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I have been trying to use some flash drives as external storage however I ran into some trouble.
1. First of all without rooting and getting a kernel or something (which I cannot do as my phone is sim and bootloader locked to o2 right now) it can only read FAT32 formatted drives rather than NTFS.
This means I have to either split >4gb files into two smaller pieces or re-encode. I don't like re-encoding because of the great hdmi output so why not carry full blu-ray rips
2. Does anybody know the power output of the USB port in the Xperia S? Is it something like 100ma or less? As you can see from my photos below here are my tests,
Sony 16gb Micro Vault Click USM-L (pink)...........works fine.
Sony 16gb Micro Vault Click USM-P (black)...........works fine.
Verbatim Stor N Go 32GB Micro USB (tiny one)..........USB Power Consumption Error
I don't like the fact that it is hit and miss when choosing drives and don't always want to carry around a powered USB hub or a Sony Ericsson Livedock instead of the tiny drives and the lightweight micro usb->female usb cable.
Its meant to be "USB On-the-go" not "USB can't go because my arms are tired and bag is full"
There is NO information on either Sony's nor Verbatim's website regarding the power consumption of their flash drives.
Any suggestion's?
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did you try to conncet wireless keyboard ?
did you buy any in particular ?
i have already order this one
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320739400862&ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:GB:1123
i hope will work. will it?
hi i also bought a cheapy one from ebay and its perfectly fine
yes usb keyboard and mouse works fine, tried logitech k800 with unifying receiver and also tried microsoft keyboard and mouse desktop combo with big ass usb receiver. i have not tried bluetooth yet but that would be preferable to me because it will take one less port.
i would also like to hear about the livedock or if anyone has made a a simple y cable with "micro usb male" (to go into phone) split into "female usb" (for usb device) and "female microusb" (for charging input).
In fact why not go the whole kaboodle
A. Keyboard & Mouse & Headset & Phonejoy controller & Smartwatch : simultaneous Bluetooth
B. Flash Drive or USB Hub with multiple drives: Micro USB to USB adapter
C. TVOUT : HDMI
D. Charging : Female Micro USB input from same spliiter cable as B
now its a full desktop, NES, SNES, whatever all controlled by any of the above and the damn thing is the size of your hand
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Basically does something like this exist?
This cable should in theory have the same functionality of the bulky livedock?
I was thinkink about same thing: y cable, so we were able to access flash drive (memory card) along with charging the phone. But i think it is not possible with JUST a cable. I think it is possible with live dock, but live dock probably got some sort of electronic curcuit board which controls flash drive and charging at the same time. Unless you would buy live dock for other phone (P in example), take curcuit board out and do DIY.
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That all sounds really cool to experiment with, but thats alot of gear to cart around... wouldn't it be easier just to buy say a PSP(homebrew) or perhaps a PSvita? Emulation is wasted on a touch screen.
The kernel mods in the dev section have already enabled ntfs fs reading amongst other things, you could flash these right now or the first roms will probably have this soon which should help you out quite a bit.
I bought the livedock for the XPS hoping it would work for usb charging via computer, it does not; a Y cable is a good idea tho... unfortunately the dock just does not suit the XPS at all, does not sit correctly, u have to lean the dock usb connector on the ground for the whole setup to be "somewhat" stable and just looks silly, not to mention unsafe.
Those clove youtube vids area bit of a con imo.
-smc
Does anybody know where we can buy the original Sony Ericsson USB OTG? Also, does anyone know the part number? I do not want to use any other brands. Hope someone could help
Any reason why? You can buy it of ebay for just a couple of pounds and is working fine.
I connected Logitech RumblePad to my xperia S (Using some samsung USB adapter)- including vibrations, so i think power output is pretty ok.
somemadcaaant said:
That all sounds really cool to experiment with, but thats alot of gear to cart around... wouldn't it be easier just to buy say a PSP(homebrew) or perhaps a PSvita? Emulation is wasted on a touch screen.
The kernel mods in the dev section have already enabled ntfs fs reading amongst other things, you could flash these right now or the first roms will probably have this soon which should help you out quite a bit.
I bought the livedock for the XPS hoping it would work for usb charging via computer, it does not; a Y cable is a good idea tho... unfortunately the dock just does not suit the XPS at all, does not sit correctly, u have to lean the dock usb connector on the ground for the whole setup to be "somewhat" stable and just looks silly, not to mention unsafe.
