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So, what do you think about this battle?) Who'll win?
The only things that I don't like in N1 are: display with strange colour rendition, camera which is pink maniak (hey, like pink panther) and silent ring.
Will these thing be removed in HTC Desire?
Or maybe it's better to wait for Samsung Wave (super AMOLED display, but strange OS)
Honestly the Desire imo, fm radio, wm playback and ram/rom are just a few of the things that make it ahead of the N1 for me.
For me, the N1 is clearly the better Phone with the Noice Cancellation and way faster Software/Firmware-Support from Google.
I will never again use a Phone with Sense because of the lazy HTC-Support.
I believe the Community-Support will be much better for the N1, just look whats done so far. It was a nice Idea from Google to gave the N1 to many Android-Software-Developres for free.
And my personal Opinion: I couldnt believe my eyes when i saw a picture from the Desire at MWC. It looks much cheaper in real life than on the leaked Promo-Shots from last year. For me, the N1 looks better.
Currently have a N1, but "broke" it (still working, apart from few sensors),
with the insurance money, I will buy a Desire, since it will be available here.
No contenst unless theyll start also selling N1 straight to Finland.
HW buttons are better, going to miss notification led thou. And will cry if fastboot unlock is disabled.
i prefer Desire,because i don't like N1's track-ball....
Desire ROM on Nexus hardware
Get the best of both the worlds
It's not a case of which one is better, the desire will sell more purely because it's avaliable in store and it's avaliable on all 5 UK Networks.
People can walk into a store not knowing who HTC are and walk out with a Desire, for the Nexus you have to be specifically wanting the Nexus and then go online and pay a lot of money to get one shipped over.
Same screen as nexus?
Wonder if it will have the same screen as nexus ... if so that will suck.
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2010/02/the-nexus-ones-dirty-display-secret/
Is it common for people to remove the sense UI from android phones and run a more stock style android interface? Is this easily done with a phone like the Desire in the near future? Im on WinMo now with my Raph/Fuze and just tired of dealing with the HTC interface, hate windows too. Been using the android port for the last few months and love it. Im just stuck trying to decide between getting a nexus or the Desire whenever it will be available in the states. Plus i dont want the Sense UI, thats my main concern with the Desire.
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Is it common for people to remove the sense UI from android phones and run a more stock style android interface? Is this easily done with a phone like the Desire in the near future? Im on WinMo now with my Raph/Fuze and just tired of dealing with the HTC interface, hate windows too. Been using the android port for the last few months and love it. Im just stuck trying to decide between getting a nexus or the Desire whenever it will be available in the states. Plus i dont want the Sense UI, thats my main concern with the Desire.
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What are your reasons for not wanting Sense UI?
I'm thinking the desire may be better quality build (minus the dust prob and hardware buttons which some may view as a plus or minus, I having lived with capacitive buttons for a year, despise them). Although I would much prefer the option to have either sense or the standard android, and as I'm not familiar with android and their homescreens, is this possible on a stock desire rom?
From what I can tell, sense is mostly just a theme along with widgets, so change the theme and then don't use the widgets right?
It's 99% Likely you'll be able to flash stock 2.1 android... A Nexus one rom, providing you root
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It's 99% Likely you'll be able to flash stock 2.1 android... A Nexus one rom, providing you root
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Yea, not sure i'd want to root, already been down that path with my blackstone. hmmmm.......
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Yea, not sure i'd want to root, already been down that path with my blackstone. hmmmm.......
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Technically you should just be able to install Launcher2.apk and switch between Sense home and Stock Android Home. Although you'd still have all the Sense apps ie contacts etc but you'd be able to replace these too.
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What are your reasons for not wanting Sense UI?
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Well i have not actually used Sense, just some of the Roms on my Fuze that try to mimic it. It might just be the Windows Mobile underlying that makes me hate the HTC skin, im just annoyed with it all. Using the stock android on my phone, even with the odd glitches here and there due to the early port, leaves me feeling much more free and happier with my phone.
I'm thinking nexus, purely as I don't want to root my device (hehehe root my device.....)
Although I do prefer the optical trackpad and the hardware buttons.......grrr hard decisions...
