Check out the drop tests
http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/17/wa...xy-s-ii-take-three-nasty-drops-onto-concrete/
I've already dropped mine three times and it still looks good.. mind you I have no case for it..
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One my first drop i got 2 big scratches
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You could take the audio from the first drop and loop it for the rest of the video and no one would know the difference.
OT: It's nice that it's resilient since my phone is always naked. I'm sure I'll drop it eventually...
There may be something else going on...
Granted, it doesn't have glass on the front and back like the iPhone, but I wouldn't expect the screen to be better than the iPhone's, in terms of impact resistance.
This may be a bit like the Mythbuster's episode, where they were trying to scale up that office chrome-ball executive toy up to the scale of wrecking balls...
Scaled up from small chrome balls to larger all steel balls, the experiment worked beautifully. When they scaled up to full-size however, they just used steel discs, and poured concrete on either side to simulate balls. And the experiment failed.
Why?
Steel is dense, and doesn't absorb energy. Concrete, apparently, does. Called "damping" in the audio world, they make special adhesive asphalt mats to stick to car sheet metal to absorb and "damp" vibrations in the panels
Although it's no Nerf phone, I'm thinking the SGSII's all plastic construction inside absorbs energy better than the aluminum and glass chassis on the iPhone.
And if it hit the screen, I think it would shatter like the iPhone. The difference here is, our screen is fully surrounded by plastic, where the iPhone screen is a fully exposed slab of glass rising above the aluminum antennas (sides of the phone). And back also. So, on a drop, there's more chance of actually impacting the glass.
Obviously having less glass to break helps, but the iPhone screen is more likely to break from a direct impact than the Samsung screen. iPhone's are known for being fragile, while Samsung uses Gorilla Glass which is known to be very durable by comparison. (I don't know if Apple uses any sort of special glass, or if the 4S is any different than it's predecessors.)
Why it's more resilient doesn't really matter though. At the end of the day, dropping your E4GT is far less likely to set you back repair costs than dropping your iPhone.
iPhone 4 uses gorilla glass, on both sides. That's why it shatters so easily... it resists scratches, but that process of increasing that strength makes it less flexible and shatters easier. That's the trade off of gorilla glass.
I've heard rumors the SGS glass uses gorilla glass, but you hear that rumor on any fan forum about every phone coming out by any manufacturer.
I'd believe it if there was one thing from Samsung saying that.
Iphone 4S - 140g.
SGS 2 - 116g.
I dropped mine a couple times. Then a few days later I noticed my screen was cracked. Its up on the top left corner and really hard to even notice.
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iPhone 4 uses gorilla glass, on both sides. That's why it shatters so easily... it resists scratches, but that process of increasing that strength makes it less flexible and shatters easier. That's the trade off of gorilla glass.
I've heard rumors the SGS glass uses gorilla glass, but you hear that rumor on any fan forum about every phone coming out by any manufacturer.
I'd believe it if there was one thing from Samsung saying that.
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As far as I was aware the iPhone uses Gorilla Glass ONLY on the front of the iPhone and NOT on the back which is why we see so many more cracked backs than fronts.
And Samsung HAS made it clear the SGS and SGSII use Gorilla Glass. It's been widely publicized and confirmed.
Iphone doesn't use Gorilla Glass.
Gorilla Glass is both scratch resistant and shatter resistant.
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As far as I was aware the iPhone uses Gorilla Glass ONLY on the front of the iPhone and NOT on the back which is why we see so many more cracked backs than fronts.
And Samsung HAS made it clear the SGS and SGSII use Gorilla Glass. It's been widely publicized and confirmed.
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I'll give you widely publicized, lol. But none of it officially. THAT would make it "confirmed'.
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Iphone 4S - 140g.
SGS 2 - 116g.
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both fall at the same rate, but force on iPhone from pavement is slightly larger.
Doesnt make much of the difference, the difference is the iPhone has less protected glass on both sides
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TurboFool said:
As far as I was aware the iPhone uses Gorilla Glass ONLY on the front of the iPhone and NOT on the back which is why we see so many more cracked backs than fronts.
And Samsung HAS made it clear the SGS and SGSII use Gorilla Glass. It's been widely publicized and confirmed.
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I dont see any Apple product listed
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/full-products-list
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iPhone 4 uses gorilla glass, on both sides. That's why it shatters so easily... it resists scratches, but that process of increasing that strength makes it less flexible and shatters easier. That's the trade off of gorilla glass.
I've heard rumors the SGS glass uses gorilla glass, but you hear that rumor on any fan forum about every phone coming out by any manufacturer.
I'd believe it if there was one thing from Samsung saying that.
