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I'm looking for any ideas for the problem I'm having on my G2. I'm afraid it's a hardware problem and not much I can do about it.
I started having problems after upgrading from CM 7.1 to 7.2, but I don't think it was related to the upgrade. I started having battery draining problems, the phone took forever to get fully charged, and car mode would automatically start sometimes when plugging up or unplugging the charger. I cleaned the usb port with alcohol (with battery removed), let dry, and restarted. Now I don't have the car mode problem and the battery problem is somewhat better.
My problem now is that the phone will just die when I'm using it. Usually when I'm using the browser. I'll be scrolling on a page and the phone will just turn itself off. Like the battery died. I can turn the phone back on and it will start up, get all the way started back up, but while it is still loading the home screen widgets, it will go off again. I can repeat this several times. The only way to recover is to plug in the charger. I don't have to hit the power button again, just plugging in the charger will start up recovery mode automatically, I'll choose reboot and the phone will start normally then and stay on.
The phone never dies when I'm not using it. I'll carry it all day, making phone calls on and off, and it'll stay on with no problem. Mostly, I only have the problem when using the browser. Also had the problem while using my newsreader. Once during playing a game. But if I start up browsing the internet, it doesn't take long before it will turn itself off. A matter of a couple of minutes. I don't have the problem with reading emails with K9. Don't have a problem in downloading from the internet such as podcasts. Don't have a problem in sending text messages. Don't recall it shutting down while using the Facebook app. After putting up with this for a week, some troubleshooting and observations.
I never have this problem if the charger is plugged in. Only when it is running fully from the battery.
I've tried swapping to a different battery.
Turned down the overclocking with no difference.
I've changed to other recoveries, CM 7.2, CM 7.1, a CM 7.1 that I was running in May. No difference.
I've swapped memory cards.
I've reset battery stats.
No difference if running on wifi or just data.
Clearing caches made no difference.
So, I start thinking it must be a hardware problem, but then why does it only crop up when internet browsing. Must be power related since plugging in the charger makes it go away, but why does it not have a problem with using the phone in other ways?
Any suggestions on what I could try?
You could try to see if there is too much voltage drop when you start something power-hungry. Use a battery voltage logger and post the results. Start logging, let the phoneidle for a minute and then start browsing. Even if the phone shut off, the log should still be there after rebooting.
Thanks for the idea. I can't locate a logger that looks like it would work. It would have to capture a quick drop in voltage that is momentary. This problem happens even on a full battery and when the phone come back on (either momentarily or after a recovery reboot) the battery level is unchanged.
You might try as well an other way: first idle, then gradually step up to a more power hungry app to see when the problem actually happens. I have no other ideas...
Make sure that you dont have any contact with the battery and the door.
Normally batteries are covered with an aluminum wrap, and can cause short-cuts with the phone itself.
I searched it for a while with the galilio batteries.
You can try to put some saranhwrap around the battery.
I have the same problem with two different batteries. But I'm ready to try that too.
Battery graph
So here's a graph of my battery status. Long time to charge to 100%. Discharges pretty rapidly. Each downturn ends in the phone turning itself off. Notice that at 7:30 today, it turned itself off, I did a recovery reboot, then noticed it wasn't charging very well (green line turns to blue but doesn't increase), then I did a manual reboot and when the phone restarted, it showed the battery was at 100% charge (from about 60% before the reboot).
What do you think - hardware or software?
oVeRdOsE. said:
Make sure that you dont have any contact with the battery and the door.
Normally batteries are covered with an aluminum wrap, and can cause short-cuts with the phone itself.
I searched it for a while with the galilio batteries.
You can try to put some saranhwrap around the battery.
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Well, I just took the cover off for awhile and tried it. Played crosswords (Shortz) for awhile with no problems. Started my newsreader (Newsrob) and it shut itself off in about 15 seconds. So, no short to the battery cover.
Same thing is happening to me. I use poweramp or the browser and the G2 just shuts off. Then I restart it and it tells me that the battery is low. Once I shut it down and reboot in recovery and wipe the battery cache it's back to it's normal battery level. I disabled data and set my phone for 2G networks only and it didn't shut off after. I'm assuming this is a wireless issue? I'm running mimicry 1.3.0 on my G2.
Had the same problem. Swapped out batteries and problem gone.
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Did you swap the battery and immediately have no further problems? I tried swapping my battery already and still have the same problem.
