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WM7 on our excalibur?

what is this? theme? custom rom?
http://www.intomobile.com/2009/04/06/windows-mobile-7-features-demonstrated-on-video.html

smjfosho said:
what is this? theme? custom rom?
http://www.intomobile.com/2009/04/06/windows-mobile-7-features-demonstrated-on-video.html
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Apparently they are using our dash as a testbed for windows 7 platform (not a full rom), it definitely looks greats, probably we can see this early next year since WM is loosing a lot of ground with android.

If that is true, then we can hope that we will have funcional WM7 ROM with so many great chefs here.
Moto MPx200 was used for testing WM5, and it got funcional WM5 ROM.

Carebear85 said:
If that is true, then we can hope that we will have funcional WM7 ROM with so many great chefs here.
Moto MPx200 was used for testing WM5, and it got funcional WM5 ROM.
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I don´t know if it will be possible, given the hardware´s age. In fact, you should take a read on this article from WMexperts saying that no device available today is (or will be) able to run WM7.
Regards

i sold my Motorola Mpx200 with WM5 operating ROM, it needed the SD card ALLWAYS in the phone cause system files where there!!
regards

Mr. Clown said:
Apparently they are using our dash as a testbed for windows 7 platform (not a full rom), it definitely looks greats, probably we can see this early next year since WM is loosing a lot of ground with android.
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Hey senor clown

windows mobile 7 thumbs down
Mr. Clown said:
Apparently they are using our dash as a testbed for windows 7 platform (not a full rom), it definitely looks greats, probably we can see this early next year since WM is loosing a lot of ground with android.
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i truly agree with u all people talk bout is android iphone an blackberry i used to have a blackberry i dont see wat so great with it WM has ton more apps and customization u can do to the phone and i just think windows dug a deeper hole with there WM7... nothing against windows i still bought the hd2 probably last window phone ill buy unless they step up an make a phone that compete with iphone and android...
just my preference

i would love to hav this even if its not fully functional just to see what w7 feels like

bgtvfr said:
i truly agree with u all people talk bout is android iphone an blackberry i used to have a blackberry i dont see wat so great with it WM has ton more apps and customization u can do to the phone and i just think windows dug a deeper hole with there WM7... nothing against windows i still bought the hd2 probably last window phone ill buy unless they step up an make a phone that compete with iphone and android...
just my preference
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The hd2 is a great device, it will be the first device capable of running 3 OS (WM, Android and WM7). I'm still sticking with WM for a while but will definitely get an android phone in the near future. Regarding the dash with WM7, I really doubt we can see something since hardware will not allow...but a theme can be a possibility.

Not that anybody would even think it and i'm probably pointing out the obvious, but there's no hope for microsoft even bringing out 7 updates for even the latest phones, which is sad. The HD2 wasn't allowed one because it apparently didn't have the right button layout. (I mean come on.) I wish microsoft would just release some of this software for dated phones like the Dash, just for us to have a play around with.

try this theme

veveve said:
try this theme
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if that does the same also lie
Only WM7 skin

awesome theme, great job
now just need to find someway to get zune in WM 6.5 and update titanium weather to latest build

wm7... the end?

Is winmo7 gonna be the end of winmo development here at xda? It's totally new, and its gonna be really hard to port it to existing winmo phones, and its a lot more locked down...

I was wondering the same thing after watching the press event video, which is why I came here to see reaction.

As long as there is a registry it hackable... I feel sorry for HTC or cannot customise their phones to have a unique selling point over other OEM's

It seems MS have built it for the sole purpose of cracking the "consumer" market. Looks incredibly pretty and i'm sure it will "work", however, whether it will be as appealing to the xda-dev community is another question!! A bit too early to say it's the end, but just from viewing the promotional videos, I can see my love for Android growing further!!

windows phone 7 has got me quite excited.. looking fwd to use it come december 2010.

I think you're right that it's just too early to tell. I hope you're right about the registry/hackable comment, though.

I am wondering would Microsoft be so stupid to create almost a totally new OS. If they do, i believe there will some sort of migrator to migrate apps to the new os. However i am seriously disappointed if they decide to remove mutiltask.

6.5.3 will remain alive and well for enterprise and developing markets, so even if we can't port winmo 7 there will still be updates to 6.5. Either way, MS has pretty much destroyed new app development for 6.5, as many of the major players will probably wait to develop exclusively for 7. I'm definately excited about 7 though; in the meantime it looks like android will be your friend if your looking for apps.