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A little searching and you can find countless people that have checked with Samsung or Sprint directly. Samsung's on site explicitly states the SGSII has it: http://www.samsung.com/africa_en/news/newsRead.do?news_seq=27702. So does Corning: http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/full-products-list. It's not quite proof the E4GT has it though, but it's about as sure as you can be without seeing it on Samsung's site.
I see a lot of mixed information about the iPhone glass. Supposedly Apple claims it has Gorilla Glass on the back and front (I don't see it on their site), but many people think it may have regular glass on the back because there's a much higher rate of shattering the back glass compared to the front. It looks like it may be a custom glass that's similar to Gorilla Glass but falls short. In fact, the iPhone 4 is advertised on Apple's site as having an aluminosilicate screen. The wording on the iPhone 4S page is almost identical and neither type of glass is specifically mentioned, leading me to think it's not Gorilla Glass.
Regarding shatter resistance, there is no trade off. It most certainly does not shatter easier. Nowhere will you find that statement corroborated.
At the end of the day though, the iPhone seems to have a well documented history of fragility in comparison to known Gorilla Glass equipped smartphones. So far, the E4GT seems far more durable.
PS ilostmypistons: it says right on that page it's not a comprehensive list. And Apple is exactly the type of company I would expect to hide the 'technical' details. So that means the page can't be trusted completely.
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iPhone 4 uses gorilla glass, on both sides. That's why it shatters so easily... it resists scratches, but that process of increasing that strength makes it less flexible and shatters easier. That's the trade off of gorilla glass.
I've heard rumors the SGS glass uses gorilla glass, but you hear that rumor on any fan forum about every phone coming out by any manufacturer.
I'd believe it if there was one thing from Samsung saying that.
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thing is most brands of device do use Gorilla Glass...not all advertise it, the GG website gets updated every now and again to include it...it's not that expensive...and I don't get what the big deal is. It still shatters easily and sand can still scratch it so I need a screen protector, so, I don't really take claims of something supposedly having Gorilla Glass being all that unbelievable. Additionally I believe they sell the same exact formula hardened glass, likely for less, under a different moniker.
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geolemon said:
iPhone 4 uses gorilla glass, on both sides. That's why it shatters so easily... it resists scratches, but that process of increasing that strength makes it less flexible and shatters easier. That's the trade off of gorilla glass.
I've heard rumors the SGS glass uses gorilla glass, but you hear that rumor on any fan forum about every phone coming out by any manufacturer.
I'd believe it if there was one thing from Samsung saying that.
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There are videos of a guy using his car key to try and scratch his Samsung Galasy SII screen. This phone DOES have Gorilla Glass.
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Trying to get ahead of the game. Isn't the Infuse the same screen size and layout as the Epic Touch? If so Seidioonline.com has some great screen protectors.
http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/spm1ssnfs-2.htm
Not sure on that but I do know Skinomi has the Epic 4G Touch one for sale, mine shipped this morning.
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I'm not asking sarcastically, I'm generally curious: Why bother with screen protectors on these? They only cloud the view and the screens are so incredibly hard to scratch that I can't imagine what you'd have to do to them that a screen protector would manage to prevent. I know my Epic 4G didn't acquire a single sign of damage in its year, and that's pretty unsurprising given the Gorilla Glass that's used on it. Same should apply to the Touch.
I've got the same seidio protector on my epic. You can't even tell its there. Looks and feels exactly like the screen.
Sorry if I sound like a fanboy, but I've tried another companies invisishield?? and it totally sucked ass! Paid dearly for it too, like 30 bucks. It was nothing more than a piece of vinyl.
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I've had my original epic without a screen protector since the first day it was released and it still doesn't have a scratch on it. The salesman at the sprint store even commented on how it looked brand new when he was trying to sell me a screen protector for my new Epic touch.
With gorilla glass it's really not needed, unless you just like spending money.
I ordered the Skinomi one too.. but you guys (and others) are making me doubt its necessity. I'm just paranoid that one day it will be scratched by some sand or keys that I forgot were in the pocket.
What if you drop it on sharp pavement/asphalt in such a way that it simply slides across it, would it still not scratch the gorilla glass?
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I ordered the Skinomi one too.. but you guys (and others) are making me doubt its necessity. I'm just paranoid that one day it will be scratched by some sand or keys that I forgot were in the pocket.
What if you drop it on sharp pavement/asphalt in such a way that it simply slides across it, would it still not scratch the gorilla glass?
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Just search YouTube for Gorilla Glass and watch the absurd and painful things they do to it without effect. RAZOR BLADES across its screen, baggies full of screws, etc.
And in your scenario you'd be far more likely to shatter the screen than scratch it, and no protector will stop that.