For me, it will come down to which one I can get AT&T 3G on. The phones are almost identical, and I will surely root/flash it, so the stock ROM won't matter. I do think the Nexus looks better, and will probably get better support from Google.
Motoroi is looking better than both at the moment though......except of course looks lol. But with hdmi out, 720p recording and 8mp camera with xenon flash.....v.nice! Wonder if they seriously think a 550mhz chip will suffice though?
htc Desire^^ because I dont like the trackball, and I LOVE the Sense UI
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Motoroi is looking better than both at the moment though......except of course looks lol. But with hdmi out, 720p recording and 8mp camera with xenon flash.....v.nice! Wonder if they seriously think a 550mhz chip will suffice though?
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Just looked up the Motoroi for the 1st time... looks kinda pathetic next to the Desire and Nexus..
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=2067&id2=2251&id3=2218
Does anyone have the MeeGo rom for HTC Desire ? i just saw a dutch site with a video with Desire running MeeGo
http://www.htcdesireblog.nl/video/htc-desire-draait-op-meego-rom/
afaik there isnt a single nokia out with meego OS on it, nor will it be this year
i seriously doubt thats meego running - more like some chinese copycat OS?
more info here: h ttp://wiki.meego.com/ARM/MSMQSD
Wow, looks just like an ugly custom themed android!
Has anyone tried this in person? Seems pretty slow atm, but I think Meego will turn out pretty awesome
Also, how do I install it? Just flash it?
Anybody working From XDA
After watching NOKIA N9 OS i desperately want that on my DESIRE
i found this Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtnfHNjcdzg
any update what is working or not???
i was about to start new thread on XDA but someone has already made googling always help
but thats not the same OS running on the N9. the version shown in the video looks like an android clone. The N9 runs MeeGo "Harmattan" 1.2
would love to get it on my desire. or maybe I'm getting the N9, as I can pick a new phone by january
I wonder if meego can really run in Desire without any problems.
I would also want to try it on my Desire if it can run perfectly
I am planning to get a new phone in summer next year, I believe Desire has served me long enough till then (2 years) let see what I can find and afford at that time.
I think it'll run on a desire. The N9 is not a dual core monster and the OS doesnt look like its stuffed with too many things (unlike sense).
Looking forward to the release
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meh, that meego thing looks really slow and poorly optimised.. can almost guarantee it would be really crap on the desire.. and wouldn't even come close to the versatility of android...
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meh, that meego thing looks really slow and poorly optimised.. can almost guarantee it would be really crap on the desire.. and wouldn't even come close to the versatility of android...
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I also dont see what people like about this meego either. Android all the way
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I also dont see what people like about this meego either. Android all the way
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It is not about meego, WP7 or android...it is about the flashing addiction...perhaps we can flash meego too....LOL
Why do you need meego, when we got experienced developper porting and developping Sense 2.1 and 3.0 rom like InsertCoin for our Desire !
If you just want to flash to flash well...
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Why do you need meego, when we got experienced developper porting and developping Sense 2.1 and 3.0 rom like InsertCoin for our Desire !
If you just want to flash to flash well...
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I also dont see what people like about this meego either. Android all the way
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Because MeeGo is more open source than Android in several aspects. MeeGo is more like a typical linux distribution, without dalvik or that ****s. MeeGo can run Linux and Android application with minimal efforts, and of course, it's uses gnome libs and QT on Top to provide a very nicely user experience... Android is based on linux, but it took a different way, too different, and I think it is a wrong desicion.
I have to admit I really like Meego, but still prefer Android. And on Desire? No way..
how to flash it?
where i can fine meego image and for comile kernel desire for support desire ?
http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/MSMQSD#HTC_Desire
Very early , nothing works yet not even touchscreen, plus I think you'll have to compile the kernel yourself
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So what do you guys think? Would you use webOS on your shiny gnex if it was made available?
Since HP announced the release of the webOS source code, the recently abandoned operating system has grown a rather loyal following. Progress has been made in homebrew development and in custom builds for webOS native devices. Many forum members have been clamoring for a port of webOS to Android devices for several months now. Initial ports were expected to appear for the Motorola Droid or its GSM counterpart, the Milestone, since the devices share the same OMAP3 3430 processor with the Palm Pre (the very first native webOS device).
