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So I finally got my G2/Vision, I want to perm-root my G2. But I fail so much, I can't even put Visionary into my G2.... I downloaded Astro, but I need to place Visionary r14 in my SD, but I can't find a place to put it.
When I look in my SD through windows, it shows me a LOST.DIR, .Trashes, .Spotlight-V100, .fseventsd, .android_secure, Android, etc. etc. But I still can't find the spot to place Visionary, Help?
place it in that folder
ilikepu said:
place it in that folder
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Haha, I figured I'd just dl it off the internet through my G2. It worked. Configured it.
Word to the wise, stay away from visionary. Use rage.
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Word to the wise, stay away from visionary. Use rage.
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Whats the difference? And... What happens if I already used Visionary?
If you used Visionary and it worked for you, then that's great.
I also try and steer folks away from Visionary myself. Quite a few seem to end up with a lot of problems after using Visionary. The "rage" method of rooting is a lot more reliable, it's just that it looks a lot more "scary" to newcomers because there are commands you have to type in and run on your PC and phone. But if you read up on it, and ask questions if you don't understand, then follow the instructions carefully, you'll be fine - and even if rage goes wrong then you won't end up with a semi-brick, you just won't get root (until you fix the problem).
Ohhhh, Ok. Yeah I couldn't get Visionary to work until several tries. Took me a while. I was supprised I hadn't bricked my phone already. But now I'm pretty satisfied with CM 6.1 w/ MattedBlues theme. Sucks though I couldn't get it to work with Virtuous. I really like Sense alot more than the stock Rom (I consider CM 6 to be pretty stock)
Hope this helps!!!
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If you used Visionary and it worked for you, then that's great.
I also try and steer folks away from Visionary myself. Quite a few seem to end up with a lot of problems after using Visionary. The "rage" method of rooting is a lot more reliable, it's just that it looks a lot more "scary" to newcomers because there are commands you have to type in and run on your PC and phone. But if you read up on it, and ask questions if you don't understand, then follow the instructions carefully, you'll be fine - and even if rage goes wrong then you won't end up with a semi-brick, you just won't get root (until you fix the problem).
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+1 on the reliable and +1 on the scary!!!!
I am very new to Android,...I've only had my G2 for about 2 months...I ran Visionary temp root without issues (r10). When I tried to install in r14 to perm root, I encountered a myriad of errors, and decided not to root.
But I just couldn't give up on it....two weeks ago I got food poisoning, which rendered me useless and home bound, I decided to attempt it. I decided to use the rage method, but found that the instructions assumes that you know something about rooting. There are alot of people on this forum that are willing to help (steviewevie was one of them) to get you your through what ever hurdle you encounter.
Personally I found the rooting process very rewarding as I now have less of a vague idea of what is happening in my phone (ie not as lost as before).
Some of the basics:
- Install adb on your pc (not that scary), and read a bot on it...understand what some of the basic commands are trying to do. (see the rooting guide for those commands)
- set your path on your PC to point to the correct directory from where you are pushing (There are a few forums here that will guide you setup by step on how to do this)
-Follow the instructions to the T, and you should be ok.
Click here to go to the thread that these guys helped me while I going through the process. Post #4 makes reference to the path on your pc.
NOTE:This Path should point to the location where you have your adb tools and location of the files you are trying to push to your phone.
Post #17 goes step by step on what you need to do, and how the lines on the terminal should look like.
This is really not that difficult once you get your bearings, and for me it was a lot of fun...actually a little bored with the phone after having done this.
Put (SOLVED) in your thread title please.
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You all seem to suggest to not use visionary but use rage but from what I saw yesterday we had 2 "bricks" from people rooting with rage, compared to none from visionary
Lennyuk said:
You all seem to suggest to not use visionary but use rage but from what I saw yesterday we had 2 "bricks" from people rooting with rage, compared to none from visionary
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Ouch! Really? So no method is any "safer" yet then? Was planning on return to stock then Rage today. I take it I can't update my radio without full radio s-off? Or can i"?
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ddotpatel said:
Ouch! Really? So no method is any "safer" yet then? Was planning on return to stock then Rage today. I take it I can't update my radio without full radio s-off? Or can i"?
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If you know how to read, you can safely root using rage. Just read over the instructions a couple times first.