I agree with the no need for a screen protector on Gorilla glass. I used to sell phones on craigslist all the time and did find that some people managed to scratch iPhone screens. I'm sorry, but if I pay that much money for electronics, then I am gonna take care of them. Then again I've seen people with ragged out Mercedes and Audi's also, so go figure.
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I agree with the no need for a screen protector on Gorilla glass. I used to sell phones on craigslist all the time and did find that some people managed to scratch iPhone screens. I'm sorry, but if I pay that much money for electronics, then I am gonna take care of them. Then again I've seen people with ragged out Mercedes and Audi's also, so go figure.
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iphones use "scratch resistant" glass also which is all gorilla glass claims to be. All it takes is one grain of sand in your pocket to get micro scratches or worse on gorilla glass.
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iphones use "scratch resistant" glass also which is all gorilla glass claims to be. All it takes is one grain of sand in your pocket to get micro scratches or worse on gorilla glass.
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Cement will ruin the screen. Scratches galore.
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I'm not asking sarcastically, I'm generally curious: Why bother with screen protectors on these? They only cloud the view and the screens are so incredibly hard to scratch that I can't imagine what you'd have to do to them that a screen protector would manage to prevent. I know my Epic 4G didn't acquire a single sign of damage in its year, and that's pretty unsurprising given the Gorilla Glass that's used on it. Same should apply to the Touch.
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Because they don't cloud the view at all if you use the clear ones and they actually do scratch quite easily by sand and other debris. Look no further then the plethora of scratched iPhone 4s with gorilla glass and you can see it's nowhere near scratch proof.
i made this for every1 asking about screen size of infuse v epic touch
The dimensions listed are sometimes misleading on those sites; I owned a Vibrant which was techincaly a different size than international SGS yet every single accessory fit like a glove. That is obviously not the case with this device, but the dimensions are pretty close.
I opened like 4 boxes of Infuse accessories at Best Buy this morning looking for something temporary to protect my device while better options appear and aside from a few minor things, all of the cases fit the ET4G well. The Infuse is more square than our device and the headphone jack and volume rockers are a tad off (though still usable). Only major incompatibility is that mic hole is in wrong place on all the Infuse cases. I ultimately did not end up buying anything, but I am almost positive that Infuse screen protectors would be the exact right size.
All it takes is one scratch to ruin your phone experience. That's my opinion.
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Does any one had scratches appearing on the screens glass of the Galaxy Nexus?
, few days back i have noticed one noticeable scratch on the screen , strange as i am treating my Nexus very carefully.
My galaxy S which has the gorilla glass never had scratches and it is now more than 6 months old.
Little bit disappointing as it is very new phone with couple of weeks use. who know if there will be more scratches in the future!! Hope not
Just dropped mine 5ft to the pavement landed face first and the battery cover came off. It's still flawless I don't know how but it is.... I was expecting it to be cracked but I'm pretty impressed!
Yeah, I've got a few scratches. Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364252
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I have mine in my pocket all the time and it's perfectly fine,not even one scratch.
i used my gn with the screen film still on it for over a week until i got my screen protectors in the mail, no glass screen is unscratchable/unbreakable. there are plenty of substances around that will scratch gorilla glass (eg sand) and if even a tiny bit ends up in your pocket, better have a screen protector!
Yea my original G2x had 2 tiny micro scratches on it. Not noticable unless viewing a white background, more commonly when viewing webpages before they fully load.
The LG Updater bricked mine and got an exchange. Haven't had a problem with my new one but just goes to show.
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i used my gn with the screen film still on it for over a week until i got my screen protectors in the mail, no glass screen is unscratchable/unbreakable. there are plenty of substances around that will scratch gorilla glass (eg sand) and if even a tiny bit ends up in your pocket, better have a screen protector!
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Wise advice here, but nobody sells screen protectors for the nexus where I am. I've ordered some online and I'll be taking it to a professional to get stuck on (every time I do it I leave bubbles; yes I've watched numerous instructional videos alas I cannot do it) - I've only ordered three protectors, hopefully that is more than enough.
All the screen (even Gorilla) would have chance to get scratches...
always get a screen protector for your couple-hundred phone
Yeah I'm gonna have to get some too. I always take extreme care of my phones (whether in my pocket or out) and it already has a small, yet noticeable scratch on the bottom. Definitely need a ZAGG or the like
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3 scratches here.
I'm tired of hearing people say even gorilla glass will scratch blah blah blah. Gorilla glass has proven to me to be infinitely more scratch proof than the glass on the Nexus. Like 100 fold over. After a while I was treating my Vibrant like it was bullet proof. Throwing it across the room, dropping it scores of times, putting it into my pocket with keys, etc etc... and to this day - "not one scratch on it", not one! For those who think sand in your pocket would scratch gorilla glass, you better think again. Obviously there will be rare occassions where it would happen but for the most part, it'll survive without any issues.