I'm having a problem with my Samsung Galaxy S3 (rooted, but no custom ROM) through AT&T where it's losing battery power at a much higher rate than normal every once in a while.
Specifically, today, I was using the GPS feature and charging it in my car, and yet, even though it said it was charging, the battery continued to lose charge. Also, in the past, the phone has lost charge very quickly, and when I check the battery usage, "Android System" is very high on the list, up to 60% (with "Screen" being at 11%, which is usually the biggest culprit for me since I leave the screen on a lot). One time, I went to bed at around midnight and had forgotten to plug in my phone. When I woke up it was off. I turned it back on and looked at the battery stats using 3c's Battery Monitor Widget and saw that it lost charge quite slowly until about 5am, when suddenly the usage went up dramatically, and the phone went from about 60% to 0% in the course of an hour and a half of non-use.
Because this is not a problem I can reproduce on command, I'm not sure exactly what application/process is causing it. Does anyone have any suggestions or has anyone else experienced things like this happening before? (Besides me having to pay for the "betterbatterystats" app?)
Edit: Also, "Android System" sometimes is sometimes listed as "gsiff_daemon" in the battery stats, and within 3c's Battery Monitor Widget, Android System is separate from "gsiff_daemon", where gsiff_daemon's usage is almost 15 times the usage of Android System.
Checkout this thread to see if the gsiff_daemon is your problem. tl;dr when the system is hot and tearing through the battery, go to system settings -> Developer options -> and check Show CPU usage. If gsiff_daemon is the top or second highest on the list, then that is your problem. To solve it for the moment, use system tuner, or something else, to kill gsiff_daemon. There is no permanent cure at the moment, other than to delete gsiff_daemon. Both of those fixes require root, the non-root fix is to reboot.
If gsiff_daemon is not on the list, then something else is the problem, but Show CPU Usage should give you an idea of what system process is running hard.
Samsung Push problem
J M L,
Thanks for the information. I'll do that if the problem arises again. However I also did something else that looks like it may have been the solution for my particular problem, which was disabling the "Samsung Push" service in the Application Manager. So far, my battery life has gone back down to very reasonable levels.
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J M L,
Thanks for the information. I'll do that if the problem arises again. However I also did something else that looks like it may have been the solution for my particular problem, which was disabling the "Samsung Push" service in the Application Manager. So far, my battery life has gone back down to very reasonable levels.
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Interesting, I installed "micro cpu monitor" shows thin line at top of screen showing both cores.
I haven't had this happen for some time now but after playing with google play and maps downloading offline maps etc I noticed my 2nd core pegged out.
Having seen this in the past & ignoring it I now realize that majorly drains the battery as well as it getting warm.
A simple reboot seems to be the only thing that fixes it. Clearing ram and closing recent screens dies nothing to clear the "cpu jam".
If left alone, it always shows the culprit as "android system"
As to what part of "android system" I don't know.
But until we figure this out for good, that little micro cpu monitor. App is sweet for peace of mind to know all is well or whether a reboot is needed. For what it's worth, I also noticed that after the event, that my auto rotate to landscape was mysteriously unchecked?
If it jams again, I'll have to see if it gets unchecked again, unknown if there is a relation.
dansushi said:
I'm having a problem with my Samsung Galaxy S3 (rooted, but no custom ROM) through AT&T where it's losing battery power at a much higher rate than normal every once in a while.
Specifically, today, I was using the GPS feature and charging it in my car, and yet, even though it said it was charging, the battery continued to lose charge. Also, in the past, the phone has lost charge very quickly, and when I check the battery usage, "Android System" is very high on the list, up to 60% (with "Screen" being at 11%, which is usually the biggest culprit for me since I leave the screen on a lot). One time, I went to bed at around midnight and had forgotten to plug in my phone. When I woke up it was off. I turned it back on and looked at the battery stats using 3c's Battery Monitor Widget and saw that it lost charge quite slowly until about 5am, when suddenly the usage went up dramatically, and the phone went from about 60% to 0% in the course of an hour and a half of non-use.
Because this is not a problem I can reproduce on command, I'm not sure exactly what application/process is causing it. Does anyone have any suggestions or has anyone else experienced things like this happening before? (Besides me having to pay for the "betterbatterystats" app?)
Edit: Also, "Android System" sometimes is sometimes listed as "gsiff_daemon" in the battery stats, and within 3c's Battery Monitor Widget, Android System is separate from "gsiff_daemon", where gsiff_daemon's usage is almost 15 times the usage of Android System.