If you know what your doing both methods are as safe as each other. From what I can see there is a larger margin of error using Rage, however its entirely in your own hands, so as long as you make sure you input it all correctly it should be fine.
Both "bricks" yesterday were recoverable, and both times the user was sure they followed it all correctly, it just seems that their rom corrupted during the process so ended up stuck on a bootloop.
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If you know how to read, you can safely root using rage. Just read over the instructions a couple times first.
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Lennyuk said:
If you know what your doing both methods are as safe as each other. ...
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So we not talking about the random occurance of file corruption then?
Thank you both (i'll add the to your thanks meters when I have some available). Just need to find how to fully reverse the rage method if needed.
Lennyuk said:
If you know what your doing both methods are as safe as each other. From what I can see there is a larger margin of error using Rage, however its entirely in your own hands, so as long as you make sure you input it all correctly it should be fine.
Both "bricks" yesterday were recoverable, and both times the user was sure they followed it all correctly, it just seems that their rom corrupted during the process so ended up stuck on a bootloop.
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Are you sure the corruption didn't stem from an earlier unsuccessful attempt to root with Visionary ?
I've yet to see a thread where someone has done something bad to their phone via rage, all it does is fire up a ton of process to use an exploit which gets you root. That can't corrupt your phone on its own.
Do you have some links ?
ddotpatel said:
So we not talking about the random occurance of file corruption then?
Thank you both (i'll add the to your thanks meters when I have some available). Just need to find how to fully reverse the rage method if needed.
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Here you go.
since my first thread got close so fast;
as the other thread says, i tried Visionary+ and z4root, and now also Rage(or "gFree" as 3rd poster called it);
when i come to the 2nd stage of this thread ( [GUIDE] Instructions to Root G2 [Temp Root]) i close the terminal emulator, and when i start it again, it tells me i need to force close it, i do that, try to launch it again, nothing happends, the phone hangs, it becomes uber-slow and wont start anything, the only thing to fix that is rebooting, it seems, but then i have to rage it again
so, anyone wants to explain what to do?
(Mods; please don't close the thread until i got it working >_<)
Like the other poster said using the gfree method worked for me but I did use visionary for temp root to get the files I needed to where they had to go.
I hate to tell you to go to a different site but I used the new unlockr.com method which is the same gfree method with a mix of some of the true s-off guides.
because some file pushing commands where annoying so once you get a video guide on what to download and a writen guide over here just put the 2 together.
I moved the gfree file,busybox,data file to your data/local/tmp directory and moved the superuser apk on to the root of the sdcard and then followed the commands that actually use the file that you placed into your data/local/tmp directory.
you will need visionary just to get temp root to access the data privalge you will also need a app called rootexplorer you'll need this to get into your data/local/tmp but after you've read the directions a thousand times you'll know what I had directed you to do and why its easyier to move them manually.
I know that was a lot to read but that is plain an simple ways to manually move the files to the spot you need them without commands to move them you can do it your self but read this and the true root directions and the unlockr.com guide for this phone 3 times before attempting.
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Quick use the little steps I gave and run run away fast as you can lol
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prittyboy203 said:
Quick use the little steps I gave and run run away fast as you can lol
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i didnt understand that post at all
could you clearify what you mean?
Haha sorry it was a joke at the end cuz they took down the other post for no reason that I could think of you where asking for help. so I was playing around and say take the info I just reposted and run lol
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But your trying to get temp root and that's it and nothing else like your goal is to get garbage apps off your phone and to wifi tether or your aiming to flash roms and kernels?
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Haha sorry it was a joke at the end cuz they took down the other post for no reason that I could think of you where asking for help. so I was playing around and say take the info I just reposted and run lol
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FYI...They locked down his other thread because you are not suppose to post a Q and A thread in the Dev section. The Dev. section is only for posting ROMS, GUIDES, REF, RADIOS, KERNELS and the alike, Questions belong either in the Q and A section which he has now posted in or the Dev. Q and A thread started by Mod Captainkrtek HERE.
