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I am coming from WinMo to the Epic. I am noticing a lot of bloatware on this phone and am wondering if rooting it and installing a custom rom the only way to remove these programs? I mean there is a lot of literal crap on this device from Sprint. Any help would be appreciated, I read through all the forums I could think of and even went to the wiki and read.
You can use "one click root",then get a program called "sdx app remover".
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thank you very much
jonny4 said:
I am coming from WinMo to the Epic. I am noticing a lot of bloatware on this phone and am wondering if rooting it and installing a custom rom the only way to remove these programs? I mean there is a lot of literal crap on this device from Sprint. Any help would be appreciated, I read through all the forums I could think of and even went to the wiki and read.
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SDX app remover will work, but another option is to root, then download titanium backup from the market. I use the free version and it's great. Using this app, you can make backups of you apps and app data (1 at a time, in a batch, or even set overnight schedules). This comes in handy whether flashing roms, if a program gets corrupted, or even if you download an update to a program that doesn't work and want to restore the prior one. Also, if you go to the backup/restore tab, you can see all apps on the phone. If you press on the app, it brings up options, one of which is uninstall. If rooted, you can uninstall anything (just be careful).
Welcome to the epic.
I had the same thought with my heroc long ago. But the stock rom minus bloat still is garbage compared to even the worst custom rom. With this epic was never a question...custom rom 30 mins after I got it.
You can always Odin back to stock...but you never will
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I guess I am worried about messing something up, I only started putting custome rom's on My touch Diamond after I knew I was looking for a new phone in the last 3 months. Is there just a bsaic Android 2.2 rom for the Epic, so I could start from scratch with my apps?
I would recommend Bonsai, but they seem to be busy screwing themselves over. Let's just say its a great rom, but they are making some pretty dumb moves in the PR category.
BTW, if there was
literal crap on this device from Sprint
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then you should have contacted the health department.
so i am noticing some of these roms will root for me. I am looking at the bonsai thread, is it an all in one package. i am new to android rooting. i know on winmo i had to first unlock then run a ruu from my desktop.
You can use odin too load pre rooted roms. Which will give u cwm. Then u can change roms at your own discretion with out a pc. Look at the ratings and read the posts before u load a rom. Id also suggest bonsai 4.0 seems to the the most stable. And I have tried all of them.
Unless you do not care about pic msging and gps in which case definately check out cm7 aplha 3. Its androi 2.3 gingerbread .
one more question, if i don't like this how do i go back to stock rom, with winmo i just reflash old one.
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BTW, if there was literal crap on this device from sprint then you should have contacted the health department.
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Thank you for this. My keyboard thanks you for the mountain dew bath.
I have decided I actually like the Samsung ui but I can;t stand how many apps there are, I have 2 freakin Facebook apps because I can't remove the original and the newer one doesn't update the old one. So best thing to do is root and try and remove the stock apps I guess.
I already said this and no one answered. if something goes wrong, how do I go back to stock sprint rom? with winmo i just re run the rom package on my pc.
Just use ODIN. It's always right at the top of the Dev section.
thx, wanted to make sure that is the right thing, like i said i am a nOOb
I was in your shoes a month or so ago.
When I finally had enough time and bravery to mess around with the phone, I rooted and proceeded to brick my phone.
This bricking taught me a valuable lesson and its that the epic is very hard to permantly screw up. I also came from a winmo device before being hogtied and violated from palm and sprints marketin team but wounds healed and feelings of anger and sadness faded away when the epic decended from sprints hallowed halls. (Gg sprint marketing team on another successful campaign...)
Hope isn't lost and I would advise you to become used to your phone with the OTA updates (it should be at ec05) because unless you know what gains you are receiving from flashing a new rom, then it would be a pointless endevor.
Lurk more in the dev forums and play with your phone. If you have a question then ask and hopefully you will find a rom to fit your needs.
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I was rushed and wanted to further clarify a little on what I posted above.
The epic you have now OP should be on 2.2.1 EC05 Froyo if it's not that way now. This is the current update pushed from sprint and I personally had no problems with it. The amount of bloat you see vs the bloat you can't (CIQ...and others *too lazy to google or search*) is a factor to consider while deciding if rooting and customs roms are for you.
I know you mentioned Touchwiz and like you, I enjoy it. Rooting and flashing a rom can remove this but many of the current roms offer a version with TW either as default or baked in. This shouldn't be of concern because you will not notice much difference between stock TW and that provided in a rom other than how "snappy" it is.