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That happened to me too. But for me, flashing another rom fixed it.
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Thread hijack! Lol. Anyways. Is cell standby supposed to use up a crap load of battery too?
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Swaggernaut said:
Thread hijack! Lol. Anyways. Is cell standby supposed to use up a crap load of battery too?
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No there is a cwm flashable fix floating around here for that
Galaxy SIII via XDA premium
do any of you guys have the "increase volume in pocket" setting on in phone-->settings?
also do any of you have motion settings enabled and/or autorotation on?
Seems it has to do with the gyro issue
also are you guys rooted or non-rooted?
Contact sync?
i noticed this today and while troubleshooting, noticed contact sync from google says "sync is currently experiencing problems..." maybe?
dansushi said:
I'm having a problem with my Samsung Galaxy S3 (rooted, but no custom ROM) through AT&T where it's losing battery power at a much higher rate than normal every once in a while.
Specifically, today, I was using the GPS feature and charging it in my car, and yet, even though it said it was charging, the battery continued to lose charge. Also, in the past, the phone has lost charge very quickly, and when I check the battery usage, "Android System" is very high on the list, up to 60% (with "Screen" being at 11%, which is usually the biggest culprit for me since I leave the screen on a lot). One time, I went to bed at around midnight and had forgotten to plug in my phone. When I woke up it was off. I turned it back on and looked at the battery stats using 3c's Battery Monitor Widget and saw that it lost charge quite slowly until about 5am, when suddenly the usage went up dramatically, and the phone went from about 60% to 0% in the course of an hour and a half of non-use.
Because this is not a problem I can reproduce on command, I'm not sure exactly what application/process is causing it. Does anyone have any suggestions or has anyone else experienced things like this happening before? (Besides me having to pay for the "betterbatterystats" app?)
Edit: Also, "Android System" sometimes is sometimes listed as "gsiff_daemon" in the battery stats, and within 3c's Battery Monitor Widget, Android System is separate from "gsiff_daemon", where gsiff_daemon's usage is almost 15 times the usage of Android System.
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I read the thread about gsiff_daemon culprit. I had it listed as a possible battery drain culprit. The thread says the issue may happen after a hot reboot...which I did have. Killing gsiff_daemon was not immediately effective. I renamed the file so it wouldn't get used...like the thread recommended. I had to reboot to get normal battery drain back and have yet to see the issue again. But i wont know for some time...or maybe when/if i get a hot reboot...which is really rare. Do yourself a favor, and buy better battery stats. Its a must have tool...and it's not expensive.
I wonder if this problem has been solved with latest lj7 jellybean from sprint
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so with some trial and error i found some resolutions ..
first, i used Watchdog and it told me that the media services is killing battery too.
so doing a full wipe does not always fix this.. but what does, is reboot and wait about 1 hour charging and it will calm down. this was just something i noticed. so what i did is wipe out my SD cards, both of them, cleared them out 100% formatted the External SD, and used recovery to format the internal. From there it seem to work, i put my stuff back, and it seems ok.
problem is, when you install a lot of rom's and have bad reboots some files get messed up and you have to do it all over again..
problem was with AOPK, CM and TW roms.
eatonjb said:
so with some trial and error i found some resolutions ..
first, i used Watchdog and it told me that the media services is killing battery too.
so doing a full wipe does not always fix this.. but what does, is reboot and wait about 1 hour charging and it will calm down. this was just something i noticed. so what i did is wipe out my SD cards, both of them, cleared them out 100% formatted the External SD, and used recovery to format the internal. From there it seem to work, i put my stuff back, and it seems ok.
problem is, when you install a lot of rom's and have bad reboots some files get messed up and you have to do it all over again..
problem was with AOPK, CM and TW roms.
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My experience with froyo/gb/ics is that things have been getting progressively better over the years. But with each so called UPGRADE of an OS or even APPS, we often have to deal with bugs or incompatibilities. I am eager to upgrade to a stock based JB soon, but wisdom says, for 20 things improved, there will be 5 things broken....or hurting in some way. Early adopters suffer the most as usually these issues get ironed out...most of them.
BUT...these stuck drains...wake locks etc., it seems they will happen when they do no matter how many issues get fixed. Over the years, I've had random standby drains caused by Maps/Nav. Maybe it's ok for months, then after a particular update, it's back...and unpredictable. The YES...a reboot, just like with a PC, is a quick short term workaround.