Recently an HTC EVO 3D was spotted running a build of webOS 3.0, the version that came with the notorious HP TouchPad. Originally posted by Ryan Hope (@_puffthemagic_) on Twitter, the 3 still images of webOS running have now been supplemented with a YouTube video that can be found here. While not functional enough for actual use, the operating system boots without issue. Ryan originally started work on the port before HP released the source code for webOS. With the release of both the Android kernel and the full webOS source porting progress can only move forward from here. Could this mean widespread availability of webOS ports on Android devices soon? Depending on interest level and developer involvement, it is a possibility!
If webOS is of interest to you don’t forget to check out our webOS forum section here. Want to get involved? Developers and *nix experts, check out the webOS Software and Hacking section here!
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No
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I'd definitely try it out for kicks, webOS was a great OS. The only problem is it was great. It's outdated now with a huge lack of apps. There's already an open source project with Android, and it's backed by a huge company. WebOS will be purely community driven with people working on it in their spare time or just for proof of concepts.
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I'd definitely try it out for kicks, webOS was a great OS. The only problem is it was great. It's outdated now with a huge lack of apps. There's already an open source project with Android, and it's backed by a huge company. WebOS will be purely community driven with people working on it in their spare time or just for proof of concepts.
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Same here. I'd say it has great potential. Now that it is opensource more developers will consider it as a viable app platform.
NO...I had a Pre Plus since it launched. First things first, it did have potential, webOS that is, if only devs would focus on it to bring iOS and Android apps. Secondly, the phone itself made me hate webOS and I doubt I will ever consider going back to a webOS device/phone.
WebOS was superb for its time. But the problem is it has not grown with new competitive features and additions like android and iOS has. Its been starved and abandoned, so it will never achieve parity with android.
I'd like to dualboot webOS, or even temporarily flash it. I never got to play with wOS, but i'd like to.
no way
the maturity level is too far behind android.
webOS is awesome. but circumstances -- bad hardware & worse marketing --> low user base --> no apps -- doomed it.
sad story. i liked it a lot.
I don't even use WebOS on my HP Touchpad, no way I'd put it on my Galaxy Nexus or any Android device.
The OS is nice, but without apps WebOS gets boring real quick. And I kinda like having home screens anyway.
ICS for sure.
I wouldn't mind running a webos UI over android but webos by itself is a no from me.
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I have an old phone I am not using that currently has an ICS rom on it, but if someone were to make a rom for it, I'd probably throw it on there to see what all the fuss is about webOS but more than likely remove it and put back ICS on it.
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So what do you guys think? Would you use webOS on your shiny gnex if it was made available?
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I loled. That's like using a v dub engine in a space ship.
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No. Feature set is no longer competitive and app ecosystem is far behind.
That said, Android was in the same boat but I loved it and the G1 anyway.
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You know what would be great? If someone developed a way for android apps to run on webOS. Similiar to what BB is doing for the playbook. It wouldn't be perfect ofcourse, but still a nice compromise.
If WebOS had two years more development then maybe but ICS is just light years away.
It wasn't the hardware lagging webos. Great concept very poor implementation which is why it failed.
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It wasn't the hardware lagging webos. Great concept very poor implementation which is why it failed.
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Well that's the whole reason opensource webos is interesting: now it won't be limited to crappy hardware from palm and hp.
Is this a joke thread?
WebOS was good but its OLD.
Thats like asking if I'd like to have my bluray player hooked up to a CRT LMAO.
ICS is the lastest and greatest high end OS on a high end device. You don't mix new tech with old software haha
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Is this a joke thread?
WebOS was good but its OLD.
Thats like asking if I'd like to have my bluray player hooked up to a CRT LMAO.
ICS is the lastest and greatest high end OS on a high end device. You don't mix new tech with old software haha
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Come on... How long ago did HP Touchpad came out? 6 months ago?
And when the developers have the source they can improve it and make it much better.
As many of you may have noticed, google android gave excellent news for L (4.5 or 5.0) has a new interface, new keyboard, ART runtime, Project Volta and endless deployments to the system, from my point of view, this will be, so far, the update with more changes to date, and I see a great future in android.
Q - What is your opinion about this update?