My nexus on the hand has been babied to death and less than a week into owning it, 3 scratches.
I will never, EVER buy a phone without gorilla glass again.
I've been rocking my Incredible since day one without screen protection and it's still mint. (besides a complete crack in upper right corner (in an area that is beyond the display) from one of the worse drops, which was more of a drunken throw). I really hope that the Nexus can handle my lifestyle, but sounds like this thread is reporting mixed reviews. I refuse to wear a condom so I hope I get one of the good ones...
p.s. I surf alot in the summer and sand all over but still no scratches. I guess it has to hit with the right angle and friction???
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I will never, EVER buy a phone without gorilla glass again.
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One grain of sand or salt + friction (i.e. pocket) and even the Gorilla Glass 2 on the RAZR gets scratched.
You can run a key across the screen all day long, but it only take a granule of something to etch a deep scratch.
If u get a decent screen protector and install it well (I know it ain't easy) it will look/feel as good as the naked glass, and then u dont have to worry - and in a year when u pull it off, the glass will be PERFECT. Small price to pay. The Galaxy Nexus is so thin that with a slim TPU case it's still crazy thin, and you will keep it in perfect condition
I agree Gorilla is scratchable but much harder to get scratched than other glass.
Does anyone have suggestion of good screen protector? And from where to get?
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kojaraty said:
I agree Gorilla is scratchable but much harder to get scratched than other glass.
Does anyone have suggestion of good screen protector? And from where to get?
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I'm currently using the Verizon ones, but just ordered some SGP Olephobic ones:
http://www.sgpstore.com/cell-phone/...-nexus-screen-protector-steinheil-series.html
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I'm currently using the Verizon ones, but just ordered some SGP Olephobic ones:
http://www.sgpstore.com/cell-phone/...-nexus-screen-protector-steinheil-series.html
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I'm sorry to say, but you should have ordered the SGP Flex instead. The Ultra Oleophobic ones don't extend to the edge of the screen, because they use the dry adhesive method, and if they went right to the edge of the curved screen they would peel.
Frankly, it looks pretty ugly having a band around the edge that's not covered. Plus, because they don't extend to the edges, it's much more noticeable if you get it off centre.
As mentioned in the other thread i have a couple of tiny scratches after 3 weeks of use and never ever putting anything else in my pocket with it. Disappointing.
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3 scratches here.
I'm tired of hearing people say even gorilla glass will scratch blah blah blah. Gorilla glass has proven to me to be infinitely more scratch proof than the glass on the Nexus. Like 100 fold over. After a while I was treating my Vibrant like it was bullet proof. Throwing it across the room, dropping it scores of times, putting it into my pocket with keys, etc etc... and to this day - "not one scratch on it", not one! For those who think sand in your pocket would scratch gorilla glass, you better think again. Obviously there will be rare occassions where it would happen but for the most part, it'll survive without any issues.
My nexus on the hand has been babied to death and less than a week into owning it, 3 scratches.
I will never, EVER buy a phone without gorilla glass again.
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Couldn't agree more. I was the same way with both my Fascinate and now my charge. Neither device has gotten a single scratch.
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3 scratches here.
I'm tired of hearing people say even gorilla glass will scratch blah blah blah. Gorilla glass has proven to me to be infinitely more scratch proof than the glass on the Nexus. Like 100 fold over. After a while I was treating my Vibrant like it was bullet proof. Throwing it across the room, dropping it scores of times, putting it into my pocket with keys, etc etc... and to this day - "not one scratch on it", not one! For those who think sand in your pocket would scratch gorilla glass, you better think again. Obviously there will be rare occassions where it would happen but for the most part, it'll survive without any issues.
My nexus on the hand has been babied to death and less than a week into owning it, 3 scratches.
I will never, EVER buy a phone without gorilla glass again.
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Sand will scratch sand will scratch sand will scratch sand. What do I mean by that? ALL glass (including Gorilla Glass and its differently arranged superficial crystalline structure) is the same molecule- SiO2 or "silica." Is there variation within silica? - yes, but minutely.
[good read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohs_scale_of_mineral_hardness Geology and Mineralogy have huge unrealized relevancy in everyday life- just like under-appreciated physics] The variation will not give silica the hardness of say, "topaz" (at 8 on the scale), but rather is usually due to impurities (additional minerals) that weaken it down to ~ 6 or so. Gorilla Glass seems to be a purified silica, maxing out at 7 hardness. Quartz crystals (what we call "sand") also usually sits at 7 (chemical weathering can both purify and contaminate depending upon the situation), and do not have to be just "sand" like beach/desert sand. Sand is a size classification, you also have "silt" which is just smaller (down to microscopic) quartz crystals, and is "aerial saltating" (airborne- carried by the air but not in solution with it). Many other minerals may be present in the "cloud" that hovers about <50' from the earth's surface due to weathering that will scratch just about anything, so "grit" is a huge issue for ANY screen. Gorilla Glass is nicer than other glass types (although according to the Vickers scale Corning uses, not by much), but it is not invincible and items that can/will scratch are much too common to be flippantly dismissed. Also good reads in these comments: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/mfskn/galaxy_nexus_no_gorilla_glass_no_problem/
Buy a screen protector, even if you have Gorilla Glass...