I also recommended lurking in the dev forums, and I meant that. I'll look at the first page of a thread such as the ACS rom thread in dev. After seeing what's offered, go to the last page and work backwards, noting any issues or problems people are having. Do understand that people are more likely to post a problem than give praise so do not let those post steer you away, but just use caution and take notice of what's recommended to fix it.
Although this may seem long winded, I feel that a majority of people similer to myself will either conclude that rooting is hard and not mess with it, or become lost in the ever changing acronyms, root utilities, and overall direction to successfully root their device.
What makes matters even worse is that some roms can be so complicated to install and troubleshoot that the information you need to continue isn't already clear enough to you to correctly ask a question or troublesoot. You will see this reflected in post where phones are reurned to the store after it fail to boot.
So to restate what I think would be your best option (and others who find themselves looking to root and flash custom roms), you should lurk and study the dev forums along with general. Make sure current version of froyo is on your device from the OTA update (EC05 is current and you can check by Settings/About Phone/ and scrolling down towards the bottom. Become knowledgeable about what your phone can do, then if you decide that a new rom will make for a richer experience, then follow guides handed down from the roms themselves to help make sure you successfully root and flash your phone.
It can be a headache but it's worth the pain when you finally finish.
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thx, wanted to make sure that is the right thing, like i said i am a nOOb
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jonny4,
I,too, was in your shoes. I registered on this forum just to reply to your post.
I've had my Epic 4G for a little over a month and I've already tried several different kernels and ROMs. I've found that a good resource for learning how to flash your Epic is YouTube. There's a guy on there with the username "randyshear." He had an Epic 4G and made a ton of how-to vids about installing ClockworkMod Recovery, making Nandroid backups, and flashing various ROMs. Before my Epic 4G, I had never had an Android phone, so I was VERY new to the whole thing. Fortunately for us, the phone has been out for a while and many options exist. I recommend checking out randyshear's vids. He posts download links to all the ROMs he tries out. I've been using the Genocide 0.3a kernel that undervolts and overclocks the CPU to 1.2 GHz and I've flashed ViperROM Apocalypse 4.0.4 with EXT4. The phone has never been faster!
Make sure you get ClockworkMod on the phone and make a backup. Also, just to be safe, back up your microSD too. Trust me, once you get the hang of it, it's actually really fun to try out different ROMs to see how your phone responds. Good luck!
EDIT: I recently flashed my Epic with SyndicateROM Frozen 1.1.0 (EC05 Froyo) with the Twilight Zone kernel and I was completely blown away! FASTEST ROM/KERNEL COMBO I have seen yet!
here is basically what i hate. i just killed a bunch of apps and 3, Clock, amazon mp3, and qik video, that I have never used or setup are already running again. It is absolutely stupid that a program that has never been used or setup can run itself, reminds of me of spyware or malware, and because Samsung locks out removing of said apps it is annoying. I would be happy with the basic rom if all these extra apps weren't running or installed. I may try what the first person suggested. I know WinMo had a bunch of crap apps installed in the Sprint rom but at least those did not run on their own. I do appreciate everyones help, really and I guess if I plan on rooting I should probably do it within my return policy.
Okay, so I made the jump from iPhone 4S to SGS3 T-999 at the beginning of September this year and my experience has been less than fun. Disregarding all the hardware issues, as far as software is concerned, I've been spending hours every day trying to find software that works reliably. Here's my rant of the biggest problems right now, if you have any ideas, I'd really appreciate hearing back! I was looking forward to digging into mods/hacks, etc on Android later down the road but with these basic functions that I depend on daily in my phone not there yet, I'm starting to wonder if I need to just switch back to iOS until Android is more developed. I actually used be on Android in the days of the S2 for about 2 months, but had to ultimately switch back to iOS because I simply didn't always have the time to download 20-30 clock apps to find one that works decently or test out mods and hacks for basic functions. Sure, it's fun to test try out mods and such but when your phone feels like it's broken, that's no good.
>Stock camera app doesn't allow taking pictures/video/flash at a certain level of battery. wtf, why samsung?! I have yet to find a camera app that does video/photo as well as the stock camera app.
>Image compression & resize tool for when e-mailing photos/images quickly...like in iOS would be great, or even something that actually works would be better. Note to Samsung--most people don't want or need to get an e-mail of your 8mp picture taken on your cell phone.