Those clove youtube vids area bit of a con imo.
-smc
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hi it wouldn't be too much to carry around, consider having a phone and a vita and a laptop? at what cost. you'll still always need at least 2 devices, you phone and another. now you can have all three from one nice looking device and can take each accessory when required. ie all three to a hotel, just the keyboard for working on, just the gamepad when you feel like it. check out the freedom pro keyboard (better than a laptop's) or the phonejoy for a full vita beating experience (comfort wise - wireless on big screen anywhere)
and minimising what we need to carry is the whole point of finding if such a y cable works because then we don't have the added bulk of the Livedock...
thanks for your review of the livedock, even more reason to want that cable! I cant believe there is no grip, i wouldn't have been able to assume that from the Clove videos. its a bit silly that the Xperia P has the new smartdock but because they put our ports on opposite sides we can't use it
i noticed the devs have a kernel for ntfs compatibility but i cant use it as i havent even received my sim unlock code from my network let alone finding out if my locked bootloader can be unlocked after this. plus ive just discovered how bad the yellow tint issue is on my phone, so its a bit of a wait for me!
ergo14 said:
I connected Logitech RumblePad to my xperia S (Using some samsung USB adapter)- including vibrations, so i think power output is pretty ok.
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yeah but i don't think the wireless receiver for the rumblepad takes up as much power as constant reading from and powering a flash drive would. the wireless receiver doesn't need much compared to that and the controller itself has its own battery
nevertheless you could be right in suggesting that the power output is ok as it powers some but not all drives, so if its not power output then there is some other reason for the compatibility issue with each usb device... so we should do a list of what drives work and which dont
Hi
just want to know if this will work with the Xperia S
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310371255484?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
I asked the seller but he says its only compatiable with nokia as it a nokia branded cable but surle all these cable are the same as any generic ones as they use the same connections?
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Hi
just want to know if this will work with the Xperia S
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310371255484?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
I asked the seller but he says its only compatiable with nokia as it a nokia branded cable but surle all these cable are the same as any generic ones as they use the same connections?
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it looks like this cable will work perfectly fine, just branded and looks pretty nice actually. however id be weary of choosing this when there are right angled micro usbs on some adapters...these are more practical in my opinion after having used my similarly priced generic ebay otg cable and also the standard charger cable that comes with the phone
i bought this one
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290680019...id=m570.l2736&_nkw=290680019654&_fvi=1&_rdc=1
but if you want your one, here it is for 30p cheaper
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-N..._MobilePhoneDataCables_JN&hash=item4601d26b4b
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yeah but i don't think the wireless receiver for the rumblepad takes up as much power as constant reading from and powering a flash drive would. the wireless receiver doesn't need much compared to that and the controller itself has its own battery
nevertheless you could be right in suggesting that the power output is ok as it powers some but not all drives, so if its not power output then there is some other reason for the compatibility issue with each usb device... so we should do a list of what drives work and which dont
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I'ts normal usb connected pad I'ts NOT wireless at any rate
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I'ts normal usb connected pad I'ts NOT wireless at any rate
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wow confirms the plenty of power theory then, does it rumble and everything all powered by the phone?
Understood.
Yeah i'm a huge fan of mobile docks, they screwed us over regarding that i reckon, bad bad port locations...
Sorry to hear about your yellow tint issue, what a pain in the arse, reminds me like some kind of sun damage i've seen on other devices before left on the car dash for an hr.
-smc
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wow confirms the plenty of power theory then, does it rumble and everything all powered by the phone?
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Yes it does, i had to connect it 2 times, at first phone said it takes too much power, but on 2nd time, it worked fine, and yes it did rumble when i pressed vibration button on it ;-)
willusdun said:
it looks like this cable will work perfectly fine, just branded and looks pretty nice actually. however id be weary of choosing this when there are right angled micro usbs on some adapters...these are more practical in my opinion after having used my similarly priced generic ebay otg cable and also the standard charger cable that comes with the phone
i bought this one
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290680019...id=m570.l2736&_nkw=290680019654&_fvi=1&_rdc=1
but if you want your one, here it is for 30p cheaper
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-N..._MobilePhoneDataCables_JN&hash=item4601d26b4b
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I know the right angled ones will be better, but i just love the build quilty of the Nokia one so will probably give it a try.