Just get a high end screen protector like xoskins on there. They fill in scratches. Their video shows it pretty well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoMRO4OiXw4
Anyone know what (if any) the glass protection coating is on the Nitro? Would be awesome if Gorilla Glass, but I did some searching and not seeing any inkling that it has that.
And if not, any folks seeing scratches already?
According to Corning's(maker of GG) website, the LG Optimus 2x, Optimus Black, Thrill 4g, G2x, and LG marquee all have Gorilla glass. I do recall reading that it does have gorilla glass, and since all of LGs premium smartphones are on Corning's list, I am almost positive it does.
I've had it since the 6th and still have not made any scratches.
I tried to link to the site, but I am not allowed to. Google search "gorilla glass products LG" and the first link is the list.
Here's that link: http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/lg
Thanks red.
Btw, for those still curious if this phone has Gorilla Glass or not...well, It Has! Confirmed by LG through their forum.
http://www.lgforum.com/forum/boards/carriers/at-and-t/topics/gorilla-glass-on-nitro-hd
It is definitely Gorrila Glass. I hate screen protectors and this was one of the reason why I am giving this phone a shot as opposed to skyrocket.
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Digging up an old thread so I'm not creating new ones.
Gorilla glass or not it managed to somehow shatter on me. What a crappy feeling that is especially knowing I have a screen protector and case coming. The drop was onto tiled floor from about 1.5 foot tall. The whole screen shattered starting from the bottom right. Not sure how but it landed flat screen side on the ground and not on the corner. I thought it would've handled it but guess not.
So be cautious with this phone. I must have real bad luck with it
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Gorilla glass or not it managed to somehow shatter on me. What a crappy feeling that is especially knowing I have a screen protector and case coming. The drop was onto tiled floor from about 1.5 foot tall. The whole screen shattered starting from the bottom right. Not sure how but it landed flat screen side on the ground and not on the corner. I thought it would've handled it but guess not.
So be cautious with this phone. I must have real bad luck with it
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Sorry to hear about that. I believe that gorilla glass mostly protects against scratches. It is still glass and will shatter from many falls. Tile is especially renown as a phone shatterer.
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Sorry to hear about your Nitro, HJZS2K. That sucks!
After having watched a Gorilla Glass test done by Engadget some time ago, I thought it basically made a phone bulletproof too:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/29/dell-streaks-gorilla-glass-screen-torture-tested-for-your-amus/
But as you've experienced and from my own personal experience (my wife's rather careless mistreatment of her Droid RAZR caused a 1/4" GOUGE on her screen)...It goes back to the promise that Gorilla Glass is scratch and damage 'RESISTANT' ...But hardly impervious.
Yeah, it sucks to see it shatter like that, but everyone needs to remember, regardless of what Gorilla Glass is made of, it is still glass, and a drop on completely solid surface (tile, concrete, etc) will almost always results in cracks or shatters. It is really only intended to prevent the screen from scratches and blurring from buffing due to repeated usage and direct impact from things bumping into it or the phone being pressed hard to your body or in the bag, in which a regular sheet of glass will shatter in a second.
Gorilla glass is very thin, and at that thickness, a regular glass will snap with you just pushing it to press the screen. you'd know this if you ever play around with a microscope. Those glass slides that you put under the lens will snap the moment you push those lenses too low and press against the glass.
The predominant reasoning for this on the interwebz was because of the 'curve' of the screen. I never did understand if this was the concave curve of the screen from top to bottom or the convex curve of the screen around the edges. (you know...the one that makes dry screen protectors bubble up around the edges if they are not a few mm smaller)
HOWEVER,
This morning, Anandtech released their review of the Nokia Lumia 800. That phone has both macro and micro curves (I've held the N9 with the same glass) and that glass is Corning Gorilla glass!
I understand that Gorilla glass can be scratched with a material hard enough etc.,etc. I just want to point out, it doesn't seem to be a technological limitation that keeps Gorilla Glass from our phones.
Below is the incomplete link:
Anandtech.com/show/5266/nokia-lumia-800-review-nokias-brave-new-foray-into-wp7/6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyLC61JxsJQ
And what will you do with the information about why it doesn't have gorilla glass? It doesn't change the fact that it doesn't have it.