Q - Our Optimus G will be able to get this update? (Obviously not by LG)
I make this post since no one around here seems excited as I am
Write your review below :highfive:
Sorry my bad english, I'm using the google translator
i think its a really good update, the change from android 2.3 to 4.0 was good but android 4.0 was sad too much black, too serious. this version reminds me of samsung : childlish colors, big things... i would like a more serious os but whatev... im really excited about that update i think its gonna be good, I want it!
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i think its a really good update, the change from android 2.3 to 4.0 was good but android 4.0 was sad too much black, too serious. this version reminds me of samsung : childlish colors, big things... i would like a more serious os but whatev... im really excited about that update i think its gonna be good, I want it!
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that's true, black is not it look bad, but bored after a while, for me, the new look is "solid", and most of all simple, I'm excited, because maybe, improving performance and the battery life due to ART, is significantly better than kitkat
There is also a reason y black has been chosen..to reduce t battry consumption...also it wrks well in case of amoled screens...
I like the L look but I also like the new LG interface from the G3. Remember you will get most of the L features as updated Google apps roll out. Once the Nexus 4 has this update it will be pretty straightforward to get it on the Optimus G. But I think the best solution for this phone will be: official KK, root and theme to get G3 features, and use the redesigned Google apps as they come out.
I'm expecting CM12 late this year. The new UI looks great.
Surprised to see so many excited for ART.
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But I think the best solution for this phone will be: official KK, root and theme to get G3 features, and use the redesigned Google apps as they come out.
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Absolutely agree with this. I'd say not necessarily the official KK, but stock-based, like Sling or VDT. Personally, I don't like the L look, from what I've seen. Some components are just plain ugly, for example, the keyboard. To each their own, I guess...
As for ART, the dealbreaker for me is Xposed. When it starts supporting ART, it will make sense to upgrade. Until then, no.
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There is also a reason y black has been chosen..to reduce t battry consumption...also it wrks well in case of amoled screens...
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Well, for LCD screens, the difference is very marginal, if not negligible, since the backlight is the main power sucker. Only AMOLED will give you a measureable power saving when using black.
I hope Android L, as I read in the forum the nexus 5, the battery life has drastically improved, 2h SOT (Screen on Time) to 4 + to some users says 7 hours of screen time
and overall performance is more buttery and solid
I'm excited, hopefully developers porting nexus 4 to achieve, then our talented developers can port it to Optimus G
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I love the professional UI. I'd love to have a stock Android L experience if it ever comes to O.G
In my opinion the core experience and visual changes are improvements and to the regular Joe they might seem ok but I'm concerned about the hability we will have to modify this new version. Seems to me Google is locking it Down some to make it more "secure" and now it will be using Knox tech on that front. If we start getting qFuses ala Samsung we are going to have a hard time modding out devices it's not going to be impossible but very hard. Look at the Verizon and AT&T latest Samsung Models, they just now got rooted and beyond rooting custom roms might be possible but kernels and recoverys will be very very hard with the locked Boot loaders. And Google now wants to be like Apple and lock it all down. That part I don't like.
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No, they may want to lock the source. Tho, you can run any modification you want, if you know how to do it. In 1.5 it was a hell harder than it is today. So seeing people complaining about being hard to put a mod because you have to move stuff through folders, give permissions, and use a terminal, make me incredible nervous.
Still, I highly doubt they will lock the source. Android growns due the freedom of its open source. So no, it will stay opened, what the OEMs does is problem of the dumb people who gets their devices because they want a trademark logo instead of a good device.
Android L is like a revolution upgrade, not by looks, by the API's they put in it & ART will be default.
As a android developer I'm really surprise how much easier some API's have become, and ART is a big deal in developing for android.
Can't wait to start using those API's.
Q: Will LG release Android L for our E975?
If so I'm stick with this phone, love the Optimus UI, its really easy to use.
else have to buy a Nexus or G2 or G3.
Gilbert_Sarip said:
Android L is like a revolution upgrade, not by looks, by the API's they put in it & ART will be default.
As a android developer I'm really surprise how much easier some API's have become, and ART is a big deal in developing for android.
Can't wait to start using those API's.
Q: Will LG release Android L for our E975?