To anyone interested in OTG cables:
Guys, the Nokia OTG cable works just fine and is VERY good quality and very common anywhere (quite cheap as well).
Tested by me. Already connected my 16GB Ultra Speed Transcend USB drive and works fine.
I've been using OTG since day 1 when i got the unit - like the OP says, the power consumption of the USB port for devices are hit-and-miss.
Some usb drives works great, some consumes too much power and cannot be powered on; so far, my wireless keyboard+touchpad set (rapoo) works great.
i have bought 3 different cables from uk but none work the tv just tells me there is no signal is there something in settings on the tablet as i have now spent about 20 pound on cables that dont work...
if hnae the cable of newmp3technology with fmw 4.0.6 and it is ok
didnt know there was a 4.06 though we were on 4.05?
4.0.5 bug on HDMI, 4.0.6 (test firmware) solve this problem
more info : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1549611
done the upgrade and still not working, is there a special kind of hdmi cablet that archos requires as my old herotab c8 works perfectly with the cables i have?
Try the cable on another TV or monitor to confirm its not an issue with the TV you are using
the cables work with my herotab and tv so either my hdmi on my archos is broken or needs a specific type of hdmi cable
i just used a cheap hdmi cable and its working great...
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i just used a cheap hdmi cable and its working great...
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Where did you get it cus mine are relatively cheap ones but don't work with the archos I'm beginning to fear that my HDMI port is broken
soulclaimed said:
Where did you get it cus mine are relatively cheap ones but don't work with the archos I'm beginning to fear that my HDMI port is broken
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local shop here in the Philippines.. only problem that i had with hdmi is the first version of ICS in our g9... but after updating to 4.05, its working again
I bought a HDMI cable the other day for €2..
Turns out that the Archos needs a MINI HDMI cable...WTF?
Anybody know where I could get a MINI HDMI / HDMI splitter?
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Just bought a £20 cable from maplin electronics and still no luck think my HDMI port may be faulty
IrishStuff09 said:
I bought a HDMI cable the other day for €2..
Turns out that the Archos needs a MINI HDMI cable...WTF?
Anybody know where I could get a MINI HDMI / HDMI splitter?
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any electronics store should have a hdmi to mini hdmi adapter
soulclaimed said:
Just bought a £20 cable from maplin electronics and still no luck think my HDMI port may be faulty
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You paid how much for a HDMI?? You got ripped off as there is no difference between a £2 cable and a £20 one xD
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I got a lead for less than £2 off Amazon.Co.UK and it works perfectly.
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it was more to test if the cheap cables I was buying were faulty also i am due to return the cable wish i could find my receipt i would take the tablet back to currys also
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it was more to test if the cheap cables I was buying were faulty also i am due to return the cable wish i could find my receipt i would take the tablet back to currys also
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Try this http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0064UIGUG/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
And just buy a cheap cable to use with it.
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hi guys, which HDMI cables are compatible with the HOX?
I heard the EVO 3D one is
Also do the HDMI leads also charge the HOX? Cheers
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http://www.amazon.fr/HTC-99H10395-0...on/dp/B004Z8EQ4Y/ref=?ie=UTF8&m=ATRDKIXG8BGKU
Many thanks, any cheaper alternatives around at all?
I've just gone for this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007K8NN9U/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
Will probably get it tomorrow. Tried a similar one yesterday at my mate's house and it worked fine on his 19' monitor.
That's awesome, cheers fella
siaosi said:
I've just gone for this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007K8NN9U/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
Will probably get it tomorrow. Tried a similar one yesterday at my mate's house and it worked fine on his 19' monitor.
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This looks very affordable. Question though, can it be used to watch let's say catch up tv, or netflx as well?, cause at the moment am working away from home, and we have television that supports hdmi, but no digital service, so was hoping to show this off, to my colleagues.
So would this be like using the Media Link but not wirelessly?
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So would this be like using the Media Link but not wirelessly?
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I think so, i ordered one yesterday so ill make a little video when it arrives, show how it works
So got it today, already used it in the 40' HDTV we have in the office and works fine. But it does need a USB connection also for power, which is fine.