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I thought the screen was made of a tough glazing by Corning but not Gorilla glass. I treat this almost the same as my Motorola stuff but I did case the back of it because it's like paper. I'm much more worried about the back than the screen.
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It's funny cuz you can't scratch any phone screen ever with keys...
I managed to scratch mine within days of getting it. I'm not sure how, but it's rather frustrating. It would be nice if it remained pristine for at least a few weeks...
My GN has a hair line scratch that can be seen at an angle on a black screen. Its a bit annoying since im OCD but compared to my Epic 4G and the abuse that one went through its kinda sad.
Why? Simple. Because they have to kill too many Gorilla's to make the glass.
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I thought the screen was made of a tough glazing by Corning but not Gorilla glass. I treat this almost the same as my Motorola stuff but I did case the back of it because it's like paper. I'm much more worried about the back than the screen.
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I did hear that Corning has a new product out called 'Lotus glass'.....but the primary feature of that product (if I remember right) was large scratch resistant touch screen surfaces like TVs etc. I think there may be some physical limitation that keeps gorilla glass from being used on devices much larger than a laptop. Lotus glass was supposed to solve that.
But you're right, I KNOW the rest of the case is going to scuff. With or without a case. Just give it six months. Unless you go the polymer skins route.
Anyways......It isn't about what you're going to do with the information now. It was just interesting that the main reason cited as behind why Gorilla glass (and search ANY forum for the clamor behind the Gnex not having it) does not appear to be true.
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Why? Simple. Because they have to kill too many Gorilla's to make the glass.
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I literally LOL'ed!
A few months back I said the hell with screen protectors on my Droid Incredible. I knew I was getting a new phone soon anyway. The incredible has gorilla glass, and it is now covered with a bunch of tiny little scratches. No glass is scratch proof, it's all in how you treat it. If you have a desk job and you are careful with you phone, you probably won't scratch it up too bad. If you work construction, you may still mess it up with an otter box.
If the nexus had gorilla glass there would still be threads about scratches on the screen. We probably went from a 95% chance that you won't scratch your screen to a 91% chance you won't scratch the screen with this new glass. If you don't buy it, look at most phones with gorilla glass that are not handled carefully and you'll see scratches.
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Glass is still glass. You can make it slightly stronger, but at the end it's still glass. Treat your large touchscreen phone well and you won't have problems.
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Why? Simple. Because they have to kill too many Gorilla's to make the glass.
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I've Lol'ed so hard that my wife woke up
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Why does it matter what type of hardened glass it has? Do you know for a fact that the glass they went with for the galaxy nexus scratches easier than gorilla glass, or do you just know the gorilla glass "name" so you like to utter it like a monkey?
MisterEdF said:
Why? Simple. Because they have to kill too many Gorilla's to make the glass.
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LOL m8 Loved your explanation
GinoSylum said:
A few months back I said the hell with screen protectors on my Droid Incredible. I knew I was getting a new phone soon anyway. The incredible has gorilla glass, and it is now covered with a bunch of tiny little scratches. No glass is scratch proof, it's all in how you treat it. If you have a desk job and you are careful with you phone, you probably won't scratch it up too bad. If you work construction, you may still mess it up with an otter box.
If the nexus had gorilla glass there would still be threads about scratches on the screen. We probably went from a 95% chance that you won't scratch your screen to a 91% chance you won't scratch the screen with this new glass. If you don't buy it, look at most phones with gorilla glass that are not handled carefully and you'll see scratches.
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Exactly! It all comes down to the user.
You scratched up an Incredible with Gorilla Glass, and I personally have had various phones w/o Gorilla Glass and I never use cases or screen protectors and they were all in mint condition when I passed them onto someone else.
So moral of the story, focus less on what brand the glass is and more on how you protect your phone.
Yup.. When I took care of my Incredible it was always in perfect shape. Then I stopped giving a crap when the Nexus was announced and I knew I was switching. Gorilla glass or not, scratches showed up.
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Ive never used a screen protector with my INC2 and tried hard as hell to be very careful with it but some how I got a small scratch in it within 3 weeks. I'm not sure how much less or more the GN screen is but I'm trying to avoid using a screen protector on it all because I love the naked feel.
You know what happened the last time I talked up Gorilla Glass on a Droid RAZR?
The guy I was talking to took the RAZR, banged it as hard as he could on the desk corner, and cracked/powdered the screen. "Not so tough," he said.
Moral of this story is you, the user, can protect your phone far better than any manufacturer.
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Everything is about $$.
Nexus has a few extra things that probably push it's cost higher, so they are likely going with an unbranded version, in order to keep the cost down enough.