Ohhh hey well thanks for the fyi well he still asking for help and not getting far just in a new spot good luck my friend on rooting and like they all say use google or the search button in the corner there's a bunch of people that have posted the same question but look at the datas or youll get a huge brick
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comoba said:
since my first thread got close so fast;
as the other thread says, i tried Visionary+ and z4root, and now also Rage(or "gFree" as 3rd poster called it);
when i come to the 2nd stage of this thread ( [GUIDE] Instructions to Root G2 [Temp Root]) i close the terminal emulator, and when i start it again, it tells me i need to force close it, i do that, try to launch it again, nothing happends, the phone hangs, it becomes uber-slow and wont start anything, the only thing to fix that is rebooting, it seems, but then i have to rage it again
so, anyone wants to explain what to do?
(Mods; please don't close the thread until i got it working >_<)
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Which phone do you have, G2 or Desire Z? If Desire Z, which rom version is the phone running?
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FYI...They locked down his other thread because you are not suppose to post a Q and A thread in the Dev section. The Dev. section is only for posting ROMS, GUIDES, REF, RADIOS, KERNELS and the alike, Questions belong either in the Q and A section which he has now posted in or the Dev. Q and A thread started by Mod Captainkrtek HERE.
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oh, i thought i posted it in the Q&A, my bad then.
prittyboy203 said:
But your trying to get temp root and that's it and nothing else like your goal is to get garbage apps off your phone and to wifi tether or your aiming to flash roms and kernels?
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well, yeah, i want to get rid of garbage apps and tweak some files, such as gaining my own shortcut key as it was removed to fit Scandinavian language keys.
also, wifi-tethering exist under the name "portable wifi hotspot" in Desire Z
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Which phone do you have, G2 or Desire Z? If Desire Z, which rom version is the phone running?
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Desire Z, i'm running the rom that came with it.
Android 2.2
build number 1.82.405.1 (<- rom?)
Ahh now I know what your goal is then I could try and help a little more. but the rooting part if you read one part and execute it it won't take long. how far have you gotten did you download all the files need to root the phone from any guides yet?
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Edit: I'm pretty sure we need a lot more reading done before attempting root or anything.
prittyboy203 said:
did you download all the files need to root the phone from any guides yet?
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did you even read the first post in both of my threads?
yes i have, from this one ([GUIDE] Instructions to Root G2 [Temp Root]).
comoba said:
did you even read the first post in both of my threads?
yes i have, from this one ([GUIDE] Instructions to Root G2 [Temp Root]).
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comoba said:
since my first thread got close so fast;
as the other thread says, i tried Visionary+ and z4root, and now also Rage(or "gFree" as 3rd poster called it);
when i come to the 2nd stage of this thread ( [GUIDE] Instructions to Root G2 [Temp Root]) i close the terminal emulator, and when i start it again, it tells me i need to force close it, i do that, try to launch it again, nothing happends, the phone hangs, it becomes uber-slow and wont start anything, the only thing to fix that is rebooting, it seems, but then i have to rage it again
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prittyboy203 said:
big fat post copied from another thread that includes how to perm root, but most of it is copied from the link in the above quote
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Edit: forget about the info posted didn't know they have 2 phones that hardware wise the same and that to root is different for each phone sorry for the wrong info
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pittyboy, i'm sorry but, can you start typing on a computer instead?
you lack of dots, commas and question marks makes it really hard to understand what you are typing.
and i have no problems with using adb at all.
not to mention that your "guide" is almost the same as the one i used in the temp-root part.
the only difference i can see is how chmod is done and if u do /data/local/tmp/root after it .
@ comoba The problem is you have to downgrade your desire Z rom to 1.34 in order to temp root and root. Heres the downgrading instructions. You have the 1.82 rom and Im not sure if the downgrading will work for that rom, others have asked this same question on downgrading the 1.82 rom to 1.34 but I have yet to see confirmation of this.
@prittyboy203 you are giving wrong advice on rooting, you are telling him to push a file specifically for the G2 to his desire Z, you might want to do some research before giving advice.
Specifically this: The following is only for the Tmobile G2...
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ON YOUR PC:
unzip the vision-perm-root.zip and navigate to that folder. There will be four files. You will need to push two of these to your phone- hboot-eng.img, and one of the wpthis-[..].ko files.
If you HAVE applied the OTA update, push wpthis-OTA.ko.
If you HAVE NOT applied the OTA update, push wpthis-pre-OTA.ko.