>Audiobook player that saves my spot
>Least buggy PDF reader with search, annotations and highlighting
>Tethering that works (no luck so far with fox fi and a few others, I'm using T-mobile MyMonthly 4G)
>File transfer over USB on my Mac (Latest version of lion, macbook pro 2.4ghz c2d pre-unibody)
>Find my iPhone equivalent with a web interface as opposed to just text message operation
>iOS clock app equivalent. I have downloaded probably more than 2 dozen timer/clock/alarm apps and none of them do it all while staying on in the background and not randomly closing. Also would be great if I didn't lose my timer if the app or phone has to be restarted/killed.
>Make a complete backup on my Mac instead of backing it up to my SD card and then having to copy that to my computer.
This list used be a lot longer...but with much sweat I have found some solutions or learned to cope, but not for everything that is vital^...
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Okay, so I made the jump from iPhone 4S to SGS3 T-999 at the beginning of September this year and my experience has been less than fun. Disregarding all the hardware issues, as far as software is concerned, I've been spending hours every day trying to find software that works reliably. Here's my rant of the biggest problems right now, if you have any ideas, I'd really appreciate hearing back! I was looking forward to digging into mods/hacks, etc on Android later down the road but with these basic functions that I depend on daily in my phone not there yet, I'm starting to wonder if I need to just switch back to iOS until Android is more developed. I actually used be on Android in the days of the S2 for about 2 months, but had to ultimately switch back to iOS because I simply didn't always have the time to download 20-30 clock apps to find one that works decently or test out mods and hacks for basic functions. Sure, it's fun to test try out mods and such but when your phone feels like it's broken, that's no good.
>Stock camera app doesn't allow taking pictures/video/flash at a certain level of battery. wtf, why samsung?! I have yet to find a camera app that does video/photo as well as the stock camera app.
>Image compression & resize tool for when e-mailing photos/images quickly...like in iOS would be great, or even something that actually works would be better. Note to Samsung--most people don't want or need to get an e-mail of your 8mp picture taken on your cell phone.
>Audiobook player that saves my spot
>Least buggy PDF reader with search, annotations and highlighting
>Tethering that works (no luck so far with fox fi and a few others, I'm using T-mobile MyMonthly 4G)
>File transfer over USB on my Mac (Latest version of lion, macbook pro 2.4ghz c2d pre-unibody)
>Find my iPhone equivalent with a web interface as opposed to just text message operation
>iOS clock app equivalent. I have downloaded probably more than 2 dozen timer/clock/alarm apps and none of them do it all while staying on in the background and not randomly closing. Also would be great if I didn't lose my timer if the app or phone has to be restarted/killed.
>Make a complete backup on my Mac instead of backing it up to my SD card and then having to copy that to my computer.
This list used be a lot longer...but with much sweat I have found some solutions or learned to cope, but not for everything that is vital^...
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I don't understand what "basic" functions you are having issues with? Other than the camera not working after a certain %, it's not like a PDF reader with annotations and highlighting is a "basic" function.. nor are rely any of the other things on your list except maybe image compression.
That being said, I don't know a camera solution for Touchwiz but on AOSP there are no restrictions to when you can take a picture with regards to battery.
Repligo Reader is a great PDF reader. I don't know about search but I can highlight and annotate.
You need to download the app Android File Transfer to transfer via USB on your Mac.
If you're in Monthly4G, tethering is not included. This is an issue with your plan. If you want to tether, root your phone.
There are plenty of "find my android" apps out there, that work exceptionally well. I use Avast!.
AOSP also has a timer and stopwatch built in, so maybe you should try that.
You cannot backup your phone directly to your computer.
I am more than happy to help you, as I am sure most people here are, but I think you need to lower your expectations on "basic" features..
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You need to download the app Android File Transfer to transfer via USB on your Mac.
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Don't be so sure. I spent an hour trying to get that to work when I first got my phone, gave up and used Airdroid but for the big stuff I have to use my PC.
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Don't be so sure. I spent an hour trying to get that to work when I first got my phone, gave up and used Airdroid but for the big stuff I have to use my PC.
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Well he didn't mention anything about it, so I figured he might not know about it.
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Don't be so sure. I spent an hour trying to get that to work when I first got my phone, gave up and used Airdroid but for the big stuff I have to use my PC.
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Yeah, I spent several hours trying to trouble shoot this and just decided it would be easier to use vmware and try to dig up a copy of windows xp i had lying around...ugh..
joshnichols189: Thank you for your help!
By basic, I guess I wasn't necessarily referring to all stock functions...but on the iPhone I found many apps on the App store that accomplished this task competently. Primarily I used Good reader, but there were others so it seemed like something that wouldn't be difficult to come across. I have found a few apps that provide such a function but end up missing others or are too buggy to use. I will have to check which apps specifically I tried with no success if that will help...will look into Repligo Reader, thanks!