I think it will be a new beginning. However, the new SDK will likely be based on WPF or Silverlight, so the .NET knowledge of the current developers can be applied (however, WPF has IMHO a steep learning curve) and some code can be transferred. Game development will likely be based on XNA (you can already create Zune XNA games).
The big question for me is: Is publishing/installation of new applications as easy as it is currently the case? The worst case scenario would be a mandatory marketplace and you have to pay a fee to get your application added. However, I think that Microsoft will be going a developer-friendly way, because the third party applications will make or brake the OS.

The worst case scenario would be a mandatory marketplace and you have to pay a fee to get your application added.
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That's exactly what's happening...

i just hope, that the multi billion dollar companies, make everything in the phone work the way it has to, and not wait till some regular people on this forum turn the phone into a good device.. seriously, i buy a WM knowing that its crap, just cause i know that here on XDA i can fix it and make it how i want it...

I just hope m$ has not gone the apple way blocking all development !
that will be a really really sad day on XDA.
Too early to say.
First few leaks should arrive some months hence.

irdawood said:
As long as there is a registry it hackable... I feel sorry for HTC or cannot customise their phones to have a unique selling point over other OEM's
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I think you didn't paid attention to what was said in the conference.
They said, on top OEM's can customize it to add their experience to it. So HTC and other can customize it, but not to the extend of WM 6.5's case. That's because to give a consistent experience to us ( users ).
Please don't get into conclusion's without understanding what was said.

well here's a video
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/windows-phone-7-series-hands-on-and-impressions/

yerand said:
Is winmo7 gonna be the end of winmo development here at xda? It's totally new, and its gonna be really hard to port it to existing winmo phones, and its a lot more locked down...
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no dev's have even gotten their hands on this yet. How the heck would you know what's possible with is and what's not?

Well, it is new, Microsoft stated that it has more restrictions, and its pretty much a brand new os, because microsoft also stated that its built from the ground up, therefore its like porting android to a winmo phone. It has very little of its older winmo roots.

ibsa03 said:
i just hope, that the multi billion dollar companies, make everything in the phone work the way it has to, and not wait till some regular people on this forum turn the phone into a good device.. seriously, i buy a WM knowing that its crap, just cause i know that here on XDA i can fix it and make it how i want it...
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I totally agree with u the reason i bought my htc fuze and sold my nokia phone was because i love how cuztomizeable wm is and even if they become like apple there is always android

But wasnt there supposed to be an OEM version of Windows Mobile 7 that could be customized by third party's such as HTC? From what I saw of the press coverage, we were just seeing the "interface" much like titanium and Touchflo.....but who knows....

semmtexx said:
no dev's have even gotten their hands on this yet. How the heck would you know what's possible with is and what's not?
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It may well be that it is the most easy to crack ever, However, i dobt that
@Microsoft, WHY!!!???! if i wanted an consumer OS, i would of purchased an iBrick
Why not kill 6.6, make 6.9 with the winmo 7 kernal and code in some .NET support and let HTC work it's magic
Badwolve1

for a long time, the older phones (wizard old) have been able to run the newest versions (6.5.3). i think this is gonna end development on those old phones. hopefully we will get it to run on the new phones like the hd2

wm7

when will we get a wm7 rom?

deepsingh said:
when will we get a wm7 rom?
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It's probably a bit too early to tell. I'm not sure if there's even an exact date on when wp7 will come out. And even when that arrives, it'll be quite a while until we can make a ROM of it to work on the tp2/tilt2.

I'm going to go with never. There are so many giant obstacles which make it incredibly unlikely that this device can even run Windows Mobile 7, let alone have a working Windows Mobile 7 ROM hacked onto it. AFAIK, it's just about impossible to put WM7 onto the Rhodium.

but would you even want it.

deepsingh said:
when will we get a wm7 rom?
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There is a dedicated section for WP7, please read there to see the working developement

I don't understand what anyone would really gain in going to WM7.... I like 6.5 just fine, especially with a cooked ROM.
Scott

The Jack of Clubs said:
but would you even want it.
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I've tried out wp7 skins from SPB Mobile Shell and...if the skin is anywhere near the actual wp7 OS, count me out...hate it hate it hate it...
I messed arouns with it for 10 minutes...and then that was that...
hated it.

telegraph0000 said:
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I've tried out wp7 skins from SPB Mobile Shell and...if the skin is anywhere near the actual wp7 OS, count me out...hate it hate it hate it...
I messed arouns with it for 10 minutes...and then that was that...
hated it.
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no multitasking, no flash card, encrypted filesystem, apps only from marketplace, no custom UI, PC access only via zune software...
might as well call it wPhone

i know right. its such a step backwards. all it has good is some flashy animations. i still think htc can design a better interface. android is picking up where wm is leaving off and youll be able to run android from your rhodium!

