, so, should I go on with it? Or do you guys recommend me something else? Another thing that I forgot to say is that I don't really feel like downgrading my Kernel nor putting my phone into a knight's blade way.
Yup, my device is Rooted and has a Boot Manager that I got on some brazillian forums, everything works as I guess they should do.
Sorry for the wall of text and before anything, thanks in advance!

Hey, mate
MIUI Pikachu Edition was the ROM I used absolutely the longest, almost two months without switching to anything else. I must admit that was the time I was constantly satisfied with my phone, but then CM9 became stable and I switched to it and then I simply couldn't go back to any Gingerbread ROM as the new features (mostly the looks ) of ICS were just too good Soon CM10 showed up and I've been with it since the first nightly.
So, yes, I think you should try Pikachu, but for it you need to flash "bl6 Froyo", because it's built for Froyo kernel only. (You cannot flash those flashable kernel zips! They are meant for the standard DEFY only. They are signed as bl5 and if you were to flash one of those, you would end up with a bootloader error, so you would have to flash the 2.3.4 sbf to get your phone back up and running...)
Other than that, CM10 is pretty much the way to go, if you ask me. Yes, it might take some time to load an app or another, but it's the most advanced ROM for the DEFY(+) so far and Jelly Bean really is the best Android version up to date. Quarx's latest nightly is the best version at the moment - the one from two days ago (September 12th). (Paranoid Android and AOKP are both based on Quarx's work, at least our (DEFY) versions)
The third choice for me would be MIUI 4.1, the one based on Jelly Bean. MIUI v4 was a nice step forward when it comes to looks, but it was two steps back when it comes to performance. v4.1 is a much better performer, but work on it has just started, so it'll take a couple of versions to polish it a bit. If you try and like Pikachu I guess you should follow Wajk's WIUI Jelly Bean progress and switch to it when you find it good enough for you
P.S. If it happens that you like Gingerbread more than Jelly Bean for whatever reason and don't like MIUI, FuZZ's CM7 KANG's were always the best for me :good:

I'd say that depends on how you want to handle your phone. If you want to just install a custom ROM once and then stick with it I can recommend CM 7.2, I had that for like half a year and everything worked nicely. It also offers lots of extra features and customization.
If you want the newest Android version I can second the above notion, try CM10 by Quarx. its a great ROM, and even though it is still work in Progress everything you need is working. This might mean that you want to update your ROM every once in a while to get the newest build and features, but this can be done easily through an app from within CM10.
As you have a Defy+ you wont need to flash any Kernel for the above, just pick the correct (Defy+) Version.

use CM10 its stable & works fine on defy+

Because of the controversy and arguments they inevitably generate, "best ROM" threads are prohibited on XDA. Thread closed.

ROM/KERNEL Guide for Beginners

Hi guys @xda.uncle suggested I make a guide of what to flash for newbies. Here it is!
So you want to learn about roms? Well this guide will demonstrate which rom is suitable for you. Lets begin.
A first note is if you are marvel or marvelc. A marvel(GSM) device has a removable sim. A marvelc(CDMA) device does not. If you go into "About Phone" in Settings you can find out whether you are marvel or marvelc.
Sense 2.1​
Info:
These roms are based on stock and are definitely recommended for beginners. There are many mods and kernels for this type of rom. Themes have been created by @Mazer.one, @steelmaggot and yours truly! This type of rom is very customizable.
Advantages:
The most stable - no performance issues
The best battery - around 5-6days
Based on stock - no bugs
Disadvantages:
None
Kernel for performance: Dustv9.0
Kernel for battery: Cakev1.4
Kernel for balance: SenseFirev2
Sense 3.5​
Info:
This rom was first ported by @idogx to our device. This rom is actually fairly fast and has quite an amazing UI. Thanks to @einstein.frat and @finance.resat the rom is pretty much stable.
Advantages:
Smooth and fast - performace is tip-top
Great UI - slightly better than Sense 2.1
Also cusomizable - in Themes and Apps section
Disadvantages:
A few bugs - accelerometer and weather
Kernel for performance: mindhaxor overloackable
Kernel for battery: EQKDP kernel
Kernel for balance: kernel by baluu
CyanogenMod 7​
Info:
There are only a few bugs and this rom has a reasonable battery and reasonable speed. This was first ported succesfully by @alquez. By reasonable I mean it isn't the best but it is good. The best gingerbread rom is either CM7 or my Semi-AOSP rom which is slightly more stable. Unfortunately CM7 is not available for marvelc but @crossfire77 is looking into that.
Advantages:
Recently has become stable
Many CM7 themes
New kernel thanks to @eoghan2t7
Disadvantages:
Still has bugs - tethering
Slower than sense
Kernel for battery: Stock CM7 with governor as smartassv2 and max 600 and min 122
Kernel for performance: Stock CM7 with governor as performance and max 864 and min 122 - slight chance of reboots
Kernel for balance: eoghan2t7 CM7 kernel
CyanogenMod 9​
Info:
Another awesome android version with a few bugs. This is slightly worse than CM7 but better than CM10. This was first ported by @modpunk who is also known as Cryptomilk and asn. There are many speedy roms for this but not bugfree.
Advantages:
Hardware accelertion enabled - better graphics
Many awesome CM9 themes
Disadvantages:
Quite buggy - video playback
Tethering doesn't work
Kernel for battery: Stock CM9
Kernel for performance: Stock CM9 with governor as performance
Kernel for balance: eoghan2t7 CM9 kernel
CyanogenMod 10​
Info:
Also ported by @modpunk this rom is the most admired by people. This due to the number of tweaked out and themed roms people have created.
Advantages:
A large variation to choose from
Awesome themes again
Many different mods
Disadvantages:
Tethering bug
Not very good battery
Kernel for performance: Optima kernel by Jdroid (Jdevs) on 4pda.RU
Kernel for battery: Stock CM10
Kernel for balance: eoghan2t7 CM10 kernel
CyanogenMod 10.1​
Info:
Succesfully started by @rapalag and made more stable by @JDevs. This rom is still slowly developing but alright for daily use.
Advantages:
Being developed by experienced people
Slowly becoming stable
Disadvantages:
Still not stable
Not suitable for beginners
See here
MIUI​
Info:
The most beautiful rom ever! @Henry_01 and @ak0r are the main men here. A great rom but speed isn't the top priority.
Advantages:
Looks beautiful
Great graphics
Disadvantages:
Not so well on speed
Kernel for battery: Stock with OC disabled
Kernel for performance: Stock with performance as governor
Kernel for balance: Stock
Extra Tips​
Always press thanks if you use someone's rom
Press thanks if you like someone's post
If you want to flash gapps get them from here.
There are different guides here in the General section
When posting a question, do it in the Q & A section and nowhere else
Always read the ROM thread before flashing a rom or asking the OP questions, if your question is not answered in the OP then you may ask your question
Remember to look at the bugs list
Look for keywords like UNSATBLE, BUGGY and BOOTLOOP. These things you don't want to flash
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Don't forget to press thanks to this thread guys!
Could a moderator make this thread a sticky please. Thanks.