As for tethering: I was able to get it to work on an S2 (i9100) running gingerbread using my MyMonthly4G plan using the native tethering feature. I've rooted my phone sucessfully but haven't gotten around looking into custom roms and such..still using stock (but rooted). If you or anyone here knows any especially good tethering solutions for rooted t-999 users running stock it'd be super helpful to hear.
I will have to do research on AOSP.
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Yeah, I spent several hours trying to trouble shoot this and just decided it would be easier to use vmware and try to dig up a copy of windows xp i had lying around...ugh..
joshnichols189: Thank you for your help!
By basic, I guess I wasn't necessarily referring to all stock functions...but on the iPhone I found many apps on the App store that accomplished this task competently. Primarily I used Good reader, but there were others so it seemed like something that wouldn't be difficult to come across. I have found a few apps that provide such a function but end up missing others or are too buggy to use. I will have to check which apps specifically I tried with no success if that will help...will look into Repligo Reader, thanks!
As for tethering: I was able to get it to work on an S2 (i9100) running gingerbread using my MyMonthly4G plan using the native tethering feature. I've rooted my phone sucessfully but haven't gotten around looking into custom roms and such..still using stock (but rooted). If you or anyone here knows any especially good tethering solutions for rooted t-999 users running stock it'd be super helpful to hear.
I will have to do research on AOSP.
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Be sure to try Repligo, I believe they have a free/lite version! I wasn't able to tether when I was on Monthly4G so maybe it is different now. If you are rooted you should look at the WiFi Tether for Root app. I believe you can find it easily with a Google search. Also be sure to look into AOSP, you might like it more but if not you can always revert!
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Just download wifi tether from play store and that will definitely tether anything you want.
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The camera would need to be modded. Someone will likely do this at some point.
Theres a full office suite on sale for .25 that may take care of your pdfs and then some. OfficeSuite pro.
For file transfers, you can use SGS3 Easy UMS. It only works for external sdcard though. Many people have been trying to do the same for internal but no luck yet as far as I know. Search for it on xda.
Also on file transfering, have you looked at a wireless transfer solution? I use SwiFTP and love it. Gives me access to the entire file system on my phone, including /system.
There are quite a few find my phone types like youre looking for that get good reviews. Check cerebrus. Haven't used it on this phone but liked it in the past.
My favorite alarm clock app is Alarm Clock Plus. Been using it for a few years now. No stopwatch or timer but hoping the dev adds em in the future.
For the backup, are you talking about a nandroid type backup or apps and data? Nandroid, no backing up straight to computer. Im pretty sure there are apps thatll backup your data and apps like that though. Never used any though. (And theres always adb!)
Tip: when people see a thread with this many questions and youre not experiencing a critical problem, it can look a bit overwhelming and seems like you may be demanding answers without really looking for them yourself. (Not saying thats your case and not trying to be an ass). Additionally at first read/glance it looks like it could be a lot of work to help you for what many might consider to be simple problems. In the future dont wait so long and ask everything at once. Ask your questions as they come and you cant find the answers yourself.
I saw your thread when it was first posted but didnt reply because I knew it would take much longer than I could spend at that moment.
One last thing, if people perceive you to be threatening to leave for the iphone if you dont get what you want, you are much less likely to find help now or in the future.
Like I said, im not trying to be an ass or belittle or anything like that. Just telling you what some (many?) people may think when they just glance over your thread.
Sorry for the little rant, but I am trying to help you.
Btw, if you're having such bad hw issues you may have a defective device. Majority of people have no problems.
Good luck!
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Is there an online version of the kitchen? I ask because it is the last resort to get a fully functional Rom on my evo before I allow my daughter to have it other than using my nandroid of my original and unrooting.
I use a 64-bit system Windows 7. Done research and it says a 32-bit Java will work but that is false. I have spent from 9am until an hour ago (3:30pm here now) formating my hard-drive and reinstalled my OS because it didn't work. Still the kitchen doesn't find Java although I tried to instal a 32-bit version. Online is the only way I can do anything or I need a step-by-step on what I need to do to an apk where I can do it on my phone or I am in need of someone building a Rom. So.....is there one online?
What are you doing? Making a fully functional ROM? Why not take a stock rooted or a working GB ROM like reloaded?