I played a 720p movie on the phone and it looked fine, the picture lost a bit quality, but it works.
Can't complain for £6! Does the job
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So would this be like using the Media Link but not wirelessly?
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I haven't used the media link, so I don't know the picture quality. But the adaptor I bought works fine
I'm using the bizlink mhl cable on a Samsung le40a559 and it works fine IF you set it up right.
1. Connect HDMI to tv.
2. Connect HDMI to mhl.
3. Connect power to mhl.
4. Wait for tv to search for signal.
5. Connect mhl to phone.
If you connect in any other order it seems to cause headaches at least mine did. Outputting in 1280 x 720p @ 60hz. Noice.
All I need now is root so I can pair my ps3 sixaxis and Shadowgun is getting pwnd.
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I picked up an mhl cable for the samsung galaxy series of phones from ebay last week, charges the one x and plays everything from the screen straight to the TV via HDML, works great. Tried posting a link but less than 8 posts but worth looking on ebay for though.
i'm curious if anyone has found an mhl adapter that will working without needing power.
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i'm curious if anyone has found an mhl adapter that will working without needing power.
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i don't think its possible. the port on any hdmi output (ie bluray etc) would need to have some sort of power source, the mhl doesnt output enough (if any) power to run the hdmi, hence the requirement for a separate power source.
i use my portable charger to run it, works a treat.
Iphones are able to output hdmi with just an adapter, so i dont see why an one x wouldnt be able to.
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i'm curious if anyone has found an mhl adapter that will working without needing power.
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In order to do this you need an mhl capable TV. Any TV with HDMI will display video but only TVs certified as mhl capable will charge the device via HDMI.
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and if you have a tv with a usb port for flashdrives or external drives next to the hdmi port, would that give power? maybe the output is too low, but it might at least keep the battery from draining right? cause then i could use a short usb cable and avoid having a cable coming from another source. I hate cables but don't trust the media link thing to work well, i've read that it uses some kind of compression for video, and that is a big no no.
I bought a cheap MHL from ebay and works perfect
Cannot work without power supply...
siaosi said:
I've just gone for this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007K8NN9U/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
Will probably get it tomorrow. Tried a similar one yesterday at my mate's house and it worked fine on his 19' monitor.
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Ordered one as well - should have next week so i'll report back how it works out. Was looking for something with a longer cable but at this price cant complain
imy300 said:
Ordered one as well - should have next week so i'll report back how it works out. Was looking for something with a longer cable but at this price cant complain
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Did yours work? I bought the same one and it doesn't work, TV recognises the MHL device but the phone doesn't.
If I get a usb Y cable or a powered usb hub, would a bluetooth dongle work? I think i can score a free ipad case with a bluetooth keyboard so i have to see how i can plop the little kindle in, but it would be nice to bring my kindle with me to school to type up research or whatever i need. I know there are threads about it but those date back in 2012 around may or so, so things could have changed
Yes. I was successfully able to get some flash drives to work, you just have to get chainfire's USB otg apps. I would imagine Bluetooth dongles would work as well
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jma9454 said:
Yes. I was successfully able to get some flash drives to work, you just have to get chainfire's USB otg apps. I would imagine Bluetooth dongles would work as well
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Alright thanks! Ill try it out and buy a Bluetooth dongle. I do have a wireless keyboard but it would be weird to lug around a full sized keyboard for a little tab
I've been trying to figure out how to mirror my Nexus 7's display to my standard TV. I believe I need a composite cable to do this. Is there any way I can directly output from the Nexus 7 to composite? Or do I have to go Nexus 7 > HDMI > HDMI to Composite Converter > TV? I'm just searching around for the cheapest possible solution, thanks!
Android Attack said:
I've been trying to figure out how to mirror my Nexus 7's display to my standard TV. I believe I need a composite cable to do this. Is there any way I can directly output from the Nexus 7 to composite? Or do I have to go Nexus 7 > HDMI > HDMI to Composite Converter > TV? I'm just searching around for the cheapest possible solution, thanks!