Finally, with the App CURRENT WIDGET, there is a provision to watch for high drain in standby. It watches MilliAmp (ma) readings over time..to determine if you have a rogue drain. That's different than monitoring the CPU. (Some drains do not cause much CPU activity) BUT UNFORTUNATELY, that app won't work with our S3's because of a lack of hardware support. Works great with HTC and many others. It's a bummer because I used to use it and have my HD2 reboot if a 15min consecutive high drain was recorded in standby....thereby saving the battery and usually killing the bug.
Crapppp
Jellybean didn’t solve it. Gsiff_daemon just popped up for me. Just renamed it AGAIN.
Hopefully it won't pop up again
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Recently my N7(2013) will shut itself down when the battery is low (about 10%) without any warnings, not even the "Shutting Down" dialog that it should show whenever it shuts downs (except for the usual low batt warning when it reaches 15%). After the shutdown, I cant even turn it back on not even the screen, nor the low batt (waiting for charger) screen is showing up until I plug it into a power source the it will show the charging screen and then I can turn it on again.
Its been a few times now, not sure its a hardware or software problem though. It shouldnt shut down when it still has 10% in it right?
Attached is the screenshot of the Battery Usage that shows the battery level shots down to 0% immediately from 10%.
Nexus 7 2013, Stock, Not Rooted
Are you using a battery monitoring program (battery doctor, better battery stats, etc)? If so, look in their settings, to see if they are set to shut down @ 10%...
BSnapp said:
Are you using a battery monitoring program (battery doctor, better battery stats, etc)? If so, look in their settings, to see if they are set to shut down @ 10%...
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Nah I don't trust these apps so I don't use them. Moreover I'm did not root it so even if I use them they shouldnt have the permission to shut it down
Simple fix
It is an issue I have suffered with a couple of times and it appears we are not alone. It seems that the battery calibration is out of whack. When you charge your nexus up does it stay at 100% for quite a while? I
tried factory data resets amongst other things and nothing worked. I stumbled across a thread with a really simple fix. Turn your tablet off for 2 hours. Then turn it on again. Mine miraculously lost 26% of battery in that time (from 100% where it had been for 8 hours down to 74%). Then it started to use the battery at a normal rate. Working fine now.
I was wondering if anybody else had this issue or had any suggestions.
Battery life is normally great on the tablet, except every once and a while it gets stuck awake overnight. There doesn't seem to be a 3rd party app that is holding it awake, as Android system and OS is what's using most of the battery.
As you can see in the screenshot, Doze works fine and barely any better is drained, I used it briefly, came home from work and half the battery had been drained.
Thanks for the help
Not sure if it's normal but mine does the same.
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I've seen a 30ish % drain sitting overnight a couple of times over the past 2 weeks. Can't seem to find a rhyme or reason for it.
I can't imagine it being "normal" since, with Wifi set to off while sleeping that the device should drain that much.
It's odd and happens randomly, I'm on the same page as you bluestang.
It happened to me once, at night it wastes a 15% battery.
I changed in wifi advance options to not maintain WiFi always awake, only in charge.
sabisavi said:
It happened to me once, at night it wastes a 15% battery.
I changed in wifi advance options to not maintain WiFi always awake, only in charge.
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That's the setup I have though - so I get no notifications or anything when it's not on. Yet something is still keeping the device up.
I have *exactly* the same problem with an all new device, and with nothing but a game installed on it. After a reboot, if I let the Pixel C right there for a night, then it only drains ~3/4%.
Then I play the only game I have for 5 minutes, and let the device again for a night => it now wastes a 20% battery!
No idea what's going on... "Android OS" appears first in the list of app, but this does not help me so much to find what is actually happening...
The issue still appears even after a full reset of the system (I'v tried, without success).
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I have *exactly* the same problem with an all new device, and with nothing but a game installed on it. After a reboot, if I let the Pixel C right there for a night, then it only drains ~3/4%.
Then I play the only game I have for 5 minutes, and let the device again for a night => it now wastes a 20% battery!
No idea what's going on... "Android OS" appears first in the list of app, but this does not help me so much to find what is actually happening...
The issue still appears even after a full reset of the system (I'v tried, without success).
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Exactly. If I reboot the device and let it sit, doze works fine, the second I open an app, use it and put the tablet down, something hangs and keeps it awake. Always Android OS that is keeping it awake as well...
I have this issue too. Are you guys on xceed Kernel?
Whats really interesting even better battery stats Shows no culprit.