Yea just get a stock 5.07 rooted rom. Not really sure what you're trying to do
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I am letting my daughter have my Evo. She has been hardcore blackBerry but given their status she is wanting to try Android. I have flashed every Rom on the first 10 pages of Development and what she has settled on as far as wanting most is Energy Rom. There are 3 problems stopping her from being totally happy with it. First is the 9016. After a lot of searching all I can find is it is tied to the Phone.apk. I have been unsuccessful at changing it out. The carousel shows only a grey screen when looking in Personalize but have been unsuccessful at getting the one from Mik3D installed and working since I know the one from that Rom works. The browser not going to mobile view and being to wide unless in landscape has been the only thing I have fixed. i used Root Explorer and deleted it and moved a basic stock in. Somehow it worked although the other things haven't. I had decided to try my hand at the kitchen to see if I could make the changes that way but it doesn't work on my PC regardless of what i try and believe me when I say I have taken extreme measures to make it work. So my hopes are that either someone can point me in the right direction on how to exchange an apk using only what tools I can find for my phone or in the direction of a kitchen online. For my phone I have installed: Root Explorer,File Manager and ZipSign2.
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I am letting my daughter have my Evo. She has been hardcore blackBerry but given their status she is wanting to try Android. I have flashed every Rom on the first 10 pages of Development and what she has settled on as far as wanting most is Energy Rom. There are 3 problems stopping her from being totally happy with it. First is the 9016. After a lot of searching all I can find is it is tied to the Phone.apk. I have been unsuccessful at changing it out. The carousel shows only a grey screen when looking in Personalize but have been unsuccessful at getting the one from Mik3D installed and working since I know the one from that Rom works. The browser not going to mobile view and being to wide unless in landscape has been the only thing I have fixed. i used Root Explorer and deleted it and moved a basic stock in. Somehow it worked although the other things haven't. I had decided to try my hand at the kitchen to see if I could make the changes that way but it doesn't work on my PC regardless of what i try and believe me when I say I have taken extreme measures to make it work. So my hopes are that either someone can point me in the right direction on how to exchange an apk using only what tools I can find for my phone or in the direction of a kitchen online. For my phone I have installed: Root Explorer,File Manager and ZipSign2.
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She's that picky? Tell her to get an iPhone. LOL
Even she is smart enough to know the first flip phone I ever purchased from Sprint way back when they finally got small enough to fit in your pocket is still better than the best Apple ever released.
However,with a little help I think I can make my life easier. I flashed Derp3D again and only 2 small things needed. First is the keyboard. How do I get the HTC back on and with dictionary? Last is how do I get the weather widget with sound? Those are the only things needed. Themes will be easy enough to handle.
Have you tried MikG v3.11 ? Uber Stable. Has a lot of Themes, and Mods available.
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Have you tried MikG v3.11 ? Uber Stable. Has a lot of Themes, and Mods available.
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The newest Jellybread has the 9016 number blocked, or you can use Go SMS and blacklist it, plus everything else you mentioned works
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The newest Jellybread has the 9016 number blocked, or you can use Go SMS and blacklist it, plus everything else you mentioned works
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+1 on jellybread..its worth a flash..
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I am letting my daughter have my Evo. She has been hardcore blackBerry but given their status she is wanting to try Android. I have flashed every Rom on the first 10 pages of Development and what she has settled on as far as wanting most is Energy Rom. There are 3 problems stopping her from being totally happy with it. First is the 9016. After a lot of searching all I can find is it is tied to the Phone.apk. I have been unsuccessful at changing it out. The carousel shows only a grey screen when looking in Personalize but have been unsuccessful at getting the one from Mik3D installed and working since I know the one from that Rom works. The browser not going to mobile view and being to wide unless in landscape has been the only thing I have fixed. i used Root Explorer and deleted it and moved a basic stock in. Somehow it worked although the other things haven't. I had decided to try my hand at the kitchen to see if I could make the changes that way but it doesn't work on my PC regardless of what i try and believe me when I say I have taken extreme measures to make it work. So my hopes are that either someone can point me in the right direction on how to exchange an apk using only what tools I can find for my phone or in the direction of a kitchen online. For my phone I have installed: Root Explorer,File Manager and ZipSign2.
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The kitchen won't help you for fixing the things you want to fix )besides the fact that there isn't an online version). The kitchen just essentially makes it easier to do the things you're already doing. But EnergyROm is a Sense 3.5 ROM, which is not what the EVO natively comes with. So, there will ALWAYS be issues with it, like the VVM 9016 texts, no 4G, etc. And trying to swap things in from a Sense 3.0 ROM (Mik3D) will only cause more issues. I think you're going to have to "put your foot down" and let your daughter know she can either have a fully functional ROM that doesn't look exactly as she wants, or she can have the eye candy she wants without full functionality.