Code:
$ adb push hboot-eng.img /data/local
$ adb push wpthis-OTA.ko /data/local
ON YOUR PHONE:
You should still have terminal emulator up, at a root prompt. Now run:
Code:
# insmod /data/local/wpthis-OTA.ko
You should see:
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init_module 'wpthis-OTA.ko' failed (Function not implemented)
That means it worked. This next step is CRUCIAL. You must make sure that you are writing to the proper partition here or you could brick your phone. To be absolutely clear- the partition is mmcblk(zero)p(one)(eight)
dd if=/data/local/hboot-eng.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p18
You should see some messages indicating that it was written. Next, run:
# /data/local/tmp/root
This will lock in root, and give you 'su' access in the future. Next, run:
# sync
Now wait at least a minute, just to be safe. After waiting, reboot your phone using the power button. After it finishes starting up, launch the terminal emulator, and type 'su'. You should get the prompt asking you to grant permissions. If you got the prompt, congratulations! You have permanent root!
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Sorry for the double post but I wanted you to see this,
The method I gave you above to Downgrade your ROM HERE is confirmed to work with 1.82 rom even though the instructions were written to downgrade from 1.72 to 1.34. Heres the post confirming this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11855369&postcount=177
joemm said:
@ comoba The problem is you have to downgrade your desire Z rom to 1.34 in order to temp root and root. Heres the downgrading instructions. You have the 1.82 rom and Im not sure if the downgrading will work for that rom, others have asked this same question on downgrading the 1.82 rom to 1.34 but I have yet to see confirmation of this.
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if i was doing that; temp-rooting the first time, to get everything installed etc, would i still be able to temproot if i upgrade the rom back to 1.82? or should i do perm root because it would be better?
My question can appear strange , but what can I do with a rooted phone like my desire Z? Because I read a lot about how to permanently root the desire z but, this is my first Android phone so if someone can help me to try to permanently root the phone... I want to try it without brick my phone... I read the guide in the wiki section but I didn't understand it there is something easier?
Thanks a lot
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This link will explain everything.
blackknightavalon said:
this link will explain everything.
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blackknightavalon said:
This link will explain everything.
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i concour.
There are so many articles.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...top-5-benefits-of-rooting-your-android-phone/
Also helpful to read the comments.
Haha thanks but is so difficult?
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From [GUIDE][DZ] EASY Rooting, Flashing, Debranding and Basic FAQs for dummies:
- For rooting questions, please refer to the proper thread (rooting methods).
- Rooting an HTC Vision is a pain in the arse because there are many variants/versions, and not all rooting methods can be used on all of them.
- There are many ways to get root access: "rage" (ADB command line type) "visionary" (an APK installable app by paulobrien from Modaco) "gfree", etc. Using "Rage" is safer, "visionary" is simpler but many problemshave been reported, and "gfree" safer and most up to date.
- After using any of these, you can go further and turn S-OFF, CID-unlock and SIM-unlock the phone with "gfree", a safe and neat script written by scotty2 et al @ #G2root IRC. Sounds confusing ?? Just follow the instructions on the Wiki.
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Is it hard? Yes.
Is it worth it? Hell yes.
As soon as you root your phone, you'll wonder why it wasn't the first thing you did when you got home from the store...
Follow the guides in the link I placed above and hopefully you'll figure it out in no-time.
Oh thanks lots my friend ok I'll try...
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I wouldn't say it's too difficult. Definitely easier than in the days of the G1. The benefits are definitely worth it too. Being able to transition to custom ROMs is probably the largest benefit.
Rooting isn't for everyone. If you take the Apple approach and just use your phone as a device to get onto the Internet and make phone calls and send texts, then rooting isn't for you.
If you want to take your device to the next level (use widgets to determine the weather, take snapshots of your desktop to ask for help or just brag about something, have a faster/overall experience), and if you are not risk adverse (...i.e., patient enough to wait for a custom ROM for Gingerbread or deal with CyanogenMod 7), and if you're willing to always look forward, then rooting is for you.