The Jack of Clubs said:
i know right. its such a step backwards. all it has good is some flashy animations. i still think htc can design a better interface. android is picking up where wm is leaving off and youll be able to run android from your rhodium!
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i like WM.65 on my TP2, but my next phone will definitely be an android phone

Windows

Can I port Windows mobile onto my HTC Desire?
Thanks.
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Sent via HTC Desire

are you winding me up?
Why would you want to do that - i dont think its possible, and im sure someone will back me up

I'm sure after much development it could be done but most people here won't get close to windows mobile with a stick!!!!! I think most of us are running away from it, so yes, it can probably done but no, it's not likely anybody is going to do it!

Okay lol, Does anyone know whats the best Modded rom i can port to my Desire? please provide links
Thanks

http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=628

atomfix said:
Can I port Windows mobile onto my HTC Desire?
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If you wanted to run WM you should have probably just bought yourself an HTC HD2 instead.

Windows mobile on desire might sound stupid but....
I was wondering about the same... I have quite a few apps for windows mobile and work email sync on windows mobile is so great - those two things combined made me wonder, maybe I can run WM on this great device?
So the question is not as stupid as it first might look. Anyone have some more info?

Why ask the same question every 2 weeks creating new thread with same discussions?

bluemetallic said:
So the question is not as stupid as it first might look. Anyone have some more info?
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I'm afraid it is, because it gets asked with alarming regularity and each time it is met with the same derision.
The simple fact of the matter is that most of the people who have the necessary skills to port WinMo to an Android probably bought one to get away from WinMo in the first place.
In addition, it's far easier to port Android to a WinMo phone because Android is open source.
Regards,
Dave

What if everything is erased... kernel, android rom etc.... then install windows mobile on the desire? is it possible? Some people are not running away from it lol like me XD.

I'm sorry...so you only want the desire hardware? I love my Desire but there's nothing in the hardware over say a HD2, so what is this frankly odd post about? People who want to run WM6.5 have several options, why buy an Android phone and wonder about another OS?

Aitese said:
I'm sorry...so you only want the desire hardware? I love my Desire but there's nothing in the hardware over say a HD2, so what is this frankly odd post about? People who want to run WM6.5 have several options, why buy an Android phone and wonder about another OS?
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Because Phones are just like computers? come pre-installed with Linux.... If you had a choice you could wipe it off and put Windows on the computer. But what is so difficult of doing that on the Desire? its just basically the same really.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/17/nexus-one-runs-windows-3-11-possibly-the-saddest-thing-weve-se/
Probably as close as you're going to get.

tuatha said:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/17/nexus-one-runs-windows-3-11-possibly-the-saddest-thing-weve-se/
Probably as close as you're going to get.
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Oh yeah I would love Windows 3.1 :'( :'( lol

atomfix said:
Because Phones are just like computers? come pre-installed with Linux.... If you had a choice you could wipe it off and put Windows on the computer. But what is so difficult of doing that on the Desire? its just basically the same really.
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Since when are phones just like computers? Yes these are smart phones and you can get "software" for them, but they are still integrated systems. Here, if it's JUST like your computer add more RAM. Upgrade the processor. Get a better GPU for it. You can't...it's NOT a computer in the sense you think.
If I want a Linux computer I buy one, if I want Windows then I'm a fool for buying the Linux system and vice-versa. These phones are now just a couple of hardware buttons and a screen. The difference is mostly software so buying an android phone when you really want WM is just plain dumb.

atomfix said:
Because Phones are just like computers? come pre-installed with Linux.... If you had a choice you could wipe it off and put Windows on the computer. But what is so difficult of doing that on the Desire? its just basically the same really.
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It's nowhere near as easy as just wiping the device's ROM and flashing some generic WM ROM, you'd bump into all kinds of conflicts. You'd need device drivers for your specific set of hardware, which are mostly available only to the manufacturers and more than often only come for the O/S iteration the manufacturer designed the phone around.
Seriously, you're way better off selling your Desire for a original WM phone.