There are plenty of fully functional ROMs out there with a Sprint base that don't have the 9016 issue. Honestly, those all seem to be extremely minor issues to me. Sounds like you should just bite the bullet and get her an EVO LTE, lol.
I have seen a lot of good reviews of Kendall's ROM, though. But I'm going to assume that's not what your daughter is looking for. Sounds like she likes the look/widgets of Sense.
I remember back in the day I tried a sense 3.0 rom that didn't do the 9016 or whatever, but I don't see how that bugs her. Its just a text message that would only take 2 seconds to delete. When I ran those roms, it wasn't a big deal to me.
With the sense weather part, still didn't have a problem with that either. Just had to turn sound up.
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Back in the day, phones were much more restricted than they are nowadays. Now we have 2.3 ghz quad cores and excellent battery life and lots of features and all sorts of other great stuff.
As the phones get better are you less tempted to root your phone and install custom ROMs?
I know for me when I got my galaxy s3 I didn't root it for a few months. Then when I got my HTC one I was determined not to root it. It was excellent out of the box and I just didn't see a need for it. Untill I started having it not last all day so I rooted to be able to get better battery life. I won't have my note 3 for another week or so because employees aren't allowed to purchase our phones right away for some retarded reason. But just curious if I'm the only one feeling this way, that with phones becoming so much better, its slowly taking away the need for custom ROMs and such.
Personally I still have the need to root because not all phones are updated with official firmware to the latest android version, besides that I often experienced better battery life after rooting (disabling unwanted applications, removing bloatware, using greenify etc)
Yup. Lol idk if Imma root my note. But if I do, it would probably be just to change minor stuff like taking the clock out of the status bar or make it black when it's not transparent. Other than that, I see no reason to root this one as of yet.
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There are really three reasons I root
1. Remove bloat.
2. Adblock hosts file
3. xposed framework.
I think xposed framework does more to eliminate the need for custom roms more than anything.
Same for me I root for 4 reasons:
1. Remove bloat.
2. Block ads.
3. Customize status bar.
4. Better battery life.
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With the Note 3, I have zero incentive to root. I've disabled the apps I don't care about, I have plenty of space for the ones I do, the phone looks and handles like a dream, and performance is blazing. I have zero complaints thus far. I liked Touchwiz with Gingerbread, hated it with ICS, and now I like it again on 4.1.2 and 4.3. Well done, Samsung.
I have always rooted my phone in the first hour of getting them. With the note 3, I have enjoyed the stock use for a 3 days now.
I'm sure it will change and as roms start to poor in but for now I'm ok.
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Of course I still want root. There's so much you can't do without it.
1. Turn the DPI down - I bought a Note because it has a massive and detailed screen. I want to use that screen to fit more stuff on, not have giant letters that offer not much more area than a typical smartphone.
2. Ad blocking. Ads are annoying as can be, so block them system-wide with Ad Away.
3. App management - Delete those obnoxious bloatware apps, delete pointless carrier services, save space, and speed up the phone to its maximum potential
4. File management - Mount Samba shares (Windows file sharing) at defined mount points anywhere on the system, mount NTFS formatted SD card, copy things out of /data and make backups
5. Terminal/System Tools - Log in as root using 'su' and then have access to a privileged command line to run Linux commands. I use openvpn (tap bridging mode) to log into my home network over 4g and that can only be done through root.
6. Custom ROMs - The ultimate end-goal of warranty voiding, I hate TouchWiz and would rather run an AOSP-based ROM like CM or AOKP. These are pre-rooted, give me all of the above options, receive constant updates, are generally less bloated or resource-intensive, adjust to multiple DPI settings a lot better, and are community driven. Also CM has openvpn and NTFS support built in which works really well.
This is my criteria for buying the Note 3. As soon as I can do all of these, mostly the custom ROMs part, I will buy one and flash a ROM. Until then, I love the hardware but my CM10.2 Note i717 is still the winner since it runs software the Note 3 would not out of the box.
For some apps root is required and ASAP is the fastest, plus customization is key. And not great when using TW.
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Root 4 Life
No matter how advanced our phones get I'll always want, and will DEMAND, full root/admin rights to my own device. My primary reasons, in order of importance are similar to the above commenters':
1) AdAway (for system-wide adblocking, from F-Droid.org's opensource repositories, now that it's banned from Play Store)
2) TitaniumBackup (/data/data access)
3) Xposed framework, and the Music2SD module specifically, so I can store all my Google Music on the EXTERNALSD card vs internal (without resorting to symlink or bindmount hacks that sometimes fail)
4) Ability to use GooManager app to easily install TWRP (without odin), to then make full ROM backups, and install CyanogenMod, etc.