Oh, and if you're a developer looking to try something out... well, if you were then I guess you wouldn't be asking this question. ...you'd probably be asking how to unbrick your phone.
my charger port is broken on my g2 so i cant do adb.... but i've tried all methods that i have seen gingerbreak, z4root, visionary like 4 different versions of thats and nothings works... some1 help
First off don't try visionary. Dont try these "one click" methods. They won't work on the G2.
You can go through the normal method in the wiki, but use an app like Terminal Emulator on your phone to enter the commands.
martonikaj said:
First off don't try visionary. Dont try these "one click" methods. They won't work on the G2.
You can go through the normal method in the wiki, but use an app like Terminal Emulator on your phone to enter the commands.
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do you have a link for this cause im not even sure what wiki is...
rawdawgroy said:
do you have a link for this cause im not even sure what wiki is...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
That is the DZ/G2 wiki.
If you're this stuck in the dark then you REALLY need to do some reading before rooting. People are less likely to help you when you come in with easy questions before doing any of your own research.
Read, then search, then ask.
martonikaj said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
That is the DZ/G2 wiki.
If you're this stuck in the dark then you REALLY need to do some reading before rooting. People are less likely to help you when you come in with easy questions before doing any of your own research.
Read, then search, then ask.
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i really do appreciate the help and time but i did its says at the top must have adb... also farther down its says where i can do the commands by the term. but it jumps back from adb commands to the phone term... i dont wanna brick this phone what parts am i to do exactly...?
Hi i want someone that can actually guide me step by step on the rooting for my htc evo. I was doing the process fine but i get stuck in the usb part in the recovery section.. PLease help
U need to read up n figure it out. If u can't do it then you should not be rooting your device. You def have not read enough cuz u would know that ?'s don't belong in general...
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crisscuba said:
Hi i want someone that can actually guide me step by step on the rooting for my htc evo. I was doing the process fine but i get stuck in the usb part in the recovery section.. PLease help
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If you like I can teamview you and do it for you
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I'm not trying to be a **** just trying 2 help you help yourself. Also YouTube it. That's what I did...noobtube
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crisscuba said:
Hi i want someone that can actually guide me step by step on the rooting for my htc evo. I was doing the process fine but i get stuck in the usb part in the recovery section.. PLease help
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Im lost where your at right now can you please tell me the process you went through until you got stuck
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1218386 here its fast and easy. next time do research in what your trying to accomplish please, this process is not that hard.
sure that will be great, tell me what to do?
Lol dude click the link in my last comment, its a guide for rooting. Its only a few steps so even some one with no knowledge of rooting can do it. If you cant get it done then im sorry your on your own, i tried good luck.
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sure that will be great, tell me what to do?
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you have been told "what to do" show some pride, suck it up and read.
it is super simple.
if you do not understand then stop or you will be worse off.
just read you will be surprised how easy it is
I love it when someone is handed detailed instructions then asks for instructions again.
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dzee206 said:
Lol dude click the link in my last comment, its a guide for rooting. Its only a few steps so even some one with no knowledge of rooting can do it. If you cant get it done then im sorry your on your own, i tried good luck.
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first of all i'm not a dude, second i did the guide of the rooting, i managed to do everything but there's a stage where the option doesn't appear in the recovery section. All i ask is for help. If you don't intend to help then don't bother replying.
Plug phone into USB, turn on debugging mode, run revolutionary, enjoy root.
Honestly, it's that simple. The people on here that are telling you that you "shouldn't bother rooting" if you have to ask this question are not saying that to be rude at all. It's a simple fact that rooting gives you privileges to sensitive system files that, if you dont know what you are doing and can't follow simple step by step instructions, can cause you to do extreme damage to your phone such as bricking. Again, it's a very simple process that you will be repeating very often while flashing various ROMs, kernels, and radios. If you aren't comfortable enough following the millions of step by step guides here on the forums then, for your phone's safety, you shouldn't be rooting. Keep reading the guides, scour the forum for the billion of other posts like yours, and then root AFTER you understand the ENTIRE process start to finish. I know you're eager to root your phone but such sensitive things should not be done without full understanding.
Again, nobody is trying to be rude to you at all. It's just that those of us more experienced in the subject know what can happen when inexperienced people try to blindly root, and subsequently flash, a bunch of stuff on their phone. Please try to take a step back and understand this.
Did you download the fastboot drivers and make sure HTC sync is not installed on your computer?