If so I'm stick with this phone, love the Optimus UI, its really easy to use.
else have to buy a Nexus or G2 or G3.
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Well, i think our Optimus G officialy die with KitKat 4.4.2, i don't believe that LG will update our device to Android L, or almost near in the future.
RIP Optimus G with Official updates, now its only on the hands of the developers!
Javier_Vzla said:
Well, i think our Optimus G officialy die with KitKat 4.4.2, i don't believe that LG will update our device to Android L, or almost near in the future.
RIP Optimus G with Official updates, now its only on the hands of the developers!
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Am I the only one who doesn't really like the new UI? I didn't even like the Kitkat UI tho, so incosistent.
Galileo said:
Am I the only one who doesn't really like the new UI?
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Are you talking about the L? Then no, you are not the only one... I find some new functionality quite impressive, but the UI is just ugly (to my taste). Also, can't understand what the big deal is about the new animations, shadows, etc. (basically, the whole Material Design thing)...
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Are you talking about the L? Then no, you are not the only one... I find some new functionality quite impressive, but the UI is just ugly (to my taste). Also, can't understand what the big deal is about the new animations, shadows, etc. (basically, the whole Material Design thing)...
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Happy to get the regular ART, but Android L is just to a version to sent older smartie's into retirement. Will see how CM's work is done with L. Don't think L is featured that well. Just to make it compatible to Wear and TV and so on ? Do I have to buey a new TV now ? For what ? Don't see serious graphical improvements. But everyone has his own opinion.
For me it is just creating a hug bubble with nothing serious in it.
Regards.
Mike
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Happy to get the regular ART, but Android L is just to a version to sent older smartie's into retirement. Will see how CM's work is done with L. Don't think L is featured that well. Just to make it compatible to Wear and TV and so on ? Do I have to buey a new TV now ? For what ? Don't see serious graphical improvements. But everyone has his own opinion.
For me it is just creating a hug bubble with nothing serious in it.
Regards.
Mike
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It has a lot of new features. Some even from PA. Paranoid Android devs themselves loved L because is finally getting where they wanted it to be. Also, I loved the UI, looks better, tho as I'm a oem firmware lover since my Xperia s, it may have helped a lot. Never liked stock aosp Ui anyway.
I don't like the new UI either. It's more like a custom launcher than a standard one for daily use.
IMO I think the new Material Design looks pretty cool. Features like lock screen notifications are also long overdue
I've been following the porting of Android L in the nexus 4 and almost ready, but missing some details, I wonder if there will be some developer who carries the Optimus G, after completion of porting this
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I have seen many custom roma for phones but i haven't seen iOS 13 running on Android, I know it's possible back in days I ran iOS 10 on old Samsung phone after install specific iOS rom from a developer,
But i was wondering installing iOS rom will a lot of fun especially when u carry android phone, but sadly no one is working on that, u can use e theme but its in not good,
Do someone know Abt any rom which is Available for Android
By iOS you mean an android rom with an iOS theme?
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I have seen many custom roma for phones but i haven't seen iOS 13 running on Android, I know it's possible back in days I ran iOS 10 on old Samsung phone after install specific iOS rom from a developer,
But i was wondering installing iOS rom will a lot of fun especially when u carry android phone, but sadly no one is working on that, u can use e theme but its in not good,
Do someone know Abt any rom which is Available for Android
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Please. Shut the hell up..
Dude!!!! iOS is COLSED SOURCE
Habeebi said:
I have seen many custom roma for phones but i haven't seen iOS 13 running on Android, I know it's possible back in days I ran iOS 10 on old Samsung phone after install specific iOS rom from a developer,
But i was wondering installing iOS rom will a lot of fun especially when u carry android phone, but sadly no one is working on that, u can use e theme but its in not good,
Do someone know Abt any rom which is Available for Android
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I guess you've lived in a cave for many years XD have a bit of reading https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ho...is-closed-but-what-does-that-mean-to-you/amp/
iOS is not open source and may have compatibility issues with android hardware. And besides its impossible to port ios to android.
As many others have pointed out, iOS is closed source; I get the feeling that whatever OP installed on his phone wasn't actually iOS but rather a heavily modified custom Android ROM.