atomfix said:
Because Phones are just like computers? come pre-installed with Linux.... If you had a choice you could wipe it off and put Windows on the computer. But what is so difficult of doing that on the Desire? its just basically the same really.
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Linux and Windows come with drivers for all sorts of hardware. In addition, if they are not on your installation media, you can usually download and install them.
To get WinMo on the Desire, you're going to need the drivers for the hardware. Some might exist, some might not - the problem is getting them an integrating it into a ROM.
Chances are that even if you could do it, it would be a suboptimal solution - if you want to run WinMo, buy a WinMo device.
Regards,
Dave

I guess it's only a matter of time before our phones start running multiple operating systems simultaneously within a virtual machine.

[Q] Can Windows phone 7 be put on the original Evo?

I really want a Windows 7 phone but I don't want to abandon Android altogether. I was wondering if I could flash WP7 on my Evo and tinker around with it?

There is a Windows Phone 7 project somewhere within EVO general
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tropicalbrit said:
There is a Windows Phone 7 project somewhere within EVO general
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Any link??

Search
Deck's + SZ + SuperCharger script + ViperMod script.

There's always the "Windows phone Android" launcher on the market if you just wanna dabble without doing too much modding to your phone.
Sent from hell.

jayare313 said:
There's always the "Windows phone Android" launcher on the market if you just wanna dabble without doing too much modding to your phone.
Sent from hell.
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No thanks, I want to use an actual, fully functional version of Windows Phone on my Evo.

david black said:
No thanks, I want to use an actual, fully functional version of Windows Phone on my Evo.
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I'm pretty sure it was abandoned awhile ago. Sorry
free the dirk

Just keep android... WP7 isn't that great anyway. Android is way more powerful and easy to use and a WP7 port wouldn't be fully functional anyway.

nickelghandi said:
Just keep android... WP7 isn't that great anyway. Android is way more powerful and easy to use and a WP7 port wouldn't be fully functional anyway.
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Why would you come in here and tell him, "Just keep Android. Don't worry about WP7." If he's like any tech enthusiast, he probably likes to tinker and just experience other operating systems and setup just for the sake of experiencing them. Hell, I do this all the time with computer operating systems.
If he wants to try out WP7, let him try out WP7. Don't tell him, "Just keep Android."

UndeadCircus said:
Why would you come in here and tell him, "Just keep Android. Don't worry about WP7." If he's like any tech enthusiast, he probably likes to tinker and just experience other operating systems and setup just for the sake of experiencing them. Hell, I do this all the time with computer operating systems.
If he wants to try out WP7, let him try out WP7. Don't tell him, "Just keep Android."
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Well Put, #CoSign

Just like you stated your opinion, I am free to state mine. Personally, I like android. I like the custom ROMs available and I use them. As someone who came from WindowsPhone to Android I would not want to go back. I didn't mean to sound like I was against tinkering, it was simply my opinion on that specific subject. If they want to port it then fine lol. I won't try and stop them.
Here is the link to one of the themes available anyway:
https://market.android.com/details?id=info.tikuwarez.launcher3&feature
Here are a couple of threads that were for a WP7 Port:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1214061
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=813184
And that is probably as far as it will go.

I do love to tinker and I really think I'd like a windows phone, I just don't want to buy one without playing with it for a week or so to make sure it's a worthy purchase. Perhaps I'll just wait til my contract is up and try a windows phone for 30 days...

david black said:
I do love to tinker and I really think I'd like a windows phone, I just don't want to buy one without playing with it for a week or so to make sure it's a worthy purchase. Perhaps I'll just wait til my contract is up and try a windows phone for 30 days...
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I know a few people that have WP7 Devices and they seem pretty satisfied with them as far as functionality. The OS is closed source though so there isn't much in the way of tinkering. At least not legally. I like the open source code of Android although that is getting too controlled now also by companies like HTC that don't want to allow redistribution of their software. Anyway check out the links I posted in my last comment. The theme from the market is kind of dumb but the other threads I've linked to may be of some help because even though they're old threads some posts in them point to other places where development may be going on currently. I hope I have been more helpful with this post and the one before this than with my first one lol.