My sense 3.5 Marvellous Rom doesn't have weather bug.
Henrys miui is stable and fast but only chinese and english language.
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Kevinjoa said:
My sense 3.5 Marvellous Rom doesn't have weather bug.
Henrys miui is stable and fast but only chinese and english language.
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Thanks for the info. Sorry I can't press thanks as I'm up to my 8 thanks.

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I don't doubt that thread will be useful for many people. thank you again

great post but also note that cm 10.1 has very good battery performance i'd say next to stock rom

good work, thats all what i needed.

Added kernel settings and which kernel to flash.
Please press thanks!
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Hey,if u wanna have more stability for miui, my miui rom will be suitable! It uses cm7 inatead of cm9,but hey it is more stable, YOLO right?
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davidang said:
Hey,if u wanna have more stability for miui, my miui rom will be suitable! It uses cm7 inatead of cm9,but hey it is more stable, YOLO right?
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Well. You first build was good but then your second build just killed it. Always remember a rom is a zip not a rar. But yeah it was stable.

I desire a rom which is
bugfree
perfectly stable as stock
not draining battery
int2ext4 included
gapps included
no responding problems ( eg. app isn't responding)
UI isn't importantt for me. Battery, performance and stability are essential. That's why I will flash sense 2.1. Thanks to this guide I found the answer. And special thanks to @thehacka1 I think other developers should help him to improve this guide. Cuz, this is really useful and there is no guide for beginners like that.
When it comes to my question, I wonder Can I use int2ext4 with sense 2.1?

xda.uncle said:
I desire a rom which is
bugfree
perfectly stable as stock
not draining battery
int2ext4 included
gapps included
no responding problems ( eg. app isn't responding)
UI isn't importantt for me. Battery, performance and stability are essential. That's why I will flash sense 2.1. Thanks to this guide I found the answer. And special thanks to @thehacka1 I think other developers should help him to improve this guide. Cuz, this is really useful and there is no guide for beginners like that.
When it comes to my question, I wonder Can I use int2ext4 with sense 2.1?
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You can use it but you need to flash an OC kernel first that has EXT4 support.

Will try to improve next time
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You can use it but you need to flash an OC kernel first that has EXT4 support.
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it doesn't has to be ext4. I mean it doesn't matter, I can use data2sd or somethin else. I just need to expand my internal app memory.
Even so, do I have to flash kernel OC?

It's actually good that you posted that......but IMHO people should test kernels,governers and I/O scheduler themselves rather than being told
The only things people should suggest are 1.Tell them to read about governers and I/O schedulers,2.Understand a bit about them and 3.See which combination works for them
If they do not want all this,they don't need to change anything.....the stock(preset) options would be just fine for them

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csoulr666 said:
It's actually good that you posted that......but IMHO people should test kernels,governers and I/O scheduler themselves rather than being told
The only things people should suggest are 1.Tell them to read about governers and I/O schedulers,2.Understand a bit about them and 3.See which combination works for them
If they do not want all this,they don't need to change anything.....the stock(preset) options would be just fine for them
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Honestly, you're right. But some people (like me) can't find any time to read and understand all of these issues. I wish I had time to understand how Android OS works and develop somethin useful for everyone in forum but I can't unfortunately. So, that's why a guide like that will be useful in any time. At least, thanks to guide like this, I can find easily what I'm searching for... Last thing I want to say that doesn't mean I'm lazy. Actually, I have really high involvement in this kind of issues. But, I'm working and it makes me really exhausted when I get back to home.
King regards,
Uncle.

If you have time to download and flash roms,then you definetely have time to read all about them....enough said

csoulr666 said:
If you have time to download and flash roms,then you definetely have time to read all about them....enough said
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I have read a lot and still reading. But you know, these things may have effect on learning. Firstly you want, then you flash easily, and then you wonder how to build your rom or improve existing one. So, that's why I found useful that kind of topics. It wasn't offensive.

thanks for this
i am looking for cm10 or cm10.1 with working usb tethering

Bump. Can't let this thread die so easily.
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