5) read/write root access to all areas of my phone via ssh, terminal app, or gui file explorer app.
6) SixAxis support (for the PS3 game controller)
There's other reasons, but those are my top 6 off the top of my head. For most people, AdAway is the Numero Uno, as was actually why my Dad asked me to root his SGS4 while I was visiting him just a week ago.
Why buy a note and use an aosp ROM that doesn't support the spen functions? Or am I missing something and aosp can support s pen?
I used to love ad away.. But ads are what make these apps free... From an app developer point of view, ad blocking isn't all that cool.
I understand the bloat removal and using greenify. Those are the only 2 reasons id see myself using root for on this phone. And maybe also to boost audio. But probably won't.
DPI levels I also agree with. Who from Samsung thought it a good idea to have such a massive screen and only 4 columns for apps? Guy should be fired.
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I used to root all my phones up to S4 which I did not. Got tired of the daily update flashing zip files. I still look at the development threads but, no interest to root. And now with the Knox thingy triggering the counter and triangle away not always working, will pass on rooting. Got to the point of just enjoying the phone and not trying to break what is not broken.
Now, if we get a Cyanogen app that will do all the rooting from beginning to end that is a possibility to root it.
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clninja said:
Why buy a note and use an aosp ROM that doesn't support the spen functions? Or am I missing something and aosp can support s pen?
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On the Note i717 (AT&T Note 1) the S-Pen has been supported since the beginning in CM/AOSP ROMs. You lose the software customizations relating to the S-Pen (gestures, scrap book, S-note/memo, hover-click to screenshot, etc) but the pen itself is still functional. With third-party drawing/note taking apps the S-Pen's button and pressure sensitivity features still work as well. I don't use the software features, just want the ability to draw diagrams and take handwritten notes on occasion, plus be able to use the S-Pen to hover as a mouse on web pages and to tap precisely on remote desktop. It does all of that just fine on CM. I really hope it is the same situation for the Note 3.
I root so I can use Titanium Backup which is faster than using helium and no need for a PC. Also so I can tether.
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As for me, it all started with the Samsung Vibrant. I rooted every phone up to my Note 2. Now, since I own this BEAST of a phone Note 3, I want to wait until the devs figure out how to reset or bypass this new KNOX Samsung security flag.
This stupid KNOX thing worries me. Everywhere I read about it, it's none reversible, it's permanent. Why would Sammy need to know if we rooted our phones?
i doubt rooting will ever go away. two reasons!
1. individual customized taste
2. ciq removal
Reason to Root
I started rooting about 2 years ago when I got my Galaxy Nexus on Verizon. There were issues and updates but it seemed like nothing was ever coming when everyone else got them. I took a chance and rooted so I could install the ICS update that was to fix the issues a lot were having. after a couple of months and still having issues, I took into researching various custom roms and being a tweaker on the computer I thought it would be fun to try it on the phone. I became a regular flasher of sorts trying various roms and from time to time ask and offer help to the wonderful people on this site after seeing there were a lot of other people like me that liked to tinker with their technology. I am no master as a lot on here are but I try to offer suggestions if I have had a similar situation. I research for months when I knew my contract was about to run out and after many months of tinkering, I decided that the issue was with the network and not the phone. I recently purchased a new Note3 and thought I would try T-Mobile for a few days and see what would come of changing. So far I have been really impressed with the phone 'as is' and usually don't want to start tearing down right away (give time for the new to wear off at least) and just in case I decide to return if it doesn't work. I have read on CM that rooting is changing and there should be ways to get what we like in roms and features without the necessity/requirement for root. I would like the option to be able to dual boot so you can keep your stock rom as is and install a custom rom on the sd drive or in a VM environment like you can on a computer.
Like others have mentioned, ad removal is the main reason I always root. Can't stand them. Plus I love trying out new roms.
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Root is a must
It will always be a must to have complete control of phone for full backups of backs via Tbackup I refuse to constantly have to redo app's. Also to use our wonderful xposed modules that work awesome. Also allows my to flash and set permissons. Also allows to be rid of bloat and make full use of phone no need to be tied down. Plus if binary can never be reset then opps broke glass and use insurance if really so worried about the marker.