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That's a mess lol, so many adaptors, anyway for getting hdmi signal from the nexus 7 you would use a Slimport Adaptor like this, or you can use the official Slimport brand adaptor for 15 bucks more, the
Sevenarth said:
That's a mess lol, so many adaptors, anyway for getting hdmi signal from the nexus 7 you would use a Slimport Adaptor like this, or you can use the official Slimport brand adaptor for 15 bucks more, the
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Well, I'm searching for a method that does not involve HDMI. That will be most cost efficient and have less cables. I don't have an HDTV so I need a composite cable. Thanks!
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Android Attack said:
Well, I'm searching for a method that does not involve HDMI. That will be most cost efficient and have less cables. I don't have an HDTV so I need a composite cable. Thanks!
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Yeah i know what are you trying to do, but actually the only way to get wired audio/video signal is to use the slimport adaptor. (With wireless you would use Miracast but this isn't your case) So in your case you must use the slimport, the hdmi to composite adaptor and i think you should be good.
Sevenarth said:
Yeah i know what are you trying to do, but actually the only way to get wired audio/video signal is to use the slimport adaptor. (With wireless you would use Miracast but this isn't your case) So in your case you must use the slimport, the hdmi to composite adaptor and i think you should be good.
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Okay, thanks! If I purchase the Official SlimPort, will I be able to mirror both the Nexus 7 and other Samsung devices? Or just Nexus devices? Thanks.
Android Attack said:
Okay, thanks! If I purchase the Official SlimPort, will I be able to mirror both the Nexus 7 and other Samsung devices? Or just Nexus devices? Thanks.
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It would work fine with every device that support Slimport, newer devices do like LG G2, G Pad 8.3, Nexus 5 and so on. But you should check on the specifications of your devices. Before Slimport productors used to support MHL, which is almost the same but it keeps busy the USB port and on display that doesn't support MHL you should even buy an adapter which even needs external power supply.. if you can see on the Analogix Slimport adaptor you got a microUSB and the HDMI, the first is just for using it as the device one and HDMI for streaming. I was reading that Slimport has some limitations about the length of the HDMI cable, something like that it needs to be not longer than 50 centimeters otherwise you'd encounter problems..
Anyway i think that the Slimport adapter that costs just 15 bucks will be great.
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It would work fine with every device that support Slimport, newer devices do like LG G2, G Pad 8.3, Nexus 5 and so on. But you should check on the specifications of your devices. Before Slimport productors used to support MHL, which is almost the same but it keeps busy the USB port and on display that doesn't support MHL you should even buy an adapter which even needs external power supply.. if you can see on the Analogix Slimport adaptor you got a microUSB and the HDMI, the first is just for using it as the device one and HDMI for streaming. I was reading that Slimport has some limitations about the length of the HDMI cable, something like that it needs to be not longer than 50 centimeters otherwise you'd encounter problems..
Anyway i think that the Slimport adapter that costs just 15 bucks will be great.
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Alright, looks like the SlimPort isn't going to work with the Samsung devices. Is there a cheap alternative so I can switch between Nexus 7 and the other devices? Specifically the S3 and S2 (Epic 4G Touch)
Thanks!
Android Attack said:
Alright, looks like the SlimPort isn't going to work with the Samsung devices. Is there a cheap alternative so I can switch between Nexus 7 and the other devices? Specifically the S3 and S2 (Epic 4G Touch)
Thanks!
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I think the only way is to use Wi-Fi Direct/DLNA. If you're gonna cast your screen just for viewing youtube, netflix and stuff like that, you could use the Chromecast, which does that particular job. It can't cast the entire screen but movies, audio (and other DLNA stuff) and compatible apps (you need to see on its webpage) can right now. To cast the entire screen you would need the Miracast technology but i don't know if there are any good dongles on the market that permit to do that as chromecast does. I hope you know what I mean, i'm not a native english speaker
You should take a look at the Chromecast if that can do what you need, or you can see Miracast dongles like this but i can't suggest anything
OK, I'm trying to do the same. I bought a slimport adapter and a HDMI to composite adapter. My N7 works just fine from slimport to HDMI to the TV, but doesn't work when I add the HDMI to composite adapter. However, if I hook my cable box through HDMI to the composite adapter, all works well. So its something from that slimport out of the tablet to the other adapter. What I'm trying to do is get the display mirrored in my van for the kids and the van only has composite inputs. I'm at a loss.