I'm sure the screen is pretty costly in itself, while the Note is same resolution and tech - it's bigger so probably easier to make.
Given that the phone has gorilla glass, do you guys thing the phone even need a protective screen cover?
Coming to the end of 2 yr. contract with dhd with screen protector that is looking A little beat up, so am on the fence right now.
any thoughts gratefully recd!
Al
Yes, if you ever plan to re-sale down the road, it will help on pricing. Plus, if you do get scratches, at least its on the screen protector.
Yes, I learned this the hard way on my Galaxy Nexus.
Yes, especially considering how many layers are all glued together. Don't want to replace all that, all at once
better be safe than sorry. also, if you're planning to resell the phone to get better value in the future, it's better to have screen protector.
ive never had a screen protector on any of my smarthphones.
i might try one on this phone though. its my first super expensive smarthphone.
Yes holding this phone is like trying to talk into a living big mouth bass.
falconeight said:
Yes holding this phone is like trying to talk into a living big mouth bass.
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lol wut
1. Yes, you need the screen protector. I learned it the hard way: Desire with scratched screen.
2. Yes, this is my first super expensive phone ever. Never went above €400 before...but this...I know €600...just could not resist
No, didn't for the s2 and no problems. Any scratches should be tiny, and invisible when you're using the thing.
Never had a screen protector on any phone for the past 14 years, not about to start now both my HD2 and S2 have stayed in pristine condition without.
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wow, $2 screen protector is too much for you guys? Do you even need to ask this question? I've used it on my iphone4 since day one with nice gel cover and same with LG O3D. Both look like new when i take them out of the cover. O3D is since last Sept 2011 and Iphone 4 i bought in Sept 2010. Already got good trade in price for ip4 for SIII. Coud'nt wait to get the screen protector for it as well as hard plastic cover which enhances the look of the phone.
Gorilla glass or bullet proof glass it's your gadget you should do whatever it takes to minimize wear and tear. My 2008 Lumina SS still wows passengers as they can't believe it's almost 4 years old car.
Nothing to do with the cost of a screen protector,I just really can't see why I would want one. As I've said, in 14 years of owning mobiles I'm yet to scratch a screen (or drop a phone). I don't use a case either unless I go to the beach - my phone, my choice. Do you guys also wrap all your furniture in plastic so that it doesn't get damaged?
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I've never used a screen protector on my Droid X and there isn't a mark on the screen. My assumption is that Gorilla Glass 2 is even better than Gorilla Glass so I'm not considering a screen protector on my SIII when it arrives. I just don't think any screen saver feels like the original glass of the phone and I just don't like them in general.
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I've never used a screen protector on my Droid X and there isn't a mark on the screen. My assumption is that Gorilla Glass 2 is even better than Gorilla Glass so I'm not considering a screen protector on my SIII when it arrives. I just don't think any screen saver feels like the original glass of the phone and I just don't like them in general.
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Gorilla glass 2 is stronger than 1, but they use less of it to make the phone thin as possible.
I don't know if thickness has anything to do with resisting scratches as I would need to look at their data sheet and experiments but I do know that you will have the same impact resistances.
They advertise "same strength at less thickness" when they presented it a few months back. So don't expect the SGS3 to be better than the SGS2, but expect GG2 to be better than GG1 at the same thicknesses.
Thx to all you guys that responded!
I might look up the specs of gorilla glass and see how scratch proof it is... would pref to go without cover if poss, but then i see the fairly mangled cover of my dhd and think hmmmm!!!
if I find good info i will post
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impressive!!!
info here
HOW IS CORNING® GORILLA® GLASS 2 DIFFERENT?
Gorilla Glass 2 can be up to 20 percent thinner than the original, but still just as tough. This exceptional thinness enables greater design possibilities for slimmer and sleeker devices with brighter images and improved touch sensitivity. Gorilla Glass 2 is elegant and lightweight, but scratch resistant and durable enough to withstand the unexpected abuses of everyday life.
WHY DO I WANT GORILLA GLASS ON MY DEVICES?
Scrapes, bumps, and drops are a fact of life, but Gorilla Glass enables your device to resist damage from the abuses that come with everyday use. Gorilla Glass also has strong aesthetic appeal. It’s thin, lightweight, and cool to the touch – enabling the sleekest designs.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE ION-EXCHANGE PROCESS?
Ion exchange is a chemical strengthening process where large ions are “stuffed” into the glass surface, creating a state of compression. Gorilla Glass is specially designed to maximize this behavior.