I've had my Note 3 for 3 days now and have not even thought of rooting it. It's exceptionally fast and I already disabled the boat I don't use. I'm fine where I am for now
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Hello all. I will be returning to a newish epic soon...hella missed this phone. I've got tons of old files from a couple years ago but I assume there has been lots of goodness put together since my epic got trashed. I've read lots of forums, dowloaded some files, yadaya but If there is still anyone out there using or developing for the epic, can you please give me some direction. Best way to root, from what I assume will be a stock phone. (still odin v3+1.85?) Also and more to the point of my question, Roms? Best roms that actually have valid download links? Thank you for your time if anyone actually reads this
darkrelik696 said:
Hello all. I will be returning to a newish epic soon...hella missed this phone. I've got tons of old files from a couple years ago but I assume there has been lots of goodness put together since my epic got trashed. I've read lots of forums, dowloaded some files, yadaya but If there is still anyone out there using or developing for the epic, can you please give me some direction. Best way to root, from what I assume will be a stock phone. (still odin v3+1.85?) Also and more to the point of my question, Roms? Best roms that actually have valid download links? Thank you for your time if anyone actually reads this
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I don't know how much advice I can give about what is "best", but I can tell you what I am still using on my "daily driver"...?
I try to keep up with the CM11 "Nightlies", and so right now I'm using the latest: cm-11-20150614-NIGHTLY-epicmtd.zip
The kernel (?) I'm using: notest-epicmtd-kk4-20140401-cma.zip
I make use of Link2SD app as far as juggling space for apps.
Somewhere along the way, the stock Android Messaging app just stopped working correctly for me (couldn't compose a new message - just greyed out - never could figure out what was wrong), so I've "Frozen" the stock Messaging app and installed the (almost identical) SoftCoil Messaging app.
The stock Android browser did not seem to perform very well for me, so I went looking for a "lighter footprint" browser - right now I am trying out the "UC Mini" browser, and so far so good (?) although I still don't rely on using the browser that much, so maybe I haven't done solid testing of it...
I'm not a super-whiz at this, but if there's anything I can answer to help, I'll try. Maybe you'll have some ideas or find out some things that are more up-to-date than what I'm doing...?
Glad to see I'm not the only one posting in this "Ghost Town" these days...
(Although to be honest, I did just get the letter from Sprint about the discontinuation of the WiMax network... so the months are ticking away as for how long I will stick with this, too... soon as I buy a new phone for my lady, I will probably inherit her Nexus 4 and finally say goodbye to the beloved Epic 4G...)
Thank you very much for taking the time to share that info with me. I just got my new Epic about 20 min ago and can't wait to get some CM goodness going. I really didn't expect a reply to this at all so thank you again. I'll post again if I come across something worth sharing.
Oh also give puffin browser a try, I use it on my Tab 2 and its pretty damn fast!
Arson Smith said:
I don't know how much advice I can give about what is "best", but I can tell you what I am still using on my "daily driver"...?
I try to keep up with the CM11 "Nightlies", and so right now I'm using the latest: cm-11-20150614-NIGHTLY-epicmtd.zip
The kernel (?) I'm using: notest-epicmtd-kk4-20140401-cma.zip
I make use of Link2SD app as far as juggling space for apps.
Somewhere along the way, the stock Android Messaging app just stopped working correctly for me (couldn't compose a new message - just greyed out - never could figure out what was wrong), so I've "Frozen" the stock Messaging app and installed the (almost identical) SoftCoil Messaging app.
The stock Android browser did not seem to perform very well for me, so I went looking for a "lighter footprint" browser - right now I am trying out the "UC Mini" browser, and so far so good (?) although I still don't rely on using the browser that much, so maybe I haven't done solid testing of it...
I'm not a super-whiz at this, but if there's anything I can answer to help, I'll try. Maybe you'll have some ideas or find out some things that are more up-to-date than what I'm doing...?
Glad to see I'm not the only one posting in this "Ghost Town" these days...
(Although to be honest, I did just get the letter from Sprint about the discontinuation of the WiMax network... so the months are ticking away as for how long I will stick with this, too... soon as I buy a new phone for my lady, I will probably inherit her Nexus 4 and finally say goodbye to the beloved Epic 4G...)
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Howdie!
I see you are one of the last people in this forum actively doing things. If I have an old Epic lying around that I want to use as a gaming only system--doesn't need any phone support, which is the most stable rom for that feature? I'm not looking to strip a carrier radio out or anything, just don't care if works or not, I plan to disable everything but wifi.
Suggestions--if you don't mind?
TIA