I'm on the stock-just-reset-again last version of the system.
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I have this issue too. Are you guys on xceed Kernel?
Whats really interesting even better battery stats Shows no culprit.
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I'm on stock - not even rooted
I'm on stock MM here as well.
Also, not sure if it a coincidence or not, but I changed this and haven't seen overnight battery drops anymore. In Settings>Location I changed the Mode from High accuracy to Battery saving. Since the Pixel C doesn't have GPS device, then why use it.
Like I said, not sure if it a coincidence, but battery life has been great overnight since.
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I'm on stock MM here as well.
Also, not sure if it a coincidence or not, but I changed this and haven't seen overnight battery drops anymore. In Settings>Location I changed the Mode from High accuracy to Battery saving. Since the Pixel C doesn't have GPS device, then why use it.
Like I said, not sure if it a coincidence, but battery life has been great overnight since.
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So last night, I rebooted before I went to sleep, but overnight the battery drained from 85% down to 57% in about 8 hours.
I decided to check my location settings as per your post and found it was set to high accuracy, so I changed it to "Battery Saving".
I did nothing else(no reboot) until I checked my battery now about 3 hours later, it has only dropped by a further 2%.
Looking at "Battery Monitor Widget Pro" history statistics, it is clear to see that overnight the battery was draining considerably more.
It takes readings every 10 minutes and was showing between 450 and 275 mA being used every 10 minutes overnight.
Since I changed the location settings, most of the time it is 15mA with occasional jumps up to a max of 297mA.
Although this could not be classed as conclusive proof, it does seem to have had an effect, I will keep monitoring it to see how it goes.
Yep, I change that setting on the 19th or 20th and haven't seen any major drains overnight.
I think I may have found a winner with that little tweak
So far so good for me too. I don't know if it is related to the GPS settings, but no more inconsistent major drains so far.
if location services is on it can drain a good deal
Just to add that I had exactly the same issue on stock 7.1.2, tablet was staying awake and draining. Reduced location precision and now only a 2% drain during an 8 hour sleep which is a massive improvement.
Hi all
I've been trying to solve this problem for a few months now. Basically, the majority of the time this happens is when my phone is under 55% battery.
- When opening an app the phone will restart itself. Sometimes it restarts at the exact same battery percentage level, other times it restarts and it is sitting at 3% battery.
This has also happened when the phone was at over 75% battery.
I notice that a lot of the time when it restarts all of my widgets are gone. I have animations turned off in developer settings and occasionally when it restarts these are turned back on again. I'm using a custom keyboard and occasionally when it restarts it will reset to the factory keyboard with vibrations and sounds turned back on.
My phone is not rooted and I'm not using a case. The phone is 1 year 4 months old, although since it started a few months ago it was around the 1 year mark. So no warranty. My software is up to date and all apps are updated. Play store says none of them are corrupted.
I contacted HTC support and they suggested testing the battery by charging to 100% then turning it on airplane mode with the screen on full brightness and leaving it for 1 hour to see how much the battery drains. It only drained 2% (he said it could drain up to 25%) so it is not the battery. He then said I should test the apps to see if one of them is causing it. Unfortunately there are no HTC service centres in Sydney (only retailers who double as service centre) so I'd have to send it away for HTC to check it.
Yesterday I thought it could be the htc flip clock, as since the last restart that was the only widget I had and it disappeared on the restart yesterday, so I removed it and kept using the phone to see what happened. The battery was able to still be used without restarting down to under 15% which has not happened for months, so I'm thinking it could be that widget causing the issue. I've since added a different clock/weather widget but I hate the look of it and it doesn't open the stock HTC weather app when clicked.
So I guess my question is, is anyone else having this same issue and if so, did you find the cause of the issue/have you managed to fix it?
I'd rather not do a system restore unless completely necessary as I'm about to go overseas for a month and I don't want to risk losing anything so close.
Thanks in advance for any help. Hopefully I've added all relevant info.
So after removing the flip clock widget and replacing with another and all day use my battery is down to 27% and has not restarted once. I may have solved my own problem, although it doesn't explain why the battery drains so fast but I guess I can work that out on my own.
Hopefully anyone else with this issue will find this and solve it too.
Cheers
Test it with some battery drainer first, if it reboot then it is the battery.
My 10 just got the battery replaced by HTC had similar issue, it will reboot when high cpu usage and battery level under 40%, it will seems working ok if there is little cpu usage and will only turn off at about 3~5%