The glass is placed in a hot bath of molten salt at a temperature of approximately 400°C. Smaller sodium ions leave the glass, and larger potassium ions from the salt bath replace them. These larger ions take up more room and are pressed together when the glass cools, producing a layer of compressive stress on the surface of the glass. Gorilla Glass’s special composition enables the potassium ions to diffuse far into the surface, creating high compressive stress deep into the glass. This layer of compression creates a surface that is more resistant to damage from everyday use.
WHAT MAKES GORILLA GLASS SO DAMAGE RESISTANT?
The unique composition of Gorilla Glass allows for a deep layer of high compressive stress (created through an ion-exchange process). This compression acts as a sort of “armor,” making the glass exceptionally tough and damage resistant.
HOW DO I KNOW IF GORILLA GLASS IS ON MY DEVICE?
Gorilla Glass is currently used by more than 33 major brands, designed into hundreds of product models, and featured on more than 750 million devices. Check out this list for the most current, comprehensive collection of devices that Corning can confirm for Gorilla Glass.
DOES THIS LIST INCLUDE ALL DEVICES THAT HAVE GORILLA GLASS?
No, unfortunately, customer agreements prevent us from identifying all the devices that feature Gorilla Glass. This list shows all devices we can talk about. We’ll continue to update the list as customers allow us to share that information.
CAN I BREAK GORILLA GLASS?
If subjected to enough abuse, Gorilla Glass can break. However, Gorilla Glass is better able to survive the real-world events that most commonly cause glass to scratch, chip, or break.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF GREATER DAMAGE RESISTANCE, BUT WON’T GORILLA GLASS ADD BULK TO MY DEVICE?
Corning’s ion-exchange process makes Gorilla Glass exceptionally durable, while allowing it to remain thin and lightweight enough to enable the sleekest smartphones and slates. Gorilla Glass can be produced at a thinness of 0.5 millimeters just four times thicker than a human hair.
IS IT TRUE THAT GORILLA GLASS WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED IN THE 1960S?
No. That has been a popular myth, which apparently resulted from a misunderstanding of the facts. It’s true that Corning experimented with chemically strengthened glass in 1960, as part of an initiative called “Project Muscle.” In 1961, Corning developed a glass composition it promoted under the Chemcor® brand, which featured state-of-the-art strength and durability. Chemcor glass was incorporated into tableware, ophthalmic products, and applications for the automotive, aviation, and pharmaceutical industries. When Corning began developing a tough new cover glass for electronic devices in 2006, Corning scientists, of course, drew upon the company’s prior expertise with strengthened glass. However, Corning Gorilla Glass is a different product and glass composition than Chemcor. We implemented significant compositional as well as other changes to achieve superior product characteristics including outstanding damage resistance, while making the glass compatible with Corning’s proprietary fusion-draw manufacturing process. Corning’s fusion-draw process produces exceptionally thin glass with unparalleled surface quality. The result is a tough and damage-resistant glass that is ideal for today’s sleekest electronic devices and most sophisticated touch technology.
IS GORILLA GLASS RECYCLABLE?
Yes. Gorilla Glass is environmentally friendly and can be recycled.
Depends...
My G1 didn't have gorilla glass and after nearly 2 years it was scratch free. I had one on my Samsung GS1 (don't know if it did anything though), but I didn't put one on my Thunderbolt, Droid1, DX1, Bionic, or my Sensation and those are all just fine. Gorilla glass 2 can be scratched, I mean it's still just glass. Gorilla Glass2 can also break. Sadly a screen protector will not prevent your screen from breaking; They only prevent hairline scratches which really shouldn't lower the resale price more than what you would have spent on the screen protector and huge bulky case anyway. I personally like my phones naked.
Just take care of it, don't run around with keys or a bag of sand in your pocket and your phone should be just fine.
-Dr B
I prefer them naked.
Paging Dr B said:
My G1 didn't have gorilla glass and after nearly 2 years it was scratch free. I had one on my Samsung GS1 (don't know if it did anything though), but I didn't put one on my Thunderbolt, Droid1, DX1, Bionic, or my Sensation and those are all just fine. Gorilla glass 2 can be scratched, I mean it's still just glass. Gorilla Glass2 can also break. Sadly a screen protector will not prevent your screen from breaking; They only prevent hairline scratches which really shouldn't lower the resale price more than what you would have spent on the screen protector and huge bulky case anyway. I personally like my phones naked.
Just take care of it, don't run around with keys or a bag of sand in your pocket and your phone should be just fine.
-Dr B
I prefer them naked.
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Actually, a soft screen protector will work as a shock absorber and turn impact energy into heat. This means that it actually does reduce the risk of screen damage. It's fairly basic physics.
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I didn't put one on my GS1 and to this day it doesn't have a single scratch on the screen. The back cover...that's another story. I've even taken it to the beach on several occassions. I don't plan on putting a screen protector on my GS3.
I prefer the feel of the glass without anything on it.